User talk:Starship.paint/Archive 21

Belated holiday greetings

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Belated holiday greetings. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
↠Pine (✉) 05:46, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation

Hello! Your submission of Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SoWhy 20:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation

On 22 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that U.S. attorney general William Barr rejected his inspector general's finding that the FBI investigation into Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign was justified? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Awesome! Well done. -- BullRangifer (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for unpersoning you

You weren't practicing goodthink in MJL's happy civil safespace. It's nothing personal. I needed to make an example of out of someone, and you used a curse word. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 14:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I was just about to post on your talkpage, MJL. I'll just post it here - I'm sorry, I hadn't even realized there were rules (that's all I wrote at this point). I'd suggest leaving the rules on the talk page if you do it again. You can do what you want on your sandbox, but I have to ask why did you nuke the long comment I most definitely made in good faith? I didn't need to read the rules to offer an olive branch, that's what mediation is for, I thought. Check the timestamps if you haven't noticed the times each post was made. starship.paint (talk) 14:40, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I most definitely disagree with the unpersoning as the curse word wasn't directed at anybody, a bit rude maybe. That said, it's MJL's userspace. Speaking of MJL's prerogatives, MJL, I strongly urge you to append your signature at the end of my comment indicating you edited it to modify it, as I was uncomfortable even using Starship for Starship.paint. I would likely redact the whole post and refrain from making further comments if that can't be done. Speaking of of, Starship.paint, long time! Hope you have been well! Do you have a preference as to if and how your username may be shortened? I commend MJL however the effort turns out. Cheers! Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool:  Done
@Starship.paint: Hopefully, there won't be a next time lol. As to removing the comment, it is my distinct impression that DBigXray feels deeply hurt by your actions regardless if their feelings are justified or not. Sometimes the perfect message will fall on deaf ears if it comes from the wrong messenger, you know? Therefore, the less DBigXray has the need to respond to, the smoother the process will turn out imo. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 15:12, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@MJL:, FWIW, if someone 'unpersonned' me because I wasn't 'practicing goodthink' and they 'needed to make an example out of someone', let's just say that deescalation would not be the end result. You might want to adjust your terminology if you intend to use this process on a wider scale; otherwise, you're going to end up with a lot of people angry at you. Also, to provide a slightly more detailed rationale for why I am not participating, I've already spent a sizable amount of time trying to talk to DBX and I feel like I was essentially ignored. Attempting to have further discussion with this user while being forced to compliment them is a non-starter. Lepricavark (talk) 21:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@MJL: - the problem is that by removing two messages (including one in which I tried to help in a nice way) and leaving one message there, you leave an incomplete story about ‘Unperson A’, one that I feel paints me in a worse light. If people only read that remaining message, they’re going to think I’m an asshole, turning up to mediation with just that - especially given your rules. I’d suggest 2 options - (1) remove everything I posted, (2) only redact the swear word and replace my signature. It’s all the messages, or no messages whatsoever. starship.paint (talk) 00:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool: - starship is fine, it’s the only way people have shortened it so far. I don’t really care (so maybe you can try “hip pain” next time) - just like the ‘unpersoning’, it’s fine, I can ‘take a loss’. I’ve been well, Usedtobecool. How are you? Thanks for taking part in the WP:ANI and the mediation, that required at least some effort. starship.paint (talk) 00:23, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Lepricavark: (and MJL, but read 00:07 first) I wonder how much goodthink there is in accusing someone of harassment within the mediation, while also demanding the other person leave the mediation effort? Of course, this person can’t be unpersoned, that would ruin the entire mediation. starship.paint (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Lepricavark and Starship.paint: I'm trying my best here!
Did I make a questionable judgement call? Yes. Do I feel confident that everyone here won't hold it against me? Yes.
If the mediation doesn't work out, my plan was always to just blank the page. We seem to be approaching that scenario. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Also, since even my pretend totalitarian regime operates based off consensus, I've restored your comments per above. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

MJL, I am fully aware that you are trying your best. No, I'm not holding it against you, as you said, it's nothing personal. Thanks for the restoration. starship.paint (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Viva la Renaissance! InedibleHulk (talk) 03:15, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Stay away

