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Senior Editor II

—CYBERPOWER (Merry Christmas)
Find out why my signature changes color.

Hello!! I am Cyberpower678. I am an administrator on Wikipedia. Despite that, I'm still your run of the mill user here on Wikipedia.
I specialize in bot work and tools, but I lurk around RfPP, AfD, AIV, and AN/I, as well as RfA. If you have any questions in those areas, please feel free to ask. :-)
For InternetArchiveBot matters specifically, please see meta:InternetArchiveBot/Problem for common issues or meta:User talk:InternetArchiveBot to leave a message
I also serve as a mailing list moderator and account creator over at the Account Creation Center. If you have any questions regarding an account I created for you, or the process itself, feel free to email the WP:ACC team or me personally.
At current I have helped to create accounts for 2512 different users and renamed 793 other users.
Disputes or discussions that appear to have ended or is disputed will be archived.

All the best.—cyberpower

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Cyberbot I

Cyberbot I clerked Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple#Hey now, you're an editor → MC-123 as if the user's name were "Hey now" stopping before the comma.

My previous request about the bot's handling of "Newname" got archived without any response - User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 74#Newname. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 09:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cabayi, I'll take a look when I can, but it's a low priority for me right now. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it clerked User:Aron alexis cubas jara as a non-existent user. Cabayi (talk) 21:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cabayi, because it doesn't actually exist on this wiki. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 16:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The account had 2 edits to WP:CHUS at the time of clerking - Special:Permalink/989544298#Aron alexis cubas jara → AlbeyroBamBam and the malformed section above. It definitely existed. Cabayi (talk) 18:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taichung Time Square CBD

Hi Cyberpower678. Would you help with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taichung Time Square CBD, where Cyberbot I has made a series of edits to unsuccessfully try to transclude the AfD? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)

Done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 03:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, P,TO 19104 (talk · contribs), for fixing the relisting! Cunard (talk) 02:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberbot I blanking

Dear Cyberpower678,

cyberbot I emptied Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple [1]. Same seems to have happened yesterdag [2]. I have reverted. Could you have a look. Thank you!

Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This has been happening for a while now. Please take a look into the issue. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 00:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted second blank within a day. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ArchiveBot false negative

Archive bot falsely claims that Variety links are working when they are 404 dead.[3] (This is a false negative, rather than a false positives. Also your reporting tools require a login.) Variety.com has a lot of dead links[4] that return 404. (Seems something to do with changing from or to a Wordpress based site and many links were broken in the process. In many cases the same articles can be found eleswhere on the site, but a bot providing an archive copy would be better than editors having to try and find the moved page.) There is another 404 page and if you get that version the link is more likely to be really dead. -- 109.78.199.136 (talk) 15:04, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be that as it may, I checked the Wayback Machine and the Frank Langella/Transformers article was archived there, as were the rest of the Variety/404 articles, see [5]. Shearonink (talk) 16:46, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly the bot is wiser than us? I've checked a link from the first page linked:

https://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007075.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

and it actually ends with 404. Same result for the link with additional parameters removed:

https://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007075.html

However the link truncated to an article ID only:

https://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007075

resolves to:

https://variety.com/2009/film/markets-festivals/frank-langella-set-for-wall-street-2-1118007075/
Frank Langella set for ‘Wall Street 2’

which seems to be precisely what the original link was meant to point to. Is it possible the bot did discover it, but forgot to put a resulting link to an article...?

--CiaPan (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[P.S. this comment was in reply to the comment from Shearonink. The comment from CiaPan was inserted later for no apparent reason]

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm pointing out a specific failure in the bot because it might represent a general failure of ArchiveBot to correctly identify dead links (perhaps because Variety or others aren't serving up properly/strictly formatted 404 error messages). I know archive copies are available (in most cases) and I know I could add an archive copy manually. The links were dead, I tagged them, I was expecting the a bot would automatically add archive links and save me or any other editor from having to do it manually. Instead a bot incorrectly claimed the pages were not dead (a false negative) and removed the dead link tag entirely.

At worst I expected the bot to change the dead link/404 tag to "fix-attempted" but I did not expect it to remove the 404 tag when the link was and clearly still is dead. -- 109.78.199.136 (talk) 00:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IABot (v2.0.8) has now twice wrongly removed the template {{Dead link}} for this link at Hotel Chelsea. Why would it do that? Can it be taught to stop that? (I've now replaced that dead link with a working one.) -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IABot behavior seems strange to me too Michael but 404 error messages do not always follow the standards and it can be surprisingly difficult for programs to figure out. In some ways I'm pleasantly surprised that the various bots work at all.

