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List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: Chinese books)

Hi Bamse, not a problem, but I won't get to it for a few days if that's okay. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, take whatever time you need and as usual let me know if you have any questions on the content. bamse (talk) 07:05, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll start on it tomorrow. I got pulled into another project, also art related, and I wanted to get down my notes while they were fresh in my mind. Spending a few days on copyediting will be helpful to let ideas percolate through. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:51, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Good to hear and interesting project. BTW, I put one of the NT lists here (the one you wrote the blurb for), so it might appear on the main page sooner or later. bamse (talk) 07:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I've done an initial read through and made a few minor changes. You've presented a lot of information and I need a second read through to get it straight in my mind. One thing that I noticed is that Heian seems to be linked multiple times, and some things that could be linked, aren't. Also, I think the lead will need some work to incorporate a summary of all that you summarize in the subsections, if that makes sense. I'll be back at it tomorrow. Sorry, slow progress. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Not slow at all! Thanks for the edits already. I'll have a look at over/underlinking and will see what I can do abou the lead. bamse (talk) 10:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, just so you know, since it came up in the last review, I'll probably be splitting some of the long sentences, if I feel it's necessary. I'll mark those edits because that's where it's the most dangerous in terms of changing the meaning. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 13:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Done for now. Now that I have it straight in my head, I'll give some thought to the lead. The subsections are already quite lengthy, and no need to recreate, but I think something needs to be mentioned in the lead about the subsections - that the list consists of books created in China, books created in Japan (and re-imported to China), and the importance of the Song editions. Otherwise, looks good. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I tweaked the lead last again last night and think I'm done. I haven't actually checked the text in the boxes, only in the subsections. I'll follow it, once you nominate. I don't know how much I'll be around in the next few weeks, but I do check in. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 11:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Civil war of Wa

Hello! Your submission of Civil war of Wa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! - Yk³ talk ~ contrib 06:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I found 2/3 of the books you asked for here. You may need to use Google Chrome to read them, though.

Today's Featured List Submissions

Hi Bamse,

I have written the blurbs for all the today's featured lists submissions I have made, but I can't take all the credit; the majority of each blurb is taken word-for-word from the lists' ledes. Great job in writing all those lists of National Treasures of Japan! I'd wait a while before submitting another blurb for one of those, but if you have a suggestion of a list that represents an underrepresented category on TFLS, I would be glad to consider writing a blurb for it.

Neelix (talk) 21:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Bamse,

I will consider writing one eventually, although I think that other areas are more underrepresented at the moment. Let me know if you succeed in getting List of World Heritage in Danger, List of protected areas of Tanzania, or Twelve Heavenly Generals up to featured list status; it would be great to get one of those up on the main page.

Neelix (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Weinraub

Hi - you're listed in the German-English translators list - can you tell me what "Weinraub" means in English? Thanks--Sreifa (talk) 09:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you have some context for it? I don't know such word, but it might be a made-up word out of Wein=wine and Raub=robbery. Also seems to be a family name. bamse (talk) 20:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Alternatively it might be a misspelling of Weintraube=grape. bamse (talk) 20:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: Japanese books)

Sorry for the delay, but I've finally started. I'm having a lot of trouble loading the page, watching the circle on my computer go round & round, so I've moved it to the sandbox to work there. We can use the talk page there for comments/discussion. I know you'll be gone next week, but if I do the edits in the sandbox, anything I do wrong is easily fixed. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 22:26, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm long overdue for a break, but I promise I'll get your article finished first. Don't be alarmed at my blank page. Just wanted you to know that I'll help you through this last page in this endeavor. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 03:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I forgot to tell you that I'd moved your comments to the sandbox talkpage - easier to navigate and to check. Anyway, I think I'm done. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 12:12, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Civil war of Wa

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

You've inspired me

Hi Bamse, I don't know when I'll get to it, but you've inpired me to work on Lady Marusaki. I've always found her to be interesting, and I love the images. So, I haven't moved away completely from Japanese art. This is will be a long term project, but should be an interesting one. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic! Let me know if I can be of any help. I am not sure I have much in the way of sources though. bamse (talk) 19:11, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

