User talk:Bluemoose/archive10

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I might reply here or on your page, I'm a bit crazy like that.

On wiki-break, long as possible, I may pop back to keep watchlist in check.

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AWB

When I, for the french wiki, google the word "Economie", all the page with accentued names are "broken", the accentued letter vanish.

And I find that the regular expressions are very complex to use with this program. That isn't easy Perl regexes !

See you soon !

My RfA

Hello Bluemoose, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Sam Vimes 19:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Request for Automation.

The template used for original albums is currently orange (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums#Colors for more information on the range used for different albums). This colour has generated a fair amount of complaints: some of them are aesthetic, others a wee bit more serious than that.

Could you possibly automate a process of changing this colour throughout the encyclopaedia? It would be rather tedious to implement manually. Perhaps teal or some other shade of blue would be appropriate.

Please let me know if you are available to help with this effort. --Folajimi 01:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

AWB

As you're one of more active admins on adding approved users, I would like to ask you for a small correction. My account (Klemen Kocjancic) and my bot's account (KocjoBot) were both approved and are on the list for a while. But someone accidently placed KocjoBot between users and not bots. Could you please correct this? Regards, --Klemen Kocjancic 20:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:Code project Copied from User talk:Werdna648

Hi, I am collecting lots of code to make a .NET library of useful wiki stuff, see the sourceforge cvs page for the actual code. So far I have got lots of code for formatting articles, getting lists of articles (e.g. from categories, whatLinksHere etc.) code for scanning the database dumps and more. Anyway, I was wondering if you wanted to contribute your bot code? If I remember correctly you didnt want to freely distribute it for risk of vandals using it, but I guess this doesnt matter now, as there is already another .NET bot framework available (I just prefer yours though). Anyway, see what you think, I think the components would all complement extremely well. thanks Martin 20:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

After consideration and a scared look at the requests backlog, I've decided to allow this, provided I get write access to the cvs/svn (to update the code). Werdna (talk) 09:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course, let me know what your SourceForge user name is, and I'll add you as a developer. p.s. I just added functions for listening to the IRC recent changes feed, so with your code it will be a pretty comprehensive suite of code. thanks Martin 17:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Werdna648; suprisingly. Werdna (talk) 01:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Great, I've added you now. Feel free to upload your code, or I can do it if you like, but bear in mind that there is already comprehensive code for creating lists of articles (in file getLists.cs), and a function to get the html of a page (file tools.cs), so this won't need to be duplicated, thanks! Martin 13:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I (finally) got around to committing. You probably got a commit notification about it. Looking forward to helping you out with this.Copying to Martin's User talk page Werdna (talk) 07:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks a lot. Martin 08:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Get on IRC

I miss you =( --mboverload@ 08:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

AWB bug

When editing userpages with a silly practical joke "new messages" bar, AWB still reports this as new messages and doesn't let you edit the page. I assume that AWB checks for the present of the CSS classname as the new messages check. Perhaps it could do a regex on the link as well, to see whether it matches http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:*&redirect=no (I don't know regex syntax!) Many thanks. haz (user talk) 12:15, 28 June 2006

Another Bug - please do not use AWB to "fix" dates in date articles. [1] It's creating unwanted changes. Rklawton 13:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I was correct in my action, that notice is not necessary any more. Martin 13:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

You are going to have to explain this to me. Perhaps I'm being dense. AWB changed more than the notice.

This is correct:

[[{{PAGENAME}}]] is the 120th day of the year in the [[Gregorian calendar]] (121st in [[leap year]]s), with 245 days remaining.

This is not:

[[April 30]] is the 120th day of the year in the [[Gregorian calendar]] (121st in [[leap year]]s), with 245 days remaining.

The note above these lines explains why:

<!-- Do not change [[{{PAGENAME}}]] it preserves the date correctly formatted and stops robots from delinking it. -->

All 367 date articles are coded this way. Is it your intention to revise them all?Rklawton 15:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

No it is not my intention to change them all, just as I come across them. The reason for using the PAGEMAME keyword was because some bots occasionally replaced the wiki-linking of the title with the proper syntax for bolding, however on date articles wiki-linking is needed to keep the date formatting, this issue has since been resolved, and thus the warning message and use of the keyword are not needed. Martin 15:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Martin, thanks for fixing AWB to know what to do with date pages. It's still best to leave them as they are, because it slows down people who reflexively delink article titles, and other automated process. Rich Farmbrough 15:39 28 June 2006 (GMT).

