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January 3[edit]


Dear Sir: I'm trying to find the email address and postal mailing address for the internet registrar; Can you please help me? Sincerely Diana [details removed] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Traditionalcats (talkcontribs) 00:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

AROBAZE.png Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.
Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Intelligentsium 00:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
A simple whois for the domain shows the registered address here. Nanonic (talk) 00:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Vector version available[edit]

Hi. There are two versions of an annotated map of Argentina (File:ARGENT.svg[1] and File:Argentina_-_Pol%C3%ADtico_2.png[2]) The latter is the original but it's in Spanish and I suppose an svg version is preferable anyway. The png version should be tagged with Template:Vector version available. Unfortunately, I don't know where the template should go. Does the Wikipedia image page have to be created or can it go in the Commons page? If so, whereabouts in the source? Thanks. -- (talk) 02:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Music-CD Cover Scan[edit]


I've scanned a local Funk-group CD cover formatting it as a .JPG, so that it could now be used in the group's article, which I had created, on he:wiki.

Would you so kindly inform me, given that I DO NOT possess any sort of registered account in any of the Wikipedia editions - but have a WikiCommons account, can I, and how (and where), upload this file and feature it on he:wiki without crossing the legal guidlines we're bounded to as editors here.

Thank you very much.

/Orrling (talk) 03:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiMedia wikis have had Single User Login enabled for quite some time now, you should be able to log onto Wikipedias in all languages using your Commons account information and then (depending on whether the Hebrew Wikipedia requires users to be autoconfirmed or not) upload your image. Nanonic (talk) 03:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, as a NON-REGISTERED he-wiki editor (now almost a year and a half) I am UNAUTHORIZED to upload files onto the project, though as said I can upload ORIGINAL pictures to Commons. Having little understanding in what this involves, and wishing to adhere the upload rules and yet to be able to have the cd-cover in that relevant article, could you please be more specific of how and where I can upload that picture, legally, WITHOUT REGISTERING to WikiPedia. /O (talk) 03:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Please do not upload it to Commons. It is most likely copyrighted, and therefore explicitly forbidden at Commons. Intelligentsium 03:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I did have this in mind :) Thank you. Could I ask you (personally/systemwise) to receive that picture from me via mail, and upload it so I can then fix it in the article? (-or alternatively edit it into the article yourself?) Thanx so much. /O (talk) 03:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Anyone?..? /O (talk) 04:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Single User Login follow this, and you can login to any wikipedia/wikimedia wiki with your Commons credentials. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 10:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Help prevent deletion of file[edit]

Pleasr refer there and help me better my use of WikiPedia and its Commons.

Thanks (talk) 15:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you guys please assist?[edit]

I've been dealing with this two-image-saga now from the early afternoon ITC and still those two files are risked (one already deleted) Please could someone read here -> [3] and give some advise, or rather, fix the 2 files, restore them - and tell me what I should do the next time I wish to uppload a picture I had received from someone else for free Wiki-use?

Thanks in advance!! /O (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The templates that have been added to the page tell you what you need to do, and in particular what form the licences must be provided. Since you are the only one in contact with the copyright holders, nobody here can help you. --ColinFine (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok now, hold it! -What does it mean? -No pictures in the article? Is that a happy thing? Or can you be more practic - as I stated I DO NOT know one license-code from another - and tell me in simple English/French/Swedish/Hebrew what tag I must apply to the two files? AKA - [951-core.jpg] and [plastico.jpg]? Thank you in advance! /O (talk) 23:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
There is no easy process. Clearing copyright issues is a complicated matter, further complicated by language barriers apparently.
Then if you're hard at English I may try to read your instructions in another western language,
just make sure, please, my 2 files stay intact - I had day long supplied mails with permissions, why not clarify specifically what box I must tick from within the list over there. Thanx, /O (talk) 00:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
You state that you have been given permission, but there is no way for us to verify that you are who you are, and have been given the permission that you claim. Either the copyright holder sends a permission to the emailadres you have been given multiple times, or the image will be deleted, there is no middle ground. You will have to wait for someone else to make a photograph that he submits with appropriate license terms. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 00:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok this is fair, thanks, yet could you maybe indicate for me now how to license those two myselvf? They are a donation to Wiki from the owner. Can it do if he mails the acknowledgement-form to this adress? (talk) 00:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

flight pattern leads in ducks[edit]

cannot find answer to my question: when you see the ducks and geese flying in their v-formation, how is it decided which bird is at the head of the formation and leads the others?javascript:insertTags(' (talk) 03:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)',,)

See V-formation. They alternate apparently. -- (talk) 03:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Cannot 'search' my new article[edit]


I just finished moving an article that I had created to the mainspace with the 'move' facility. However, I am unable to retrieve this article via the search function in Wikipedia. Have I misssed something when moving my article or is there a time lag before an article is 'searchable'.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chammika.udalagama (talkcontribs) 04:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Im not an expert But I do think that there is a time lage for an article to show pu in the search. This has happened to me before as well.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 04:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, there is a time lag. See Wikipedia:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Archiving a web document?[edit]

Hi All,

If I (1) link to a webpage as a reference, and (2) sometime in the future that webpage disappears, then (3) reference is gone, right?

