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::They are obviously not the same after you explained it; my comments/explanation was regarding what you said about me at the end of your post on AN/I. This, you said: "solely because you don't like their opinion in your AFD"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=73973625], and also regarding the "ad hom" attacks you posted on the IP's talk.[[User:Arbustoo|Arbusto]] 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::They are obviously not the same after you explained it; my comments/explanation was regarding what you said about me at the end of your post on AN/I. This, you said: "solely because you don't like their opinion in your AFD"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=73973625], and also regarding the "ad hom" attacks you posted on the IP's talk.[[User:Arbustoo|Arbusto]] 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for your comment on my nomination page. You are quite rude, however, but I guess it's custom where you live. --[[User:Adriaan 1|Scotteh]] 18:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Netsnipe! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! -- Noldoaran 17:18, Nov 21, 2003 (UTC)
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Please stay off my talk pages and don't send me any of your welcoming notes. I see what you really are and don't want contact with you. GBYork 01:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? So what am I, go on, really? It's my job to leave a welcome message on people's talk page who haven't received one yet. Sheesh, it's called the Wikipedia:Welcoming committee. So much for Wikipedia:Assume good faith! --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  04:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like an answer please. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  16:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll assume good faith on your part. Having contact with people around here is dangerous so I seek to avoid it, especially with administrators and I suspect you are one. But maybe you are different from the rest. So I will assume good faith for you. In fact, I'm surprised you answered me, as administrators usually don't, and I am surprised that you are interested in my opinion. GBYork 16:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not all administrators are rouge. Anyway, I'm not an administrator. Just take a look at my user rights log. It's empty. An administrator has the following entry: "bureaucrat (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for user from (none) to (none) (=sysop)". There is no grand conspiracy to get you. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  17:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good you are not admin -- don't become one -- it ruins people. I like you all the more if you are not an administrator. And I have admired some of your collections of deletions, like that guy who had multiple articles and even multiple templates on Wikipedia, all cross-linked to his articles and outside websites and articles there. Plus even links on his websites back to Wikipedia. Sorry I was hard on you. GBYork 00:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused about what's going on

Well, I'm confused about what is going on. On the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip H. Farber, my unfortunate nomination, this was posted: :Note - nominator has an active complaint against him from two parties on WP:AN/I for inappropriate tagging, prodding, etc. over two separate vendettas he is conducting -999 (Talk) 18:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Now there are escalating posts and the Rosencomet person is consider a good guy, last time I looked. It is 999 that has been doing the editing on the page I nominated so Rosencomet wasn't even on my radar.

I have comments on my talk page that I don't even understand, and other people seem to be carrying out conversations there between themselves.

My actions were probably faulty. I had been told by someone else that I was being too soft so I didn't know what to do.

If I stay away from trying to clear the wikify backlogs I stay out of this kind of trouble so I must renew my vow to stay away from that! Mattisse(talk) 17:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am lodging a strong protest at the AFD and at WP:ANI now. I am frankly appalled by 999's conduct in trying to influence the AFD. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  17:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


List of price comparison services

I've put a solution for keeping List of price comparison services on the AfD page, and would really like your feedback on it. I'm really trying to improve the coverage of this technology on Wikipedia, and would appreciate any guidance from experience Wikipedians such as yourself in taking it to a higher standard. Blowski 05:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Hey thanks Netsnipe, my first barnstar! I'll treasure it. regards. --Mcginnly | Natter 08:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I awarded Original Barnstar to Mcginnly for his work on getting IG Farben Building featured and his tireless work on Portal:Architecture on 04:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC). --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  08:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. But I have a new question.

I'm the newcomer to Wikipedia, in France, Paul_Wi11iams who you helped today. Thankyou. I have other questions, posted on my user page. Is there any other way of notifying this to you without filling up your usertalk page with novices' questions? --Paul Williams 15:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I like what you say about information wanting to be freed. I've written a whole site around this theme, and have an answer to Life the Universe and Everything. No, not forty-two.