Whichever way you all want to go ahead with this is fine by me. However, I recommend uniformity for all 367 articles. Without uniformity, two (or more) editors might end up reverting each other citing non-uniform date artices by way of example. Rklawton 15:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Query API

Hi Martin. I just stumbled once again over User:Yurik/Query API. Could we explore that for use on AWB? Especially the what links here for templates smells like a nice candidate (example query for cite book, listing the first 500 entries). We could use the XML format of the output. I might give it a try on MWB once I'm finished/bored with my Special Replace zoo. Cheers! --Ligulem 08:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, doesn't look like it would be too difficult. Also, in AWB I have moved the replace special files to a separate subfolder, so all the files can be added there, previously I had merged the classes together. Once I have been able to add you as a dev you can just add/overwrite all the new stuff into there. Martin 08:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

AWB enquiry

This is mainly just a question. You removed my name from the AWB requests for registration page, but didn't add me to the check page. Does this mean that I was refused registration? Thanks --Richard0612 14:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, like it says on that page, the tool is for more experienced editors, as it could be mis-used. Martin 16:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for clearing it up. --Richard0612 16:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Request for off-wikipedia help

Hi Martin. I'm really interested in using AWB on Wikia. I realise that you made it specifically for Wikipedia and don't provide support for it elsewhere, but I wondered if you would consider helping out anyway? Jude helped me by adapting it to run on Wikia, and with the set-up, but for some reason it won't work for me. It worked just fine there for Jude, but when I try it freezes at "loading changes". Do you have any idea why it might do that, and would you be willing to help me get it going? I understand if you don't have the time or inclination of course :) Thanks -- sannse (talk) 11:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

To do it properly would be more work than I have time for at the moment, sorry. In the future I might make a cut down version that is more adaptable. Martin 15:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway -- sannse (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

yes, i did write the entire article

It clearly states on my userpage that I used to do editing under the IP address 24.59.115.54. And as such, you just asserted something that is not true. I think you should be more careful when you make statements in the future. Cheers, HalfDome 15:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not in the habit of reading your user page. Martin 15:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

new dump

hey martin! i know you're on a wiki-break, well deserved too, but might you have time to run my new regex with the new dump? the searcher still doesn't quite work for me (crashes), and i just got this new widescreen monitor and i'm excited to be able to run two copies of AWB in the same viewing space! :D plus, i think this is the first time i'll be using the '/s/b' action around each instance, so it should all be very parsimonious. JoeSmack ^Talk 19:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

p.s. i recently broke 20,000 spelling fixes. yay! i'm trying to make it to 30k before wikimania. ;) JoeSmack ^Talk 19:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that is a lot! I'll run the latest regex tomorrow hopefully, thanks. Martin 19:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks much martin, i really appreciate it. :) JoeSmack ^Talk 19:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Algorithm for creating the namespace names

Hi Martin. Sannse now asked me for AWB support for Wikia. I hope you don't mind if I try tweaking MWB for that. I just started thinking how to handle that zoo of wikis.

While thinking, I had the following idea I'd like to share with you:

I was thinking about the question: How can we find out the names of the namespaces of a given wiki automatically?

Then I found this algorithm (examples in paranteses):

• Take the name of the wiki (http://fi.wikipedia.org).
• Navigate to that address with the browser and note the address of the html redirect (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etusivu).
• Delete from the end of that URL up to the last slash (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/)
• Add "Special:Export/0" to the URL (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/0) and navigate to that URL

The URL seems to be redirected to the correct name for the special page for exporting pages in all wikis and tries to export the page 0 (it doesn't matter if that page exists or not). For the fi wikipedia this gives an interesting xml output that contains:

<namespaces>
<namespace key="-2">Media</namespace>
<namespace key="-1">Toiminnot</namespace>
<namespace key="0"/>
<namespace key="1">Keskustelu</namespace>
<namespace key="2">Käyttäjä</namespace>
<namespace key="3">Keskustelu käyttäjästä</namespace>
<namespace key="4">Wikipedia</namespace>
<namespace key="5">Keskustelu Wikipediasta</namespace>
<namespace key="6">Kuva</namespace>
<namespace key="7">Keskustelu kuvasta</namespace>
<namespace key="8">MediaWiki</namespace>
<namespace key="9">MediaWiki talk</namespace>
<namespace key="10">Malline</namespace>
<namespace key="11">Keskustelu mallineesta</namespace>
<namespace key="12">Ohje</namespace>
<namespace key="13">Keskustelu ohjeesta</namespace>
<namespace key="14">Luokka</namespace>
<namespace key="15">Keskustelu luokasta</namespace>
</namespaces>

And the url (redirected) is http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toiminnot:Export/0.

