Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 March 2
March 2
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The result of the discussion was delete since it is unused (orphaned out-of-process in Paul Tighe). Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:32, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unusued Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, this is a wrapper for Template:Infobox manner of address.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: Good spot. However, a single-use wrapper isn't worth the maintenance overhead; it should be Subst: and then kept as a redirect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- If no one from the relevant WikiProject is interested in using this template, I agree that it might be better to replace it with manner of address. By the way, this template (and the other wrappers of Infobox manner of address) should be renamed, since they're not actually infoboxes, strictly speaking.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- why are they not infoboxes? Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Frietjes: an infobox summarises basic information about the article in which it appears, which in the case of a person would be date of birth, death, nationality, etc; this is just a table showing how the subject of the article is formally addressed.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
- why are they not infoboxes? Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- If no one from the relevant WikiProject is interested in using this template, I agree that it might be better to replace it with manner of address. By the way, this template (and the other wrappers of Infobox manner of address) should be renamed, since they're not actually infoboxes, strictly speaking.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Underlying lk: Good spot. However, a single-use wrapper isn't worth the maintenance overhead; it should be Subst: and then kept as a redirect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Now orphaned. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was merge (replaced out-of-process in Hogwarts). Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Could probably merge to Template:Infobox fictional organisation. --Izno (talk) 21:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Replaced per Izno. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete This template seems to fill a need for summarizing the information presented. I like the way it's used in the Amateur radio in India article. I originally favored Keep and Convert plus adding categories. Unfortunately three elements are far too few for many of the countries with articles beginning Amateur radio call signs of .... Even 9 entries would fail to cover some of the articles. The U.S. article is so complex that call signs can't be summarized this way. If someone has a feasible approach to sizing this template for at least 20-30 value prefixes/ranges in the call sign area I might be convinced to change back to Keep and Convert.
SBaker43 (talk) 02:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:49, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:13, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete this is unused in mainspace.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:55, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- From the article, touch football is a form of rugby league, so we could use Template:Infobox rugby league football competition or Template:Infobox sport tournament.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as unused. APerson (talk!) 18:17, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, unused.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, unused.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and replace it with Template:Infobox sports team.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:32, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- merge with {{Infobox gaming group}} or replace with {{Infobox sports team}}. Frietjes (talk) 23:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2014 April 8 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:06, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and replace with Template:Infobox sport governing body.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete, replacing with {{Infobox sport tournament}} in 2009 Asian Netball Championships, not {{Infobox sports league}}
. If this is a problem, let me know. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:06, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, Template:Infobox sports league should be used instead.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2014 April 8 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was merge, someone will need to fix Grand Prix motorcycle racing, where this was orphaned out-of-process Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:17, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:05, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and replace it with Template:Infobox motorsport championship.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Replaced as suggested. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:44, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:46, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Unused Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, unused.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Undocumented. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Nominator has not given valid reason for deletion. CRRaysHead90 | #WelcomeHome 02:44, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- The valid reasons for deletion, which I gave are 1) that the template is single-use and 2) Possibly that it is redundant to more generic template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- @CR90: there is a good chance that a template which was created two years ago, is still missing even the most basic documentation and is used only once is not useful to its WikiProject or to Wikipedia more in general, and that is a valid reason for deleting it.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as redundant to Template:Infobox sport tournament.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete it, but feel free to rename it, reformat it, etc. after further discussion elsewhere. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to a more generic template? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:01, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Potential use on the 107 articles of Category:Cycling team seasons which at the moment 106 use non-infobox tables - although I never got round to rolling it out. If there's a more generic sports team season infobox thought it can be deleted in favour of it; if not it should be rolled out across those 107 articles. Severo (talk) 21:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Just looking at this a bit more and there doesn't appear to be any {{Infobox sports team season}} or similar so for now I will oppose this nomination. Severo (talk) 17:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, we should recast the template as