Template:User wikipedia/VCN

Just to give you headups. No more userboxes on main space. Please gusify it moving it to your userspace. I'll be removing it soon. -- Drini 22:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I got the same message, Netsnipe. Since it's your creation (only the image is mine), I figure you could re-adopt it to your userspace. Unless of course you'd like me to do it (which I'll gladly do) - if so, let me know. Misza13 06:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Aren't Wikipedia-related userboxes exempt? I only thought personal-views were covered under WP:GUS. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  19:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't VCN not an official wikipedia project? Isn't that why all its pages are hosted off wikipedia? Either it's sanctioned or not. -- Drini 22:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Further proof, is that all the vandalism related channels cannot use the word #wikipedia on the channel name (because doing so would imply official recongnition -- Drini 22:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please make sure you read Wikipedia:Notability (music) and establish the band's notability in the article or else it may get deleted. Make sure everyone you write is verifiable by citing from 3rd party reliable sources. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  19:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just been writing a page (my first) on a Rock Band called The Most Terrifying Thing. It appear to have been deleted. How can I find out why? This was the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Terrifying_Thing but it now does not work. Thanks in advance Trigger1892

From the deletion log: 05:11, 25 August 2006 Stifle (talkcontribs) deleted "The Most Terrifying Thing" (nn-band)

You failed to establish the notability of the band in the article as I had warned you earlier. We get dozens of garage bands trying to promote themselves daily on Wikipedia every day and they always get deleted once spotted. Read Wikipedia:Notability (music) carefully and make sure you can meet the guideline's requirements before you rewrite your article. I'm going to bed now so I can't help anymore for now, but you can request someone else to by adding {{helpme}} (without the nowiki tags) to your talk page. PS: You got your signature wrong on my talk page. Use four '~' instead. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  19:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should know better. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  20:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lighten up... Just a fun edit which I knew would be quickly reverted. I've seen some of your edits... they're not ALL ones I would brag about. Jcam 20:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'd like to hear about the ones I shouldn't be bragging about (if I were the type who was self-centered enough to be bragging about editing Wikipedia in the first place) — I'm always seeking feedback on how to improve myself. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  20:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Largest Facebook Group Ever

I still don't 100% why my article is being agured? It doesn't qualify as a vanity article, or anything else you said it does. I hope I'm not being rude, but I use this website for everything and I think atleast 50+ people a day would be using the Largest Facebook Group Ever page, because so many people ask us these questions, just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean it can't be there.Musicsoul52 22:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please ask for clarifications at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Largest Facebook Group Ever. I've elaborated there already. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  20:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

I've taken a few days off and now see the game of it all. Thanks for your support and your good will. I admire you for your persistence. And also, for being a human being, even in this situation. Mattisse(talk) 00:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re Johns Hopkins health alerts postings

http://www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com/alerts_index/prostate_disorders/25-1.html

All of the articles at the site are free, (we do a lot more than just prostate material, but this is where our expertise is really outstanding, and much needed for the many men confused about the treatment options for various prostatic conditions) and we do not run any ads from pharma companies or 'snake oil salesmen' whatsoever. (They guy advertising the prostate massager in the BPH article, for example!! is a clear commercial promotion).

The articles, varying in length from 300 to 1200 words for a special report, are completely free for anyone to read at the site. They do not even have to provide an email address. They only do so if they wish us to send them a free email alert when we post new content so they do not have to search the site to try to find out 'what's new'. We also offer the material as free RSS feeds anyone can have delivered to their desktop.

I have signed up for an account here and provided a direct email address, but here it is again:

Joan Mullally

<jmullally at uhealthpub dot com>

We also publish the UC Berkeley Wellness Letter at www.wellnessletter.com. Again, that is a site without any external ads, completely free to the public. The only 'subscriber's corner' part is for the people who subscribe to the paper newsletter and want archives of the back issues. Otherwise, there is a ton of free material.

I am sorry if I have not been 'compliant' with Wikipedia-we are a new site and it just seemed a great chance to get people to become better infomred-but we can't rewrite the material either, as our Hopkins experts have it phrased pretty precisely and don't wish us to change it-hence posting articles in their entirety.

Though I then realzed anyone could just go in and tinker with them, hence I began posting the links instead.

