Talk:Psycho-Pass

Timeline of Anime and Films

as far as i know the timeline for the psycho pass universum goes like this: S1 -> Psycho Pass: The Movie -> S2 -> Sinner of the System Case file 1 -> S3. i know that the other sinners of the system films play at different times starring different characters however, the prelude to s3 is not the movie with kogami but rather the one with the prisoners which is SotS Case file 1. The movie preludes s2 it also came out befor s2 aired. in the segment about the story of season 3 it says PP: The Movie preludes S3 which as i posted disagree with

Better Filehost

Can someone with a confirmed or autoconfirmed account please upload the image in the first reference (to the date when the series is set) to Wikipedia's servers and link to it? I would consider it fair use under an educational clause. Bno112300 (talk) 04:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Episode Summaries

I look up at episode list, but the summaries aren't even mentionned even after its airing debut. Could you summarize the released episodes please ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MisaoFan (talk • contribs) 14:36, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I recommend doing it yourself. though, if you are looking for new info though, there's probably more concise and up to date sites available on the net. If I were to fix this problem I couldn't stop myself using a bot, and that would cause a whole pile of problems. Bno112300 (talk) 04:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Kotaku citation

A month or so ago, I added a citation to a Kotaku article on Psycho-Pass. I know it's a review, but is there a way to implement it in the article somehow (e.g. Premise, Terminology)? -017Bluefield (talk) 05:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Creating a reception section with actual prose is the way to use them.Tintor2 (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Psycho-pass device?

As far I know there is no device installed in the body, the setting is a "cymatic scan of biometric data (of the brain)". Could somebody verify and edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.25.190.46 (talk) 02:18, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Psycho-Pass/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 22:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, hi. Tezero (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• I'm uneasy about Crunchyroll being used as a source, but since its chief purpose is to immortalize a tweet, which are frequently removed from Twitter (including in batches when the account is deleted), I'll give it a pass.
• Also, "Anime News Network" is inconsistently linked and italicized, but this isn't an issue for GA.
• I had to put publishers into a few sources that lacked them; please be more careful about that.
• The FURs could be more detailed, but also not an issue for GA.
• Is there any more information about the film? I'm not keen on one-line sections.
• Is it standard to include Themes as a separate section? I'm uneasy with presenting two sources' interpretations of the work as objective fact, unless they somehow got that information directly from the creators. Otherwise, I'd rather it go as a subsection of Reception.

I'll look through the prose and come up with any further comments a bit later on. Tezero (talk) 22:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I already gave the article a few touches based on the comments.Tintor2 (talk) 20:31, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

It's coming along. Ping me when you're done. Tezero (talk) 20:45, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there is another issue to cover. Already dealed with the FUR.Tintor2 (talk) 21:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry; I didn't notice it in your edit history. Let's do this. Tezero (talk) 21:26, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Dystopia

Is it really accurate to call this a dystopian future? It is somewhat Orwellian, but far from dystopian. If no one objects, I'll erase it in a week or two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.32.58 (talk) 19:24, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is a dystopia, and is sourced as such [1][2]. Artichoker^[talk] 19:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

We should use the genres by an official distributor. Other genres such as those from news sources can be discussed elsewhere in the article, such as in the reception. —KirtZ^Message 20:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. I reverted his edit to the setting description in the lead which refers to the setting as dystopian (which it is). Artichoker^[talk] 20:08, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Media not comprehensive

Since this is a GA and therefore should be comprehensive, the media section should discuss artbooks and soundtracks. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Allrighty but I can't read Japanese. Is there a site that has them all?Tintor2 (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The article's anime-related information also seems highly skewed towards season 1 only. Since this is a GA, Season 2 should probably be better represented. I would do this myself, but I have only seen a couple episodes from Season 2 so far... Sepulchralice (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Fixed genres

In recent times it has appears that some dispute has emerged over which genres Psycho-Pass should be under with unsourced claims being added such as classifying the show as "Fantasy" even though no citations support this. In addition there seems to be confusion over Mos:A&M.

