Hi, as the official language of the Kingdom of Hungary was Latin until [[1867]] [http://books.google.com/books?id=ei6TGveKcuEC&pg=PA72&dq=hungary+kingdom+latin+official+language&hl=en&ei=VhTPTZWJLZDIswb_2IjGCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CFMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=hungary%20kingdom%20latin%20official%20language&f=false], using Hungarian names for cities etc. before this date is anachronistic. Since the Latin name that was used at the time can scarcely be found, we should list all the places with their modern names. Thank You. --[[User:Bizovne|Bizovne]] ([[User talk:Bizovne|talk]]) 11:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, as the official language of the Kingdom of Hungary was Latin until [[1867]] [http://books.google.com/books?id=ei6TGveKcuEC&pg=PA72&dq=hungary+kingdom+latin+official+language&hl=en&ei=VhTPTZWJLZDIswb_2IjGCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CFMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=hungary%20kingdom%20latin%20official%20language&f=false], using Hungarian names for cities etc. before this date is anachronistic. Since the Latin name that was used at the time can scarcely be found, we should list all the places with their modern names. Thank You. --[[User:Bizovne|Bizovne]] ([[User talk:Bizovne|talk]]) 11:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
==Szerintem menj vissza az LMP klubbodba és higgadj le==
A jedlik ányosos cikk képei a magyar wikin legálisan vannak fent.
A térkép pedig 120 éves Pallas lexikonból van, amit be is bizonyítottam. Se a magyar se a világ szerzői jog törvényei nem tiltják 120 éves képek szabad közzétételét. 120 éves kép szkennelése okán (mivel nem 3D objektumról van szó csupán 2D-ről azaz térképről)pedig egyetlen weboldal sem tud jogot követelni magának. Szerintem szerzői jogról nem sokat hallottál, még csak jogi diplomád sincs tini fiú. Én itt szerkesztek különböző neveken 2006 óta, (amikor te még a wikit nem is olvastad kishaver)--[[User:Faberers|Faberers]] ([[User talk:Faberers|talk]]) 18:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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Helló! A hangok nem magyar hangok, az ő helyett is valami nagyon durva volt. A magyar hangok IPA-jelölése viszont ismert, nem most kell megpróbálni rekonstruálni valami afrikai nyelvleckének hangzó hangfelvétel alapján. :) KovacsUr19:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Names in Croatian
Hi, CoolKoon.
On the talk page of the article Zadar, you've said: "I'll finally know the Croatian names for the cities in Hungary."
You've mentioned Debrecen, Kecskemét, Székesfehérvár, Miskolc, Eger, Esztergom, Komárom, Győr, Pécs, I'll tell you names for the few cities from that list. Székesfehérvár was called "Stolni Biograd" in Croatian. Still, in modern Croatian, you'll see form in Hungarian in use (mostly without diacritics, like "Szekesfehervar"). Pécs is called "Pečuh". Name is in use in standard Croatian. Nagykanizsa (not mentioned above) is called "Velika Kaniža". Name is in use in standard Croatian, sometimes is used Hungarian form.
And, of course, Budapest is "Budimpešta". Name is in use in standard Croatian.
For the other cities, I'll provide names, as soon as I find the names. Still, it's important to note, that in modern Croatian standard language, mostly Hungarian nameforms are used for the cities in Hungary. Greetings, Kubura17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, CoolKoon-bacsi.
As I promised....
Croat minority in Hungary has also its names for the cities in Hungary. Those names are in use in the Hungarian Croat press (but not in Croatia!), that uses Croat standard language (with the exception of Gradišće/Burgenland Croats, they use their version of Croat standard). Also, some cities are there named without some adjectives in name. E.g., Magyarovar is in Croatian historiography/older sources in Croatian called "Ugarski Stari Grad", while local Croat minority from there calls that city "Stari Grad, Starograd, Starigrad" (at the same time, they call Mosony as "Možun"). Similar is with Szekesfehervar; while old Croatian sources calls it as "Stolni Biograd", local Croat minority calls it "Biograd", and appears under that name in Hungarian Croat press. Nagykanizsa is called simply "Kaniža".
Croat minority in Hungary has also its names for some other cities (names are used in their press in Hungary): Debrecen is "Debrcin, Debrecin", Kecskemét is "Kečkemerac, Kečkemit", Eger is sometimes called "Jegar", Komárom is "Komoran", Győr is "Jura, Đura, Vjura", Esztergom is "Ostrogon", Zalaegerszeg is called "Jegersak", Szeged is called "Segedin" (also in use in Croatian press), etc..
Recently, there was a scientific work from Hungarian scientist, titled "Croat names for toponyms in Hungary". Kubura07:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, CoolKoon-bacsi.
When I've said, that Albanians were more important for the history of Zadar than Hungarians, I wasn't fooling.
Maybe it sound sarcastic, but that's truth.
Beside the Albanians that came from Kosovo, W Macedonia and E Montenegro to Zadar (during times of Yugoslavia), there's an original Albanian immigrant colony, today in the city of Zadar (before 50 years it was an outer village, than a suburb of Zadar, nowadays it's a cityquarter of Zadar). That Albanian are descendants of Albanians that escaped from Ottoman terror in Albania.
That part of the city of Zadar is called Arbanasi.
Arbanasi have their special dialect, with a lot of Albanian in it.
The streets in that part are named after Albanians and Albanians-related persons like: Juraj Kastriotić, Milan Šufflay (Croatian albanologist, beaten to death by royal Yugoslav police), fra Gjergj Mishta, Illyrian queen Teuta, Ivan Petani.
In the Age of national awakenings, in 19th century, that Albanian community turned to - Croathood!
Big point about this is that Albanians are traditionally "closed" community, very hard to assimilate. But, unlike with the other world, they turned to Croats, to poorer people, not toward much richer Italian-speaking community. And at that time, Croatia wasn't independent.
Today, Arbanasi are very influential for the Zadar.
Basketball player and Josip Đerđa comes from that community.
Croatian minister of transport Božidar Kalmeta is also Arbanas.
Croatian singer Mladen Grdović also has Arbanas roots.
More famous Arbanasi are on the page hr:Arbanasi.
On the other hand, what Hungarian was important for Zadar? Kubura17:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Zadar
I'm not editing that article (I did it only twice recently [1] and [2]), I've just added some messages to the talkpage.
If someone accuses me in "not want to reach a compromise", just because I don't want to allow giving others what doesn't belong to them at all, than that accusation says something about accuser.
About Zadar: during Austria-Hungary, it was in Austrian part of the monarchy. Before that, under the rule of Napoleon, before that, under the rule of Venice (crusaders captured it for the Venice), before that, in Kingdom of Croatia-Hungary (or Hungary-Croatia, put it as you wish). But in that Kingdom, Zadar was in the part of kingdom that was ruled by Croatian ban (viceroy). So, where is direct connection with Hungary?
On the other hand, Buda and Pest were under Ottoman rule, but I don't see names in Turkish (on Wikipedia) for that, now one city. Although Buda and Pest were directly under Ottoman rule.
I mention this, to show how the rule of "rulers cityname" wasn't implied everywhere. Kubura12:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Voting
Hi, CoolKoon.
I have something for you, I think you'll be interested.
There's a voting on wikipedia Commons, regarding the map Serbia1918.
You'll be VERY interested for that voting.
Link is here [3]. Your vote'll be appretiated. Kubura11:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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(response) You're exactly right about my name. :) I was named after my maternal grandmother Ilona Pazman, though with an Americanized spelling. She was born in Croatia, though I understand that she had Hungarian heritage. I also have many other slavs in my family tree, the whole stretch of eastern Europe. My father was born in Warszawa, but was orphaned by the events of September 1939. I have never been to Hungary or Slovakia, and neither do I speak either language, but I can definitely recognize a few words here and there. :) More info about my background is at my userpage and website, if you are interested. I am especially looking for assistance in identifying some Polish paintings.[5] --Elonka05:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I read somewhere that you live in Bratislava. Can you take a picture sometime about the memorial of the victims of racism and Daniel Tupy? If my sources are right, its on the Tyršovo embankment. It looks like this, (but in technicolor I guess): [6]. Thanks. --Rembaoud (talk) 14:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. But I don't want talk about this whole issue anymore in public. I can tell you the whole story from my POV, but only in private. CoolKoon (talk) 17:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please send me an email: elonka@aol.com . And please try to keep all your comments here in English from now on, thanks. --Elonka17:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! Unfortunately I'm not sure whether I can accept this award, since I'm not a "genuine" Hungarian (just a "Cseszkó" or what do they call us in Hungary). I've lived for a few years in Budapest though (even attended an elementary school there):D CoolKoon (talk) 14:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Please tell me how to remove the image instead since I've reuploaded it to the Commons with some description as well so this one is not needed anymore CoolKoon (talk) 20:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
as a countable noun, a group of humans, either with unspecified traits, or specific characteristics (e.g. the people of Spain or the people of the Plains).
