User talk:Bgwhite

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Welcome to my talk page I make plenty of errors - if you are here to complain about a tag or a warning, please assume good faith. If I have erred, don't hesitate to tell me, but being rude will get you nowhere. I will not tolerate any profanity or extreme rudeness. If used in any way, it will be erased and your message not read. Archives Bot archives discussions after 30 days of inactivity into the latest archive Archive 50 • Archive 51 • Archive 52 • Archive 53 • Archive 54 Archive 55 • Archive 56 •Archive 57 • Archive 58 • Archive 59 Archive 60 • Archive 61 • Archive 62 • Archive 63 • Archive 64 Unfortunate edit about no "legendary" Hi, Bgwhite, FYI John Wayne as well as Bruce Lee Legacy, acting style and influences are in full display in respective articles. Please take into consideration the 45 years of Yam Kim-fai and 55 years of Loong Kin Sang already on stage, some more years to come should Loong Kin Sang, the contemporary tier one top-ranked box-office guarantee, choose to. Yam Kim-fai has been a Legend in Cantonese Opera world for close to a century and opened doors for, at least five generations and counting, actresses now to be male leads on stage. Actresses are still dominating even 25 years after her passing. Cantonese Opera Film Century Award, 14th Hong Kong Film Awards was an honor awarded to Yam Kim-fai and accepted by Loong Kin Sang on her behalf in 1995. Google (HK) commemorated the 103th anniversary of Yam Kim-fai's birthday on February 04, 2016 Google Doodle 103rd-birthday Yam Kim-fai Google Doodle shows off 1960's LGBT icon: Cantonese opera legend Yam Kim-fai SCMP updated 04 February, 2016. Loong Kin Sang is the single successor to her mentor's acting style, a "secret" recipe to success that has never been disclosed beyond the one single room in Yam's former home. Her move since turning 70 in 2014 is more than the world of Cantonese Opera could ever hoped for. Those are historically significant performances you removed in such edit. Theyear by year tour information I can find in the article of Madonna who was born only in 1958, just two years before Loong Kin Sang first on stage. For a 55-year veteran performer on stage, Loong Kin Sang has only very few of the huge list of awards and achievements listed. Such awards/achievements were listed with references as per Wikipedia requests. While a pop-singer is receipted world wide and Cantonese opera is mostly a Chinese Art form. I trust the historically significant events listed there are never less important or essential. "Please help to establish notability by citing..." [references please] Revision History of this page Loong Kin Sang Loong Kin Sang was called a Legend by the Press in 1990 already when she received the award as well as opening door for Cantonese opera tour to Caesars Palace of Las Vegas in 1982. Your edit removed such historically significant information as well, unfortunately.207.102.255.36 (talk) 18:59, 18 May 2016 (UTC) 207.102.255.36, your English isn't the greatest and there are some severe writing problems with the article. I can't write in another language, so you are better than I will ever be. The page that covers the following is WP:WEASEL. Here are some phrases I removed: is a famous Cantonese opera performer, known as the legendary Yam Kim Fai's protégée & successor in particular the vocal style Yam Hong (任腔) and natural but with grace and depth acting style. She quickly became Yam Kim Fai's disciple, and was treasured by Yam very much and gained a lot of popularity by acting in various types of Cantonese opera. Only one of these phrases had a reference which was #1. That reference is to a TV schedule and never mention Loong. In both John Wayne and Bruce Lee, only once was "legend" mentioned in each article and both were referenced. In order for the phrases to be included, there must be a reliable reference that mentions Loong was a "legend". I removed the awards sections as there references were to a blog. A more reliable reference is needed. You have much admiration for Loong which is clouding your judgement. Articles are to be neutral, so write in a neutral tone. Take a look at some other Chinese opera performers to get an idea of how an article should be. Performers such as Zhou Xinfang, Ouyang Yuqian or Kwan Hoi-san. I am familiar with Peking opera and have seen several performances. As I don't speak Chinese, what stood out were the costumes and masks. Too bad Chinese opera and Western opera are in a state of decline for the same reasons. Bgwhite (talk) 22:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC) Hi Bgwhite, 1. Please clarify what request you were referring to in your comment below. "You know you have been on Wikipedia too long when you start recognizing names... I've come across the ..., plus I understood Chinese opera in a request today. I need to get a life." 2. Your reply below refers. "I removed the awards sections as there references were to a blog. " Please explain which blog. the only link is to the official award authority That is - 任藝笙輝念濃情 IFPI HKG 2015 List of Best Sales Releases, Classical and Operatic Works Recording (Order in Chinese Stroke Counts). "A more reliable reference is needed." Please suggest one more reliable than the one organization actually gave Loong the award. 