Just a wild idea. I will see if I can do something with that on MWB. Sorry for abusing your talk page ;) --Ligulem 22:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'm not 100% sure what you want to do with this page, it is useful for knowing what the namespaces called, but that isn't such a big deal, as they all use the english names under the hood. Also, many different wikis have all sorts of little differences between them that makes working with them a bit of a pain. Martin 23:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Well I was thinking about a replacement for hard-code things like this. Especially for code snippets like strcategoryns = "Categoria:", which can be replaced by using key="14" from the above output because all wikis use key="14" for the name of the category namespace. I know that "under the hood" there are generic names, but for generating the URL's to access pages the local names must be used. If you know of an elegant way to access that mapping from generic names to localized names then I would be interested to know. There are some variables for use in wikitext at m:Help:Variable. But they are not much of a help to extract the namespace names. --Ligulem 09:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Uupps. Stupid me. I'm wrong. Apologies. For the URLs the English names can be used for all namespaces (example: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Management is automatically redirected to http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Management). Very interesting. I wonder why we need variables like strcategoryns = "Categoria:" at all... --Ligulem 09:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes because, for example, when a user loads up a list of articles we need to be able to identify what "Categoria:" means, and also, when re-categorising, we also need to know what they call their category namespace. These things aren't important for basic functionality, but are still needed. At least that page is good for finding out what all the namespaces are. Martin 09:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh. I forgot. Of course yes. I should think first before typing ;). Many thanks for reading and replying. Have a nice day! --Ligulem 09:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Reply

1) I can't see how it matters much if one quickly catches the mistake.

2) Saying that my writing on a topic that I am quite familiar with and very fond of, that I tried to carefully create for the benefit of anyone honestly wanting to learn about the topic, is a "mess", I consider to be a personal attack. I try to be very careful to not start making personal attacks in Wikipedia, because, yeah, they do not serve the community. But, I absolutely *love* a personal attack war, and once someone starts, I feel fully justified in responding in kind, and, man, it is fun for me.

3) If you have a reference for this, then I'll believe you, and I'll completely defer to your preferences for "different from" accordingly, but neither of you two have been able to offer me such a reference, which makes me doubt one's existence (especially since you have referenced other things.)

Best, 24.59.124.238 13:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

1) Yes, it doesn't matter that much as you reverted yourself quickly, but the point is that you clearly didn't look at what you reverted, that is a serious thing to be doing.

2) What the hell? I said it was a mess because you re-introduced a typo that I just fixed!, you called me a "bozo" because you couldn't even be bothered to look at what I did!, and you are offended! My god!

3) Why are you pushing this point? I said I don't care enough to revert/argue/whatever, but you seem to want to argue about it anyway. Wikipedia policy is to use the spelling of the fist editor. the Manual of style says on spelling "If all else fails, consider following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor", but like I have said at least twice, I really don't care that much whether we use American/British, the only reason I changed it initially was because I thought it stop the slow-revert war going on in that page.

Also, please log in. I'll assume good faith and assume that you have just forgotten, but others would just jump to the conclusion that you are User:HalfDome incognito. Martin 13:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

1) Hm, okay. I'm not going to claim for a second that I didn't make a mistake, and I obviously knew that long before you said anything. I think that I fully rectified the mistake, including with my edit summary. I think it is ridiculous to claim that this is a "serious thing". The only possible value I can see for you to even bring this up is you desparately needing something to attack me with.

2) Honestly, I think you are going to be quite hard pressed to claim that "clean up your mess" is not a personal attack.

3) Oh my... "pushing this point"? "argue"? I asked you to reference something that you claimed. How is that in any way a "point" or even "argumentative"? BUT, since you did give me your reference, I can look it over and note the following: You left out the rest of that sentence. The full sentence reads, "If all else fails, consider following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor (that is, not a stub) to the article." Before I got to the article, it was quite short and even had a stub note on it. I tried to respect as much of the pre-existing content as I could when I started editing, but at least 90% of the final product had to be mine. And you can note that in the four months since, the only change to my writing (aside from the "different from" stuff) has been your spelling correction. It seems to me that I would fit the description of being the first major contributor.

