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:Good idea. See the archives to check how many times it's been rejected on previous occasions. [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 15:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC) |
:Good idea. See the archives to check how many times it's been rejected on previous occasions. [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 15:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC) |
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::The argument against is simple and valid: the article is not about a term, it's about a group of islands. To start with "The British Isles is a term" would change the fundamental subject of this article. As Fionnsci correctly says, this has been discussed to death many times before; let's move forwards, not backwards. [[User:Waggers|waggers]] ([[User talk:Waggers|talk]]) 10:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
::The argument against is simple and valid: the article is not about a term, it's about a group of islands. To start with "The British Isles is a term" would change the fundamental subject of this article. As Fionnsci correctly says, this has been discussed to death many times before; let's move forwards, not backwards. [[User:Waggers|waggers]] ([[User talk:Waggers|talk]]) 10:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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:::@Waggers: From the [[OED]]:''The term is generally regarded as a geographical or territorial description'' - now what do you think they are refering to? [[User:Þjóðólfr|Þjóðólfr]] ([[User talk:Þjóðólfr|talk]]) 11:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I've semi-protected the page due to the roving single purpose IP addresses breaking the 1RR. Though I was originally very sceptical about it, the 1RR ruling seems to have calmed the article down and lead to more sensible discussions. Canterbury Tail talk 12:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
We have the "Island of Great Britain" ... so where is the "Island of Little Britain"?
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Hows about...
Instead of 'The BI are a group....' having 'The BI is a term often used to describe a group....' It'd be a nice compromise even having this just in the opening line and leaving the rest of hte article as is. Worth thinking about, It wouldn't harm the aricle but rather (in my eyes anyway) reflect its true nature more accurately. Fionnsci (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good idea. See the archives to check how many times it's been rejected on previous occasions. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- The argument against is simple and valid: the article is not about a term, it's about a group of islands. To start with "The British Isles is a term" would change the fundamental subject of this article. As Fionnsci correctly says, this has been discussed to death many times before; let's move forwards, not backwards. waggers (talk) 10:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- @Waggers: From the OED:The term is generally regarded as a geographical or territorial description - now what do you think they are refering to? Þjóðólfr (talk) 11:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- The argument against is simple and valid: the article is not about a term, it's about a group of islands. To start with "The British Isles is a term" would change the fundamental subject of this article. As Fionnsci correctly says, this has been discussed to death many times before; let's move forwards, not backwards. waggers (talk) 10:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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