User talk:Parsecboy

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SMS Pommern

I have explicitly added "HMS Onslaught or HMS Faulknor" for this article. This, at least a few parts below, is one of the examples that show Faulknor becoming the likely culprit in the sinking of the pre-dreadnought. But I do agree with you, that with the sources available, Onslaught is the most likely destroyer to have sank her. I have also caught other sources on Google that shows the same thing, but these are mostly forum posts. Not trying to do WP:COI or WP:3RR here, just to clarify. hmssolent\Let's convene 08:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello. There are no reliable sources that I've encountered that support the idea that Faulknor sank Pommern. The website you linked to is A: not a reliable source, and B: plagiarized from the Wikipedia article on Schleswig-Holstein that I wrote (it's not a word for word copy, but there are significant blocks of text that are worded far too closely to what I wrote to be coincidence). John Campbell's Jutland: An Analysis of the Fighting, which is more or less the gold standard on accounts of the battle, credits Onslaught with destroying Pommern (specifically, stating "but at 0210 the Onslaught's first [torpedo] hit the Pommern, and after a series of explosions in rapid succession, her hull broke in two...", p. 300) According to Campbell, Faulknor had fired a pair of torpedoes (both of which missed) at a couple of the German dreadnoughts, not the pre-dreadnoughts. Parsecboy (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Question

Hey Parsec. A German navy squadron visited Brazil in mid-February 1914. Would you happen to know what ships were involved? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Would've been Kaiser, König Albert, and Strassburg - it was a "show the flag"/"test the reliability of turbine engines" expedition. See the first two for accounts of the voyage (if you're interested, or need a cite or two). Parsecboy (talk) 02:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Mel Gussow

Thanks for the help. Given the persistence of these editors I'll be surprised if this latest one doesn't switch it back on you again - but if they don't, then you'll have been right and my hat's off to you! JohnInDC (talk) 02:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. I see that Diannaa has blocked the account doing most of the reverts - if they pop up again let me know and I'll take care of them. Parsecboy (talk) 11:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she blocked anyone - at least not on this recent go-round - but no matter. If the article stays quiet then it's all the same. And a couple of extra eyes watching it for the (sporadic but inevitable) attempts to muck it up are always welcome! JohnInDC (talk) 12:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, Diannaa and I were sort of tag-teaming another situation last night and I mixed them up here. Regardless, I'll be here if you need me. Parsecboy (talk) 13:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

And here we are. I've blocked his account for 24 hours and told him to use the talk page to discuss the issue. Hopefully he'll follow the advice. Parsecboy (talk) 16:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Typically, the anon editors would abandon a particular address for editing altogether after it had been blocked and then pick up again with a new one a few days later. I am betting that the same thing happens here, only with a bit of delay built in for autoconfirmation for a new user account. It'll be easy enough to file a sockpuppet report if and when that happens. In the meantime we'll see how it plays out this go-round. Thanks again for the help. JohnInDC (talk) 00:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Are the IPs that are being used traceable to the same location/ISP? If so, we might be able to make a complaint to the ISP, of if it's an organization (like a school or business), to the organization directly. Regardless, if the activity resumes, a sock report is a good idea, as it provides a highly visible place to report each return of the editor which will ensure a fast block. Parsecboy (talk) 02:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

The IPs were all Verizon, all Manhattan. There were - I dunno, maybe 8 or 10. I reported a few to AIV, and MaterialScientist blocked two or three on his own initiative. I've assumed they were just dynamically-assigned residential service addresses but that was only ever surmise. I'm happy to follow the sock route next time. This editor is pretty monomaniacal and the puppetry would be obvious, I think, even without a Checkuser. JohnInDC (talk) 02:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the duck test would be more than sufficient in this case. Parsecboy (talk) 02:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Reinhold von Werner