I usually browse with cookies disabled, and it makes logging in be somewhat of an inconvenience. That is why, for a long time, I didn't use an account. However, once my ISP stated changing my IP address, I found that it was harder to keep track of what I had done, so I started logging in for changes I wanted to keep track of. This quick little revert wasn't worth the effort, though, and since you started communicating to me with my IP address, it seemed that for consistency sake I should stick with it.

Cheers, 24.59.124.238 15:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Please just leave me alone. Martin 15:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. Consider it done. 24.59.124.238 17:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Still on break

Thought I'd drop by and say hi. I have a lot of Real Life stuff going on still but will be back soon.

-- That Guy, From That Show! 15:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Small but important suggestion for AWB dev build

GREAT work - I love that it shows the replacements in the edit summary now! F..... AWESOME WORK! However, you need to use [WP:AWB|AWB] as the new text can cut off the link to AWB, as here. I have tons of edits using this new feature if you want to see some real-world testing. Thanks! --mboverload@ 04:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Addon: Remove the \b from the edit summaries as well, pretty useless I think. THX! --mboverload@ 04:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't see a difference, but it works fine =D --mboverload@ 10:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Lets just talk on my page. --mboverload@ 10:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Use more descriptive SVN change logs =D --mboverload@ 08:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Categories for deletion

I just re-restored this page you speedily deleted. The prior speedy delete of this page was overturned on WP:DRV with the requirements that it be relisted on WP:RFD (Where it is now). One of the major complaints in the DRV was that the deletions were out of process speedy deletes/premature RFD closures. If you object with this reasoning, please talk page me. Thanks, — xaosflux ^Talk 19:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Good templates

I noticed in the histories that you are familiar with both Template:Goodtypes and Template:Good (economics). I'm wondering if the one can be transcluded into the other and some other connotations covered as well. Please the discussion ... never mind CQ 12:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Fritz Mannheimer

Thanks for putting back the categories. I accidentally deleted them. Mowens35 14:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

72.130.18.78 using cracked version of AutoWikiBrowser?

The IP 72.130.18.78 (talk · contribs) seems to have made an edit using AWB. I thought that AWB could not be used by anonymous users? The IP has only made one edit so far. --Ixfd64 18:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Its prabable that a legitimate editor just became logged out between loading the page and saving the edit. thanks Martin 18:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit, including idiots

How do I get this in that postition (near Wikimania registration) on my user page? The one and only Cliff 02:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Try something like:

<span id="coordinates">From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anybody can edit, including idiots.</span>

Martin 07:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Bell polynomials

I may have totally missed the point, but the section numbering does not appear any different to me whether that heading is there or not, maybe whatever bug it was has been fixed? Martin 15:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

No, you're wrong. Look CAREFULLY at the section numbering. Without that header, it numbers a subsection as if it were a main section. Michael Hardy 15:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Personally I would consider it wrong now, as "Convolution identity" is now a sub of the "definition" which doesn't make sense to me, but I'll respect your wishes. Martin 15:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Convolution identity" can be considered an appropriate subsection of "Definition" because it introduces another characterization of the Bell polynomials, and, at least from the point of view of deductive logic, either of the two equivalent characterizations could be taken to be the definition. I'm going to think about how to edit the article to make this clear. Michael Hardy 17:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Unstubby stubs empty

I cleaned the last of the list out. Will there be another dump at some point or will the page disappear? Cheers! Stormbay 16:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

IThere is another project doing the same thing, so there won't be any need soon. I also want to automate/semi-automate the process to get it all done quicker. Martin 20:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Good! Thanks! Stormbay

Martin put in automatic stub removal in the latest dev release. He's fastzorz =D --mboverload@ 21:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

AWB question

I've noticed some slow down on my computer when using this program, why does it take so much CPU? FullMetal Falcon 01:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

First, what'your OS and system specs? Second, what's the version of AWB you're using. And third, what settings do you have? --mboverload@ 02:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

AWB forced update

Can you allow older versions to be used please? Re-downloading new versions day after day can get a bit annoying.