Perhaps this will clear up confusion: "Try to pick the most accurate categories, and avoid redundant genres. For example, action is a subcategory of drama, so if you include action as a genre it is not necessary to also include drama. In general, two or three genres should be sufficient for most articles."

There CAN be more than three genres added if need be. Therefore, I have removed the inaccurate annotation in the genre section stating that having more than three genres violates MoS:A&M since it does not and have replaced Sci-Fi with the more specific category Cyberpunk.

Based on source evidence I have genre-ized Psycho-Pass as follows:

• Action-Adventure
• Crime Fiction
• Cyberpunk

Ace45954 (talk) 01:15, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Kogami and Tsunemori's roles

There have been some reverts in this article in regards to the role of the two leads: Shinya Kogami and Akane Tsunemori. Please discuss here before reverting again. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 13:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

I would suggest removing phrases such as "the main character" and "main heroine" from both here and the character list. These tend to indicate that the writer is making an interpretation of the characters' roles rather than being purely descriptive. —Farix (t | c) 14:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Also, if Rob2k19 makes an edit under the pretense of "slander", I recommend that the edit be immediately reverted and that he be reported to WP:ANI for violating WP:NLT and disruptive editing. —Farix (t | c) 14:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@TheFarix: - It looks like Rob is a new infrequent editor who doesn't know Wikipedia's editing guidelines. I gave a warning on his talk-page as any admin is going to look for this first. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, let's discuss the facts regarding Shinya Kogami and Akane Tsunemori. Let's hit these plot points in order:

1. August 23, 2012: The first promo for the series is released revealing Shinya Kogami and his voice actor. The tag line of the show is also revealed ("That muzzle dispenses justice"), which relates to Shinya Kogami more than Akane Tsunemori for plot reasons.:

2. August 28, 2012: The plot of the show is revealed, which states: "The story centers around the "enforcement officer" Shinya Kōgami (Seki) who is tasked with managing crime in such a world."

3. August 30, 2012: An updated version of Shinya Kogami's trailer reveals Akane Tsunemori.

4. October 12, 2012: Psycho-Pass airs in Japan. In the ending credits, Shinya Kogami is listed first followed by Akane Tsunemori. Note: In the TV 1 cast list via Introduction section on the Psycho-Pass website, Shinya Kogami is listed first followed by Akane Tsunemori.

5. March 22, 2013: Psycho-Pass has finished airing.

6. May 7, 2013: Executive Director Katsuyuki Motohiro, Director Naoyoshi Shiotani, and Producer Joji Wada are interviewed. In the interview, Director Shiotani states "From the beginning, one of the aspects of the story was how the heroine, Akane, would evolve and grow. She as the heroine comes in between the main character, Kougami Shinya, and his main rival, and enemy, Makishima Shogo. And another thing was Akane exists to be the audiences perspective into this show." Note: In the Design section of the said shows wiki, that very quote is there, and has been there for a year after I had to appropriately credit Shinya Kogami's role because someone only credited Akane Tsunemori's role even though the source that was link specifically called Shinya Kogami the main character (Most likely due to the Akane Tsunemori bias/ignorance/interpretation because people believe she's the main character.).

With that said, if you read that and look back at the edit history or my edit history, you will see that I specifically stated all that was mentioned (news, interviews, credits) to support my edits. Why? Because it is a fact. I only state facts. I credited each character for what they are throughout the whole page, especially Akane Tsunemori's "promotion" in Season 2 due to plot reasons. Shinya Kogami is the main character of Psycho-Pass because the show was made with him in mind. It is his birthright. Unfortunately, the majority of the world thought Akane Tsunemori was the main character because the plot was shown from her viewpoint. That has caused unnecessary debate when the answers were available from before the show aired. It has lead to Psycho-Pass information (wiki, fan sites, etc.) being heavily focused on her regarding Season 1 information with Shinya Kogami being branded as secondary/afterthought and his character being misrepresented. Then we have users like Theoban in the main page (and TheFarix in the character page) reverting factual edits and claiming that Akane Tsunemori is the main character after I appropriately credited her as that in Season 2, resulting in inconsistency in the "Story" section because he/she didn't read the whole section and obviously didn't read my edits that state the sources. Also, Theoban said that I was "undoing changes for little to no reason....". That's not accurate considering what's stated above.

