User talk:Jtmorgan

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Criteria for HostBot invitation to the Teahouse[edit]

I wonder if the criteria for HostBot inviting a user to the Teahouse might be tweaked a little. I ask because I see invitations that seem incongruous. A new vandal's talk page often attracts a series of warning notices in a short period of time, and smiling along with them is an invitation to the Teahouse.

I'm not against welcoming reformed vandals to the Teahouse, or reaching out to the troubled with honey rather than vinegar, but during a contemporaneous campaign of vandalism, I think the invitation undermines the organic response from the community, and exposes the artificial response as risibly tone deaf and inappropriate.

I don't mean 'artificial' to be pejorative. I'd use it to refer to any artifice of human manufacture from the flint-shaped stone to robotic explorers of the solar system. They all need tweaking.

So, perhaps HostBot could check the talk page for indications of the user's reception by the Wikipedia community at the time an invitation is considered.

Just my two cents. I hope I haven't burned any bridges re the bouncers at the Teahouse. Cheers. Willondon (talk) 22:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Willondon. The bot actually does check talk pages before posting. See this function, which tells the bot to look for any of these strings, and not post if it finds any of them. It's a low-tech solution, I admit, and not always effective. But there probably won't ever be a true fix for this problem that will satisfy most vandal fighters because a) my general philosophy is always going to be to give people the benefit of the doubt; b) there's no hard and fast threshold for invitation, short of blocked/banned users, and I already exclude those as best I can. It's easy to code individual exclusion criteria, like having gotten a single level 4 warning, it's much harder to decide how many low level revert and deletion notices is "too many". And also more subjective. That said... if you can give me examples of incongruous invites, I'm happy to consider adding more criteria to the "skip" list to reduce false positives.
Who's the bouncer at the Teahouse, by the way? This guy? I guess I wouldn't want to have ticked him off either. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 01:24, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the gratifying response paying attention to this issue. I'll refrain from criticizing further until I can offer some concrete solutions, as you have. The tweaking is in the devils, or something like that. Willondon (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Tea House request[edit]

I'll try to come to the Tea house — Preceding unsigned comment added by Συντάκτης (talkcontribs) 02:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry; your request has been declined[edit]

Your request has been for the Teahouse has been declined. I thought about it but i can't make it. I'll try tomorrow! If you want to contact me, goto my talk page and clicked the New section tab and add a comment Συντάκτης (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)User talk:Συντάκτης

I hope to see you there! Jtmorgan (I'm a Teahouse host)[edit]

Hello, Mr. Wikihobbit! Why do you want to see me in the teahouse? Ginessman (talk) 16:53, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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Would it be possible to add one of the standard welcome messages such as Template:WelcomeMenu to the teahouse invitation when it's creating a user's talk page. I've just come across an editor whose edits and new articles show promise but also a total lack of awareness of WP:V and WP:COI.

In this case it looks as though User:XLinkBot would have added a welcome if it had been first to the talk page but didn't because User:HostBot was there first, resulting in no welcome message at all - not what anybody was aiming for I'm sure, and not in tune with the spirit of teahouse. Regards, Bazj (talk) 12:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bazj. The Teahouse invite is intended to serve as a welcome :) There are plenty of places on wiki where new users can find links to Important Things To Read. I don't believe that most newcomers ever read those documents when they're presented in a giant wall of text, as is the case in most of our welcome templates (design by committee FTW!!!). I certainly didn't, when I joined. I prefer to keep the Teahouse invitation simple, and to let people ask the questions they need answers to at the Teahouse itself, which is a pretty welcoming place. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 23:52, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
What you intend to be a warm invitation to the teahouse, when I was new I'd have taken as a requirement that I go to a webpage, publicly articulate my ignorance and wait patiently for someone to grant me a response. That would have been my last day on any wiki.
The newcomers may not read all the links in the welcome template. Like you I don't believe that they would. But I do believe that when they encounter an issue they'd be grateful for a guide into the myriad of wiki policies, a guide they could refer to instantly rather than waiting on the teahouse.
I'm not requesting an either/or solution. I'm not requesting that the teahouse invitation be altered. I'd just like you to cater to a range of newcomers, those who want community and teahouse, and those who want to edit without fuss and don't mind RTFM. Is it not possible to leave a welcome template AND a teahouse invitation? Bazj (talk) 18:01, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I think I understand that perspective. I would have no problem with User:XLinkBot adding the main welcome template after HostBot drops by, but I don't want my bot to be in charge of adding the main welcome template. - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 18:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


Hi I was wondering if you could tell me how to send a message to people.Goldengloveschamp (talk) 19:18, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

  1. Write on their talk page, preferably starting a new conversation by using the + icon at the top of the page,
  2. while on their user page or talk page use the "Email this user" link on the left of the screen,
  3. on any other talk page ping them using {{u|username}} like this... Goldengloveschamp. Regards, Bazj (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


Not sure if you are watching from your work account, please see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HostBot 7 for some questions to get this moving. — xaosflux Talk 03:09, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Responded. Thanks! - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 23:45, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

An email for Jtmorgan[edit]

Hey Jtmorgan, is HostBot a collaborative thing? If so, is it fine if I work with you? Sincerely, Koopa24 (talk) 21:32, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:Koopa24, welcome to the wiki! HostBot hasn't traditionally been a super collaborative endeavor, but it could be in the future. Tell you what: ping me in 6 months or so once you've got your Wikipedia legs under you and we can talk about sharing bot wrangling duties. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 22:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC) Ok, thanks! Koopa24 (talk) 18:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC) Email Me 11:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Best Host Bot Runner ever[edit]

Kusunoki masashige.jpg saviour of the teahouse Champion
Thank U for tea house invitation C824767 (talk) 01:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

May I work at the Teahouse?[edit]

Can I work at the Teahouse and be a Teahouse host? -Koopa24 (talk) 02:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)