Other than that keep up the good work.--Andeh 19:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Each version is available for at least a week normally, so it's not too bad, it is also important that everybody uses an up-to-date version. Martin 19:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is it so important that only the latest version is used? Unless there's some exploits that you don't mention I can't see why it's so important. I wouldn't mind it bugging me that there's a new version when I run it.--Andeh 00:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Because your use of the software doesnt only affect you (as a normal piece of software would) it affects the whole community, so it is important that everything is done as properly as it can be. Martin 08:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not a bad idea: how difficult would it be for AWB to look at the "Check Page" to see if a later version has been enabled and throw up a MsgBox to that effect? —Phil | Talk 11:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:AWB

===>A trifling matter, really But annoying nonetheless. I was directed to you from here. If you can help me out, please respond there or my talk page. Thanks. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 01:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

A barnstar, what more could you hope for?

THREE barnstars!
These are all in a bunch because I have been thinking about these for a long time, so please don't consider it me just dumping a bunch of awards on you. It's like getting your paycheck held for 3 months, but without the having to eat ramen from a tin can over a hobo fire part.

I present you this for putting in a crazy idea that I had and uploading it within I think 24 hours. You are really here to help others and I salute you. -mboverload@

For your truly endless work on AWB. I watch how much you do each day though SVN and it's great. You're invaluable, and I really do mean that Martin. -mboverload@

I award you the WikiMedal for Janitorial Services for letting so many editors do stuff that would usually be a pain in the ass. -mboverload@

--mboverload@ 11:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Non-official barnstar

The AWB Barnstar For all the features you stick in AWB and the design. -- mboverload@ 11:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised lists

Hi, just in case you don't have it on your watchlist. User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised lists is finished. Please don't make a new one, cause I am starting to really hate lists. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I want you to know that there are a handful of lists that you may want to add to the Uncategorized lists page in the Category needed page. I think that if you were to put them there it would not only help us with the backlog, the lists might find categories easier. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 22:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Dev version borked

Revision 105 is the last working version. I couldn't find your email listed anywhere, sorry. --mboverload@ 20:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Click "Email this user". What is wrong with the newest dev verion, in reality it shouldn't be expected to always work, but I thought it should be at the moment. Martin 21:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I sent you a few emails, one of which has an urgent dev bug. --mboverload@ 08:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Email

Your email address in wikipedia must be broken, I haven't gotten any email responses. --mboverload@ 01:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC) pssssst, get on IRC if you can, thx =D --mboverload@ 08:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Timeline

What's your timeline for the next release with the new find and replace system? As you know (hehe) it uses a new settings file syntax, and I develop on your dev versions, so if you have any idea of a release date that would be great. As you know the older versions of AWB won't read my new file.

Also, if you need me to put up regextypofix on a static page (e.g. www.mboverloadspage.com/regextypofix.xml) I can do that for the new framework. I also have an idea. Let me put a message into the file. AWB will read that message whenever it updates and then display it. =P I'm really proud that you're at least throwing around the idea of incorporating RegExTypoFix =D --mboverload@ 04:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Feature suggestion: When making a new find and replace line have it inherit the settings above it. I have to check case sensitive and regex each time. This is very minor, don't worry about it. --mboverload@ 04:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Feature suggestion: In the find and replace dialogue have a checkmark box. If you check it, after you type something into the "find" section it will automatically add on \b to each end --mboverload@ 04:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Feature suggestion: In the context menu of the edit box in AWB have an option to open it in an external editor. With the amazing abilities of Microsoft Word or OpenOffice this could be a good feature for anyone who is super-dedicated to completely fixing the article. RegExTypoFix doesn't do grammar checking or anything even remotely advanced as what you can do when the spellchecking is user-controlled. --mboverload@ 04:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Latest dev and RETF

RETF isn't working in the latest dev version, thought I should let you know. --mboverload@ 21:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually I think it doesn't work period. It seems to me that it's skipping all the articles, like it does when you skip if it has this text in it function. --mboverload@ 22:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It still has all the duplicates that stop it working properly. When the "Skip if no typo fixed" option is on it should skip everything that doesnt have a typo, with the option off it doesn't doesn't skip anything. Martin 22:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, even with the fixed list, just committed it, try it out yourself. --mboverload@ 22:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

