Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/December 12

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Today's featured article for December 12, 2018 Today's featured picture for December 12, 2018
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Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/December 11 * Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/December 13

I think Paul Martin's becoming Prime Minister of Canada in 2003 is worthy of mention here, afterall their have only been 21. I think it is more noteworthy than the Panay Incident, which I had never heard of until reading here, though I had heard of the other three items. Thoughts on this? I'd like to change this before December 12 if there is no objection. - Jord 00:58, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'll pass. It remains to be seen if Martin is going to be a notable PM in Canadian history or not. And we should avoid featuring him while he is campaigning for the federal election. -- PFHLai 08:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)



needs to add observation: "Hanukkah ends at sunset (Judaism, 2007);" Some thing 21:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Done. Proto:: 11:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

2011 notes[edit]

--howcheng {chat} 00:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Clapham Junction rail crash[edit]

Any reason why this deserves less merit than the others listed? It was a while ago (but so were the others listed) but it was one of the worst in the UK and I believe it has merit to be listed still. (talk) 13:50, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't have enough footnotes. See WP:OTD#Criteria for listing items on this set of pages #8. howcheng {chat} 20:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I've rewritten it, but I suggest that it's run in 2013 as this is the 25 year anniversary. Edgepedia (talk) 18:00, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 07:24, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 07:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 08:40, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Centennial of Frank Sinatra's birth[edit]

I am not sure of the proper manner in which to make this nomination, but the 100th anniversary of Frank Sinatra's birth (December 12, 1915) occurs this year. Based upon his accomplishments as an entertainer, he seems to be a viable candidate for listing in this year's OTD/SA. --Allen3 talk 14:25, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

FYI, DYK has organized an effort to fill the December 12 sets with Sinatra hooks. --Allen3 talk 21:56, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, we'll leave Sinatra out then. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 03:21, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
@Howcheng: DYK is not specifically mentioning the anniversary under the suggestion that it is more suited to OTD? Is there an issue with it running in tandem? --Errant (chat!) 11:43, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Usually we don't duplicate efforts between sections. If a subject is featured in TFA/POTD, we wouldn't list it in OTD either. I would think the same rule applies to DYK, but I don't remember having done this before. howcheng {chat} 16:53, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

2015 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 04:10, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

2016 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 08:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

2017 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 17:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)