Please, look up what countable noun stands for. Peoples is used to describe several whole nations. For example Hungarian and Slovak peoples. And it's definitely not found in literature exclusively. wlad18:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Boze, este raz: peoples je nespravne, pokial to myslis ako niekolko ludi. Na druhej strane niekolko narodov, to sa uz oznacuje peoples uplne bezne. Ak si vsimnes, aj sam velky oxford to pouziva (je jedno, pri akom hesle). A ano, si presvedceny o blbosti, a tou blbostou je, ze peoples sa nikdy, za ziadnych okolnosti, nepouziva. To nie je pravda. Tu to mas aj lopatisticky.
". When people means “the entire body of persons who constitute a community or other group by virtue of a common culture, history, etc.,” it is used as a singular, with the plural peoples: This people shares characteristics with certain inhabitants of central Asia. The aboriginal peoples of the Western Hemisphere speak many different languages"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peoples - usage notes uuuplne dole.
A este footnote - ucitelia anglictiny su argument dobry tak na basic English a od native-speakrov sa neoplati tahat gramaticke rozumy, kedze presne gramaticke pravidla vacsinou nepoznaju, len su na nieco zvyknuti.
wlad22:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your work there at this article. the missus is Hungarian and we are slowly but properly editing some geo and bio and history Hungarian articles, but it is slow to do it properly, so I very much appreciate your efforts. There is so much the danger of POV also, and this must be kept NPOV. I know how hard a task this can be (I am just the back room boy who does the templates and scaffolding etc) so I very much appreciate it. Si Trew (talk) 01:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your appreciation, it's quite nice to see people appreciating my work (besides the Hungarians of course). Yet I'm pretty sure that most (if not all) Slovak editors will reprimand me for inserting more "anti-Slovak" material, giving the article an even more "anti-Slovak impression" and POV. I've read parts of the discussion regarding the article (I haven't had the time and patience for the whole of it) and even though the Slovak editors had a point, the majority of the discussion is centered around the fact that they view the article as "a private action of several Hungarian editors". But once again thanks for the appreciation, compliments to the missus and just drop me a line if you need some help with Hungarian-related articles ;) CoolKoon (talk) 23:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't need any help as such right now, though thanks for the offer (and I hope it stays open). But I'd appreciate your advice about what we are tackling at the moment, which is the battles of the Hungarian Revolution of 1848.
Neither of us are military historians, though I worked for (not in) the military for about ten years so have a reasonable knowledge of specialist terms etc. Anyway, our strategy for tackling it is "bottom up": take the battles first and translate from Hungarian WP, adding bits and pieces such as infoboxes etc etc, and sometimes translating bio articles along the way (e.g. Mór Perczel, Ferenc Ottinger), and gleaning as much as we can from e.g. German or Polish WP (neither of us speaks these languages but we can grab stuff from infoboxes etc). Once we have the battles done, we will group into e.g. Winter Campaign which has its own article on HU:WP. Then, finally, we will go to the main article Hungarian Revolution of 1848 and retrofit information into there, and do {{main}} etc. This bottom-up approach seems sensible here since the main article is well established and any changes into it will no doubt create a fight, whereas if we start with the subsidiary articles we have more of a chance of adding useful content, we think. We should appreciate your views, though.
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The sourcing is suspect, and most of the content utterly irrelevant to an article on international relations. The article is deeply biased, as almost everyone was quick to note at the AfD. It is written in poor English, and uses weasel terms and peacock terms like there's no tomorrow. The edit war that ensued unprompted seems to show there is support for the new version. You should have taken your opposition to talk, rather than flooding the page with edits in an abortive attempt to obsolete the new version. I simply don't believe you fail to see the bias inherent in the previous article - you chose to push it since it coincides with yours. Your diatribe on my talk is about as related to the dispute as your article is to the international relations between Hungary and Slovakia, and for future reference I am not Slovak and have no biases towards the region. —what a crazy random happenstance07:56, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have absolutely zero Slovak ancestry. And even if I did, I doubt it would make me any more or less nationalist - we do things differently in the New World. Whilst our ancestors are killing one another in the Old World, we share a beer over here. An encyclopaedia wouldn't have two pages that are unrelated to the subject matter. I did in fact reword much of what I left behind, and what I removed was - wait for it - utterly unrelated. Most of those incidents belong on a different page, they have nothing to do with the international relations between Hungary and Slovakia. In the most common paradigm of international relations - realism - most of those incidents simply don't exist. The majority of international political scientists would consider that article to have no value whatsoever, since interpersonal conflicts are widely thought by Realists to have no bearing on international relations. I do not mean this as an offence - but you seem to have no knowledge of the scientific field of international relations, a science with very clear rules and boundaries, and your version of the article reflects your lack of knowledge very clearly. —what a crazy random happenstance10:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
HUN SVK
To je jednoduche. Nebolo to zrazu, to, ze ten clanok potrebuje serious reworking som tvrdil od zaciatku. Takisto som bol velmi dlho a razantne proti mnozstvu slotovych citatov a sposobom akym su uvedene. Happenstance spravil to, co som chcel aj ja, ale nemal som na to cas ani chut. Nehladaj v tom ziadne nacionalisticke pozadie, ja si fakt myslim, ze ten clanok nebol wikipedie hodny. Citovat media v takom mnozstve je kontraproduktivne, navyse k temam, ktore maju vlastne clanky.
Co vam vadi najviac je, ze sa stratili referencie, ale tie su vo vacsine pripadov v tych hlavnych clankoch, tu ide len o to, ze sa skratil obsah, aby bol prehladny. Naco su litanie o historii, ked je hore wikilink? To iste o Solyomovi. Preco robite zo Slotovych vyrokov centralnu cast vztahov? Zalozte mu vlastny clanok a tam ho vystavte na hanbu, ale nervite to do clanku, kde sa to nehodi.
All in all, happenstance dal tomu clanku konecne serioznu formu. Nezabudaj, ze wikipedia je hlavne encyklopedia, a ta popisuje veci heslovite. Dobre sa to cita, vsetko info zostalo zachovane, ja skor nechapem, preco z toho robite taky problem. Posobi to na mna tak, ze potrebujete v clankoch presviedcat o svojej pravde a na ich kvalite vam vobec nezalezi. Wladthemlat (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A prosim, este mi vysvetli, co robia litanie o Malinovej v clanku o medzistatnych vztahoch. Nemal by som nic proti, keby sa aspon v jednej verzii spominala nejaka oficialna reakcia madarskej strany, ale kde nic tu nic.
Ten DAC je ... well... ok, mozno by tam mohol byt, ale podstatne kratsie, nie je to stezejni cast vztahov, je to len v podstate len anekdota. To tam mozme capat aj veci ako to, ze slovensku paralmentnu delegaciu nechali cakat na chodbe hodinu a ich to poburilo a clanok bude mat kilometer. Popri tom medzistatne zmluvy, visegrad, unia, spolupraca po oficialnej linke atd. tam vobec nie su. Su aj dolezitejsie veci ako to, co sa denne pise v mediach.