You are banned from posting on my user talk ever. We seem to have completely different article interests and I have no intentions to engage with you 'anywhere' on Wikipedia. --DBigXrayᗙ 08:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

In light of the fact that Starship.paint has not posted in DBigXray's talk page in over a week, it is hard to interpret the hostility of the above post as anything less than harassment and it will be used as evidence of such if/when this goes back to ANI (or to ArbCom). FWIW, I will refrain from posting at DBX's talk page in the future and I request that they refrain from posting at mine. Lepricavark (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Lepricavark, I appreciate the sentiment, thank you. As for me, I do not consider this particular post as harassment. I will respect your wish and avoid posting on your talk page, DBigXray. Though this project is large, you may unfortunately still see me elsewhere, like WP:ITN. I would like to express that I am sorry that my efforts didn’t work - and I acknowledge that I did play an important role in that lack of success. In meaning to demonstrate that templates aren’t the best method of communication, I think I achieved that too well, and I didn’t realise that would be unhelpful. Now, DBigXray, some last words. Look within yourself to find whether you are also doing what you are accusing others of. starship.paint (talk) 01:09, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

You know what else isn't "the best method" of communication? Collapsing another man's beeswax! But I think I get what you were trying to do there, and appreciate it, so you're still welcome (still 'member Moppy?) Lepricavark, you're cool, too. DBX, your ban is rescinded due to your seemingly genuine concern about my potentially becoming a teddy bear's picnic last summer, but I still think Tiger Squad was a mistake. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:00, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Eh, you can't communicate on that topic any more at the present, that's why. Yes, I remember Kronos, of course. starship.paint (talk) 03:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Can't communicate on what topic, eh? Seriously though, I still remember. I almost forgot, The Eliminators Store called...they're out of U! InedibleHulk (talk) 03:17, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Funny, neither does Scott Adkins. starship.paint (talk) 03:24, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Strange! InedibleHulk (talk) 03:34, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Reply to your question

Hello Starship.paint, I'm not sure the best place to answer your question, but the answer is here:

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/importing-and-exporting-medical-devices/importing-medical-devices-and-radiation-emitting-electronic-products-us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathematician0 (talk • contribs) 05:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mathematician0: - we should be using a reliable news source reporting on this issue, rather than taking the data straight from the FDA. starship.paint (talk) 07:07, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Good job

Good job! and thanks [1]. Creating an article such as this has been rolling around in my mind since I started to notice some disturbing remarks and assertions, as well as dissonant behaviors coming from the White House. (Did it begin two months ago, or is it three months ago?) I thought this needs to be preserved for posterity with its own article. I'm glad to see a couple of editors (you and ViperSnake151) have seized the initiative on this! Thanks again. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Copying over

Hi Starship.paint! I've noticed a bunch of your edit summaries at some of the coronavirus articles say "copied over from". Are those copies (where the info is retained at the original) or moves (where it's deleted at the original)? If it's copies, you may want to consider using {{Excerpt}}, so that the material can be maintained and updated more easily. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 09:06, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Sdkb: - thanks for the concern. Some are moves (where the material has already been deleted in the curent version, I copied from old versions), and some are copies (especially from the Misinformation article, I think). I'm probably copying paragraphs or sentences, so I'm not sure if the template will work. If the number paragraphs are changed we will have a problem. starship.paint (talk) 09:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, an important article.

KasiaNL (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@KasiaNL: - thank you so much! Appreciate it :) Happy to work on such an article. starship.paint (talk) 07:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

The Holocaust in Belgium/France

The same editor has, unfortunately, made the same edit again without explanation either in the edit summary or talk page. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:58, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brigade Piron: - final warning delivered. Ping me again for the next round and I'll take it to WP:AN3. starship.paint (talk) 12:53, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

That's very kind, many thanks. I've never come across someone who does not engage at all like this before. —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brigade Piron: - they are very new, so I'm not that surprised. They don't exactly know how it works here, and they probably don't care. starship.paint (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Jogging / Running

Thanks for your Bold solution to the controversy. I think that's a good compromise/solution. I didn't even think of that. Good/fair thinking – Chrisvacc (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Chrisvacc! :) starship.paint (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I keep laughing every time I read the phrase "two armed men." – Chrisvacc (talk) 01:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisvacc: - I see. Would that be black comedy? starship.paint (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Starship.paint: No it's just that most men have two arms :P – Chrisvacc (talk) 03:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

The One-Armed Man – Chrisvacc (talk) 03:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh yes Chrisvacc, I did understand the pun. That's why I referred to black comedy. starship.paint (talk) 05:14, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh okay haha – Chrisvacc (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Manually archiving Trump

If you don't like Talk:Donald Trump#Current consensus #13, make a proposal to change it. I would oppose, as I remember what things were like before it imposed a bit of order and structure.