3. In order for the phrases to be included, there must be a reliable reference that mentions Loong was a "legend". According to your quote above, you removed is a famous Cantonese opera performer, known as the legendary Yam Kim Fai's protégée & successor The current version actually reads is a Cantonese opera performer, known as Yam Kim Fai's protégée and successor. My understanding is you removed actually: famous, which was an adjective describing Loong, the subject of said article the legendary, which was an adjective describing Yam Kim Fai I have covered Yam Kim Fai already. For Loong as 'famous', please refer to the two reports from local press. http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/entertainment/20151227/bkn-20151227144840017-1227_00862_001.html - Original Ref 13 阿刨率新人演《紫釵記》　劇迷讚不老傳說 【on.cc東網專訊】 Looking perfect as lovers on stage opposite new young talents.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC) http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/entertainment/20160101/bkn-20160101152050007-0101_00862_001.html - Original Ref 14 《紫釵記》全劇　阿刨演繹師父任劍輝派功夫，儼如師父上身般 【on.cc東網專訊】 As if the Legendary Cantonese opera master back alive on stage.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Both started with 粵劇名伶龍劍笙（阿刨）. My translation is 粵劇Cantonese opera 名famous 伶performer 龍Lung 劍Kim 笙Sang (阿Ah 刨Pau). Bing the 粵劇名伶龍劍笙（阿刨) to see how popular that phase is and you will get a few more. [1] gives all those pages online with such wording. 4. Look at the TV Schedule referred. You will see at 18:20 舞台下的龍劍笙 - the name of programme in Chinese. 龍劍笙 is the Chinese name of Loong Kim Sang of Wikipedia. 5. With all due respect, Kwan Hoi-san was a respected member of Cantonese Opera community by seniority as in age not fame. He worked for the legendary Yam Kim Fai in 1940s when Yam's troupe was in Macau, then a colony of Portugal. Kwan was NOT famous until in 1975 TV production "The Legend of the Book and the Sword" (1976) which is also the first line of his Filmography. 6. So much more to explain to you while life is short. What you removed was the work of many editors over a few years in under various environment. That is very unfortunate if you did not understand Cantonese Opera. Difference between Cantonese opera and Chinese opera is way beyond my ability to start explaining to you as well.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2016 (UTC) 207.102.255.36 I can't answer all your questions right now as I'm already late for bed tonight. I'm not doubting what you are saying about Loong. There needs to be very good references in order to put it into Wikipedia. "You know you have been on Wikipedia too long when you start recognizing names... I've come across the ..., plus I understood Chinese opera in a request today. I need to get a life." I was referring that I knew of two relatively obscure topics... A noble family located in Galicaia during the 1500-1600's and Chinese opera. Chinese opera isn't well known in the west. For myself, the word "Request" means a LOT more than this non-answer above. Your silence speaks volume.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Please explain which blog. the only link is to the official award authority You used https://phyllissabrinafan.blogspot.ca as a reference. This website is from a personal blog (zh:網誌). This is not a reliable site because the person can write anything they want. Before you came along the list of References 1. Maybe The Cantonese Opera Diva January 01, 2016 Australia 2. 舞台下的龍劍笙 November 14, 2015 Hong Kong 3. "Princess Chang Ping". The Illuminated Lantern. Retrieved 26 December 2010. 4. Tragedy of the Poet King(1968) Sin Fung Ming Production 01/30/1968 5. Laugh in the Sleeve (1975) Hing Fut Film Company Production 02/08/1975 6. Princess Chang Ping (1976) Golden Harvest Productions and Golden Phoenix 01/30/1976 7. The Legend of the Purple Hairpin (1977) Golden Phoenix Films Production 02/12/1977 8. Women Pioneer in Hong Kong, population Seven million, the Debut guest 七百萬人的先鋒 April 07, 2012 Hong Kong 9. HKAPA Curtain call December 23, 2015 Crew of new young talents 10. HKAPA Curtain call December 24, 2015 Crew of new young talents 11. HKAPA Curtain call December 29, 2015 Art Director Yam Bing-Yee 12. HKAPA Curtain call December 30, 2015 Art Director Yam Bing-Yee 13. 阿刨率新人演《紫釵記》　劇迷讚不老傳說 【on.cc東網專訊】 Looking perfect as lovers on stage opposite new young talents. 14. 