User talk:Floquenbeam

AN filing

Floquenbeam,

I saw your notice. Since I mentioned your name and our agreement during an AN filing, I thought I'd give you a heads up about it just in case you wanted to add anything to it or comment on it. The AN filing is here . Thanks. KoshVorlon R.I.P Leonard Nimoy "Live Long and Prosper" 11:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, I'm in "meh" mode right now as far as WP is concerned, so I won't be commenting there. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:05, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Full protection

What justification was there to protect that talk page? Tutelary (talk) 17:22, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

To stop you from shit stirring was one. To stop you from making an unfortunate situation regarding a living breathing human being worse is another. I have a few others, but I'll save them for the inevitable ANI. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:24, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Really, thank you for that, it is exactly what was needed. In fact you beat me to it by just a few seconds. Some people just can't see the forest through the trees and apparently believe that the letter of our policies is god's own law and nothing else matters. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem. While you're here, @Beeblebrox:, do you have any problem if I restore RG's talk page access in a week or so? It might be useful for him to talk to other people before the block expires, but after a bit of a break. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Support protection. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Tutelary, use your common sense. This isn't RGloucester's first kick at the can and past history has shown that when he's upset, he tends to make really, really unfortunate remarks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

• I don't mind if you restore it early. Of course I am operating under the assumption that if he starts back up with the crazy nonsense you'll yank it back. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Just in case you missed it: that IP was our old pal Kumioko/Regyula. I should have recognized the style with all the hating on admins and self-pity. I do believe I am going to shut this machine off and do something else. (i.e. drinking) This whole episode is just sad and depressing on every level. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:12, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

(a) Yes, of course.

(b) I hadn't picked up on that, although in retrospect it was classic Kumioko. I should have known. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Issues_at_Rgloucester.27s_talk_page. Thank you. Tutelary (talk) 21:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Over before I got back. But at least you had fun, which is the important thing. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:00, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Re User_talk:2600:1017:B800:4B55:24F6:8DF5:75E5:981E

Floquenbeam, I see you blocked this user, but he's now abusing his page by pinging people telling them that he'll be back in 12 months. Childish stuff, but still, he probably should have his talk page access cut off KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 23:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks like Reaper Eternal got it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

That user sent me a ping also, before they were banned. When I looked thru the history I saw the name "dodo bird die". That user is a sockpuppet!!!!!! If you go to my user page and go thru my history you will see someone with the name Epicgenius 2 or Dodo birds die, vandalizing my page, and if you go on their history, you will also see that they had also messed around with other peoples pages with vandalism and profanity!Doorknob747 (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

is the discussion about me on ANI over yet

if yes can u archive it?Doorknob747 (talk) 16:42, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't know enough about you to close that thread, and I'm not going to wade through it. I suspect if I did, I would block you from editing. But I have seen enough to tell you not to comment on ANI threads that do not already directly concern you, or I will block you from editing. You're giving too much incorrect information/advice, and complicating threads that don't affect you. You need to focus on the fact that a lot of people are saying your edits are a problem, and not focus on other people's problems.

Also, you should stop editing Wikipedia from your phone; according to you, it's causing problems, and according to everyone else, they're having to clean it up.

I'll cross-post this to your talk page to make sure you see it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:04, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't know if you have seen it but there is a section at ANI about Door Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Doorknob747 Im doing my best to WP:AGF but with edits like these: [1], [2] it becomes hard to. I feel that plenty of editors have done their best to reach out here but how far does it go? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

That's what the thread title is about... I'm not going to get involved in that thread, some other admin will deal with it eventually. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Archiving WP:ANI

Hey, Flo,
There is an editor that I believe is trying to be helpful and is archiving cases on WP:ANI that they believe are finished. But there is a bot that takes care of that, right? I wasn't sure about undoing all of Mdann52's edits and you look like the last admin to comment on the noticeboard. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

@Liz:, Lowercasesigmabot archives threads that have had no edits in 48 hours (or maybe 36, I'm not sure). It looks like Mdann52 is going through and clearing out threads that don't meet that criterion, but are still stale and taking up a lot of bandwidth. If he's archiving threads that should be archived, he's doing us a favor. If he's archiving threads that shouldn't be archived, you can ask him to be more cautious when choosing threads to remove. I've seen him do it before, though, with no complaints I'm aware of, so if I have to guess, I'd say he's probably do it right. Why, are there threads you don't think are "done" yet? If so, drop him a note on his talk page. If not, then I think he's helping. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like I owe Mdann52 a big apology! To be honest, looking at the most recent archive, the cases weren't closed. But I realize that not all archived cases are closed, some are left unresolved. And while I've seen editors/admins take cases out of the archive (if they were archived prematurely), I'll admit that I've never seen anyone put cases in the archives. I thought only the bot handled that. But if this is not unusual and it's just new to me, that's cool. My apologies, Mdann52! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:35, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