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The Family section begins with the words:"The Hunyadi family are a HUNGARIAN[7] noble family ", why do you think it is necessary to repeat that other 2 times: "Lonnie Johnson thinks he was a member of the lesser Hungarian nobility of Transylvania[16] while David W. Haines refers to him as a Hungarian nobleman" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daccono (talk • contribs) 07:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to read the text again. The first sentence's discussing the Hunyadi family IN GENERAL, while the passages you've removed deal with the nationality of John Hunyadi itself. This is why I don't think that removing the text you've quoted is a good idea. CoolKoon (talk) 17:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As you suggested I read the text again and I think that the changes operated by represent a very good idea for the clarity and the quality of the article. The only thing that I've done is that I eliminated the tautology from the text based on the very simple logic that if is already documented that Hunyadi family is a Hungarian noble family by consequence John Hunyadi is a Hungarian noble. --Daccono (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, forgot to say that the p.133 bit mentions the Sultans cannons and his Christian gunners, so obviously there is a discrepancy here somewhere Chaosdruid (talk) 18:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, in the books you've given also mention the use of "war wagons" and "other war-machines", which were loaded with guns. So even though I'm not sure about the exact nature of the gunpowder units, it DOES seem to be likely that Hunyadi has heavily relied on gunpowder units nonetheless. This is not to say that the Turks didn't use them as well, but that isn't the point either I guess. CoolKoon (talk) 18:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Matthias Corvinus
The link refers to place of origin (the link is to Wallachia), not to ethnicity. As FAkirbakir put it: You are not right, He was probably from Wallachia this is a place and it does not explain his origin, and we do not know whether he was Vlach, Cuman, Serb etc. Origin and the place where from he was originated are different things. Fakirbakir (talk) 09:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC) (Iaaasi (talk) 19:26, 11 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]
What are you talking about?! The citation you've removed doesn't say anything about places! It's entirely about names, e.g. "the name of Janos Hunyadi's father, Vayk was of Tatar-Cuman origin." You've probably mistaken this quote for something else, but still, this one's there to stay. CoolKoon (talk) 10:39, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are more theories about the ethnic origin (Vlach, Cuman, Tatar, Slavic), but these aspects are presented in an entire section in the article about John Hunyadi. We must not overload also the article about Matthias Corvinus with this. According to Britannica: "János was of Walachian (a region now in Romania) ancestry.". We know for sure that his region of origin is WAllachia and he was probably Vlach, but he could also have Cuman. Tatar, Slavic ancestry (Iaaasi (talk) 10:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]
So what if those aspects are presented in the John Hunyadi article? It's no more than a brief mention in the Matthias Corvinus article. Yet you seem to disregard academic sources and intend to leave out any other source that doesn't conform with your "official" view of Hunyadi (even academic ones), that is anything that doesn't fit your agenda. I don't think the Wikipedia is the right place for that. CoolKoon (talk) 20:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I shall warn you that you should stop removing referenced material. Second the nature of the topic doesn't constitute a separate article of its own. Third, Czechoslovakia has ceased to exist in 1993. Fourth, the section you've removed is part of the history of the relations of Slovaks and Hungarians. Fifth, IIRC the article was called "Hungarian-Slovak relations", but later it was renamed. Sixth, it's just as illogical to remove the Czechoslovak part as it is to remove the "Benes decrees" part, which's also related to Czechoslovakia, isn't it? Still, I have a feeling that you can't be persuaded by logic arguments, so I doubt that there's any point in arguing with you any further. CoolKoon (talk) 16:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously you still don't get it. My section is about the relation between the Hungarians who found themselves in Czechoslovakia, not the Hungarians in Hungary. I think I'll consider creating a proposal for renaming the article. CoolKoon (talk) 16:54, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your Support, help me (OliverTwist88) to get unblocked
I've been promised by HelloAnnoying to be unblocked after she realized that I wasn't a sockpuppet from Hungary. I started two articles Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_army_of_hungary and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Magyars. The first article came out to perfection, the 'Golden Team' article was 90% completed until Coopuk and Iaaasi managed to put out an SPI investigation on me and have me blocked. They seemed to have completely taken control of the article and reduced its contents by 70%, three charts were deleted. They even went as far as renaming the article to the UK-known "Magical Magyars".
I don't wish to see my article that I spend 5 1/2 years of research and writing be substantially reduced like this to satisfy two unscrupulous users. What can I do to have my account re-activated and reinstated as OliverTwist? Put in a good word for me with HelloAnnoying will you, to have her see it from my perspective. Share you thoughts at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:OliverTwist88. Thanks again for your support.
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Ahoj
Dakujem za mily odkaz, ale budem Ta musiet poopravit. Mojim cielom ani v najmensom nie je presadzovat slovenske myty, ktorymi si tak posadnuty a pripisujes ich vyznavanie kazdemu, kto s Tebou nesuhlasi. Tvoja obsesia najst co najviac zdrojov o tom, ako slovaci madarov utlacali je ovela symptomatickejsia.
Vravim to uplne uprimne - nie je mojim cielom nic zakryvat, ide mi len a len o logicku strukturu toho clanku. Par soch si nezasluhuje tak vela priestoru, preco sa radsej nezameriame na vymenu obyvatelstva, na dekrety, na moderne medzistatne zmluvy a vyvoj vztahov od 1993? (Ale aj trosku vedecky, nie len nazhrnat medialne utrzky o kazdej hluposti, ktoru Slota vypusti napr.). Slovaci nie su len nacionalisti, skus to konecne pochopit, a ani vztahy medzi MR a SR nie su determinovane len a len slovenskym nacionalizmom, ako sa to snazis vykreslovat. Jednak je ten nacionalizmus aj na madarskej strane, ale hlavne je hrba inych veci(V4 aktivity, battlegroups atd.) ktore tam spomenute nie su, su dolezitejsie ako nejaky ozran alebo sochy a hlavne prebiehaju na standardnej urovni a standardnym sposobom.
SKus sa pozriet na svoje editovanie, si posadnuty tym dokazat, ze od rozpadu Uhorska madarov slovaci utlacali, v com je to ine ako vyplakavanie o 1000-rocnom utlaku? Preco rozoberat detailne minulost v clanku, v ktorom ma byt len informativne zhrnuta a hlavna pozornost venovana uplne inym veciam? Chces mi fakt tvrdit, ze udalosti z jedneho tyzdna po rozpoade Uhorska je nutne rozoberat na styri odstavce?!
A este k tym zdrojom - je mi luto, ale Angyal nie je historik a ten "institut" nie je established vedecka ani vzdelavacia institucia, jednoducho nesplna kriteria reliable source. Ak si si nevsimol, nasiel som nahradnu source, takze mi nejde o mazanie informacii, len o spolahlivost zdroja. Wladthemlat (talk) 08:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Forum institut nie je spolahlivy zdroj, tam sa nemame o com bavit. Ze cituje, ze ich podporuje ministerstvo kultury atd., to je irelevantne. Kedze nie su renomovana institucia a este aj davaju priestor vydavat knihy amaterskym historikom, nie su doveryhodni. A spravne, knihy z MS by tiez neboli spolahlive, pretoze je predpoklad, ze budu zaujate. ALe to iste plati opat aj o Forum institute, takze preto som to nahradil anglickymi zdrojmi.
Mam v plane pridat tam vela veci, ale tiez nemam cas. Ale to neznamena, ze necham ten clanok rast zbytocnym materialom do astronomickej velkosti, tiez trosku zvazuj kolko a coho pridas. Styri odstavce o jednom tyzdni ci mesiaci v dejinach RCS je proste moc. Wladthemlat (talk) 11:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ja viem, ze mazat je jednoduchsie, ani na to nie som hrdy, ale kopec casu stracame zabomysimi vojnami a potom sa straca focus na obsah. Druha vec je, ze sa mi uz niekolkokrat stalo, ze som sa snazil pridavat a bol som mazany, aj ked nie v pripade tohto konkretneho clanku. Ale ani pridavanie pre pridavanie nema zmysel.
Ak by to bol dolozeny odbornik tak by sa to asi dalo prehltnut, ale Angyal je historik-amater, takze ten zdroj je nedoveryhodny. Ale tym padom aj institucia ako taka, kedze dava priestor na taketo knihy v podstate len kvoli tomu, ze sa zaoberaju danou temou, ergo da sa cakat ze bude zaujata. Tam ide hlavne o to, ze keby bolo meno nezname, ale vydane v renomovanej institucii, dalo by sa brat s prizmuerenim oka ako reliable source. Ale ked je institucia obskurna a este aj autor nie je odbornik, uz nie je o com diskutovat.
Clanok som ti navrhol na talku v clanku, ked to chces brat takto detailne tak zaloz Hungarians in inter-war czechoslovakia alebo nieco podobne, aj ked tento specificky obsah by som asi dal do niecoho ako Minorities in Czechoslovakia in 1918-1920 alebo na ten styl, proste specifickejsie.
Skusme sa dopracovat k nejakej kratsej verzii tvojho obsahu a dohodnime sa na temach, ktore treba zahrnut a na tych pracovat, takto sa budeme revertovat do smrti. AKo som uz vravel, dekrety, vymena obyvatelstva, nieco o slovakoch v Uhorsku (z rychlika) a potom hlavne moderne zmluvy a kooperacia je moj navrh. Pojde to pomaly, ale mozeme to dat dokopy. Wladthemlat (talk) 13:31, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tak dobre. Spravil som ti OBROVSKE gesto, takze mas sancu sa predviest. Uvidime, co s tym pocnes. Vacsinu skorych dejin CS presuniem do novovytvoreneho clanku "Ethnic tensions in Czechoslovakia", co je dufam, ze dost specificke.
Suvisle s tym mozme skratit obsah casti "history" na "HU-SK relations", pridat nieco z cias Monarchie a sustredit sa na obdobie po 1993. Uvidime, co sa stane potom....