So is there a Wikipedia format for uploading a .pdf file that archives reference information?

for example:

thanks! -j —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bytebreaker (talkcontribs) 04:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Using WebCite. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Is there a MOS notice board?[edit]

Is there a WP:Manual of style noticeboard? There is a difference of opinion concerning the ordering of sections and subsections on Forward Operating Base Chapman attack Cs32en  05:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You can discuss it on the MoS talk page -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your help! At the moment, the issue is a bit moot, as the editor with whom I am in disagreement seems to have disappeared, or is working on other issues, but the controversy may come up again in the future, of course.  Cs32en  21:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

About Cruelty to Animals[edit]

Dear Sir/Madam, I Want to send an article through e-mail about Cruelty to Animals in (Denmark)to you for save of their lifes . Hence I required your organisation's mail-id. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not accept articles through e-mail, no matter how important the subject matter.
If you wish to create an article, and have verified that the subject matter is notable by Wikipedia's criteria, and is not already covered, then you are welcome to create an article. But note that any article must be encyclopaedic - that is, written in a neutral tone, containing no original research, and wholly supported by published reliable sources. If your article is an essay, or otherwise arguing a point, it is not acceptable for Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 09:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Can I Give you my credit card info or Social Security number to remove captchas?[edit]

Captchas are annoying, specially when writing an article when you dont like using the preview button. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldarney (talkcontribs) 10:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

That will not be a good idea. Pmlineditor  10:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Captchas will go away once you've reached a certain edit count. But you can give me your credit card details (joking!). Nageh (talk) 12:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
You should have become autoconfirmed and avoid captchas 9 minutes after your post here. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Competitors delete our profile[edit]

I am the Chairman of the Society of British INterior Design and our competitors have continued to delete our profile. A complaint has been made and a trace of the culpret has been completed.

Will you please send information to allow us to upload our own data and protect it.

Vanessa Brady —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I can't find any indication that there has ever been an article with the title Society of British Interior Design. I'm not sure what you mean by your "profile"? Do you mean a user page? If so, which user name was it? The IP used to leave this question has no other edits, so I can't identify a possible article from it. In order for us to assist you, I'm afraid that we need more information than you have given us. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
You do not have a 'profile'. You are discouraged from editing articles in which you have an interest. You cannot protect data in Wikipedia. This is an encyclopaedia, not a trade directory. If somebody has indeed deleted information for any other reason than to improve Wikipedia, that is a serious matter and should be investigated: please give us details. --ColinFine (talk) 13:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
However, I have just removed your link, along with others, from the article Interior design, as I believe that they contravene the policy in WP:External links. --ColinFine (talk) 13:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

IP address range search in Special:Contributions not working[edit]

Alright, I'll give it a shot here. Even though the help page states that users based on IP addresses can be searched using a wildcard asterisk in an address range, apparently this is not working. It would be tremendously helpful in locating vandal edits by users connecting with dynamic IP addresses. Thx, Nageh (talk) 12:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing this is a bug! I can't find a way to get this to work - there is a question on the the help talk page from November 2008, which hasn't got a response. You would probably better asking this question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) rather than here. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Check "Allow /16 and /24 – /32 CIDR ranges on Special:Contributions forms (uses API), as well as wildcard prefix searches" under Gadgets in Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Awesome! Thanks a lot to both of you! Though it would be nice to have finer control between /16 and /24 CIDR range searches, it's working well enough. Nageh (talk) 13:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


Hello I wonder can you tell me if I quote some information from a page into a book that I am writing and I attribute it to the website will i be infringing the copyright. I intend to sell the book but only to cover costs as it is probably for local use since it is a book on the people from a particular parish in Scotland who served in WW1 and the interest is in the history of some of the ships. Thank you92.9.92.167 (talk) 13:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:Reusing Wikipedia content. If that doesn't answer all your questions, come back here. --ColinFine (talk) 13:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Have I done all I need to?[edit]

I created a new Wikipedia article, then requested that it might be moved into the main encyclopedia; this was done by an editor, and then I received the message below and I have tried to do what's been requested. I THINK I have now done everything I need to, to finish this article and leave it in the main encyclopedia, but I am struggling to understand how to use Wikipedia and would be very grateful if someone could check that I'm all finished. Thank you.

Copied template removed from Help page --ColinFine (talk) 19:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
You have done everything you needed to do with regard to moving the page: the template you copied here was informing you of that, but not requiring anything from you.
However, the article, though a good start, needs some work.
  • You have left an example external link in - please remove it
  • Every article should be placed in at least one category.
  • You have included several references, which is good; but please look at WP:Cite to find out how to format them better.
  • Generally for UK subjects, UK spellings are preferred, so I would use 'aeroplane' rather than 'airplane'.
But congratulations on getting this far, 51336Bio! --ColinFine (talk) 19:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Text keeps jumping up and down[edit]

I have a problem when I attempt to edit a page, the text keeps jumping up and down. It makes it hard to edit and means I occasionally edit the wrong thing. Why is it doing this? ( (talk) 21:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC))

Since nobody else has reported this, I suspect it is a problem with your browser. Have you tried restarting your browser? And which (version of which) browser are you using? --ColinFine (talk) 23:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


Is it possible for me to redirect this Jenny Shimizu page to this Jenny Lynn Shimizu page, I can see how to move it but I have blanked it and just want to create a redirect for people searching for the article. It was a double created bio. Off2riorob (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

It would be much better to redirect the new version to the longstanding one; the new one has a lot of promotional content and bad sourcing -- note, for example, that two of the first four "references" are phony cites to a dummy page. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I can see 48 refs on the Jenny Lynn Shimizu article, I dont mind at all which way the content goes, it was suggested to merge the content from the duplicated articles, I was simply working towards this, I have kept all the content on the talkpage of the new article. Off2riorob (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)