IRC --mboverload@ 08:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

New section on AWB article

Where should this go, if you think it should be included? Feel free to do anything to it, I'm really not sure where it should go, if it should be included. --mboverload@ 20:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that's good. --mboverload@ 21:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I always forget to update the manual with new stuff. Martin 21:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that's wierd. I moved the retf section down, but in the history is shows that I undid your change. Sorry, I have no idea how that happened without an edit conflict. wtf... --mboverload@ 21:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I guessed, seems to happen occasionally. Martin 21:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Possibily simple feature suggestion

Tell me if it already acts this way somehow: When you select "Skip article when no replacement made" or "Skip when no typo made", how can I make it so it doesn't skip if only one of those makes a replacement? I'm scared to edit and burn though result lists if I'm skipping some. --mboverload@ 13:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This is not possible, it would be very complex to implement/use due to the number of different features it would apply to. Martin 14:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to make sure we are on the same page, I recognize that my question isn't worded well. If I select both "skip when no typo" and "skip when no replacement", it will skip all articles that don't replace BOTH a typo and a replacement. Is that what you read my question to be? I'm not trying to be anal, I promise =D --mboverload@ 23:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's what i meant as well. Martin 09:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

List of notable alumni from New Trier High School and New Trier High School

Hello Bluemoose,

I'm hopping that I could get your opinion or suggestions on the pages I've listed in the heading. Some weeks ago, I copyedited the New Trier High School article. During this process, I decided to move the List of notable alumni to it's own page because it was very long and begining to dominate the article. In the school's main article, I simply left a link to list of alumni. Now, a large number of pictures of alumni have been added to the two articles and I'm concerned about whether or not they should be there. My gut feeling tells me that they are unnecessary and perhaps detrimental to the two articles, and may not be appropriate since all are copyrighted images already on other articles. However, I didn't feel comfortable just removing them for some reason. So, I decided to seek out a more experienced Wikipedian for advice. I'm happy to do whatever cleanup myself, I'm just looking for a second opinion before I do anything. What do you think? Thank you for any help you can give me.--Dekkanar 12:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I don't see a problem having the images there, though i can understand why you might, I would raise the issue on the talk page (and possibly the talk page of the main school article) and see what response there is, otherwise: Be bold! Martin 13:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dead-end pages/A-K

In the last few weeks/days I went through the A-K list of dead-end pages and finished it today. In my opinion, it certainly would be worthwhile to update the lists because I encountered A LOT of articles that were no longer dead-ends (estimate: 40% during the last few days). And some of them had been wikified quite some time ago. I have no clue as to what is involved in updating the list, but I expect the same (a lot of wikified pages) will be true for L-Z.

This was also posted at Wikipedia_talk:Dead-end_pages#Updating_this_list. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 13:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'll update it again as soon as there is a fresh database dump, which probably will be fairly soon. Martin 13:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Martin, I actually had another question for you regarding the number of links in an article. As a reseacher, I would be interested in obtaining an overview of how many articles have a given number of links. Meaning a list like this:

• X articles have 0 links
• Y articles have 1 links
• Z articles have 2 links
• Etc....

Do you have any suggestion on how to generate such a list or can you help me with that? Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 09:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply Martin, the statistics page contains a lot of useful information, but indeed I would be interested in a more detailed analysis of the number of links per page. It would be no problem to have them in bands of say 5 (1-5 links, 5-10 links etc...) if that makes things easier for you. Only the number of articles without links should be alone then (so not articles with 0-5 links combined, but 0 and 1-5 separate). Then the list would look like this:

• X articles have 0 links
• Y articles have 1-5 links
• Z articles have 6-10 links
• Etc....

I assume that is would you suggested, is that right? Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 13:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I moved the list from my talk page to a user subpage. I'll have a look at it later and let you know if I would be interested in anything else. BTW: pages with over 1999 links? That is a huge amount. Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 14:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Enforce inclusion of categories

Hi Martin - I've made a proposal that would put some of your projects out of business, so I'm inviting your views on it. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

RETF

Sorry =( I just commited what I hope is a fix, can you check it for me? --mboverload@ 19:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

it's ok, it wasn't wrong, i just wanted to clear it up, thanks. Martin 21:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a timeline on the next release? I'm not concerned or anything (I have the latest build all the time, lol). If you don't tha's fine, I'd just like to know before so I can stick in the latest fixes and additions before you compile and upload. --mboverload@ 00:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully fairly soon, i'm a bit busy at the moment, but i'll cech with you first whenever it is. Martin 10:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Bug report

It says Typo xml does not exist in current directory when I attempt to turn RETF on using a settings file. Try it yourself.