Mimochodom neviem,, ci to usilie v clanku Győr v spolupraci s psychopatom menom User:Bizovne nie trosku marne. Totiz napriek tomu, ze tam chodi nakupovat polka Bratislavy (ci dokonca uz cela) a v takom Arkade cez vykend nepocut nic ine, len slovencinu, este ziadneho Slovaka som nepocul povedat "Ráb", vzdy len "Dér" resp. "Ďőr" (aj ked to druhe zvykli hovorit najma Madari). Ale to len tak na okraj.... CoolKoon (talk) 21:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mespravil si mi ziadne gesto, jednoducho sa prisposobujes konsenzu, ak si si vsimol, nie som to len ja, komu ten obsah prekaza. S dalsim postupom suhlasim, dufam, ze sa budeme vediet dohodnut a nie len si len prepytujem prieky robit. Wladthemlat (talk) 09:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vysvetluj si to ako chces, poznamky nezainteresovanych editorov (napr. Adrian yu a pod.) ma az tak netrapia. Ale este raz, uvidime, ci ten obsah tebe (a ostatnym) tam naozaj prekazalo len z "technickych" dovodov. Ja z mojej strany som uz viackrat zdoraznil, ze mi nejde o "prieky", ale o kvalitu clankov s tym, aby z toho bolo tych objektivnych a pravdivych informacii co najviac. Poviem ti priklad: nedavno boli dni Bratislavy a teda vstup do vsetkych muzei bol zadarmo. Mali sme tu aj navstevnikov z Madarska, ktorym sme poukazovali muzea a historicke budovy (teda len tie, ktore tu po vycinani komunistov zostali). Lenze boli tam aj ini. Napriklad v Primacialnom palaci stal pred obrazom Marie Terezie taky muz s dcerou. Vedla bol Jozef II. Tak ten muz to vysvetloval svojej dcere: tuto je Maria Terezia, vedla je zase jej brat (SYN!!!). Alebo dalsi: sprievodca (!) vysvetloval davu, ze tie gobeliny, ktore tam su, su jedinecne v tom, ze na Slovensku existuje posledna uplna seria. Potom povedal, ze nasli sa pocas restauracii a "nikto nevie, ako sa tam dostali" (co zase nie je pravda, lebo boli vyrobene pre kardinala Mazarina a neskor -pocas tureckych najazdov- si to kupil ostrihomsky arcibiskup, ktory vtedy sidlil v Presporku a zamurovane boli, ked Napoleon zautocil na Presporok, aby jeho vojska si to nezobrali). Pointa teda je, ze v slovenskych hlavach ohladom svojich dejin byva strasna temnota. Nepoznaju svoje dejiny, lebo nikto im to nepovie a to vzduchoprazdno sa potom velmi lahko naplni vselijakymi mytami o vymyslenych dejinach. Lenze este stale pochybujem o tom, ze ci skutocne mas zaujem o to, aby tie myty boli vyvratene a nahradene faktami. Tvoje ciny na EN WP to bohuzial vacsinou nepotrvdzuju. -- CoolKoon (talk) 10:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Some VERY ugly conversation in Slovak. Do not, I repeat DO NOT attempt to read or translate it if you find text in Slovak offensive or shocking. I warned you!
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
CooolKoon, poviem ti to takto. Slovaci, Poliaci, Cesi, Srbi, Rusi, Ukrajinci, Chorvati a ostatne narody su Slovania. Su to bratia. Maju podobne jazyky. Spaja ich slovanska vzajomnost. Ale koho bratia su Madari? S ktorym narodom v Europe sa vedia dohovorit? Kam patria obklopeny germanskymi, slovanskymi statmi a Rumunskom? Precitaj si knihy Sandora Maraia o tom ako citi ze jeho madarsky narod je opusteny. Preto uloha Madarov v Karpatskej kotline je asimilovat sa, zabudnut na svoj jazyk a statnost a Madarsko rozdelit medzi okolite krajiny. Bud rad ze vies po slovensky mozes byt Slovak.
CoolKoon citaj toto a pravda ta oslobodi
Prof. L. L. Cavalli - Sforza zo Standard University v USA, keď študoval otázku sťahovania národov a ich jazyky v závere svojho výskumu konštatoval, že obyvateľstvo Maďarska je v Európe anomáliou. Používa jazyk dobyvateľov z Ázie, ale obyvateľstvo Maďarska nie je etnicky maďarské - ono je prevažne slovanské, definitívne európske. Prof. Cavalli - Sforza spolu so svojimi spolupracovníkmi potvrdzuje spomínanú anomáliu genetickým výskumom krvi, publikovaným v Scientific American vyd. v novembri 1991. Podľa tohto výskumu gén, o ktorý sa dlhoročný výskum ľudí a jazykov všetkých kontinentov prof. Cavalli - Sforza opieral je Rh - negatívny faktor v krvi. Tento sa v Afrike, Ázii a u amerických Indiánov vôbec nevyskytuje. Je však typický pre Európanov. V prípade Maďarov profesor Cavalli - Sforza vyvodzuje, že pôvodní aziatski dobyvatelia nanútili svoj jazyk podmanenej väčšine a ťažko možno dokázať čo i len zvyšky ázijsko - maďarských génov v dnešnom obyvateľstve Maďarska. Podľa profesora je obyvateľstvo úplne vymenené. Preto dnes , kto hovorí o "maďarstve" z etnického hľadiska iba fantazíruje. Väčšina Maďarov to vie, ale sa bojí o tom hovoriť, čo samozrejme spôsobuje u nich vnútorné napätie, konfúziu, extrémizmus a môže byť jednou z príčin vysokého percenta samovrážd maďarského obyvateľstva. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.75.114 (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL To je neskutocne.........teda TY si neskutocny. To bratstvo plati viacmenej len v tom zmysle, ze maju podobny jazyk. Ale kludne sa spytaj Srba, co si mysli o svojich Chorvatskych "bratoch" (ktorym dokonca aj rozumie). Alebo sa spytaj Bulhara, co si mysli o Macedonoch (ti maju vraj tiaz len dialektove rozdiely v jazyku). Som si isty, ze budes naozaj prekvapeny. Alebo aby som to mal blizsie, spytaj sa Poliakov, co si myslia o "Ruskom bratovi". Ti ti potom ukazu, odkial pokial s panslavizmom.
Z pohladu samotnej podporovanosti Madarov nie je take dolezite, ze Madari su obklopeni Slovanmi, Rumunmi a Nemcami. Totiz Madari maju aj svojich spojencov, aki su Poliaci ("Polak Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli i do szklanki" - hod si to do guglu) a vacsinou aj Nemci. Co maju zase Slovaci? Velke h0vn0 resp. Cechov. Cele Madarsko by si zrejme najradsej poslal do kelu, Srbi su bezvyznamni a Rusi maju ovela menej uslachtile zamery. A to je uplne jedno, ze Madari maju problemy dohovorit sa s Poliakmi a Nemcami, totiz ani zdaleka to nie je len o tom. Lenze darmo to budem vysvetlovat zadebnenemu nacionalistovi ako ty. Po slovensky viem najma z nutnosti (v BA sa clovek inym jazykom totiz ani nedohovori) a tiez mi to zide pri citani ceskej literatury/pozerani ceskych filmov. Pri citani/pocuvani prejavov tvojich idolov typu Slopta, Hranol a spol. si ale obcas zelam, aby som im vobec nerozumel, ale asi aj vtedy by som citil, ze salaju zo seba hnus.
Co sa tyka toho textu, co si mi sem hodil, musim ta sklamat. Madarska tlac (na rozdiel od tej slovenskej) pravidelne informuje o vedeckych vyskumoch, ktore sa uskutocnuju nielen v zahranici, ale aj doma. Prave preto sa moze clovek v madarskej tlaci docitat o daleko vacsom mnozstve vedeckych vyskumoch, ako v tej slovenskej. A prave preto je faktom, ze bud tento vyskum, alebo nejaky podobny odznel aj v madarskej tlaci (viem, ze odznel, lebo som o tom niekedy cital). A co s tym spravil tvoj idol Slopta? Precital to (resp. dal to niekomu precitat nahlas, lebo pochybujem o to, ze vie citat....) a interpretoval to ako dokaz, ze to bola staroslovenska krv, ktora scivilizovala Madarov. Pritom to ma tak daleko od pravdy, ako tvrdenie, ze hejslovaci maju kriticke myslenie. Takze polopaticky ti to vysvetlim este raz: to, ze niekto je resp. citi sa byt Madarom, nie je vobec o genoch. Je to vylucne o tom, ako to dotycna osoba citi. Presne ako v Amerike. Alebo chcel by si dokazovat aj "neopravnenost" pouzivania vyrazu "American" tiez?