{{Infobox sports team season}}
, to allow its reuse elsewhere. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC)- I'd be happy with that. Severo (talk) 21:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, we should recast the template as
- Just looking at this a bit more and there doesn't appear to be any {{Infobox sports team season}} or similar so for now I will oppose this nomination. Severo (talk) 17:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Recast per above —PC-XT+ 22:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to {{Infobox organisation}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and replace with Infobox organisation.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Redundant. APerson (talk!) 18:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete (replaced in Pan-African Parliament). Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use (with errors). Redundant to {{Infobox legislature}} (Transclusion count: 1,267) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:53, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Replaced with an instance of Template:Infobox legislature as suggested.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to {{Infobox legislature}} (Transclusion count: 1,267) {{Infobox legislative session}} Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment:. I created this template. I don't believe you understand the purpose of its usage. {{Infobox legislature}} is meant to be used on articles specifically about a legislative body (Virginia General Assembly, New York State Legislature, United States Congress, etc.) You'll notice that {{Infobox United States Congress}} is used not for the article on the Congress but on the 113 articles about their meetings (95th United States Congress, 110th United States Congress). {{Infobox New York Legislature}} has the same purpose, albeit for that state's legislature. Though this infobox is only used once right now, in Virginia General Assembly, 1916, it will prove extremely useful as I and other contributors expand coverage of the history of Virginia's legislature. Rockhead126 (talk) 22:55, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- If so, then the necessary parameters should be added to the generic template, to facilitate use for specific instances. Failing that, this and similar low-use templates for specific legislature instances should be merged; we don't need separate templates for every state legislature in the US, much less for every legislature in the world. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox Legislative Session might be what we need in this case.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'd still say that the template still fits best with the series of articles, as in the case of {{Infobox United States Congress}}. If it behooves me, I can start creating articles where the template would be used. I didn't do so earlier because I didn't think stubs would be very useful, but this is certainly not a case of single use. Rockhead126 (talk) 05:57, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- By all means create the articles; but they can use
{{Infobox legislative session}}
. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- By all means create the articles; but they can use
- If so, then the necessary parameters should be added to the generic template, to facilitate use for specific instances. Failing that, this and similar low-use templates for specific legislature instances should be merged; we don't need separate templates for every state legislature in the US, much less for every legislature in the world. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Merge any missing important fields to Template:Infobox legislative session.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 03:08, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Single use. Redundant to {{Infobox legislature}} (Transclusion count: 1,267) {{Infobox legislative session}} Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox legislative session would be a better replacement in this case.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:34, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2014 April 7 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:10, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:58, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Urban rail transportation in the former Yugoslavia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Per WP:NAVBOX, the the existence of this template is dubious because it navigates between articles that aren't a very coherent group - the former Yugoslavia is (long) former, and many of the listed articles don't have a lot to do with Yugoslavia as such. There's many articles about transportation venues created before Yugoslavia came into existence (1918), and even some about those created after Yugoslavia was already dissolved (1991). It's possible that one can find some Yugoslav-era history books that discuss urban rail transport in the country, but that's still better suited for inclusion in an article first, not this. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- delete, better to describe by an article than to actively connect through a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn WWGB (talk) 05:38, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a better template at Template:Xinjiang unrest which covers the same material WWGB (talk) 05:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - this nomination is a technical mistake - one template is a side campaignbox template (includes timeline of battles/violent incidents), while the other is a bottom description template (includes background, general history, participants, events, etc.). For most conflicts we do have two such different templates - for example for Syrian Civil War we have both template:Campaignbox Syrian Civil War and also the bottom Template:Syrian Civil War; in case of Iraq War we have both template:Campaignbox Iraq War and Template:Iraq War.GreyShark (dibra) 08:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- So please explain whether we need BOTH in the same article [1]. Seems redundant to me. WWGB (talk) 10:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. --S.G.(GH) ping! 09:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per GreyShark--Jsjsjs1111 (talk) 12:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Thousands of articles use this dual template structure. The right hand infobox summmarises the article's content while the bottom one provides links to related topics. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 05:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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