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Merging templates[edit]

FYI, from a quick scan of articles, I notice more than one venue template is being used (one example is {{uk music venue}}). Ideally, we should merge all the features into the {{Infobox music venue}} template. CloudNine 10:11, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats a good idea. I didn't even notice there were two templates. Acidskater 15:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Added some useful features from {{uk music venue}}. Once I can get these optional parameters sorted out, I'll start converting. See London Astoria for an example. CloudNine 18:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Done that as well. Here's a list of articles to convert. however, there's an annoying space between the title of the page and infobox now. I've posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes to seek some technical help. CloudNine 08:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
And {{uk music venue}} is at WP:TFD. CloudNine 09:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Venues lacking geographical coordinates[edit]

I've noticed several venue articles lacking geographical coordinates. I plan to extend {{WikiProject Music venues}} in order to categorize those articles without coords, so we can better focus our efforts. CloudNine 17:34, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Add |nocoords=yes to articles lacking geographical co-ordinates; this puts them in Category:Music venues lacking coordinates. CloudNine 17:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Venue[edit]

I created the template {{Infobox Venue}} a while ago for usage in all non-stadium venues. I just discovered the template {{Infobox music venue}}, which has less parameters. I think the two should be merged, retaining the title {{Infobox Venue}} because the template can be used on non-music venues, such as theaters for musicals and plays. I'll go ahead and update the parameters in Infobox Venue right now. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I tagged {{Infobox music venue}} as deprecated and added new parameters to {{Infobox Venue}}. The ladder should be used from now on because it has the same parameters as the original infobox, plus many more. –Dream out loud (talk) 03:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Project expansion proposal[edit]

Just a suggestion that it may be better if this project was expanded to cover all venues in general as it may be too narrow for a scope. Similar projects such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports facilities have become inactive and so it may be a good idea to merge such projects to create one project for all venues. Thanks. Tbo 157(talk) 18:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Music venues[edit]

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Utility of outlines to wikiprojects[edit]

Here's a discussion about subject development you might find interesting.

The Transhumanist 22:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Drop off/pick up area[edit]

Does anyone out there know if there is a dropoff/pickup area at Shoreline? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Chicago Theatre[edit]

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jay Pritzker Pavilion/archive1[edit]

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Irving Plaza / Rock Hotel[edit]

I have been doing some work on The Fillmore New York at Irving Plaza sorting out refs after a new editor posted OR about the Rock Hotel efforts there in the late 80's. Going through the NYT archives turns up a great number of refs telling a fascinating story going back 120+ years which will take a little time to sort out. I'm quite happy to do the work myself, but if anyone else feels like joining in they'd be welcome. Rock Hotel seems notable in its own right so I've initiated a project here. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

reassessment of Harris Theater (Chicago, Illinois)[edit]

I have greatly enhanced Harris Theater (Chicago, Illinois) and would like a reconsideration of its importance rating.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Music venues articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

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Laundry List of Musical Acts[edit]

I am seeking consensus from the project on this. For the last few months I have noticed that there are a few users who have been adding laundry lists of musical acts who perform at any given venue. I keep an eye on my local venue Credit Union Centre and had reduced this laundry list to a few acts. As a sidenote of an AN/I discussion about a particular user, it was mentioned that many of these laundry lists have been unsourced and are unneeded weight to articles. The consensus I am asking is what is appropriate as far as the scope of musical acts listed on a given page. For that matter, should any specific acts be mentioned if there is nothing notable about the appearance at the venue. What I mean is that Metallica has played at Credit Union Centre, three times over the venue's history, however those shows did not feature anything noteworthy. In fact, outside of a Garth Brooks concert setting (at the time) the largest crowd ever at CUC, there have been no noteworthy concerts. So could a guideline be set as to what gets listed?