Na druhej strane nie som si isty, ci viest s tebou debatu ma vobec nejaky zmysel. Mozno keby som bol psychiatrom...... CoolKoon (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vies, Nemcov by som nespominal, pomohli vam v obdobi tretej rise, takze chvalit sa podporou Adolfa Hitlara - to by som nerobil, CoolKoon. Vies, Trianon je spravodliva vec ale malo spravodliva. Pre Madarov sa mala nechat len Budapest a 20 km pasmo okolo. Zvysok rozdelit medzi Slovensko, Srbsko, Rumunsko a Rakusko. Madarski profesori pisu ze v Madaroch niet staromadarskej krvi, tak preco potom Slovania (psuedomadari) rozpravaju po madarsky?? To nema logiku. Madarsko si za svoj utlak zasluzi zanik. Pises o Hedvige Malinovej ale zabudas na toto:
Apponyiho drastické maďarizačné zákony z roku 1907 neboli tým najhorším príkladom „starostlivosti" monarchie o nemaďarské národy. Koncom 19. storočia sa odohrávali v Uhorsku oveľa väčšie zverstvá. V roku 1887 sa na príkaz Budapešti začali deportácie slovenských detí do Maďarska, proti vôli ich rodičov, ktoré trvali až do roku 1892. Cieľom týchto akcií bola morbídna výroba štatistických Maďarov. Po roku 1918, po rozpade Rakúsko-Uhorska bolo evidovaných až 60 000 takýchto násilne odvlečených a pomaďarčených slovenských detí.
Madari su medzi Slovanmi a Germanmi cudzim elementom, azijsky kmen s recou, ktorej nikto iny v Europe nerozumie. Preto aj ty, pomadarceny Slovan si horsi ako keby si bol Madar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.75.114 (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tak teraz je to uz nabeton jasne: ty si sialeny a patris do blazinca. Teda dufam, ze uz ta tam liecia, ale si tam este kratko a liecba teda este nezabera. Totiz tieto veci, ktore si sem napisal, moze napisat jedine cisty blazon. Ironicky ale extremni nacionalisti tvojho rangu maju az chronicky malo rozumu na to, aby rozmyslali predtym, nez sem tresnu svoje trepoty.
Zacnem teda tym "malo spravodlivym" Trianonom. Keby Madarom bol ostal 20 km pasik okolo Budapesti, Slovensko by dnes urcite neexistovalo. Predpokladam, ze ani Srbsko a Rumunsko. Vies, preco? Lebo Madari by boli tvorili vacsinu v kazdom naslednickom state. Potom by samozrejme bola zacala silna madarizacia vo vsetkych statoch a potom, co sa vsetky boli zmenili na madarske, by sa boli zase zlucili. A to by sme tu mali teraz druhe (mozno aj vacsie) Uhorsko, kde by bolo tych mensin podstatne menej....
Len pre tvoju informaciu: slovo "maďarón" si vymysleli Cesi. A vies, na koho to pouzivali? Samozrejme na Slovakov. Totiz ich "cudny prizvuk/dialekt" si vysvetlovali tym, ze su to vlastne pomadarceni Slovania, ktori nehovoria spravne po cesky len kvoli pomadarcenosti. Takze kto je pomadarceny Slovan? Zeby skor ty? A mimochodom moje meno je pravdepodobne nemeckeho povodu, takze skor som pomadarceny Nemec (tusim tretej ci stvrtej generacie). Ale ja si na rozdiel od poslovencenych Madarov nerobim starosti z toho, aby som sa naucil jazyk mojich predkov.
Vies, na rozdiel od Slovakov pre Madarov je dobry vztah s krajinami ako Nemecko a Polsko obojstranne. Horthyovo Madarsko napriklad pomohlo mnohym Poliakom utiect z Polska na zaciatku 2. sv. vojny, ked ho Hitler so Stalinom obsadili s pomocou Slovenska. Na strane Nemcov ale Madari nielen vydrzali pocas obidvoch svetovych vojen, ale pomahali aj vychodnym Nemcom pri pokusu o utek do Rakuska (samozrejme neskor vyslo najavo, ze cin bol v podstate len symbolicky, ale napriek tomu to pomohlo pri vztahoch). Slovaci ale nikomu nechcu pomahat, ani svojim vlastnym. Totiz sialenci ako ty sa stale obuvaju do Madarska a jeho mensinoveho zakona, ale kvoli Monarchii existuje pocetna slovenska mensina nielen v Madarsku, ale aj v Rumunsku a Srbsku. O tych sa vsak clovek z dennnej tlace alebo z ust politikov nikdy nedozvie/nepocuje/nedocita, lebo slovenski demagogovia (a la Fico, Slopta, Meciar a i.) pokladaju za nezaujimave, s ktorymi nema zmysel zaoberat sa. Takze namiesto nadavania na Madarov by si kludne mohol spytat tvojich idolov, ze co je so "slovenskymi bratmi" v Sedmohradsku a Vojvodine. Samozrejme je skoro nabeton iste, ze ti neodpovedia, ale za pokus to stoji.
Neviem, odkial si nabral tuto hovadinu o "nasilnom vystahovani" slovenskych deti, ale som si isty, ze doveryhodny zdroj to nebol. Zrejme to mas z knih typu "Madarske (seba)klamy" a/alebo z casopisov typu Extra Plus resp. portalov typu beo.sk. Ale je to jedno, lebo rukolapny dokaz o tom nema ani jeden z nich, totiz take nieco ani neexistuje.
To tvoje tliachanie o krvi a jazyku, ktoremu nikto iny nerozumie vobec nie je podstatne. Totiz puta nemusia existovat len na zaklade krvi alebo (spolocneho) jazyka. A vobec, ani jedno, ani druhe nie je zarukou na nic. Totiz vystiznym protiargumentom na ten prvy pripad je fakt, ze napriek tomu, ze Slovaci a Madari maju spolocne geny aj spolocne dejiny, Slovaci Madarov resp. madarcinu nenavidia z celeho srdca. Protipriklad pre ten druhy priklad (o spolocnom jazyku resp. podobnosti jazykov) je (de fact obcianska) vojna v Jugoslavii. Tam fakticky zo dna na den sa zacali vrazdit ludia, ktori maju skoro spolocny jazyk a ktori booli predtym susedia, ktori zili vedla seba v mieri. Alebo "finty", ktore vyviedli Rusi proti ich "slovanskym bratom" v Polsku.
Zase sa chvalis spolupracou Madarska s fasistickym Nemeckom - to je ale hanba. To s transportom slovenskych deti do Madarska je historicky fakt, je jasne ze to odmietas vidiet lebo to kazi Tvoj pohlad o dokonalych Madarov. Madarcina je dost zaostala, nesuroda a skareda rec - znie ako brechot psa. Zato lubozvucna slovencina je klenot medzi slovanskymi jazykmi. Darmo prskas a penis, nech zije vseslovanska vzajomnost - bratstvo medzi Srbmi, Slovakmi, Cechmi, Poliakmi, Rusmi a dalej. Madari nemaju nikoho, nepatria k ziadnej skupine narodov, zabludily kmen Aziatov, ktory uz zanikol - ostala len ich spinava rec. Ani ty nie si Madar - si len pomadarceny. Je mi jasne ze ako tvoj idol Orban sa pri iredente nezastavite pred nicim, ani pred vojnou - ta by ale znamenala zanik Madarska kedze aliancia Slovakov, Rumov a Srbov s podporou Cervenej armady by zmietla madarsku iredentu. A tvoje rozpravky o pomoci Poliakom Madarmi je skoda komentovat...ake mnozstvo to bolo, ked Madarsko a Polsko nemaju spolocnu hranicu - je to len Tvoj sen.
Nech zije Trianon, navzdy Trianon, nech ziju slovanske narody, nech zije spojenectvo Rumunska, Slovenska a Srbska proti madarskej fasistickej iredente!!!
Ty si skutocny psychopat. Asi si si vsimol, ze som ta udal na ANI a ocividne to s tebou vyzera zle aj co sa tyka IP adresy. Teraz ti poviem aj dovod udania: sialenost je jedna vec, Trianon mozem jebat, ale zvysne veci, co si sem napisal, su urazlive pre kazdeho Madara, kto si toto pozrie (a rozumie tomuto textu). Akoze co si myslis, kde si? V samotke? Alebo v krcme? Tak musim ta sklamat, lebo nie si ani v jednom. Si na jednom z najvyhladvanejsich portalov na celom internete, kde sa ocakava od cloveka, aby si zachoval chladnu hlavu a vyjadroval sa kulturovanym sposobom. Neviem, ci k tvojej nekulturnosti viedlo tvoje nedostatocne vzdelanie, alkoholizmus, alebo neustale pocuvanie Sloptovych dristov, kazdopadne ale odpusti si tento styl a ton, lebo nie som jediny, kto tvojmu textu rozumie a bezbrehe urazanie Madarov ti tu nemusi prejst tak ako v tvojej rodnej hornej-dolnej na vychode (resp. skoro na celom Slovensku).