@TheFarix: I have no problem with you trying to report me for the "Slander" comments(Even though the intention wasn't in a legal sense, but legal is legal. I only called it for what I saw it.), but that does not equal automatically reverting my factual edits that contribute to the page. My choice of words should not result in the facts being removed. Also, my views are neutral in case someone thought I was being personal. I only want Shinya Kogami to be given the proper respect he deserves because it is his birthright.

@Knowledgekid87: Thank you for the warning.--Rob2k19 (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Is it wrong to call both of them protagonists? I mean, I think even Kotaku referred to the two of them as protagonists, pointing out that Akane wasn't a good protagonist in the beginning of the first series. See here.Tintor2 (talk) 20:02, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Wrong in regards to the concept and plot of the first series? Yes. All official sources (confirmation) from Japan that I listed above focused and prioritized on Shinya Kogami over Akane Tsunemori. They are not equals. Kogami is the main character and Akane is the main heroine and point of view character as specified by Director Shiotani because that is what was decided in their vision. There is no problem with calling Akane Tsunemori the protagonist of Season 2 and the movie because she is clearly listed and credited as such so her description should be dominant in those sections. Kotaku are not relevant to this since they are not an official source from Japan (PR, Director, etc.) and have no ounce of power at all. Just saying. Anyway, I don't have much else to say. I presented and constructed my case in the clearest form for all to understand, which is not my "interpretation of a characters' roles" as TheFarix claims and is definitely not "little to reason at all" as Theoban claims, but an important confirmation to stop this misrepresentation and bad treatment towards the main character, Shinya Kogami.--Rob2k19 (talk) 00:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

@Rob2k19: Why do you take it as bad treatment. It sounds like we are meanspirited, please. Nevertheless, there are many cases where we have a character like Akane (see Vaan) so at least the character articles could get more indications. Also, by chance do you have creation information about Shinya Kogami? If so, we could turn into a GA after a bit of copyediting (sorry, English is not my first language) since I managed to expand Kogami's reception. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:06, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Already explained the bad treatment part. I won't be revisiting that depending on what the final decision is regarding the revisions. Just so you know, I checked the edit history from the beginning to what it is now and that is how I arrived at my conclusion. Basically, every page that I edited on is where the problem is located. Mean-spirited? No. More like not conveying the creators vision for these characters as they intended. For example (Actually happened): Omitting specified info from two character to favor another (#6 in original post) when copying straight from the source. That is not towards you, but the edits themselves, which has lead to the wiki leaning heavily towards Akane regarding the description of the series and the first series, along with the misrepresented specification of their character roles. Do I need to link each page to point out the problem so we can proceed to resolving this? Regarding Vaan, he is clearly a mix between Kogami (main character) and Akane (plot not centered on him then takes a more active role in the sequel) and he has been appropriately credited as such on his character page, but is it the same way on the main page? Who knows. Not trying to diverge too far from the main issue here. lol Also, no. I don't have any creation info on Kogami.--Rob2k19 (talk) 07:55, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

References

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Wonky English

Hi, new to editing Wikipedia, sorry if I'm doing something wrong. Just wanted to point out that there's a wonky sentence which makes no sense in the story section pertaining to season 2: "[...] and making it judge its self as a collective concussioness." I don't know enough about the show as I'm not very far into it, so I can't really guess what the person who wrote this was trying to convey. "[...] itself as a collective consciousness," perhaps? If someone could fix this, it would be cool. The entire paragraph is written quite poorly to be honest, no offense to whomever wrote it. Thanks. H1484 (talk) 04:33, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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