User talk:174.141.182.82

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Frustrating filter[edit]

What is a “Colton Cosmic” and why does that filter keep blocking my edits, like adding {{unsigned}} to an editor’s unsigned comment, or suggesting an RFC to discuss policy changes? —174.141.182.82 (talk) 22:44, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

You'd have to ask an admin- that filter is private, as far as I know. I've changed the template to adminhelp, in case you don't mind. Thanks, Lixxx235Got a complaint? 23:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
(Non-administrator observation) Hi, IP 174+ – this is Colton Cosmic, and here is a discussion about that user. Your IP address has been set to be sensed by a filter that is named for that user. Hope this helps. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 02:31, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@Paine Ellsworth: So I’m just in a bad IP range? Gah… would you happen to know what kinds of edits trip that filter? There were a couple of ones that I don’t even have any idea what the issue was. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 02:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
As far as I know, it is not the kind of edit that trips such a filter. If an IP address is linked to a blocked user, then it appears to be that association that trips the filter. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 03:20, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@Paine Ellsworth: Weird, the filter usually leaves me alone. It lets me participate in Talk page discussions, but it didn’t let me add {{unsigned}} to someone’s post. So… I’m lost here. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 03:27, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

How do you deal with unexplained hostility?[edit]

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An editor has made numerous generalized accusations about my conduct and my intentions, and has been entirely unresponsive when I’ve asked for details and civility. What should I do about this? I feel like “ignore him” is the correct answer, but I don’t want to just assume his accusations are baseless. (I’m not posting details here because I’m not looking for revenge or anything, just answers. Unless I should give up on getting those answers.) —174.141.182.82 (talk) 04:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Ignore him. Do not defend yourself. Read Meatball:DefendEachOther. If someone is being repeatedly offensive or unreasonable to you, and you continue to take the high ground, someone else will say something, and someone else saying is so much more powerful.
Also, consider registering. An advantage of editing from your own account is that, for better or worse, others will treat you more like you really are a person, and interactions such as you mention are much easier to track. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I think you should ignore him, because that counts as harassment and a personal attack if it persists. I would highly recommend creating an account, because it gives you more benefits and causes less suspicion about you making bad edits. Feel free to go to my talk page (click "bal") if you need any additional help. If I am not available, then try editor assistance. Good luck! ~~JHUbal27 07:07, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Sigh… all right, then. Thanks! —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

"Heroes"[edit]

Please dicuss matters on the article's talk page instead of edit warring and mis-appropriating WP:STATUSQUO. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 08:17, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@Edokter: I reverted your changes to something that has stood for a year, while discussing on the Talk page. Isn’t that what WP:STATUSQUO advises? —174.141.182.82 (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Templates for kerning quotation marks[edit]

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at User talk:SMcCandlish's talk page. PS: I concur with people above that you'll fare better with a real user account (both in getting editorial respect, and in not being falsely flagged by vandal filters).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  07:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

No offence taken[edit]

No offence taken, I'll try to do better in future. -- PBS (talk) 17:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

About your answering of questions[edit]

Hi! 174.141.182.82, thank you for volunteering to be a host at the Teahouse! We really appreciate your willingness to help! However, we see that you are pretty new around here and haven't edited very much yet. It takes a lot of time, background knowledge and patience to answer new editors questions effectively. So you should probably edit for a while before you sign up to be a host. That said, we hope you continue to participate and spread the word about the Teahouse to other new Wikipedians. Come back soon! LorTalk 12:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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As a extra note, i would also suggest that you create an account before you go around hosting at the Teahouse, it in addition will help people track your editing and gives you access to some extra privileges, along with helping with people like me decide if you're a new editor or not. For all i know you could've been editing at Wikipedia for years! So sorry if i'm incorrect LorTalk 12:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lor: I appreciate that, and I hope I’ve been helpful there! Please let me know if I’ve done the opposite. I never actually intended on “hosting”; I just had a question, saw a different question I could answer, and got stuck. And I have my reasons for continuing to edit anonymously, but I haven’t slept so I forget what they are. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 12:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
No! It's fine if you want to Answer questions in fact! If anything that's just the old boilerplate template. If it's a good answer, and conforms to the Expectations of the teahouse, i see no reason why you cannot help around there. Quite a busy place after all! LorTalk 13:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages![edit]

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Hello, 174.141.182.82. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived. Message added by w.carter-Talk 23:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template.