Neviem, cim je sposobene tvoje bluznenie o vojne vyvolanej Orbanom, ale asi je na mieste zvysenie tvojej dennej davky antipsychotik. Na Cervenu armadu mozes zabudnut tiez, totiz ta uz davno neexistuje, soudruhu majore. O polsko-madarskej spolupraci si zase vyhladaj vyznam vety "Polak, Węgier, dva bratanky, i do szabli, i do szklanki" a potom sa mozno zobudis a zistis, ze doteraz sa ti to cele len snivalo. O tej mnozstve len tolko, ze bolo to vtedy, ked Madarsko tesne pred zaciatkom 2. sv. vojny obsadilo Podkarpatsku Rus (cize vtedy, ked tvojich rodicov zacali zase vesat za to, ze nevedeli katolicky otcenas po madarsky). Cirou nahodou teda Madarsko zase malo (tak, ako pocas tisic rokov predtym) spolocnu hranicu s Polskom. A tak Horthy pomohol utiect minimalne desiatkom tisic Poliakom (ba aj viac). Co robilo Slovensko? Necinne sa prizeralo, ako svojich "slovanskych bratov" zmasakruju Nemci a (druhi slovanski bratia) Rusi resp. este sa k nim aj pridalo (na cele s Tisom). Vacsia katastrofa of toho bola uz len uplne zdivocenie celeho Slovenska tvojim vysnivanymi slovenskymi sudruhmi (skody, ktore napachali, sa nepodarilo odstranit dodnes ani v Bratislave, nie to este vo zvysku krajiny). CoolKoon (talk) 23:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ja sa zapojim len kratko, vsimol som si ten odkaz na "Polak Wegier dwa bratanki" a chcem len pripomenut, ze to sa tyka ako Madarov tak aj Slovakov, pochybujem totiz, ze je rec o Madarsku a nie Uhorsku. Wladthemlat (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Asi ta sklamem: po polsky sa Madari volaju "Węgry" a Madarsko (ale aj Uhorsko) "Węgria". Ono je to totiz (podobne, ako to byvalo asi aj v cestine) odvodene od slova "uhlie", co je po polsky "węgla". Mam teda pocit, ze "Uhersko" bol "starocesky" nazov pre Madarsko a "Uhři" bol zrejme stary nazov Madarov. Lenze kym pouzivanie toho druheho slova zaniklo (a povodny vyznam prveho slova sa stratil tiez), to druhe sa dodnes pouziva ako vyraz pre "predtrianonske Madarsko", co napokon prebrali aj Slovaci. No a taketo vysvetlenie povodu slova "Uhorsko" je daleko logickejsie ako niektore slovenske bajky (na vobec Matica Slovenska nejake vysvetlenie pre povod tohoto slova?). CoolKoon (talk) 11:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ved o to ide, ked povies v anglictine Hungarian a rec je o casoch pred 1918 tak hovoris o Slovakoch rovnako ako o Madaroch ci Rusinoch, a to iste je aj v Polstine. A kedze to prislovie vzniklo davno pred 1918, tak je v nom celkom urcite rec o obcanoch multietnickej politickej entity a nie o Madaroch ako modernom narode, kedze ten v tom case neexistoval (ako akykolvek iny). Wladthemlat (talk) 14:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CoolKoon, spomen si na Malu dohodu, je to vojenske zoskupenie Rumunska, Srbska a Slovenska proti Madarskemu fasizmu. Myslim ze je cas na jeho obnovu. Ja chapem ze tvoj idol - fasisticka strana Jobik chce dosiahnut zmenu hranic a ze to chces aj ty,hociaj cestou vojny ale to co robis je madarska iredenta a skreslovanie faktov. Tak ci tak, sam pises ze si len pomadarceny a nie si skutocny Madar ale German. A co sa tyka madarciny, ved ona ani nerozlisuje rody a foneticky znie naozaj ako brechanie psa a nie ako civilizovana ludska rec - ten vplyv Azie je tam silno citit. Uvedom si ze Madari su odsudeni na asimilaciu, nemaju sancu prezit medzi Slovanmi, Germanmi a Rumunskom, preto robis tieto fasisisticke vypady na wikipedii a oslavujes spolupracu Madarska a nacistickeho Nemecka. Pozri si vysledky referenda o obcianstve, ktore sa konalo v Madarsku - samotni Madari nechcu aby Madari spoza hranic dostali obcianstvo. Chapem ze je to pre teba smutne. Nepatris ani tu ani tam. Takze neplac nad Hedvigou Malinou ale spomen si na unosy slovenskych deti do Madarska...
The English translation of the ugly Slovak text from above. I've tried my best but didn't really proofread it or anything, so it might contain a typo or two. Therefore you should proceed with caution ;)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
CoolKoon, let me put it this way: Slovaks, Poles, Czechs, Serbians, Russians, Ukrainians, Croatians and other nations are Slavs. They're brothers. They have similar languages. They're connected by Slavic reciprocity. But whose brothers are Hungarians? What other nation can they converse with? Where do they belong surrounded by Germanic, Slavic states and Romania? Just read the books of Sándor Márai where he writes about how his Hungarian nation is abandoned. That's why the task of the Hungarians in the Carpathian basin is to get assimilated, forget its language and statehood and divide Hungary between the surrounding countries. Be glad that you speak Slovak, thus you can become Slovak.
CoolKoon read this and truth will free you
Prof. L. L. Cavalli - Sforza at Standard University in the USA, when studied the migration of nations and their languages, concluded that the population of Hungary is an anomaly in Europe. They're using the language of Asian conquerors, but the population itself isn't ethnically Hungarian - it's mostly Slavic, definitely European. Prof. Cavalli - Sforza along with his colleagues confirms this anomaly using genetical blood tests, published in Scienficic American published. in Novemver 1991. According to this research the key gene (which Cavalli has relied on during long-term studies of humans and languages on all continents) is the RH-negative factor in blood. This is entirely absent from Africans, Asians and Native Americans. It's however typical for Europeans. In case of Hungarians professor Cavalli-Sforza concludes that the originally Asian conquerors have forced their language on subjugated majority and it's hard to prove even fragments of Asian-Hungarian genes in today's population of Hungary. According to the professor the population's been completely replaced. That's why anyone who speaks about "Hungarian people" in ethnical sense today, is only delving in fantasies. The majority of Hungarians knows that, but is afraid to talk about it, which naturally causes internal tension for them, confusion, extremism and can be one of the reasons for the high percentage of suicide attempts in Hungarian population. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.75.114 (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL This is unreal.........in fact YOU are unreal. That "brothership" applies more or less only to the fact that they have similar languages. But feel free to ask a Serbian, what does he think of his Croation "brothers" (who he can actually even understand). Or ask a Bulgarian, what does he think about Macedonians (they purportedly have only minor differences in their languages). I'm sure that you'll be in for a great surprise. Or to mention something closer, just ask the Polish what do they think about the "Russian brother". They'll surely set your straight on the topic of panslavism.
As far as the support of Hungarians is concerned it's pretty much irrelevant that Hungarians are surrounded by Slavs, Romanians and Germans. Hungarians also have their allies, such as Polish ("Polak Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli i do szklanki" - just google this) and usually Germans as well. What do the Slovaks have? No one except for the Czechs. You'd surely prefer to send whole Hungary to hell, Serbians are irrelevant and Russians have ulterior motives. And it's pretty much pointless that Hungarians have problems in communication with Poles and Germans, because language isn't nearly the most important thing. Unfortunately it's pretty pointless to explain this to a bone-headed nationalist such as you. I speak Slovak mostly out of necessity (in Bratislava it's pretty much the only language people understand) and it also comes handy while reading Czech literature/watching Czech movies. I wish at times of reading/listening to the manifestation of your idols in the likes of Slota, Fico etc. however that I couldn't understand a word of it at all, but even then would I feel that they (or rather their words) radiate foulness.