Cyberpower678, as you may have noticed from the above comments inserted by CiaPan, it is often (but not always) possible to fix the broken Variety links and get redirected to the right working page. If someone wants to make a bot or script that is clever enough and reliable enough to fix the broken and out of date Variety links that would be great but it seems CiaPan should bring that up as a separate question. I'm not asking for anything that complicated.

All I'm asking for is that IABot not incorrectly remove broken link tags from Variety references please. Thanks in advance. -- 109.79.165.0 (talk) 21:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[109.78.199.136 You are clearly wrong. My comment has been inserted earlier but you deleted it for no apparent reason. --CiaPan (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)][reply]

Hmm, that is weird, seems I did knock out your edit, it wasn't intentional. Not sure how that happened at all.

Checking to see if live articles are available is a whole other question (and it can usually be answered using a search engine if that's what you want to spend your time doing). I just want InternetArchiveBot to add archives. -- 109.76.200.10 (talk) 22:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another example of IABot claiming that Variety.com URLs are working when they are 404.[6] -- 109.76.200.10 (talk) 22:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please restore a deletion discussion that Cyberbot vanished?

Cyberbot's diff seems to have blanked a deletion discussion. Also the link on Cathy Tie that used to go to the not-yet-closed deletion discussion now goes to a blank page. Hoping you can fix this--thanks! HouseOfChange (talk) 14:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, the problem got fixed. Nothing to see here, maybe just my own mistake. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate of url-archive

Please configure your bot InternetArchiveBot to do not add the Wayback template on cites that already was using archive params in eswiki. It is redundant and cause duplicate information. See this edit. The bot adds {{Wayback}}, but the same data and the same display information was generated by the |urlarchivo= (or |archive-url=) and |fechaarchivo= (or |archive-date=) params used in the cites. I do not want to think about how many hundreds or thousands of articles may be duplicating the same message. Sshould stop doing that and fix how many cases it has duplicated. -- Leoncastro (talk) 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was a cfg problem related to the template "Cita diccionario" that should be fixed now. -- GreenC 21:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is not only related to "Cita diccionario"; see here the same problem with "cite news"; here with "cita libro"; here with "cite web"... and over and over again with all templates. It is a problem that is being over-repeated. Sorry but, if the problem continues and is not solved soon, I will request the bot to be temporarily blocked in eswiki. -- Leoncastro (talk) 14:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The bot is currently stopped (or will soon). -- GreenC 16:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

However, hours later the bot still has not stopped, and keeps repeating archived links. In the meantime, you can start thinking not only about how to fix the bot so that it does not repeat the information in the future, but also how to fix hundreds or thousands articles where the bot has already duplicated the information. -- Leoncastro (talk) 23:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was stopped. A different problem was found. It was fixed. The bot was restarted. The edit you linked was 9 hours ago, before the bot was stopped or fixed. -- GreenC 00:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know why you consider it a different problem. The bot was creating double archived links, and there were multiple citations left with that double link (traces of the same problem). If the bot is no longer producing errors, it is good that it is continuing its work (and I am grateful that it has been fixed and is still working properly), but... what is going to be done to fix the problem where the double link was already generated? -- Leoncastro (talk) 20:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Internet Archive Bot: "urlmorto = yes" on Italian Wikipedia

Hi! I'd like to thank you very much for your work on Wikipedia and with the Internet Archive Bot. However, there's a think I would like to point out: when the bot finds a link which is no longer valid, the link displays in the "deadurl" field, "urlmorto = yes" instead of "urlmorto = sì". There are no problems with "urlmorto = no" since "no" has the same meaning in italian and in english. Would you be so kind to fix it? --Marcodpat (talk) 13:38, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, when IABot is activated manually, it leaves "deadurl" instead of "urlmorto", as you can see here. --Marcodpat (talk) 15:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Marcodpat, IABot reads the configuration found at it:Module:Citazione/Configurazione. Because the values for DeadURL are not explicitly found anywhere in the primary module or the configuration, it will default to English values. In addition to that, the bot is reading your DeadURL value in the configuration, so it will use deadurl as the default when no dead url parameter is defined in the template, as that is the first value defined in the configuration. To use urlmorto, I would suggest changing the DeadURL array in the module configuration to have it come first in the list instead. That is, all you need to do is change Line 94 to