You're free to try a close of either or both discussions. If the close survives for 24 hours without an objection, the thread is then eligible for manual archival. ―Mandruss ☎ 07:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• @Mandruss: - nah. I don't care enough to do so. starship.paint (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

RfC Arbery

@Starship.paint: I'm banned from the page, lol. – Chrisvacc (talk) 04:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

• @Chrisvacc: - I'm fully aware of that, but you may be unblocked before the RfC ends, and I was pinging everyone who had yet to comment there. Were you not in the mess, you could have responded. Please consider the situation carefully. starship.paint (talk) 04:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

10 Steps ahead of ya' :D – Chrisvacc (talk) 04:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisvacc: - I'm going to give you one chance to admit that you're NewsGuard. Either you are innocent, or you are guilty. If you are guilty, you'd better admit it immediately, because you are totally screwed. I cannot stress how important your next step is, if you are guilty. starship.paint (talk) 04:59, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, beware the Ides of May! InedibleHulk (talk) 06:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hack of Jeff Bezos's phone

On 21 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hack of Jeff Bezos's phone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that FTI Consulting has concluded with "medium to high confidence" that Jeff Bezos's phone was hacked by a file sent from the Saudi Arabian crown prince's WhatsApp account? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hack of Jeff Bezos's phone), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 07:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC) 12:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Death of George Floyd

On 28 May 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Death of George Floyd, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — RealFakeKimT 09:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

• @RealFakeKim: - thanks for the recognition. Could you also recognize User talk:DIYeditor - from this link [2], you can see that they are the #3 author of the page. They've added more text than Kire1975, whom you recognized. starship.paint (talk) 09:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

• Done! — RealFakeKimT 10:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  Cheers and thanks again, RealFakeKim! starship.paint (talk) 10:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

ECs

Please give me a ping when you're done for the night. I keep edit conflicting with you on cite cleanup. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mandruss: - I'm sorry about that. It's actually not night where I am. How about I leave the article alone for 30 minutes right now for you to do one round of cleanups first? starship.paint (talk) 03:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok, very generous of you. I may not use all of 30 minutes, so I'll ping you. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Nuff for now. All yours. ―Mandruss ☎ 04:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for an important issue

		The Black Lives Matter Barnstar
		Thank you for your hard work on the article about the killing of George Floyd as well as your early work on the Black Lives Matter WikiProject! Shrinkydinks (talk) 08:07, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Shrinkydinks: - thank you very much. For the second half, I assume you were referring to Template:Black Lives Matter? Because I haven't actually directly contributed to the 2-day old WikiProject. starship.paint (talk) 08:22, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

230?

104 + 188 = 292. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Mandruss: - oops, my bad. My brain substituted the next 130 in the place of 188. I never even saw 188. Sorry! starship.paint (talk) 03:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Contact

Hello:

You have recently edited a page that I am doing some academic research on, in particular how that page evolves over time. I was wondering if could ask you some easy questions you may know the answers to outside of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skcocemag (talk • contribs) 17:42, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Skcocemag - sure, email me or something? How would you like to contact me? starship.paint (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, email would be great. I'm super inexperienced with the editing mechanics so if there is a place that lists your email (I thought that there was based on some readings), I can't find it! Skcocemag (talk) 03:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Skcocemag - (1) first go to [3] and add your email to this account. (2) then on this very page, CTRL-F Email this user - it's on the left bar. starship.paint (talk) 03:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

It says, "this user has chosen not to receive email from users." Skcocemag (talk) 14:56, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Skcocemag: - oops, try again now! You’re new, so I needed to change another setting. starship.paint (talk) 00:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery

On 8 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although the people involved in the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery were immediately identified by police, arrests were only made 74 days later, after a video of the incident was publicized? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

You Deserve It

		All-Around Amazing Barnstar
		In recognition for continual, high-quality editing on current events often extremely politically-charged and difficult to manage by all but the most outstanding editors. Your contributions are invaluable and of the highest regard. Thank you for all the work you do. Gwen Hope (talk) (contrib) 19:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Gwenhope: - thank you, I'm very proud to receive your appreciation. Are you well? starship.paint (talk) 04:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Starship.paint: as good as I can be. They've been working us quite hard at work, throughout the pandemic and curfews because of protests. However I am now engaged to my partner and I'm becoming more of a stepmom every month. Gwen Hope (talk) (contrib) 19:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations Gwenhope, wishing you smooth sailing in your relationships! starship.paint (talk) 04:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Trump article immigration

Hi. I see you asked me for a proposed revision to the text you and JFG discussed. I am preoccupied with community obligations relating to the pandemic for the forseeable future and have not been very active. I tried to provide some of the issues I think are misrepresented by JFG's language. I know you've worked on the immigration-related articles and I was hoping you could make the Trump article text and lead reflect the bigger picture along the lines I've briefly tried to suggest. I belive Scjessey also posted on talk. It's not clear to me whether a new RfC is needed to establish consensus replacing the former enumerated consensus text JFG changed, but at any rate if you are able and willing, I'd appreciate seeing your take on a more NPOV account of Trump's actions. Basically as with all the Trump-related material, I think this Administration's unprecedented disregard for public policy and civic order has hamstrung editors who are too willing to adopt Trump talking points, deflections, and misrepresentations, as if they were valid factual narratives, policy opinions, or interpretations of law and civic process. A policy of terrorizing asylum-seekers by confiscating and caging their kids, allowing several to die, is not strict enforcement, it is a crime and campaign of terror. While we do not need to state it in such terms, we must not describe it as a "strict enforcement", whcih in Sessions and Trump's own words, it is not. Thanks for all your good content editing. SPECIFICO talk 14:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• @SPECIFICO: - three of the sources you provided do mention it as enforcement. Kopels [4]: children were separated from their parents because of how administration officials chose to enforce existing policy. Pierce [5]: Enhancing Immigration Enforcement. Kandel [6]: "Zero Tolerance” Immigration Enforcement Policy". Another source I provided, Johnson also says [7] : President Trump's systematic efforts to dramatically escalate immigration enforcement. Whatever the description is proposed, it has to be common among the sources. I'm not sure if "crime and campaign of terror" would be the most common. starship.paint (talk) 14:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I hope I made clear I have never proposed using language like my characterization in any WP article. But "stricter" is the Trump narrative, along with his false insertions that Obama's administration was not strict or was lax. And the family separations and caging to scare away asylum seekers are described as such by adminsitration officials. I do not have time to research the full scope of sourcing - just as the cherrypicked sources JFG provided were from handy Wikimedia library sources. The central point, which I hoped you could correct, is not to misrepresent harsh, punitive, or terrorizing actions that provoked such public outcry as to be quickly reduced, as "strict enforcement" as if it were good governance and more efficient use of public resources to enforce existing policy in accordance with law. That is a misrepresentation by the administration. Thanks for your reply. At any rate, I think it's clear the text as mid-June could still have been improved and I was disappointed to see it put in the article overriding longstanding explicit consensus. We still need to affirm some new consensus text in lieu of the longstanding previous version. SPECIFICO talk 15:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK Buffalo police shoving incident

Hi I just started a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Buffalo police shoving incident but I am concerned the article is not eligible. Mujinga (talk) 19:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church

On 5 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that U.S. law enforcement used chemical irritants to disperse a peaceful George Floyd protest in Washington, D.C., shortly before President Donald Trump's photo op at St. John's Church? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Star

		The BLP Barnstar
		Thank you for your excellent work presenting sources in the discussion on the Donald Trump page. Rarely do editors contribute so much to a content discussion, and in such a clear and convincing way - MrX 🖋 19:11, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@MrX: - thank you for your appreciation. This is a serious matter for a BLP, and well, receipts were required. Godspeed to you. starship.paint (talk) 15:16, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Buffalo police shoving incident