As far as you comment's concerned I have to disappoint you I'm afraid. Hungarian press (in contrast with the Slovak one) regularly informs about scientific research, which take place not only in foreign countries but at home as well. And this is the reason why the findings of either this exact study or another similar one was published in Hungary as well (I know it was published, because I've read about it in Hungarian). And what did your idol Slota do with it? He read it (or rather gave it to someone to read aloud for him, because I doubt that he can read....) and interpreted it as a proof his finding that "it was Old Slovak blood, which has civilized Hungarians". But in the meantime nothing could be further from truth just like assertions about nationalist Slovaks having critical thinking. So let me explain to you again: the feeling of being Hungarian isn't about genes at all. It's exlusively about the way such person feels. Exactly like in America. Or do you want to prove the "ineligibility" of usage of term "American" as well?
On the other hand I'm not even sure, whether discussing with you makes any sense at all. Perhaps if I were a psychiatrist....CoolKoon (talk) 15:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't mention the Germans you know, they've helped you in the times of the Third Reich, so bragging about Adolf Hitler's support - I wouldn't do that, CoolKoon. Trianon is a righteous thing, you know, but not righteous enough. The Hungarians should've been left with Budapest and a 20 km zone around it. The rest to be divided between Slovakia, Serbia, Romania and Austria. Hungarian profesors state that there's no Old Hungarian blood in Hungarians, but then why do Slavs (pseudo-Hungarians) speak Hungarians?? That's illogical. Hungary deserves demise for its oppression. You write about Hedviga Malinova, but forget about the following:
Apponyi's drastical magyarization laws from 1907 weren't the worse example of care of the Monarchy about its non-Hungarian nations. Even bigger attrocities have happened in Hungary at the end of the 19th century. In 1887 deportations of Slovak children to Hungary (?) began on the order of Budapest, against the will of their parents, which lasted until 1892. The goal of these actions was a morbid production of statistical Hungarians. After 1918, when Austria-Hungary has split up, at least 60,000 cases of forcibly abducted and magyarized Slovak children were recorded. (source???) Hungarians are alien elements between Slavs and Germans, Asian tribe with a language, which couldn't be understood by anyone else in Europe. That's why even you, magyarized Slav, are even worse than as if you were Hungarian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.28.75.114 (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now it's absolutely clear: you're insane and you're ripe for asylum. I hope at least that you're already admitted, but you haven't been there for long and thus treatment isn't working yet. The thing is that only a madman would write the things you wrote. Ironically though extreme nationalists of your type have as if a chronic deficiency in thinking things through before they post their lunatic rants.
I'll begin with that "not righteous enough" treaty of Trianon. If only a 20 km zone around Budapest would've been all that would've been left of Hungary, Slovakia surely wouldn't exist today. I presume that Serbia and Romania either. Do you know why? Because Hungarians would've constituted majority in all the successor states. Trianon would've therefore been followed by a strong wave of magyarization in all the states and then (after all of them have become Hungarian again), they would've been merged again. Thus we'd have a second (maybe even bigger) Greater Hungary with a considerably lower amount of minorities....
FYI: the word "maďarón" was made up by Czechs. And wanna guess, who did they use it for first? For Slovaks of course, because they've explained their "weird accent/dialect" with the assertion that they're in fact magyarized Slavs, who don't speak proper Czech only for the fact that they were magyarized. So who's the magyarized Slav? Rather you, perhaps? And BTW my name is probably of German origin, so I'm more likely to be a magyarized German (probably 3rd or 4th generation). But I in contrast with slovakized Hungarians don't have any moral objections against learnning the language of my ancestors.
You know, in contrast with Slovaks the relations of Hungary with countries such as Germany and Poland are mutual. Horthy's Hungary for instance helped escape a lot of Poles from Poland in the dawn of WWII, when it was conquered (and divided) by Hitler and Stalin with the assistance of Slovakia. Hungarians didn't fight on the side of the Germans during both world wars only, but supported even East Germans in their attempts to defect to Austria (the deed -as it turned out later- was purely symbolical, but despite that it considerably improved Hungary's relationship with Germany). Slovaks however don't want to help anyone, not even their own brethren. Lunatics like you just keep rambling about Hungary and its minority laws, but due to the Monarchy there's a sizable Slovak minority not only in Hungary, but in Romania and Serbia as well. There's no way for one to learn/hear/read about them from newspapers or politicians either, because Slovak demagogues (the likes of Fico, Slota, Mečiar and others) consider them uninteresting, who aren't even worth to be dealt with. So instead of badmouthing Hungarians you should really ask your idols about updates on the "Slovak brethren" in Transylvania and Vojvodina.
I'm not sure where did you get this nonsense about "forced abduction" of Slovak children from, but I'm pretty sure that it wasn't a reliable source for sure. You surely got it from books in the likes of "Maďarské (seba)klamy" (a strongly anti-Hungarian book about "myths" the author considers to be spread by Hungarians, and it's full of grave inaccuracies and strong anti-Hungarian sentiment to say at least), and/or magazines in the likes of "Extra Plus" (a nationalist magazine published weekly) or portals in the likes of beo.sk (a nationalistic news portal with some occasional anti-Semitic publications as well). But it doesn't really matter, because none of them has any tangible evidence about it, since no such thing exists.
That babbling of yours about blood and a language understood by no one is pretty much irrelevant. Bonds aren't based solely on blood or (common) language and besides, none of them warrant anything. A notable counterargument about the first one is the fact that even though Slovaks and Hungarians have common genes and history, Slovaks hate Hungarians (or rather the Hungarian language itself) from the bottom of their hearts. A counterargument for the second case (about a common language or similarity between the languages) was the (de facto civil) war in Jugoslavia. The killings were started abruptly by people who have an almost common language and who were peaceful neighbors before. Or the "tricks" done by Russians agains their "Slavic brothers" in Poland.
You're flaunting with Hungary's cooperation with the fascist Germany again - it's a shame however. That transport of Slovak childre to Hungary is a historical fact, it's obvious that you're refusing to see it, because it spoils your view of the flawless Hungarians. Hungarian is a really backwards, disparate and ugly language - it sounds like a dog's barking. But the euphonius Slovak is a gem among the Slavic languages. It's pointless for you to sputter and foam, long live the pan-Slavic reciprocity - brethrenship between Serbians, Slovaks, Czechs, Poles, Russians etc. Hungarians don't have anyone for them, they don't belong to any group of nations, an Asian tribe gone astray, which is already extinct - all that remains is their dirty language. You aren't Hungarian either - you're only magyarized. It's quite obvious to me that your idol Orbán won't stop at anything to reach his irredentistic goals, even if that'd mean war - that would however mean the demise of Hungary, because the alliance of Slovaks, Romanians and Serbians with the support of the Red Army would wipe out even traces of Hungarian irredentism. And your fairytale about Poles being helped by Hungarians isn't even worth commenting...how much it was, if Hungary and Poland don't have a common border (note: the used to have at the time...) - it's only a dream of yours.
You're a genuine psycho. You might've already noticed that I've reported you on ANI and your IP account doesn't seem to have a bright future ahead either. I'll tell you the reason of my report as well: madness is one thing, I don't give a fuck about Trianon, but the remainder of the things you put here are offending for every Hungarian which comes around (and understands this text). Just where do you think you are? In a solitary confinement? Or a pub? I'll have to disappoint you, because you aren't in any of these. You're at one of the most popular portals on the Internet, where it's expected from others to keep it cool and express themselves in a civil manner. I'm not sure whether it was the lack of education, alcoholism or ceaseless listening to Slota's nonsense, that led to your boorishness, but you should definitely get rid of this style and manner, because I'm not the only one who can understand this text and you might not get away with limitless badmouthing of Hungarians over here like you would in the hick town of yours on the east (or mostly anywhere in Slovakia).