INB

I had interacted OccultZone at INB, he is active there. Delibzr (talk) 01:51, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Do you know the other three? I'm quite puzzled by this pattern. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

You can update this to the ANI, and I have never seen those other three before. ANI is just full of people who you don't know, now I am not sure who is 50.0.136.194, but he is commenting like a pro. Delibzr (talk) 01:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Reguyla

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Hello Floquenbeam. I hope you are well. I have been speaking with Kumioko via IRC in the unblock channel. I will be the first to admit I have not followed the Kumioko saga. I will also agree that past attempts to resolve editing behavior have not worked well. That said, I see you have removed his ability to edit his talk page. While I understand the reasoning behind this, I would like to ask that you lift it. I have been speaking with Kumioko who is willing to post an unblock request with what I consider to be reasonable conditions. Thanks, Tiptoety ^talk 02:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Wait, what? Why the fuck are you talking to him about an unblock request, when his previous indef block was reduced to 6 months on the condition he not edit WP during that time, and he has since socked dozens of times since then? The latest yesterday? There are no "reasonable conditions", he had unreasonable conditions in his favor and he refused to meet them. He requested an unblock a little while ago on UTRS and was denied. He has had talk page access removed since November, and several months before that, due to serial socking. And he's not socking to edit articles, he's socking to stir shit. How could you possibly believe anything he says? Aren't you a functionary, for God's sake? Aren't you supposed to have some tiny iota of clue? No, I won't change the block settings, and I will be deeply, deeply disappointed if you do. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

(e/c) I'm disappointed by your response, not your answer, but your response. Yes, I am a functionary, but that does not mean I have to engage in group-think. Additionally, as a fellow functionary I would expect more respect from you. As I stated above, I have not followed the Kumioko saga. Instead of calling me clueless, you could have briefly explained your opinion and provided me with the history that lead to your decision. If this is how you react to administrators who come here in good faith to you to discuss your administrative actions, then you should not be performing the actions. Anyways, my apologies for disturbing you. Tiptoety ^talk 03:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 8,673 times, and on Wikipedia you get another chance. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

So if I say something mean to Tiptoety 8,672 more times, he won't be mad anymore? --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

+1 in the absolutely shocked by the nature of your response. Floquenbeam, that's quite, quite unnecessary and wholly unacceptable. I'd like to see you apologise to Tiptoety and seriously think about resigning, if that's how you're going to respond to people trying to work in a collaborative environment. Nick (talk) 10:15, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Opinion noted, and given the consideration it deserves. --Floquenbeam (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

• Any unblock of Kumioko at this point in time would be, to be blunt, incredibly stupid. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 10:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

• If we can keep Kumioko away from perpetually criticising ArbCom and various administrators, we will get an enormous amount of good quality content for very little trouble, which is all that we want ask of anybody editing here - have a very low noise to signal ratio.

The problem we face with Kumioko, perhaps more so than any other blocked user, is that the block is feeding the pattern of bad behaviour. He's a user who has become steadily more disruptive because of some really quite bad administrative decisions concerning him, and to continue to insist those administrative decisions should stay as they are is really just continuing to pour fuel on the fire. I don't know if reversing those administrative decisions will extinguish the fire or not, but it's abundantly clear the current course of action isn't working and it's genuinely worthwhile trying something different.

The blocks are cheap, if unblocking Kumioko doesn't work, he can be re-blocked. If he's unblocked, there would naturally need to be editing restrictions, the one I favour is Kumioko not commenting on any administrative action or discussion that doesn't involve him directly, so no crusades and interjections at ANI.

It has to be worth trying something - he was a damn good content creator, and in between his bouts of poking administrators with a stick, he still churns out some excellent content. I know some of the articles he wants to work on too, and I have no doubt if he can be kept to editing pretty much just those articles, we stand a good chance of getting back a good editor out of all of this. Nick (talk) 10:39, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

• Kumioko has been such a pest. I know Floquenbeam has tried to work with him, talk to him, and assume good faith of him, and has been burned for his pains. So have I, but Floq more, because he has more patience. But I still think, if the surely reasonably cynical Tiptoety thinks it's worth a shot after extended discussion with K, then we should try unblocking, with restrictions similar to what Nick proposes. You won't catch me saying reblocks are cheap, because they're not, they're damn expensive, but nevertheless. Bishonen | talk 11:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

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