Talk:Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

This article wins the award for most biased article.

• "Gandhi inspired movements for civil rights and freedom across the world."
• What about the caste system?
• What about the Dalits of India?
• What about the Zulus?
• What about the Boers?
• What about the Kaffirs?

Claiming he favored civil rights and freedom across the world is erroneous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.255.91 (talk) 06:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Not to mention sleeping with a 15 year old female relative because he wanted to challenge "his temptations" while his opinions of the Holocaust are buried 23 paragraphs into his section on Nonviolence amongst an assortment of quotes. I also like how that one paragraph doesn't bother to quote what comments Gandhi made, but will spend those 3 lines discussing one person's criticism of those comments. I used to hold this article as a standard of showing how even the most positive historical figures have a dark side that should be noted in history, but yet this article has become another whitewash case like every article on a present or past historical figures on Wikipedia.Waxsin (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

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Lelyveld biography

Could someone with edit rights fix this? The section on the Lelyveld biography, at the end, includes in quotation mmarks a series of pejorative phrases, such as "sexual weirdo." But looking at the reference, those words are used by a reviewer in the Wall Street Journal, not by the Lelyveld book itself. Perhaps the phrase, "in the words of a reviewer," could clarify.04:55, 29 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Last dividend (talk • contribs)

Rewritten. Thanks for spotting this. --regentspark (comment) 14:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Asiatic Registration Act

It appears that this act was actually the Asiatic Registration Act (1906) as specified in History of South Africa. The article Mahatma gandhi also states that the act was brought in 1906 - although the rest of the sentence seems to be copied from here (or vice versa). The bigger issue is that the following statement is that Gandhi adopted the Satyagrah methodology in the same year. So is it 1906 or 1908? Perhaps the disagreement is because the Act may originally have been introduced in 1906 but promulgated only in 1908. This requires clarity.

Edit: Ouch. I meant this to be in Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi in South Africa where the act is mentioned explicitly and is stated to have been promulgated in 1908, not 1906.

Edit: Found this timeline resource from the Gandhi Research Foundation. It says that in 1906, the Transvaal Asiatic Law Amendment Ordinance was promulgated and it was against this that the protest in Johannesburg took place. The Asiatic Registration Act itself was passed in 1907, sometime in March.

122.162.27.211 (talk) 08:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Images

One too many and haphazard. Iv removed/rearranged a few but it still needs work to comply with MoS. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 13:12, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Brahmacharya, sexuality and related accusations

What is the dispute here? Please stop undoing others changes (without any regard for the credibility of their edits), just stating that it is disputed, when nobody is disputing it with any credible arguments!

I've given reputed evidences including "The Independent" and to be honest, I've really toned down the title and have not mentioned anything derogatory or explicit as given in these references! One of those referenecs goes as far as calling Gandhi a sex maniac, I'm trying to be neutral and have just mentioned here that "there are allegations against Gandhi;s sexuality". whats the dispute? --Praveen chandar (talk) 10:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

The present title suffices and includes the accusations in scope. Three different editors have reversed you on this till now - AnsumanG, MaterialScientist & self. Shows that the consensus is against the renaming. However, instead of being combative, make out a case here, let people comment. If its accepted widely then the change can be instituted. This reversion does not help considering we are trying to bring it GA status as a community collaboration. AshLin (talk) 12:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Apologies for the defensive argument posted above. While I agree that the consensus was against renaming the title, my vexation was out of the fact that nobody )including AshLin had put forward any reason as to why they did the revert (until Ashlin's response above in this talk page - that the present title's scope covers it as well). Anyways, I still believe adding "accusations" to the tile more reflects the content, but if the consensus is against it, I can live with it :)

--Praveen chandar (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

No issues. All in good faith. Perhaps you can follow some of our logic for development of this article on the threads prefixed "Master Class GA - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi" etc on wikimedia-in-en archives. This article needs careful development to tackle principally those issues which will lead to/hamper GA. Do consider signing on to Wikimedia-in-en. We need all the help we can get. AshLin (talk) 17:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Civil disobedience movement (1930-31)

The Dandi march (salt satyagraha) marked the start of the Civil disobedience movement. The article misses details about this movement. Moreover, the section Salt Satyagraha (Salt March) should summarise the main article on Salt Satyagraha. Instead, the section has more information that the main article, such as the campaigning of B. R. Ambedkar, or Gandhi's fast or attempts on his life. These could be spun-off into another section. What do you think? Tinpisa (talk) 22:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Will examine while rewriting. Currently involved in ref cleanup. AshLin (talk) 05:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Images of indian rupee

Would it be appropriate to add File:500 INR Rev LR.png depicting the Salt satyagraha on a 500 rupee note? Also would it be OK to have File:Indian rupees.png showing Gandhi on all bank notes? Tinpisa (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, non-free rationale prevents wide-spread use of the images especially since only completely free images are permitted in GA?FA. AshLin (talk) 05:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Maybe a link to Mahatma Gandhi Series (banknotes) and the image File:Lord Pethic-Lawrence and Gandhi.jpg could be used. --Tinpisa (talk) 08:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

"Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi" is Collboration of the Month for WikiProject India

There has been an omission on my part. I forgot to mention here that "Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi" is the GA Collaboration of the Month of January 2012 for WikiProject India. That means, all the actions for this collaboration are meant to help develop the article as a Good Article.

The main comments for this article are at GA review page, while previous comments on becoming and being dropped from being a Featured Article can be seen in the talk page header.

The improvement efforts include a Master Class on GA process on Wikimedia-in-en which can be seen on the archives.

At present, the reference cleanup is underway.

Since the principle defect of this article is that it is too long, well-meaning editors interested in developing sections/subsections are advised to develop the articles on which sections are derived from instead as most sections will get thinned in a copyedit post-improvement of references.

AshLin (talk) 13:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Referencing format

Uniform referencing is essential for articles undergoing GA/FA. I request all editors to please use cite templates and also to place surname, firstname, sequence in naming.

AshLin (talk) 17:22, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 January 2012

Grammar correction. Change "who employed Gandhi as a lawyers" to "who employed Gandhi as a lawyer".

97.117.34.249 (talk) 19:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Y Done By User:RegentsPark. Dru of Id (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Section 7 plagiarized

Much of section 7 on Principles was copied verbatim from the introduction to an edition of the Autobiography for examples. So I condensed it, rewrote it, and added new material and better RS. More needs to be done here. Rjensen (talk) 11:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Blockquoate fix

In the "Partition of India" section need to fix the blockquote citing. 46.35.206.137 (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)