I'm not sure what causes your hallucinations about a war provoked by Orbán, but I fear that an increase in your antipsychotic drugs' dosage is necessary. You can forget about the Red Army as well, because it's been gone for a long time, comrade Major. You should also look up the meaning of the term "Polak, Węgier, dva bratanky, i do szabli, i do szklanki" regarding Polish-Hungarian cooperation and you might finally awaken and find that all this time you were just dreaming. As for the amount (of Poles), it happened in the dawn of WWII (note: after the Vienna Award), when Hungary has conquered Zakarpathia (i.e. at the time when your parents were hanged if they couldn't recite the Lord's Prayer in Hungarian). As it happens Hungary has once again had (just like for a thousand years before Trianon) a common border with Poland. So Horthy was able to aid in the escape of at least tens of thousands of Poles (probably even more). What did Slovakia do in the meanwhile? Just sat back and watced as their "Slavic brethren" were massacred by Germans and (the other Slavic brethren) Russians and even joined them (headed by Tiso). The only catastrphe in the history of Slovakia bigger than this was the complete frenzy of the whole country done by your favorite Slovak comrades (the damage that's been done by them was of such degree that it hasn't been healed up to this day even in Bratislava let alone in the rest of the country). CoolKoon (talk) 23:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll join in only for a short while. I've noticed that reference to "Polak Wegier dwa bratanki" and I just want to remind you that it applies ot Hungarians and Slovaks as well, because I doubt that we're talking about Hungary and not Greater Hungary. Wladthemlat (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to disappoint you then: Hungarians are called "Węgry" in Polish while Hungary (and Greater Hungary - "Uhorsko" as well) "Węgria". The demonym is probably derived from (just like it probably used to be in Czech as well) the word "coal", which is "węgla". Thus I have a feeling that "Uhersko" was the "Old Czech" name for Hungary and "Uhři" was also their old term form Hungarians. but while the latter word fell into disuse (and the original meaning of the former one has been lost as well), this second term is used up to this day to refer to "pre-Trianon Hungary", which in the end has been loaned by Slovaks as well. And this explanation for the origins of the word "Uhorsko" is much more logical than some of the Slovak myths (say ,does Matica Slovenská have ANY explanation for the origin of this word?). CoolKoon (talk) 11:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CoolKoon, just remember the Little Entente, which was a military alliance of Romania, Serbia and Slovakia (????) against Hungarian fascism. I think that it's time for its renewal. I understand that your idol - fascistic party Jobbik wants to achieve border changes a that you want that as well even by means of war, but what you're doing is Hungarian irredentism and distortion of the facts. Either way you're writing that you're only magyarized and that you're not a real Hungarian but a German. And as for Hungarian it doesn't even have grammatical genders and phonetically it really sounds like a dog's barking and not like a civilized human language - that Asian influence is very strong indeed. You have to realize that Hungarians' fate is to be assimilated, they don't have a chance of surviving between Slavs, Germans and Romanians, that's why you're having these fasistic outlashes on Wikipedia and celebrating Hungary's cooperation with Nazi Germany. Just look at the results of the Hungarian referendum about double citizenship - Hungarians themselves didn't wanted to grant citizenship to Hungarians from abroat. I understand that it's sad for you. You don't really belong to us or them either. So don't cry over Hedvig Malina, but remember the abduction of the Slovak kids to Hungary...
Nah, I was working on it for 2 days in the evening, because unfortunately he was REALLY asking for it. If you'd really like me to have the conversation with you translated as well, you can use his text as a "howto guide" and I'd "gladly" do it for you (or anyone else as well). You'd even get twogratis ANI reports too.
I noticed that you have posted comments in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. I understand this is your talk page, but it would be better if communication was in English.Chaosdruid (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sort of ok with Babelfish translating it, though it's Czech translation is not completely accurate. It is just that, as the conversation seems a little "heated", it may be of benefit for at least one of you to use English lol :¬)
My fav part was the comment "I do not know what it is due to your induced hallucination of war Orbanom, but probably is thy place by increasing the daily dose of antipsychotic drugs." Chaosdruid (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I prefer Google Translator for most of the translation, because it's by far the best (not that it doesn't mess up text badly at times). Hopefully you didn't try translating it using the Czech translator as the text is in Slovak (not that there's a big difference between the two :P).
As for the content itself, let me translate that "favorite part" of yours correctly: "I'm not sure what causes your hallucinations about a war provoked by Orbán, but upping the dosage of your antipsychotic drugs might be necessary."
The problem with the whole discussion (among others) is the fact that Bizovne has started it in Slovak on Wladthemlat's talk page and I didn't feel like continuing in English. But to satisfy your curiosity (even though you might need some additional background info about SK and HU politicians etc.), I might as well translate the whole conversation to English. I'll have to find some spare time for that though.... CoolKoon (talk) 23:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, weird, using Babelfish's Slovak translator didn't work for some reason - for whole paragraphs/pages babelfish normally uses Google as it is...anyway I am not sure if you need to translate it as this is your own talk page, rather than an article talk page, as the guidelines do not mention ones own userpage specifically.
yw ;) As for translating I think I WILL translate the whole thing ASAP, because I think that others might want to enjoy it as well, Adrian's also growing restless and others (who don't speak Slovak) are interested in it as well. -- CoolKoon (talk) 16:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello
I noticed that you have posted comments in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. Greetings. Adrian (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh, just how many more of you will post me this template? I WILL translate some of the text but I'm afraid I won't be able to (nor willing to) satisfy the curiosity of all of you. You'll have to learn Slovak (Czech might do as well) and Hungarian for that I'm afraid..... CoolKoon (talk) 10:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did`t wrote that in bad faith and I tried not to use the default template because you have received this notice before. I did`t put the template, I did`t change much - true, but that isn`t the point here. If you write something on the English wikipedia please use English , or at least do what the talk page guildlines say -provide a suitable translation. I am sorry, but I don`t want to learn Slovakian, Czech or Hungarian, If I would, I would use that particular language wikipedia. Please use English on the English wikipedia. Greetings. Adrian (talk) 14:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ale klidek! You'll get to know the contents of the conversation soon enough. I can see that you're dying to learn the contents of the conversation but rest assured that your curiosity will be satisfied. Until that happens Google Translation's there just for you..... besides, this is MY talk page anyway.... CoolKoon (talk) 16:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That`s not the point.. I explained everything in my previous messages. We are not alone here. I think it applies to talk pages also.. ex: [10]. Anyway, did`t want to make a big deal out of this, just wanted to remind you that this is the English wikipedia and as such we should use English because this pages are accessible by almost everybody who was a Internet connection. Imagine if I start speaking Serbian with Tom, Romanian with Jerry and Croatian with Monica. And everybody else start doing so... Then the English wikipedia would be a mess. There are local projects in Slovak, Czech or Hungarian therefore there isn`t any reason why to use that languages in the English version wikipedia. I could give you many examples where whole conversations are in other languages and that is really confusing. Greetings. Adrian (talk) 22:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ahoj CoolKoon, myslim ze anglicka wikipedia nie je vhodnym priestorom na presadzovanie Tvojich fasistickych, iredentistickych, revizionistickych a velkomadarskych nazorov. Prestan propagovat spolupracu Madarska a hitlerovskeho Nemecka pocas 2 svatovej vojny. Tvoj fasizmus na wiki nema miesto —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.87.75.82 (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pre Boha ziveho, tebe naprosto sibe! Kde si videl, ze som propagoval "spolupracu Madarska a hitlerovskeho Nemecka pocas 2 svatovej vojny"? Ukaz! Jedine, co som spominal, boli FAKTY. Je to FAKT, ze Horthy ZACHRANOVAL Poliakov po viedenskej arbitrazi ako aj to, ze Madarsko STALO pocas 1. aj 2. sv. vojny na strane Nemecka a v 1989 POMOHLO vychodnym Nemcom, ktori chceli utiect do Rakuska. Co robili ceskoslovenski hraniciari? Vrazdili svojich vlastnych obcanov. A to mame v Petrzalke namestie pomenovane po nich (Namestie hraniciarov). Urcite aj ty si bol jednym z nich. Alebo si len ich potomkom? -- CoolKoon (talk) 19:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your good attitude and frank and open reponse
The Rosetta Barnstar
For outstanding dedication to voluntarily translate you own user talk-page posts. We appreciate the time it took and your willingness to help open and frank disclosure of conversations in non-English languages. Chaosdruid (talk) 00:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Gee, thanks :) I've re-read the whole translation though and found quite a few typos and other minor mistakes, so I can't say I'm totally satisfied. However I'm lacking the will to make the necessary corrections :P CoolKoon (talk) 11:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hungarian names for places before 1867
Hi, as the official language of the Kingdom of Hungary was Latin until 1867[11], using Hungarian names for cities etc. before this date is anachronistic. Since the Latin name that was used at the time can scarcely be found, we should list all the places with their modern names. Thank You. --Bizovne (talk) 11:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Szerintem menj vissza az LMP klubbodba és higgadj le
A jedlik ányosos cikk képei a magyar wikin legálisan vannak fent.
A térkép pedig 120 éves Pallas lexikonból van, amit be is bizonyítottam. Se a magyar se a világ szerzői jog törvényei nem tiltják 120 éves képek szabad közzétételét. 120 éves kép szkennelése okán (mivel nem 3D objektumról van szó csupán 2D-ről azaz térképről)pedig egyetlen weboldal sem tud jogot követelni magának. Szerintem szerzői jogról nem sokat hallottál, még csak jogi diplomád sincs tini fiú. Én itt szerkesztek különböző neveken 2006 óta, (amikor te még a wikit nem is olvastad kishaver)--Faberers (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Please do not attack other editors, as you did here: Talk:Civilization V. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Fin©™ 21:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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