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There was no Francis II, so why Francis I? Maybe "Francis of Navarre" is a better title. Srnec 20:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was in the person of Francis Phoebus. --Sugaar 20:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 15 January 2024

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Francis Phoebus of Navarre → Francis Phoebus – Per WP:NCROY: Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed. As far as I can tell, he is the only monarch named Francis Phoebus. Векочел (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose, I support some of these “of country” removals (if there is no other monarch by that name, also depending on the circumstances of the rm), but this is a bit too far. What’s next? Charles Albert? Charles Felix? Beatrix? I think in the cases that there is no number the “of country” should remain. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- In this case, there is no one else with an article on Wikipedia with the name Francis Phoebus, monarch or non-monarch. Векочел (talk) 21:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, in line with WP:CONCISE policy and WP:NCROY guideline. As far as I can tell, he's the only notable person (monarch or not) named Francis Phoebus. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Concision does not benefit the readers. Dimadick (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Great then, I suppose the article on the current British king should be moved to Charles III of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Векочел (talk) 00:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would support such a move. The current title contains ambiguity with Charles III of Spain. Dimadick (talk) 10:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. WP:CONCISE indicates that indeed consensus is that concision is of benefit to readers. The applicable guideline WP:NCROY supports this move. Bensci54 (talk) 15:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. – Hilst [talk] 20:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose - Normally, I'm inclined to support these sorts of thing (even though its against my personal preference), but using only a first name in the sort of circumstance really should be kept to names easily WP:RECOGNIZABLE, like Marie Antoinette or Maria Theresa. estar8806 (talk) ★ 02:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per @Estar8806 Killuminator (talk) 23:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The juggernaut is rolling on this one and, despite efforts to halt it, it will continue to roll. WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE and, latterly, WP:NCROY all support this move so there's really no grounds on which to object, other than attempting to relitigate a change to naming conventions via an RFC that has already concluded. — Amakuru (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 :'''Weak oppose''' - Normally, I'm inclined to support these sorts of thing (even though its against my personal preference), but using only a first name in the sort of circumstance really should be kept to names easily [[WP:RECOGNIZABLE]], like [[Marie Antoinette]] or [[Maria Theresa]]. [[User:Estar8806|estar8806]] ([[User talk:Estar8806|talk]]) [[Special:Contributions/Estar8806 |★]] 02:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 :'''Oppose''' per @[[User:Estar8806|Estar8806]] [[User:Killuminator|Killuminator]] ([[User talk:Killuminator|talk]]) 23:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Support'''. The juggernaut is rolling on this one and, despite efforts to halt it, it will continue to roll. [[WP:COMMONNAME]], [[WP:CONCISE]], [[WP:PRECISE]] and, latterly, [[WP:NCROY]] all support this move so there's really no grounds on which to object, other than attempting to relitigate a change to naming conventions via an RFC that has already concluded. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)