I found a bit of info in volume 3 page 108 Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1990) (in German). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe. Biographien - ein Spiegel der Marinegeschichte von 1815 bis zur Gegenwart. (10 Bände). Mundus Verlag. I added birth date, death place and corrected death date. Not much I have to say MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for what you could add. I see he commanded SMS Renown - does Hildebrand et. al. say when he commanded the ship? Parsecboy (talk) 11:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

commander Kronprinz April 1870 – January 1872; commander Renown April 1872 – August 1872. According to Hildebrand ... he also commanded Gefion (April 1863 – November 1863 and again June 1865 – March 1866) Hildeband volume 3 page 187, Arcona prior to Nymphe; If you read about Arcona in Hildebrand volume 1 pages 235 to 244 you can only assume the Von Werner must have held command sometime in 1859. MisterBee1966 (talk) 06:11, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Furst Bismarck

The information from the Library of Congress does not support the caption. [1] The vessel apparently did visit the Phillipines and Samoa, but where is the source for the claim on Commons that it visited the US? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.208.203 (talk) 02:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't tell you, I didn't upload the image. What I can tell you is that captions don't require citations. Parsecboy (talk)

I realize someone else unloaded it, and apparently made some assumptions. The caption here does more than just identify the ship, it makes an unsupported claim where it is. Given where the ship served, and the history given in the German wiki article, it would be best not to repeat the same assumption, which is likely erroneous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.208.203 (talk) 02:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

A number of German vessels visited the United States, including ships stationed in Asia - SMS Dresden was in San Francisco at the outbreak of World War I, for instance. If you want to remove the mention of the ship's location, go ahead. Parsecboy (talk) 02:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I checked NYTimes archive, which does not mention a visit, and the LOC apparently does not know where or when the picture was taken. I will try to look further, as PD claim for the photo also seems to be weak (or at least the basis claimed for the particular form of PD is weak). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.208.203 (talk) 02:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

The copyright status is not in question; it's from the Bain News Service, which donated the image (and scores if not hundreds of others), which included a transfer of the rights to the Library of Congress. It's therefore PD in the US. Parsecboy (talk) 02:55, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

As far as I've seen, the Bain News Service only took pictures in the US... Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:01, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

For the most part, yes, but “The photographs Bain produced and gathered for distribution through his news service were worldwide in their coverage . . . “ [2]

As for rights, there are no known restrictions, but it doesn't look like the LOC goes beyond that statement. 24.197.208.203 (talk) 03:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I know Bain images have been discussed at a FAC or two I've done a couple years back, and the understanding is that Bain transferred the rights to the LoC. If I can find the discussion, I'll link it. Parsecboy (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, here it is: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nassau class battleship. Specifically, the comment made by Carl Lindberg where he stated "No known restrictions" is LoC-speak for public domain (it just reflects the fact that copyright and other law is extremely complex and it is impossible to predict future court decisions which may unexpectedly create new rights). The Library of Congress purchased the Bain collection (and thus the copyrights) in 1948 and placed them in the public domain, so it does not matter when the photographs were made or if they were published...The LoC only is putting up the photos where they own the negative (i.e. proving that it was authored and owned by the Bain company) rather than any of their prints." Parsecboy (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that link. The discussion mentions a specific template for the Bain collection, which I have now substituted for the US-PD one. 24.197.208.203 (talk) 03:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Library in regards to Bismarck

Hey Parsec! (or Nate, if preferred). Nice to see you have the German BB GT nearly under your belt. I've glanced at your library, andI seem to have a few books that might help with Bismarck:

• Conway's Anatomy of a ship: Bismarck
• Warships Fotofax German Battleships 1896-1945, R. A. Burt
• Ships and Battles, the Warships of Germany: 1939-1945 (in Russian)
• The World's Worst Warships Anthony Preston