I am of the opinion that, so long as they can be sourced, a representative sample of the shows at a given venue is good. However, I don't think a laundry list is necessary, nor is not listing anything. If consensus can be established, it would help to know whether I should revert mass deletions of these list, whether I should remove lists or what I need to do. I hate having nothing but a strawman argument when I revert goodfaith edits/deletes. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 04:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I realize this is a very old discussion, but I have recently noticed a user going through musical venue articles across Wikipedia attempting to add concert performances for every day of the calendar year, in some cases spanning a timeframe of up to fifty years. I agree that this is needlessly bulking up these articles and I doubt the information is useful, and is really more of a nuisance, to most users that seek out these articles.
I'm looking for consensus from this community to see if I can encourage this editor to refrain from doing these kinds of edits. I have suggested that she narrows it down to a core group of performances or events according to some criteria provided by another user on the talk page of Events at Madison Square Garden. I have also suggested she create standalone articles if she deems it totally necessary to include this information on Wikipedia. As of yet the editor seems disinclined to accept these suggestions.
Are these suggestions out of line or reasonable? Ivancurtisivancurtis (talk) 08:27, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good article nominations currently has a backlog![edit]

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Draft article : Jazz After Dark[edit]

Hi, not sure if this is the right place to put this, but let's give it a go. I've recently created a draft page User:Ritchie333/Jazz After Dark for a London music club. I have been told that the club has appeared on French TV at least twice (as part of documentaries about Amy Winehouse) and has been mentioned in The Sun newspaper, which could tip it just over the notability threshold - however I can't actually prove any of this and a news search doesn't turn up anything (though I believe The Sun's website is payload protected). Can anyone help with this, or have I just been told a load of puffed up lies? --Ritchie333 (talk) 14:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Lists of notable acts in venue articles[edit]

Please visit Talk:Arlene's Grocery to see, and perhaps contribute to, a discussion on whether a list of notable acts who played early shows at the venue is worthy of inclusion it's article. It is argues that, since the acts weren't particularly notable at the time, their playing the venue is not worthy of mention, particularly if they played elsewhere too. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Diacritical mark – 'discothèque' in French, 'discotheque' in English?[edit]

Resolved: OED and Merriam-Webster both allow the use of the grave accent Chris the speller yack 18:02, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I can find no good English dictionaries that spell "discotheque" with the grave accent over the first 'e'. I was considering dropping the grave accent in articles where "discothèque" is used as an English word, but I expect some resistance from editors who have taken a course or two in French and pride themselves on knowing how to use diacritical marks with French words. No affront to the French nation is intended, but "discothèque" is a French word, and "discotheque" is the English word that is derived from it, and this is the English Wikipedia. Is there something else I need to know before applying consistent English spelling for this? Chris the speller yack 16:18, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. I am told that the OED seems to prefer to spell it with the grave accent, and on double-checking Merriam, it allows "discothèque" as a variant spelling. So the diacritical mark is tolerated in both American and British English. Chris the speller yack 18:02, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

"Nightclub" entry should be "Dance Club"[edit]

The term "nightclub" was well-established (long before the advent of discotheques) as a term primarily referencing what's known as "cabaret."

In the US at least, the term "nightclub" continues to refer to establishments open predominantly at night that exist primarily to offer various forms of entertainment. Dance clubs are a form of nightclub, but so, too (unquestionably), are jazz clubs, comedy clubs, and many other forms of nighttime entertainment venues. The Wikipedia entry titled "nightclub," which discusses only dance clubs, is therefore grossly misleading.

The "nightclub" entry should be retitled "dance club," and an entirely new entry for "nightclub" should be created, surveying the range of venues -- or at the very least, as a disambiguation listing the entries for the various venues that the term "nightclub" subsumes.' (talk) 12:04, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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Es Paradis[edit]

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I'm wondering if any one from this task force has heard of this club/venue. It has been tagged with {{Primary sources}} since 2010 and I don't think it meets WP:ORGDEPTH. I did ask about it at WT:SPAIN#Es Paradis around a month ago, but so far I've gotten no repsonse. I was going to prod it, but I figured I'd ask about it here first. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Es Paradis[edit]

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