《紫釵記》全劇　阿刨演繹師父任劍輝派功夫，儼如師父上身般 【on.cc東網專訊】 As if the Legendary Cantonese opera master back alive on stage. 15. 任藝笙輝念濃情 IFPI HKG 2015 List of Best Sales Releases, Classical and Operatic Works Recording (Order in Chinese Stroke Counts) Your rude unfortunate edit removed the link to two pieces of local press report as well as the IFPI HKG 2015 page of award winners while the HKAPA Curtain call links were as per the request already covered above.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC) For other statements, you had no reference for. I good example of references would be too look at Loong's Chinese Wikipedia article, zh:龍劍笙. It looks to have alot of references. You said you do not speak Chinese but not whether if you read Chinese. According to your said comment above regarding the TV Schedule (at 18:20) led to my taking it for granted you do not read Chinese at all. However, I trust you can still read the edit history of zh:龍劍笙. So, please look where you go regarding this topic of Cantonese opera and more specifically this actress.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC) I'll add more tomorrow. Bgwhite (talk) 09:11, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Hi Bgwhite, I am sure you have a life to live and now understand you took too much of my time to finish the zh:龍劍笙 for reasons or circumstances beyond what you has answered so far. Articles you so far suggested are either 1. with all due respect a washed-up, mean but true description, performer 2. not related to Cantonese opera 3. my work for the last three weeks on this particular subject but only 60% complete at best Loong made four movies in her life so far. They all have over $1m box-office on record out-there. Her 1976 movie was definitely on the top ten list and box-office was over $3m. Totally FOUR opera movie was made ever since the collapse in 1969-70 of such. Loong was the male lead for three of these four while Kwan left Cantonese opera and started to work for TV productions. One was on the rise since 1972 and best reflected in the charitable event raising fund for the tragedy happened in June 18, (618) 1972. The who's who in such event were always the best reflection of their status. Loong was there playing second fiddle to mentor Yam, in a bright yellow turtle neck pull over and navy blue skirt, and leading the 5 classmates all singing back up at the back. That picture is ICONIC both for Cantonese opera and the Hong Kong in 1970s. That's how Loong was introduced to the wider audience by modern technology. People said that one should stop digging when in a hole. Not sure where it came from but sounds very wise to me. Meanwhile, I have lots more in my head to add be included in the zh:龍劍笙 you referred to.207.102.255.36 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" Babies have been thrown out with the YET TO BE identified bathwater. Two weeks already and still no answer at all to questions raised as to the logic and the reasoning as justifications for such allegations and accusations.207.102.255.36 (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Break 207.102.255.36 Either you are not understanding me or your ignoring me... I'm not disagreeing with you about Loong's status as an Opera performer. I'm not disagreeing with you that she is legendary. This has nothing to do about Loong herself. This is about how to do an article on Wikipedia. We cannot go around saying "legendary" without a reference to back it up. We don't go around saying "legendary" in every paragraph. We are to be neutral and just give the facts. If a reference says she was "legendary" then make sure to use a reference to source that she is legendary. As I mentioned before on the John Wayne and Bruce Lee articles, both have "legendary" once in the article and it is referenced. This needs to happen in Loong's article. Your English is not the best. That is fine, but there are parts of the article that doesn't make sense in English. I'm trying to edit some of those parts so they are more understandable. Again, look at the articles Zhou Xinfang, Ouyang Yuqian and Kwan Hoi-san. This has nothing to do how they were as performers or how they compare to Loong. This has to do on how the articles are written. These are examples of opera performers who have good articles. Use these as a guide on how to write Loong's article. Look at zh:龍劍笙. This is has more information on Loong that might be used on the English article. It also has references. Bgwhite (talk) 08:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-23 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes MathML/SVG is now the default <math> rendering mode on Wikimedia projects. [2][3] Changes this week The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week. [4] The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar). Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC) Reference errors on 6 June Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that some edits performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. They are as follows: On the Yemeni rial page, your edit caused a cite error (help). (Fix | Ask for help) On the Esteban de Bilbao Eguía page, your edit caused a cite error (help). (Fix | Ask for help) Please check these pages and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC) Engineering page I have edited the page please don't give reasons that the references are fake. They are not you can check them out, these details that I have given are not mentioned on the real page of the university and a lot of people want to know about engineering ranking that is the reason I have added the page so that people don't waste a lot of time searching all over the internet to find a schools engineering ranking. I have compiled them up for the people. if you think that I have misquoted something and my reference is wrong you can tell me I will correct it but please don't redirect it. None of this stuff that I have added about the college of engineering is present on the real page Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SS8792 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 7 June 2016 (UTC) SS8792 There are fake references. <ref><sup>[[1]]</sup></ref> is not a reference. It is fake. The entire last half of the article had these. In addition there are dead links as references. For example, the reference for Iowa State is classified as a Doctoral Research University ... is dead. For a new article, having dead refs is unacceptable. I've removed everything that had fake or dead refs. Do not revert or add any info without a valid reference. Bgwhite (talk) 21:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC) Edit to One Degree Solar (company) As a note - the recent edit to One Degree Solar (company) that you removed was a wikipedia citation from the page referencing the talk page. If you look at the talk page, it includes an email to their customer rep on the specs I cited. I know this is awful practice, but I can't think of a good way to cite this info if it isn't included on their site or other web pages. Shaded0 (talk) 00:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC) I did a quick search on this and it looks like the standard approach is not to use emails as sources - per the original research policy. Shaded0 (talk) 00:40, 8 June 2016 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources/Archive_19#Emails.3F Shaded0 A Wikipedia talk page is just like a forum... anybody can write anything and is self published by the person writing. It is not reliable. Any article or article talk page cannot be used as a ref except in an article about Wikipedia and that too has limitations. Bgwhite (talk) 04:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Bot's edit summary Hi, re [5], please use a shortcut rather than a link which exceeds the maximum length of the edit summary. Hope this helps, – Fayenatic London 13:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Maybe WT:WCAG. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC) @Fayenatic london and Redrose64: In 99% of the cases, the edit summary is just fine, see [6]. It barfs if the article's name and section's name are really long. Bgwhite (talk) 21:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC) It breaks if it includes a section name over 14 characters. Can it omit the section name? – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Fayenatic london I don't see where that is an option with AWB. I've changed one of the links in the edit summary per Redrose's suggestion. Bgwhite (talk) 21:48, 8 June 2016 (UTC) OK, thanks, that should help. I guess one of us could pursue an AWB enhancement request, but I don't think it's worth it. – Fayenatic London 22:48, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Homer B. Roberts Hello Bgwhite. You said that you don't see a copyvio at Homer B. Roberts. How is it not a copyvio of this? Roberts sought and obtained ... until his death in 1952. is directly copied among other issues with copied phrases and close paraphrasing. Thanks for taking another look. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC) JJMC89 Thanks for copyvio tool, didn't know about that. It looks like three paragraphs (2 large, one small) were a direct copy. Either removing or fixing those two and they will be fine. Bgwhite (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Reference errors on 8 June Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows: On the Sterling High School (Houston) page, your edit caused a broken reference name (help). (Fix | Ask for help) Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC) Template:Bots I have read the instructions and there is nothing that I can see that says this was an illegal addition. The code was added because you and BG19bot repeatedly caused errors in the infobox. I can understand you making an error the first time, but it happened three times,[7][8][9] requiring both Kindros and I to have to fix those errors. An error once is understandable, but the same error three times is unacceptable. You've blamed AWB, but ultimately the editor is responsible for edits made using AWB. Your fix, to remove the ref, was not appropriate in this case, it should have been commented out at the worst, as the url used was valid, it was wiki software that couldn't parse the url. --AussieLegend (✉) 13:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC) AussieLegend, it looks like the URL had a curly brace character in it, which is apparently not allowed in WP. See Help:Link#Disallowed_characters for instructions on how to substitute percent-encoded characters in URLs. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC) Jonesey95 Thanks, but that has already been fixed.[10] --AussieLegend (✉) 19:12, 9 June 2016 (UTC) AussieLegend Yes, you fixed it, but then you added the {{bots}} tag. Stated at the top of {{Bots}} page are the following instructions: Avoid using the template as a blunt instrument Address the root problem with the bot owner or bot community Remove the template tag once the underlying problem has been resolved. You never once contacted me. You used the template as a blunt instrument. You added it after the problem was resolved. I was emailed by a WMF programmer that you had issues with the bot on the article. This is how I found out. I tried using the URL and it went nowhere. Curly braces are not allowed in a URL, this is an internet standard, not just wiki software. Illegal, dead link, curly brace problem... I deleted it and left in the edit summary dead link. This was the only thing I did manually. I never said a thing about blaming AWB for this. A bot owner cannot know if the bot is causing problems unless somebody tells them. You never told me. It is your responsibility to say something is wrong, then at that point, it becomes my responsibility to fix it. I never blamed AWB, I stated why it happened in the edit summary. Next time you have a problem with any bot, tell the bot owner first. Bgwhite (talk) 21:30, 9 June 2016 (UTC) You never once contacted me - I'm oh so sorry. My wife is in hospital and my time is somewhat restricted so I have to prioritise. I was trying to fix the problem another way prior to contacting you, because you weren't around to do anything, and something needed to be done quickly, as you had introduced the same error on the same page 3 times. You added it after the problem was resolved. - The errors that you introduced were not related to the url, which was in one field. The errors were in unrelated fields, and that problem didn't seem to be resolved as you kept coming back over a two day period making the same error. I tried using the URL and it went nowhere. - If you copy and paste it, it works fine. When you do that you realise there is a problem somewhere but since the url works, it doesn't look like it's the url. I deleted it and left in the edit summary dead link. - Not exactly. The first edit summary by BG19bot was "WP:CHECKWIKI error fix. Broken bracket. Do general fixes if a problem exists. - using AWB". That doesn't explain why you were changing valid parameters. The second summary (by you) was "(red doesn't work, typo(s) fixed: Janurary → January using AWB)". Again, this does not explain why you were changing valid parameters. And "red"? The third edit summary, again by the bot, was "WP:CHECKWIKI error fix. Broken bracket. Do general fixes if a problem exists. -". That change didn't touch the url, it just broke the valid parameters.[11] "dead link" was not used in any of the summaries. It is your responsibility to say something is wrong - It's the responsibility of every editor not to make the same error over and over again, which you and your bot continued to do. When you see a bot make an error, you assume it's a one off, especially when the bot is one you see almost every day. When the bot owner then comes along and makes the same error, you assume it's a coincidence. When the bot comes along again and makes the same error, well then it seems like a good time to let the owner know. The problem was, at the time I added the template, you hadn't edited in over 3 hours, and you didn't edit again for another 11 hours. I didn't know when you or the bot would return so I had to protect the article from more errors. I never blamed AWB - What you said was "The bad area_footnote parameter cause AWB (not individual bot) to think infobox ended there.". So there, you were placing the blame on AWB for thinking the infobox ended. Next time you have a problem with any bot, tell the bot owner first. - A "please" would be nice. Please do not make the same error repeatedly in the same error. When editors attempt to stop you making more errors, please do not accuse them of illegal acts. Please always assume good faith. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC) AussieLegend Sorry for reverting your message, I thought you were someone else. The bot and manual edits are two different things. You keep thinking they are the same thing, they are not. Please separate them in your mind. Bot I get a list every day of over 2,000 articles with errors. On a majority of them, I run the bot. On the second day, The "error" was reintroduced, so the article appeared on the list again. It is impossible to know if the bot caused an error. This is why it is your responsibility to tell me. I need people's help in telling me. You never told me, so the bot came by again. Manual The bot didn't "fix" the bracket problem so I came by manually. This is about the link and the link only. As I said, I tried the link, even copy/paste and even in a different browser. The link never worked for me. I didn't willy nilly delete it. Seeing that it was an illegal URL and didn't work, I removed it. I removed it a second time because it still didn't work. Only when you changed the URL, was it fixed. This was an inadvertent error on your part. Only when Jonzey mentioned it was an illegal URL, do you know the link was bad. If you saw an illegal URL that went nowhere, you would have deleted it too. If I commented it out, you would have undone my edit anyway because you thought it was a good URL and I still would have came by again. Don't keep blaming me for this one. I never blamed AWB I was telling you why the BOT made its bad edit. I never blamed AWB for my edit. You added it after the problem was resolved. True, I can see why you thought that way... understandable. Still you didn't follow the instructions. When editors attempt to stop you making more errors, please do not accuse them of illegal acts. You did inadvertently and illegally add the {{bot}} template by not following one instruction. There is still no excuse for not contacting me after adding the bot template. You kept accusing me of: Blaming my actions on AWB. Making the same errors, when in fact my manual edits were correct. Accusing me of knowing the bot was making bad edits. Assuming good faith is a two-way street... You haven't show one once of good faith. All of this would have been adverted if you had contacted me and not assuming the worst. Bgwhite (talk) 06:03, 10 June 2016 (UTC) Duke of Valentinois Hello Bgwhite, I had fixed that reference not realizing that it was a source that mirrored a wiki article, Monaco succession crisis of 1918. I have no sources for that title and have no special interest there since what I cover mostly are early Middle Age people from the Iberian Peninsula and if you check my contributions, you'll see that I am very meticulous about adding reliable sources and references. As you can see in this edit from April, I removed what I saw was clear manipulation, trying to insert himself as the current title holder. He has done this in many of the other articles which had to be fixed or deleted. I think he is intent on this and see no other worthwhile contribution to this or any other wiki project since he has a one-track mind and purpose. While I'm not the one to say who should be allowed to participate here, if he continues editing it will be necessary to monitor each and every contribution he makes. Do what you think is best for the project. Best regards, --Maragm (talk) 05:17, 10 June 2016 (UTC) @Maragm and Kuru: Here's the diff of all his work on the article. For Kuru: Surpise, a Borgia family. He's done alot of Borgia articles that have been deleted or reverted. Many were made up and had him as the current Duke. He's been doing the same thing on Spanish Wikipedia and has been blocked there. He's already been blocked on English Wikipedia for one month for bad refs. He's adding quotes to the article and the source is http://www.liquisearch.com. That is a search engine and not reliable. https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu could go either way. It is written by students with Prof help. He seems to be adding alot of quotes. Not sure what the French paragraphs are for, but he's done that before on other articles and it was for filler. He's been reverted 11 times for bad refs on just this article. I don't think this is a case of not understanding. Maragm states it clearly above what is going on. Maragm is the one that has suffered the most trying to keep an eye on him. What's best for Maragm's sanity is for him to be blocked. It's been three months, I don't remember how many articles and warned or reverted for bad refs atleast 50 times. Bgwhite (talk) 06:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC) For @Kuru:'s information, here's the diff of when I reported him in April. Besides adding unreliable and/or primary sources, in some cases he manipulates the source to state what it does not. I'm not the only one who has complained or reverted his edits. Re this particular title, I would revert to the version before he started editing the article, such as this one. I cannot help out since I have no references or knowledge about this particular title. --Maragm (talk) 07:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC) Inter-Collegiate Sailing Association Thanks for writing. I'll try to solve the issue with the Table of Contents (TOC). I find it odd to have two history related sections ("History" and "A Brief History of Inter-Collegiate Fleet Racing") in the article, so I'm trying to improve the sections.