Anyway, once again, I am sorry if I did things the wrong way because I was not clear about how to use the site. I will keep working at it!

best regards,

Joan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnshopkinshealthalerts (talkcontribs) 12:23, 25 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Vandals

Hi Netsnipe! Just letting you know that your vandalism efforts are not going unnoticed: it's so great when you report to WP:AIV because when I see your report, I can trust that the user has been warned and almost always deserves a block. Happy vandal whacking! —Mets501 (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've been tossing up whether to nominate myself for WP:RFA or not recently. I don't know if I'll be garner enough support seeing that I haven't contributed to a featured article yet. I'm always too busy fighting vandals and spammers, filing AFDs and tracking the more nasty long-term abuse cases instead because they worry me a lot. What do you think? Am I ready for the mop and bucket? --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  15:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's always a tough question, one which really can't be fully answered until you actually go through the process. I know that from me you'd get a support, though :-). I wouldn't worry much about writing a featured article: I never wrote one and my RfA passed with a count of 82/5/0. Bottom line is it's up to you whether you're ready to run. (You can check out the standards page if you'd like) —Mets501 (talk) 16:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please assert the notability of Sylvia Ceyer within the article? Biographies that do not do this are often deleted from Wikipedia. Thanks,  Netsnipe  (Talk)  16:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd read the article, you would know that she is a very prominent chemist in the United States. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rglovejoy (talkcontribs) .

I did read the aritcle and I nearly had it deleted as a Wikipedia:Autobiography violation because it looked ,pre like a resume rather than an encyclopedia article. I actually had to Google "Sylvia Ceyer" before I realised she was indeed prominent (which kind of defeats the purpose of having a Wikipedia article in the first place). I shouldn't have had to look elsewhere to realise she was notable. I highly suggest that you rewrite this article as a "biography" (instead of mainly listing her works) before another editor actually makes the mistake of actually deleting it. You can find further help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography if you need it. Cheers,  Netsnipe  (Talk)  17:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For the warm welcome, I appreciate such a helpful message Arem 19:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for teaching me about edit summaries (which I didn't know about)

Re : AfD/Roi_Sorezki

Done. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 09:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This appeared on WP:CSD. Do you want it deleted?  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  13:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. It was a bad link = ) --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  13:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editcount boxout added.  (aeropagitica)   (talk) 

Thank you

Do you know where I can take concerns about Wikistalking? I've followed your lead and noticed other evidence. Durova 13:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest reporting it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and filing Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser on all those you suspect to be same person. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  13:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Barnstar!

You have been incredibly supportive and helpful and constructive. I notice that you are up for admin. Can anyone comment there, or is it only for other admins to do so? Mattisse(talk) 14:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I notice the Admin Incident filed against me has vanished. Where do such things go when they disappear and was there an outcome? Mattisse(talk) 14:29, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was probably archived. WP:ANI isn't a tribunal, it's merely a noticeboard where incidents are reported and administrator try to work out a consensus on how to best handle incidents. The Arbitration Committee is the only group on Wikipedia whose review of complaints is final. As for my RFA, I'm still writing it. I don't think there's anything against you voicing your opinion there, but I'm not sure if they really count the votes of non-admins there. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  14:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Human imprinting

Human Imprinting stub has been deleted. Any chance of help with an undeletion? Human Imprinting is such important information for mothers who want to breastfeed as they can then better direct the newborn behaviour in a helpful way. Freud, Piaget and Lorenz did not quite get it quite right because they have never had the 24/7/365 care of the newborn. Give mums some help if you can. ElsiemobbsElsiemobbs 16:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is notable, but your approach has been wrong. If I remember correctly you were citing from your own masters thesis rather than from papers published in peer-reviewed journals. We take Wikipedia:No original research very seriously around here because of the conflict of interest problem inherent in basing an encyclopedia entirely on what you believe is to be fact instead of say a commonly held view in the scientific community. Some of the other editors on Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion review also interpreted your article as vanity for increasing your exposure/reputation as a researcher through Wikipedia. If you wish to rewrite your article, I suggest that do so with the neutral point of view policy in mind. Make sure you cite 3rd party reliable sources and offer alternative views or theories apart from yours. Finally, don't recreate your article in the main encyclopedia. Start and work on it at User:Elsiemobbs/Human imprinting (anything under User:Elsiemobbs/ is your personal space and won't be deleted). From time to time get other editors to review it or submit it to Wikipedia:Peer review and when you think it's a real encyclopedia article, you can then move it back into the encyclopedia proper. Good luck,  Netsnipe  (Talk)  16:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Offering