1. Start AWB
2. Turn on RETF
3. Save settings file
4. Close AWB then reopen
5. Load the settings file

And you will not be able to ever turn on RETF until you restart AWB. Even File > Reset settings doesn't work. --mboverload@ 06:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

hhhhmmmm, ok thanks, i probably wouldn't have noticed until it got released. Martin 10:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

This is more serious than I thought. Loading any settings file will screw it up. --mboverload@ 10:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Nothing that hasn't been released is serious ;-) Martin 10:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

But *GASP* I'll....I'll...have to use the CIVILIAN version! =D --mboverload@ 10:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, its fixed now, i'll release this version later today (probably in around 8 hours or so), so make sure any new typos are ready by then. thanks Martin 11:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Was just about to strike it out, thanks. I'll get around to tidying it up --mboverload@ 11:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

oh yeah, can you enable the latest version? =D --mboverload@ 11:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

lol, I just went to look at the diffs to see where you changed the version. I found it, went to the check page, then realized it was protected. hehe. --mboverload@ 11:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok I have committed my chages to SVN. I'm too sleepy to push the version number back to an enabled version, so please give it a quick test. Thanks =D --mboverload@ 13:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but you can always test the debug version, that doesn't check the version number. Martin 15:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Uncategorised articles

Hi, there is a discussion here about using a bot to tag all uncategorised articles with the {{uncat}} tag. It seems to be too much work for a bot searching through the million+ articles. But would it work if a list of articles is taken from the datebase dump and that list will be feed into a bot? A bit like your uncategorised good articles list. And related, if you're interested, please look at this proposol here. Wikipedia:Enforce inclusion of categories. Also, if you are still on wikibreak, ignore this message. :) Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 11:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Nitcentral article

Hi. There is a motion afoot to delete the article on Phil Farrand's website, Nitcentral, as you can see here. If you have an opinion on it, can you chime in? Thanks. Nightscream 17:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

AWB scare off template

Could you create a template which if added to an article AWB automatically ignores it or gives a warning? For example {{noawb|ask permission before editing with AWB please - Andeh}} gives the custom warning to the user using AWB?

AWB is getting used by a lot of Wikipedians so it could come across any user space or something you just don't want AWB editing for whatever reason. What do you think? Thanks.--Andeh 21:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and is duplicate articles on articles list a known bug? :| --Andeh 21:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

In general it's the other way around - AWB users should ask the userspace owner before editing their pages. --mboverload@ 22:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Medium bug

Try converting a user page to talk page and you'll see what happens. Talk:User:Mboverload --mboverload@ 01:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't get that happening at all, is there a way to reliably reproduce the error. Martin 09:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Changes

Can you give me a quick overview of the new changes, and what I should do now? --mboverload@ 22:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, so how do you allow people to edit that page if it's protected? Should they work on /Typo_development?

I have been getting a few times where AWB will just stop after Saving, and I will have to "start the process" again. This is pretty minor, just wanted to give you a headsup. --mboverload@ 10:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Typos are case sensitive, right? I'm sure they are, but I need to make sure - please respond on my talk page/get on IRC. thx --mboverload@ 07:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Reduced edit summary?

Hi, as RegExTypoFix is growing in popularity it starts taking up the recent changes list. The current edit summary is

• RegExTypoFix Typos: succesful → successful, using AWB

Could it possibly be reduced down to

• RETF Typos: succesful → successful, using AWB

or

• RETF Typos: succesful → successful (AWB

What do you think? I guess you were the right person to ask instead of mboverload, but i'm sure he'll respond anyway. :P --Andeh 11:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

The RegExTypoFix part of the summary is fully customisable, though i think i'll change the default to your suggestion, the last part wouldn't really make sense if it just said AWB, as a lot of people wouldn't know what this meant. Martin 11:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn right. =D The drop-down list of edit summaries is completely customizable by you (and me and Martin can change the default lists and such). I like to boost my own ego and put in "mboverload's RegExTypoFix" some times, hehe --mboverload@ 12:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Martin has changed it per your first suggestion. I think the full name is better, but I'll just change it manually. --mboverload@ 12:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Keep up the good work.--Andeh 12:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut extra HTML from diff view