Hello! Your submission of Buffalo police shoving incident at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:33, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Half Barnstar
	Thanks for helping me learn the editing process despite being of an opposing view. Youre a pretty cool, level-headed person actually and I want to apologize for coming off so combative months ago the first time we spoke on the Antifa page. I hope I can become a similarly good editor like you! Bgrus22 (talk) 23:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Bgrus22: - thank you, I appreciate the gesture. I believe that a diversity of political opinions is good for Wikipedia. That said, every editor, no matter their bias, must follow the rules. It is in Wikipedia’s interests to have editors who can follow the rules, to know what can be done, and what cannot be done. I wish you good luck on this journey (reminder that asking for too many third opinions can be considered as WP:FORUMSHOPPING). If there was a conflict at Antifa, I have already forgotten. Antifa isn’t a significant topic of interest for me. starship.paint (talk) 04:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Buffalo police shoving incident

On 28 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Buffalo police shoving incident, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after a shoving incident involving a 75-year-old man, two Buffalo police officers were suspended and charged with assault? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Buffalo police shoving incident. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Buffalo police shoving incident), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I Have Returned

Hey starship, I don't know if you remember me, but I was blocked over a year ago and was unblocked a few days ago. I'm going to start editing more soon, and I still remember that you asked me once to take the political compass test, which I did later, but I forgot to tell you my results, so I will do that now 😁. Bill Williams (talk) 02:25, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

For a reminder, when you took the test you told me that your score was 5.38 Left and 1.69 Libertarian, while my score after just taking it was around 1.4 Left and 2 Libertarian. Has your score changed since we last spoke? Bill Williams (talk) 06:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

I retook the test and got a [8] (2.15 libertarian and 0.13 left), however these questions are very poorly worded and generalizing with "all/none" so it definitely is inaccurate, for example "all authority should be questioned" implies that if my parent (one example of "authority") tells me anything (such as "you need to eat your food to grow properly") or the government tells me "you are not allowed to buy uranium because it has serious negative health effects", I should be skeptical, which sounds like some kind of conspiracy theorist paranoia, but if it means all decisions that have a significant impact on people and might be biased, then of course you should examine them closely... Bill Williams (talk) 08:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@LilBillWilliams: - yes, I remember you. Kind of scary, I took like 16 days off-wiki and got 6 wiki notifications, and then in 1 day you gave me 9 wiki notifications! I have taken the test again, I'm now even more on the economic left (6.25) and even more social libertarian (2.36). If you find a better test, tell me. Now, keep better to the rules this time. Be concise, not too verbose. starship.paint (talk) 08:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah sorry for all the notifications, I make a lot of edits when I see something that I think is ambiguous 😂 (OCD has its annoyances). Sorry for all the talk page arguing all those months ago, I will try to not do that again because it caused problems for everyone and wasted time, including for me. By the way I responded to something you said on my talk page once, however it was a long time ago, I added some more stuff recently though if you want to read it. Bill Williams (talk) 08:43, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

By the way there was an interesting test that I found, which in my opinion is a lot less ambiguous than the one I took today (originally I got a 1.5 economic left on the Political Compass, yet when I retook it, changed a bit and used "strongly" I got a 1.5 right, and then when I finally retook it and didn't use "strongly", I got the 0.1 left...). The test that I find better (at least when I last took it) was "I Side With" because the questions are much less ambiguous and it isn't as black and white, right or left, since the world clearly isn't that simple and making economics so two dimensional is what caused my left/right to be exact opposites when I gave almost the exact same answers... Bill Williams (talk) 08:48, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@LilBillWilliams: - send me a URL of the exact test you took. You've got to cut down on your verbosity, it's a bit of a chore to read through. Use the show preview function to slow down your editing, alright? Think it through, how can you write the least while conveying the same information? starship.paint (talk) 09:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

You're right, I will try to condense what I write. URL [9] Bill Williams (talk) 09:28, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@LilBillWilliams: - here's my results: [10]. What do you think? starship.paint (talk) 09:40, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