There is a (partial) genealogy of her (i.e. ancestors up to Fusasaki (681-737)) in the Cambridge History of Japan, but not sure whether that's of any use. bamse (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I checked out a book from the library today but haven't had the time to look at it - I have an article going on the main page tonight! I'll probably lift some of what you have about waka (and use those sources) to put in a style section, and the genealogy will be helpful. Finding sources will be a challenge and I have to give it some thought, but it's an interesting topic. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Will check out the mainpage tonight! Considering that not even her name is known, I doubt (but don't really know) that there will be a lot to write about her bio beyond her works, style, etc. (Do you have access to the CHoJ?) bamse (talk) 19:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I had a look at my library and the only books that tell more about Murasaki Shikibu than "Genji is fantastic" are the Cambridge History of Japan (Heian period) and Aston's "A History of Japanese literature" (which is very old and should probably not be relied on too much). Do you have access to these books or do you want me to extract the relevant info from them (which I'd happily do)? bamse (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. I have this one [1] which has a few pages of biography, and this looks promising - [2] - has a few pages about her life in the introduction. I think this will be a case of pulling sources out of the air, and would work on it slowly. I'd appreciate any information you can add - go ahead and dump it in my sandbox. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Dumped the Aston source which is probably fine for historical facts, but his judgements should likely be taken with a grain of salt (as it was written a hundred years ago). (PS: Send you an email.) bamse (talk) 00:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks. I've found a few others too, but need to take this very slowly. Will check email now. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted you to know that I looked in my library for the book you requested and it's not there, unfortunately. While there I found a Cambridge Encyclopedia of Japan instead of the Cambridge History of Japan, but one of the editors is Bowring, and it has a piece about court life during the Heian period, Michinaga, Murasaki Shikibu, so it's a good overview. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the trouble to search for it. Will keep looking for it or some other sources that could replace it. bamse (talk) 21:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Toyohara Chikanobu

Thank you for your suggestions. Although a great deal of time and care has been invested in this article, it remains unclear in many ways. Regrettably, I could not offer the kind of constructive critical comments you were able to provide. I hope your words are construed as helpful and well-meaning. We'll see. In any case, your overview does help me to re-think how I might have parsed a unique set of problems and opportunities. This article has unfolded as a puzzle which interests me. I appreciate participating tangentially in the development of this limited-focus subject. --Tenmei (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you again for your peer review comments here. A quick scan of this article's edit history here reveals that I am not the principle contributor. User:GaryD144's investments of time and care are noteworthy, but his contributions remain those of an intermittent, single-purpose account. I don't want to discourage his continued edits and participation, but at the same time, I simply haven't figured out how to engage more interactive give-and-take.

Hopefully, your words and your perspective were precisely what was needed at this time. I'm sorry that it took some time for me to find the words to explain this more clearly; but there we have it. --Tenmei (talk) 18:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta

Thanks for your input. I responsed to your message here.--Rochelimit (talk) 05:37, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Bamse, thank you. I responded to ur message in DYK and a thank you very much message in my talk page :)--Rochelimit (talk) 05:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Omura Shrine

Materialscientist (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Japan Old Province

Thank you for helping me to parse and evaluate a trivial problem. --Tenmei (talk) 14:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

List of National Treasures of Japan

I see that List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: Chinese books) is now confirmed as a featured article. Congratulations -- not only for the end result, but also for the way in which your work brings attention to the process which produces it. --Tenmei (talk) 18:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, also for your recent edits. Quite happy that the last one is up for review now. bamse (talk) 21:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Anraku-ji (Ueda)

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Sangi (Japan)

There were as many as eight Sangi at any one time. <:ref>Dickson, Walter G. et al. (1898). "The Eight Boards of Government" in Japan, p. 60., p. 60, at Google Books; excerpt, "The Sangi ... is a very important office — eight officers. They are of high rank ... and are chosen for their talent for the office. This seems to be to report upon the proceedings and conclusions of the other officers of the board; to watch and also advise, and sometimes to act as judges. They are both civil and military. If a man has shown himself qualified for this office he may rise to it, though not originally of high rank."</ref>

This doesn't fully address your more focused questions about the three brothers; but it is a small step towards a better understanding. --Tenmei (talk) 05:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks for digging it up. I am now a bit confused about the cause for the rebellion. Most sources I read, say that Hirotsugu sent a petition to the emperor asking for the dismissal of Kibi no Makibi and Genbo. Titsingh writes that Hirotsugu had made false reports and Kibi no Makibi and Genbo were warning the emperor (here they seem to be rather on the side of Hirotsugu as they recommend to send Hirotsugu back [to Yamato?]).Lastly, you wrote that "Kibi no Makibi and Genbō conspire to discredit Fujiwara no Hirotsugu" (based on the same sentence or on other sources as well?) Possibly, it could have been this order: (i) Hirotsugu made false reports; (ii) Genbo and Makibi warning the emperor (iii) Hirotsugu requesting dismissal of the two because of that. However I haven't found a source which mentions all of this together. bamse (talk) 07:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)