['DeadURL'] = {'urlmorto', 'deadurl'},

and the bot will adjust to that. You can also define additional keywords in the keywords segment. IABot will read the 'live', 'dead', 'bot: unknown', 'usurped', and 'unfit' keywords and apply them to the configuration. See Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration#L-587 for those examples. You will need to citation_config.keywords in your version. I would do it myself, but I do not have permission to alter that page. —CYBERPOWER (Around) 17:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

InternetArchiveBot: "url-access" in Polish Wikipedia

There is no argument "url-access" implemented in any citation template in Polish Wikipedia. However the bot is inserting this in articles ie. [7]. There is a category in plwiki, which collects citation templates with incorrect arguments. The category should be empty. There is a few items per week, but they are fixed immediately. However recently is was flooded with a lot of articles. Please stop adding any arguments, which are not supported in templates. Avaliable list you can find in templatedata provided in template documentation pages. The only template with corresponding argument to url-access is pl:Template:Cytuj and argument dostęp, but this need values in Polish. They are collected in pl:Module:Cytuj/dostęp as index in table choice. Paweł Ziemian (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now fixed. -- GreenC 21:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Additional problem on pl.wiki

I had to block IABot on pl.wiki. Turning it on via console did not work and bot continued to operate for the next few minutes until I blocked it. There is also a discussion going at pl.wiki about some of the edits that IABot made since it started operating:

Just changing http to https – Is it possible to avoid making an edit when it is only supposed to add 2-3 characters?
Destroying good and working citations
Adding books to citation without getting permission for this kind of edits – Is it possible to configure the bot to make this kind of edits only after getting the permission at Village Pump?

Thank you! Nadzik (talk) 08:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nadzik, changing http to https is an important aspect to internet security. I would high advise against disabling this feature of the bot. Even if it is a minor change, it's a major one in terms of security. Your second link confuses me, the edit was good. The link it fixed was bad. What's the problem here? For the third one, did we not request permission to do this? We filed for permission in the approval process as can be seen here. The bot is approved to link to books of book references, so I'm not sure why this is a problem. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberpower678, 1. I will let you know what the community decides, some people are not keen supporters of that. I totally agree with you. 2. It did fix one link, but it destroyed another one. Look at the bottom of the page and see the errors for yourself (citation no. 3). 3. I see, I was referencing to a Village Pump post from 2017, I can see that you got the approval for linking books to sources. Some people are opposing that because they are worried about the copyright (As I understand there are no copyright violations at Internet Archive?) and that it would be better if bot linked to WorldCat, not a scan of the book somewhere online. I will keep you updated on that. Nadzik (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nadzik, For number 2, I see there are multiple definitions of the same reference, but the bot only modified one, causing the error to be thrown. It's a very rare bug, one I have not been able to fix at this time due to technical limitations. For number 3, as I am not a lawyer, I cannot talk about if it is or isn't a copyright violation with any authority. However the digital library, which is where these scans are coming from, uses a process called controlled digital lending which allows Internet Archive to loan out a copy of the book digitally as long as they own the physical copy of the book and do not loan out said physical copy. If the digital library owns two copies, two digital copies can be leant out. The digital copies automatically self-destruct after the checkout period elapses and the book is considered checked in once again. It's a modernized version of how physical libraries loan out their books. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cyberbot

Hi. I'm not very technical, but I think I'm right that Cyberbot normally updates the Cratstats template that populates at WP:BN. At some point, it's stopped working. Can you take a look please? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::: However, hours later the bot still has not stopped, and keeps [[:w:es:Special:Diff/132656295|repeating]] archived links. In the meantime, you can start thinking not only about how to fix the bot so that it does not repeat the information in the future, but also how to fix hundreds or thousands articles where the bot has already duplicated the information. -- [[User:Leoncastro|Leoncastro]] ([[User talk:Leoncastro|talk]]) 23:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 ::::: It was stopped. A different problem was found. It was fixed. The bot was restarted. The edit you linked was 9 hours ago, before the bot was stopped or fixed. -- [[User:GreenC|<span style="color: #006A4E;">'''Green'''</span>]][[User talk:GreenC|<span style="color: #093;">'''C'''</span>]] 00:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
+:::::: I do not know why you consider it a different problem. The bot was creating double archived links, and there were multiple citations left with that double link (traces of the same problem). If the bot is no longer producing errors, it is good that it is continuing its work (and I am grateful that it has been fixed and is still working properly), but... what is going to be done to fix the problem where the double link was already generated? -- [[User:Leoncastro|Leoncastro]] ([[User talk:Leoncastro|talk]]) 20:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 == Internet Archive Bot: "urlmorto = yes" on Italian Wikipedia ==