My results were also majority Democratic, Transhumanist, and Peace and Freedom (except more moderate), as well as a majority Libertarian and Republican as far as I remember (I took it a few months ago), however I will retake it soon and let you know. Bill Williams (talk) 09:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Notification of Rfc that you may be interested in

A discussion is taking place regarding the addition of the science fiction genre to the Tenet article. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 22:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Alternate accounts

I am just curious as to whether you use any alternate accounts to edit the website?--MONGO (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• MONGO, this is my first and only account. Why do you ask? I’m curious who else you thought might have been me. starship.paint (talk) 00:11, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I probably have you confused with someone else.--MONGO (talk) 17:22, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

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This discussion may interest you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Russia#Human_rights_in_lead Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? DeathTrain (talk) 01:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@DeathTrain: - you are right that lead follows body. Be bold and create a section (with updated sources). starship.paint (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

SP

You know I wrote the original article, right? This group has banned the creator. Pkeets (talk) 09:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

For your sake, Pkeets, I'm not going to discuss this article. starship.paint (talk) 09:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for taking the time to review the Ruth Williams Cupp article and DYK. You definitely helped make it much better. Let me know if I can ever return the favor! Remember (talk) 14:41, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

• Remember - you're welcome. My DYK reviews are rather strict, I would say. I'll try to keep a look of your review of Gerda's work. I don't need any help at the moment :) starship.paint (talk) 14:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Please do. I am trying my best but doing a review the first time, I am sure I screwed something up. Remember (talk) 14:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays To You!

Hello Starship.paint: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 01:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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• Thanks @Gwennie-nyan:, happy holidays to you! :) starship.paint (talk) 10:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Starship.paint, yay! I'm glad you respond happily! (someone else I did this for I was less well-received) Oh, I recently changed my username, I think it's cuter, fits better, more privacy. Do you like it? Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 11:58, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
    • @Gwennie-nyan: - I think you should do whatever the hell you want, it's your name, your choice. I have no opinion on it, LOL! starship.paint (talk) 13:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
    • Hulk likes it! You look smaller or something, definitely fits better. I think it'd be cute if Starship got a matching or complementary Japanese cat for the season, his signature has not looked complete and happy once since he abandoned his formerly beloved French-Canadian bulldog, Kevin. Or was it Kenny? Maybe Kintaro. Anyway, I'm still mildly drunk and genuinely happy for the both of you, not hopelessly sloshed and causing a Christmas scene. Good tidings to all and to all a good night! InedibleHulk (talk) 17:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

That is seriously the most thoughtful gift set I've ever unwrapped here, and it actually practically works, thanks! So much better than a bowl of strawberries that just sit there, growing no mold, year after year. Really, TAFKAKO, you shouldn't have! Anyway, I had a beautiful dream about Robert Palmer, Christina Applegate and a head of cabbage. Donald Trump was the president, time travel was mundane and Starship was a Samoan high chief, but then I woke up none the wiser, having to pee. Ignorance is bliss and a hydrated hulk is a happy hulk indeed! InedibleHulk (talk) 11:28, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Hulk be hatin' on strawberries. Starship smash. starship.paint (talk) 13:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

It's not like that, brother! It's just sad to know they'll never go the way all things must, per that instant classic, "Keeper of the Ledger". Oh, you didn't know? Think green, stocking stuffer, break it down! In other words, it's an eclectic free CD, you can listen to it on infinite loop while staring deep into our common unflinching strawberries till you realize the true value this planet places on normal, organic decomposition. Getting stuck is for fruitcakes, margarine and suckers! Seriously, next year, get me a candy cane, those things are made to last forever, it wouldn't have been weird between us! Gwennie, again, a pleasure meeting the new you, take care of our fine feathered friend here, don't listen to that CD together, it's cursed (or is it?) InedibleHulk (talk) 14:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I have to try to make amends here, I linked you the wrong CD. Wrong in the sense that it isn't the one with "Keeper of the Ledger" on it, in the sense that nobody really buys this "compact disc" stuff anymore and wrong because it perverts the good nature of Gwennie's original thoughtful collage. I didn't mean it to do that, but in hindsight it did, and I'm sorry. It's not easy alluding to green for the guy who already knows everything! If it helps, I do like the silver bowl. It reminds me of "Silver Bells", which reminds me to remind you, have A Very Poppy Christmas instead! It's more relevant, more appropriate, more short and sweet. It's even something people can listen to together for a change, no cursing attached. Cheers! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, all your comment reminds me of, interestingly enough, is the one song my father says he'll play at his father's funeral someday in the future — "Whispering Pines" by Johnny Horton. Anyway that was a bit macabre. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 00:06, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Just had a listen, it's nice. Kind of a similar message to my Woods, but less (no) bass and drums. I could hear it playing above my grandson's crib somewhere down the line. The part about the squirrels isn't exactly sad. I hope your grandpa's eventual funeral isn't mostly bad, either, a celebration of life, love and all that jazz. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, to be honest, we're all surprised he's lived this long. He's heavily smoked since before he was 10. He drank a lot until the late 30s. He lived a really hard life. Lost all of his teeth in his 40s. He's over 75 now. Sadly, he and my father are both ultra-right conspiracy people. Not like I would tell him I transitioned… ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 08:31, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Reading this reminding me of the punchline (no offense!) starship.paint (talk) 09:15, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