If you still want to know about WP:LQ[edit]

If you want to know more about WP:LQ, I could show you some of the relevant parts of previous challenges (the whole debate's huge; a bit much to absorb in one go). If you're still curious about my position, I could fill you in. I could even point you toward some of its less ...some of its more rational supporters if you want the other side of the story. BB's made it clear that the original question was about something else, though. Like I said, I brought it up as an example of a case in which "change MoS so that it matches the sources" was attempted and did not resolve the problem. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:18, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for cleaning up my typing error at Wikipedia talk:Article titles! —BarrelProof (talk) 05:56, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Quote tags RfC[edit]

You are NOT entitled to close this RfC, because you are too involved in its discussion. Only uninvolved third parties may close RfCs. You may however request closure at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Request for closure. If you do re-close, I have no choice but to bring this matter to WP:ANI. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 19:16, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Edokter: That is not your determination to make. As I said on your Talk page, see WP:CLOSECHALLENGE if you think the consensus could have been decided differently. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 20:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

March 2015[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Chillum 15:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
@Chillum: Wait, where was this block discussed? I know User:Lugnuts violated WP:3RR at WT:NCF, but I stopped at 3. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello. You were blocked for edit warring, not for 3RR. If you agree to stop reverting I will gladly remove the block. Chillum 18:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Chillum: Will I have a right to revert changes by others to my own comments? And will I have a right to ask how to do things on the appropriate Talk pages when guidance is unclear? —174.141.182.82 (talk) 18:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
@Chillum: I’m not asking this as a condition. I’m asking so I know what’s acceptable and what’s not. To my mind, the latter should be an obvious right of every Wikipedia user; not sure about the former in this case. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 19:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Our policy on edit warring describes the exceptions to our edit warring policy. There are only a few. Thank you for trying to understand Wikipedia's policies, they are a bit complex. Chillum 19:18, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Chillum: All right, I can agree to that. Thanks for being responsive to my posts here. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 19:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay I have unblocked this IP. Good luck. Chillum 19:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! —174.141.182.82 (talk) 19:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
DO NOT post on my talkpage ever again. Please take your pathetic trolling elsewhere. Thank you. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: I have never trolled on Wikipedia. I suspect you don’t quite know what that word means (suggested reading: m:What is a troll?), or else you just don’t like to assume good faith. But I’ll respect your wishes and avoid your Talk page as best I can. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 16:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Third Opinion Opinion[edit]

The third opinion question did appear to be neutrally worded. On an unrelated matter, I will suggest, along with other editors, that you create an account. The benefits of editing under a pseudonym significantly exceed the perceived (mostly mythical) benefits of editing only from an IP address. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

I didn’t know there were any benefits to IP editing, mythical or otherwise! I dunno, I just don’t bother. I think partly I’m just trying to keep myself from getting too involved in Wikipedia again. Not that it seems to have helped. Also, if there’s a systemic bias against productive IP editors, that’s bullshit, so I guess this is sort of a quiet protest against that too. But thanks for your answer! —174.141.182.82 (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
There are no actual benefits to IP editing. There are mythical benefits to IP editing, which are one reason why some unregistered editors persist in not registering, namely, that they think that IP editing gives them better privacy than registered editing with a pseudonym. The other reason why some unregistered editors refuse to register is, as you imply, a protest against the bias against IP editors. That bias is to some extent a stereotype, but it has a basis in fact, which is that, on an average, IP editors are less knowledgeable than registered editors, and that, while most IP editors are not vandals, most vandals are IP editors. Refusing to register as a response to bias is a self-inflicted protest-injury. Anyway. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Huh, didn’t realize that was a thing. But I’m stubborn when I’m feeling righteous, so I’m not going to stop editing from an IP address just to make people less judgmental. But thanks anyway. If that bias drives me and new users away from Wikipedia, so be it. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 20:32, 5 April 2015 (UTC)