I also have a few "jack-of-all-trades" books like Conway's Battleships 1922-Present, and etc. If you think you need any of these, give me a ping. Buggie111 (talk) 18:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I have Anatomy of a Ship and 1897–1945 too, but as PDFs. I ... uh ... found them online for free. ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 19:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I have most of those (Burt's fotofax, Preston's Worst Warships, Conways, etc.). And Ed, I got some of them after they...uh...fell off the back of a truck. Parsecboy (talk) 20:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey! I'm not alone then! Buggie111 (talk) 23:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we've all done it at least once or twice. And Buggie, nice to see you around again. Have you got any new projects in the works with the Austro-Hungarians done? Parsecboy (talk) 01:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Sevastopol, other things floating around my Userspace, Portal:Moscow and other miscellany. Buggie111 (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Newsletter column on FAC reviewing

We'd like to put a column in the Bugle encouraging people review at FAC, or at least to assist the frequent FAC reviewers. Is there anything that new reviewers could do at FAC that you would find particularly helpful? (Watching) - Dank (push to talk) 18:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there a place this is being discussed? I might be able to add a thing or two. Parsecboy (talk) 21:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm copying all the responses now to this page. I'll add a pointer at WT:MHC#Editorial on reviewing for FAC in a minute. - Dank (push to talk) 23:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

tirpitz

Well if we gona take your principle as you say,then all war ships image should change because they dont illustrate the topic. So pls let the picture like it is ,and dont change it with an american drawing sketch,because if i go and put an german ww2 drawing pictures on any ww2 british ships ,i have 0 chance. The reader need real photos,and Tirpitz deserve that ,dont put at the height of the page a drawing shit And about displesment ,again are official number ,which 2 americans site use it too: Displacement: standard 43,900 mt, full load max. 53,500 mt.(1944) both kbismarck.com and bismarck-class.com use it at speed same official numbers :30,8 knots

Talk:2010–2011 Ivorian crisis

I think it's time the merge discussion here be closed. B-Machine (talk) 14:30, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Reinhold von Werner

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Reinhold von Werner/GA1

I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Italian Moltke's battlecruisers

Hi, I've translate it:SMS Moltke, it:SMS Goeben and it:Classe Moltke. I've find the Battlecruisers of Germany series very interesting and accurate, and so I decided to translate those in my language. I only didn't get the question about the fuel consumption of the Moltke-class. Do you think there's a book that may talk about it, apart from Erich Gröner, German Warships: 1815–1945 ? --Demostene119 (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I put a lot of work into those articles. As to your question, Axel Grießmer's Die Große Kreuzer der Kaiserlichen Marine 1906–1918 (ISBN: 3763759468) may have an answer, if you can read German. As far as English-language sources go, there isn't much on these ships from the technical perspective. Parsecboy (talk) 17:33, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll try to get it, Thanks. German is difficult for me, but I can read technical books. Saluti. --Demostene119 (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:SS California (1907).JPG

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Unit cohesion

Hi. I created the article above, but maybe I haven't done a good job on it so far. Someone tried to replace it with a redirect to Teamwork and - when I reverted that - immediately nominated the article for deletion.

What's the best way to ensure this article survives this onslaught? --Uncle Ed (talk) 02:30, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Fort Sumter problem

Hi. Just wanted to flag somebody with regard to a vandalism issue with Battle of Fort Sumter. Somebody's put a phrase in the beginning of the lead that apparently cannot be edited. Will take someone with better technical knowledge than me to fix it. Thanks. Historical Perspective (talk) 13:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Someone vandalized the {{Events leading to US Civil War}} template, which was what was showing the text (and interfering with the table of contents). If there's text showing up on the page without it being visible in the editing window, it's probable that it's actually being transcluded from a template. Thanks again. Parsecboy (talk) 15:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for High Seas Fleet

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

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Congratulations

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		The WikiChevrons are hereby bestowed upon Parsecboy for their great efforts in the April 2011 Military History monthly article writing Contest, placing first with a total of 46 points from 6 articles. Well done! Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

		The Military history A-Class medal with swords
		For outstanding work on SMS Markgraf, List of armored cruisers of Germany and SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911), which were promoted to A-Class between February and April 2011, by order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the A-Class medal with Swords. AustralianRupert (talk) 12:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)