What happened to the content on Poppy’s religion? Did it ever exist? starship.paint (talk) 03:50, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Of course it exists, you nutty heathen! In every video, every song, every whiff of petrachor. A bit of a mystery, but hardly a secret, even her Wikipedia article speaks softly of the Truth.

Gwennie-nyan, your old man's old man sounds a bit like me. Weaning off the hooch at 38, on pace to lose the rest of my teeth next decade and smoking since twelve. If he can make it into the bonus years, maybe I can, too! I'm not a Clint Eastwood type of conspiracy theory tolerator, though, maybe my environmentalism and feminism makes me susceptible to melting away early. Only the good die young, as my Maiden always told me!

I think it's cool that you were born in the Year of the Dog but now identify as a nyan, not a lot of people our age have the courage. I once Googled my username and found a trans Redditor had stolen it. That's cool, too, but it's just not me, in case anyone's wondering. Deep down inside, I ain't nothin' but a hound dog, no G thang in my jeans. But I'm not ashamed to consider birdsong "moving" or wear pink sunglasses with a black singlet to dazzle my opponents into submission! Anyway, roll a fatty for this future daddy, changin' ain't easy. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

InedibleHulk, you're such a silly boy. Thanks for making me giggle. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 21:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

2020 Pre-election/Post-election lawsuits

Hi! I'm a bit new to actually editing but I've been working on adding any cases in regards to Pennsylvania election lawsuits (at the time of writing primarily in the pre-election page). In the talk section of the post-election page there's been a little bit of talk regarding the organization of the pages themselves. I noticed you were the one that split the pages in the first place and that you were a Senior Editor so I felt it was a good idea to reach out to you. I just suggested that we split the these pages even further to individual states due to the sheer number of lawsuits is becoming a bit too unwieldly for the current pages. If we do this I think we should use the current page(s) as an overall summary and a place for lawsuits that rise to Circuit Courts/Supreme Court. As I'm a bit new I didn't know how to do this or if it would even be prudent at this time. Thanks! TheBigRedTank (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

• TheBigRedTank - being a Senior Editor is worth nothing LOL. I think it’s possible to split, but we don’t need to split every single state, we can keep stuff like DC, Minnesota, New Mexico in the main article? starship.paint (talk) 09:03, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

• Starship.paint - Lol, I mean I think it counts for something, it shows you have experience editing granted it holds no authority but stil. Yea looking back at the article I can agree we don't need to split every single state. I think splitting Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin out of the post elections page (prelection page isn't bloated...yet) is needed. The others should probably stay due to the post election page moving to be more of a summary page and the pages that get split out as the lists of these states that the summary (main page) links to in the event someone wants to read more. Thanks again TheBigRedTank (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

• TheBigRedTank - if nobody disagrees with you, be WP:BOLD and go ahead. Someone will undo it if they feel strongly enough. starship.paint (talk) 00:15, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jenna Ellis

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Question

Thanks to mostly your and other users great edits I’m pretty sure that this article no longer meets the definition of {hoax} so I think the tag can be removed? What do you think? If I’m wrong please let me know. Kangarooooooooo (talk) 16:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)