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Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter – April 2016

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Food and Drink WikiProject
article assessment
Food and drink articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 13 28 48
FL 2 1 3
FM 139 139
GA 13 24 73 251 5 366
B 56 233 332 580 63 1,264
C 79 387 954 2,720 467 4,607
Start 23 323 1,641 9,846 5 3,787 15,625
Stub 1 26 554 7,828 5,040 13,449
List 9 69 109 466 23 271 947
Category 9 1 2 7,598 7,610
Disambig 7 150 157
File 2,999 2,999
Portal 614 614
Project 384 384
Redirect 10 71 537 2,682 3,300
Template 1 946 947
Other 3 186 189
Assessed 181 1,091 3,748 22,269 15,726 9,633 52,648
Unassessed 19 1,947 1,966
Total 181 1,091 3,748 22,288 15,726 11,580 54,614
WikiWork factors (?) ω = 181,761 Ω = 5.14

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello,
Please note that Pecan pie, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:08, 4 April 2016 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Move discussion for food charity nonprofit

Please see Talk:Moveable_Feast_(organization)#Requested_move_10_April_2016.

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— Cirt (talk) 20:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello,
Please note that Delicatessen, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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Girl in cake

Do we have an article or content in a section of another article for the type of giant cake from which a model pops out for festive occasions? I understand that these are sometimes made largely or entirely of cardboard and frosting, but sometimes there is a real cake outside of the hidden compartment. I have tried surprise cake, pop cake and popup cake.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:54, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

I.e., is there a page for this video?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
FYI, I have created Pop out cake.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Neutral arbitrators needed at Mansaf (Middle Eastern rice dish)

There is a very long-standing dispute at the article Mansaf, regarding whether it is properly termed a Jordanian dish, or rather a Levantine or Arab dish popular in Jordan and several other countries (it is also factually recognized as Jordan's national dish). I request that a few neutral editors review the discussion at WT:Mansaf and view Mansaf and offer their outside and objective opinion as to how most accurately and neutrally to describe the dish. MatthewVanitas (talk) 09:22, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Neutral editors needed at Mediterranean cuisine

An editor has, since 2007, been denying that Mediterranean cuisine is a valid category, insisting that dishes from any particular country are purely national (say, that Paella is Spanish, Risotto Italian, Tagine Moroccan) and that therefore Mediterranean cuisine cannot exist. Even when such dishes are cited to a reliable author like Elizabeth David's Book of Mediterranean Food, content is removed as not conforming to this stricture. I would be grateful if editors could join the discussion at Talk:Mediterranean cuisine and help us to reach consensus. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

There's no issue with calling for neutral editors, but please remember to do so neutrally. Ibadibam (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Could a few neutral editors view Mediterranean cuisine and both old and new entries on Talk:Mediterranean cuisine, and assist in reaching a consensus on the article's direction. With many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:07, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:Good Food Award winners has been nominated for discussion

Category:Good Food Award winners, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion and listifying. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Tamarind tree fruit used for beer - Austin, TX brewery

A coffee house in Austin presents "4th Tap Renewal Tamarind Wheat Ale" to its customers. The beer has a VERY distinct sourness I thought from added lemon. It turns out (via Wikipedia), "The hard green pulp of a young [Tamarind) fruit is considered by many to be too sour." Thusly, the VERY distinct sourness. ~dCb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.70.38 (talk) 02:31, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing. If you have a request for support using Wikipedia, then please ask. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

FYI: proposed merger

Proposed merge of Iru (food) into Sumbala based on the understanding that these two, along with dawadawa, netetu, ojji, etc. are much the same (even though there are slight variations across West Africa). Since there is no English name for this condiment, the question is which loanword to use. "Sumbala" seems relatively common. If of interest, please see merge discussion. --A12n (talk) 11:19, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Borscht FAC

Members of this wikiproject may be interested in the featured article nomination for Borscht. A source review would be particularly appreciated. — Kpalion(talk) 06:05, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

  • @Kpalion: You have performed nice work improving the article. I have added more reliable sources to the article. I notice that you have formatted the article's footnotes/references/sources in a very particular manner, so you may want to format my additions to match the style you've used. This will likely be easier for you to do, since you're already familiar with it all. North America1000 08:54, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

List of national liquors

Hello all. I found this article while inspecting recent changes and found it a mess, full of many national drinks that are not in any sense liquors - essentially a hodgepodge of favorite national drinks. I am calling for comment and some help cleaning it up. I excised many mentions of fermented drinks that are not distilled, but would like comment on whether rice wines, fortified wines, and mixed drinks should be included – my instinct is not to include anything not a proper liquor (a spirit or a liqueur). It seems that WikiProject Spirits is now inactive, so I have brought it here, where more editors are active. Thanks for any help you can give. MisterRandomized (talk) 05:46, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

  • @MisterRandomized: For starters, the country names in the article can be delinked, per WP:OVERLINK. North America1000 05:50, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
    • Will do. MisterRandomized (talk) 05:51, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
      • @Northamerica1000: One caveat: I just looked at a ton of "List of national X" articles (i.e. the ones linked from Lists of national symbols) and they all have country names linked. Do you think they are "particularly relevant to the context of the article" (referring to WP:OVERLINK again) in this case? MisterRandomized (talk) 06:03, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
        • Well, maybe the links are good for navigational purposes in some of these articles, or maybe not. I'm not too worried about it, but I think removal of the links would benefit the List of national liquors article; the entire page is lit up with blue links. North America1000 06:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
          • Seems fair - I won't stay up all night thinking about it. I'll remove those links then. MisterRandomized (talk) 06:12, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Krasnostop Zolotovski

Please help to get this draft about a Russian wine grape variety up to acceptable standard. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Fish dishes as subcategory of Category:Prepared foods by main ingredient

Fish dishes can not be accessed directly from Category:Foods, it has to be reached via Category:Meat dishes or Category:Seafood dishes. But is it not a distinct category for many people, neither meat nor seafood? Should I put in into the category mentioned in the title? CN1 (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes

Following a recent discussion at WP:VPR, there is consensus for an opt-in bot task that automatically assesses the class of articles based on classes listed for other project templates on the same page. In other words, if WikiProject A has evaluated an article to be C-class and WikiProject B hasn't evaluated the article at all, such a bot task would automatically evaluate the article as C-class for WikiProject B.

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Fried chicken

I recently got this article up to GA status. I believe the page is of pretty good quality at the moment, but it could use some work. I hope to eventually get it up to FA class. Anyone up for some collaboration? If you're interested, please ping me. It would be great to have someone to work with on this. Thanks, Omni Flames (talk) 05:19, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

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