--Banderas (talk) 08:46, 11 June 2016 (UTC) Banderas Boy, it looks alot better now than before you arrived. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 05:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Move page Requesting to move the article Anupama E Parameswaran to Anupama Parameswaran, which is restricted for creation. It is her commonly known name and per WP:RECOGNIZABLE. --Charles Turing (talk) 18:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC) Charles Turing I'll take a closer look tomorrow. Anupama Parameswaran is salted because of repeatedly being recreated after being speedy deleted. A look at some refs show them to bad because they don't mention her. But, there are some newer refs listed. Bgwhite (talk) 05:45, 13 June 2016 (UTC) I can understand. Thanks for taking the request anyway. The "E" in the title is dubious as her known name is Anupama Parameswaran. So I thought I should request for a move. --Charles Turing (talk) 10:25, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Charles Turing Its been moved. Bgwhite (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-24 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes Wikimedia wikis now use AuthManager. If you have new problems related to logging in or being logged in, report them. [12] Visiting Special:Notifications doesn't automatically mark notifications as read anymore. You can go between read, unread or all notifications on Special:Notifications. Notifications on Special:Notifications are grouped by day. 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The AfD is open a minimum of seven days after which "judgement" is rendered based on the arguments given. Bgwhite (talk) 04:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC) Requested move There is a requested move at Talk:Ayşe Hafsa Sultan#Requested move 13 June 2016 on a page that you have edited in the past. You are invited to come to the talk page and give your input.  OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")! Paine  01:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC) Hi If you find time for it, please take a look at this comment and [19] by an established user. Calling someone a "sicko" and implying that it is not even enough to explain how they feel about someone is excessive and uncivil. Also the rationale itself for the AfD is uncivil in my opinion. I might be wrong but it seems to be over the top.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Barnstar of Good Humor For keep fixing CHECKWIKI errors and still in good humor mood. Magioladitis (talk) 22:27, 16 June 2016 (UTC) HI Bgwhite, I am hoping to add new pictures of Kat Von D to her page, as it seems that the current ones are from 2007 and 2011. I'm happy to provide photos with photographer releases, but i have never used Wikipedia before and the one time I tried to make changes I sure made a mess of things, and would love to enlist your help. Thanks! Rhian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittinses (talk • contribs) 17:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC) Anupama E Parameswaran Hi, I see Anupama E Parameswaran is #34 in WP:TOPRED (55% mobile, so not one bot hammering away). Would a redirect to Anupama Parameswaran be apppropriate? I didn't boldly add one, as I expect you moved the page without redirect for good reasons. Thanks, Certes (talk) 10:56, 19 June 2016 (UTC) Certes Not yet. It was an actual article for a few days, which got all the search engine spiders having fun with it and then showing up on the search sites. Wait a couple of weeks and I suspect that number will drop drastically. Bgwhite (talk) 04:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC) EESTEC map format Hello Bgwhite, You've changed the map on the Electrical Engineering Students' European Association page to an old version, indicating the new one was broken. Please explain what was broken, so that we could create one that is displaying the correct and up-to-date info, without overlapping labels, etc. Thanks. IsaacSt (talk) 19:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-25 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen. [20] Changes this week The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Wikipedia projects. 