Brilliant! --mboverload@ 10:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Diff font size

No longer lets me go below 150% --mboverload@ 02:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

whoops, its good having these picked up before it gets released. Martin 12:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos

Hi, thanks for working on Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos, i noticed on a few occasions you have added a ";" to various parts of the find+replace, such as here, having that exrta character will stop the regex working, so be careful not to add it! thanks Martin 13:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, Martin. I'm mystified. Apart from an early addition of "our's", I've been working on early lines only, so how these semicolons can appear so far down in the file I cannot imagine (I edit line 68, and a semicolon appears in each of 768 and 1145!). I didn't even scroll down that far in the edit window.

I think this is likely to be a software glitch, since these semicolons didn't come from my keypresses. I'm using Opera version 9.00, but will try Firefox, and will periodically do a search for ";" to see if any are creeping in. That should indicate whether the blame lies with Opera or with the Mediawiki software...

Sorry to make a nuisance of myself! Euchiasmus 13:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

AWB Bug

Hello. I would like to report a AWB bug. Even if "add all to watchlist" option is unmarked it adds all edited articles to watchlist. However AWB is great help for me. Thanks! - Darwinek 21:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't find this happens, do you have the wikipedia preference enabled to add all articles you edit to your watchlist? Martin 22:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I now found that yes, it was enabled in my preferences. However with version 3.017 I hadn't this problem. - Darwinek 09:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

mb <--> martin

I'll use this section to converse for a bit =D

Is the word attribute for the word, or the misspelling of a word? I think it would be valuable to have it the misspelling of the word. --mboverload@ 12:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

There are multiple misspellings so it can't be that, the misspelling is in the regex, it is important this is the correct spelling so we can sort them properly and easily locate duplicates, which i have done a few already just in the handful that i have been through. Martin 12:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, duhhh, stupid me =D --mboverload@ 12:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

With the letter headings, how am I going to sort the list alphabetically? I have a massive addition of new words coming up. --mboverload@ 12:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

If you have less than ~20 just add them manually, if more then sort them and add the headings back afterwards. Or just make a new section for new additions. They were never in proper alphabetical order before anyway so its not that bad. Without the sections it is very difficult to keep track of where you are, also it will help avoid edit conflicts. On a different note, now i have sorted them alphabetically, it is clear there is an enourmous amount of duplication, I think with a bit of work we should be able to get below 1000 regexes. Martin 12:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Bluebot Request

A couple of months ago, you used Bluebot to prepend {{Architecture}} to the top of all the talk pages in Category:Architects. I recently got a request over on Bot requests saying that bluebot had missed the subcategories when prepending the message and requesting another bot finish the job. Would it be easy to do this with Bluebot? I was trying to do it using AWB, and I was having some difficulty. Thanks, alphaChimp ^laudare 14:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

When i did it before a couple of people moaned that they didnt think the template was appropriate, so i don't really want to get involved with it again. Martin 15:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Uncategorised articles

Hi, regarding your message here. I put up a link in the village pump and some other places. The response, as you can see, was overwhelming... Personally I don't think many people would care about such a massive job. It only helps the encyclopedia. But of course, I am not the one with the bot. :) Also, the consensus in the proposal Wikipedia:Enforce inclusion of categories seems to be going towards automatically adding the uncat tag. Perhaps those two jobs could go together. Garion96 (talk) 01:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

'ere you go!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar I was looking over your userpage and contributions, and I'm amazed you don't have this one yet xD So, in recognition of your many, many, many great edits, here it is – one more for the barn. Cheers! — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 06:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Now you can quit grumbling about it on your userpage :p — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • ER • 09:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Regular user with bot permissions

Greetings; maybe an odd question here. I have the need to replace about a thousand transcluded templates (Lady Aleena requested I assist in moving some WinXP userboxes to a new format); a very simple task, but without automation, it'll still take forever, even with AWB. For such cases, is it possible for a regular user account (such as mine) be allowed auto-save bot capabilities? Thanks for your help. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 10:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You need to have permission to run an automatic bot, see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals. Martin 10:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

I'm still trying to figure out how to format it without messing up the rest of your page! Lawilkin 20:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

I award you this golden barnstar for your tireless work writing and supporting AWB. You're a first-rate developer and you fix bugs and implement new features with an amazing speed. Long may the great work continue! --kingboyk 21:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)