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Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC) meta:Vandalism reports and User:Peadar/User:Borgatya Hello Bgwhite. FYI: meta:Special:Permalink/15713496#User:Peadar (User:Borgatya at enwiki). Regards --Jivee Blau (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2016 (UTC) Flying lesbians Just thought: adding quotes inside the title, around the ampersand, might work. PamD 06:54, 21 June 2016 (UTC) Yes, you got there before me. Thanks. My solution got the desired effect but at the cost of a load of junk code: much more elegant now. But your first fixup oversimplified. All fine now. PamD 06:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC) PamD Sorry for leaving off the one song. All the junk code was confusing me. Of course, just getting out of bed in the morning confuses me. If I have questions about a template, I usually ask Frietjes. It's an idiot savant relationship... I'm the idiot and she's the savant. Bgwhite (talk) 07:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC) You could also ask Izkala (who solved all template questions for me) and pray for an answer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC) A Kafka story or: the unwanted content Once upon a time, a dear fellow editor PS asked me if I would join his efforts to improve Franz Kafka. I helped, working mainly on the things requiring knowledge of German, such as the works list. Too make it short, eventually the article became a FA, but only without the works list, which seemed too long. PS parked it on the Franz Kafka bibliography, where I thought it didn't fit well, also didn't want to disturb the work others had done on that article. So I created a separate article, Franz Kafka works, which merrily graced the Main page (DYK) when Kafka was TFA (the most successful ever so far, thanks to the google doodle that day). Last year, a merge was requested with the bibliography. Yesterday, it was "merged", - again plastered at the end of the other. The unwanted content. I miss PS more than the article, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC) Reference errors on 22 June Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that some edits performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. They are as follows: On the Luke Gallows page, your edit caused a broken reference name (help) and a cite error (help). (Fix | Ask for help) On the Got7 discography page, your edit caused an unnamed parameter error (help) and an archiveurl error (help). (Fix | Ask for help) Please check these pages and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:21, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Zev Garber Hi. I can't find a reference saying Zev Garber went to Bar-Ilan University. Can you?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:28, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Zigzig20s I only fixed an error on the article and I don't know anything about him. I found this link, but not much else. There isn't much about his other stops either. Bgwhite (talk) 06:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Thanks. I've referenced it and added the category.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:48, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Replace "External link" with "External links" I used to do this task but it needs a database dump every month. Would you like to take over this task? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC) BG19bot bug The robot will mistakenly shift note templates like {{efn}} outside of columns causing the inline citation to disappear from view. Compare: Example of removal(<--this is what the bot does), with the proper, expected behaviour. Not sure issue is up-stream in AWB or with BG19. -- dsprc [talk] 00:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Dsprc This relates to AWB's handling of WP:REFPUNC. What's strange... If there is a space between {{efn}} and !!, AWB handles it fine. If there is no space, AWB does what you reported. @Magioladitis: for help. Hm... we may need to report this to Phabricator and check later. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:38, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Reger bot Your bot tried to help me. Yes, the bot was right, but the "fix" kind of made it worse. Linking to the article you are on ;) - Perhaps you can train the bot to just issue a suggestion in such cases? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 24 June 2016 (UTC) Gerda Arendt The bot didn't try to help you because it didn't make the edit. I personally tried not to help you and make you miserable... yea, I'm going with that. Nope, I wasn't an idiot in this case. Yup, it was done on purpose to torment you and I'm, um, sticking to that theory, yea. Bgwhite (talk) 07:46, 24 June 2016 (UTC)