I think one of your strengths is that your view of the articles on Wikipedia seems remarkably wide ranging and your memory exteremely good, hence your ability to put together such pieces as the V. Alexander Stefan collection. Also, not many others are as persistent and responsible as you are in following up and shepherding anything you have taken on through to it's conclusion. (I'm thinking of the afd's like the Philip Farber thing, but I am sure this is a trait you exhibit in other Wikipedia work you do that is unknown to me.) Mattisse(talk) 16:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliments. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  16:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zionism on the Web

I am curious why you did this? - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My experience with nominating articles on websites for deletion brings in a lot of single puprose accounts. Issues related to the Israeli-Palestine conflict also tend to exacerbate knee jerk reactions from outsiders unfamiliar with Wikipedia's deletion procedures and policies. Do you disagree with my preventative stance? --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  21:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I've removed it per WP:AGF - CrazyRussian talk/email 21:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst it's good that you have attempted to contact John Dugard, you should have done your research before attempting to remove the source on a "hunch". And yes, two reverts is edit warring and it's to be avoided, especially by people who want to be admins.Deuterium 02:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar of diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
I, Durova, award this barnstar to Netsnipe for identifying suspicious deletions at Wikipedia talk: Long term abuse and my own user talk page. Durova 17:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. = ) --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  17:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Againstbabangida.com

Find the most authoritative information about Ibrahim Babangida at http://againstbabangida.com/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Odediran (talkcontribs) .

Hi Odediran. I'm afraid we're simply not allowed to use that website because it doesn't provide any references to any of the statements on its web page. We cannot tell if whatever they write there is a lie or not. It fails Wikipedia:Verifiability which is very important to an encyclopedia. If you look at the References section on Ibrahim Babangida you will notice that I am using what Wikipedia calls are reliable sources because they are written by impartial parties such the BBC and Financial Times which are reputable news sites. Can you please find more sources on Babangida from similar organisations? --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  18:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the policy clarification

Thanks for the clarification on dealing with suspected sock puppets.--Scribner 18:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Know you're busy

But 999 keeps screwing around with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip H. Farber page. He removed my comments at the end so I reverted the page so my comment was back in.

Now he has "fixed the formatting" and I'm not sure what he has done. If you would just check it out when you have the time, as you have a keener eye about what's going on. Thanks! GBYork 19:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed the edit earlier and didn't see anything wrong. To be honest, you shouldn't have reverted Hanuman Das's removal of your comment on smalltalk from the AFD. You had already made your point and he had accepted it by removing the irrelevant comments from the AFD. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  19:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
O.K. Thanks! I guess I am not clear about the rules on when you can remove. It just seemed ironic that I was just quoting what Hanuman Das had said re Mattisse's comment farther up the page re 999, and then he says something even more irrelevant about Jmabel. Is there a place to go to read up on what you can and cannot remove. Somewhere I got the idea that it was wrong to remove other people's comments. The rules and behavior on these adf pages -- strange. GBYork 19:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well the rules only really state that you're not allowed to remove votes or comments relevant to the article at hand. I leave everything else up to common-sense. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  19:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spam..

At it again[1].--Andeh 21:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. I'll keep checking daily and if I see anymore, I'll send it to the blacklist. --  Netsnipe  ►  04:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

It's not commercial, it's a free tool, but ok my fault…

Thanks, JF —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.205.82.2 (talkcontribs) .

Please see Wikipedia:External links for our policy on external links. We don't allow links to pages with Google Ads on them if the don't complement the content of the article. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages

I don't see why, we can delete stuff at will if we want in our talk pages.... Necrowarrio0 22:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can if you really, really want to (as long as they aren't recent warnings), but if you want to become an administrator one day, people will expect you to be transparent about your conduct towards others. As I mentioned earlier, archiving messages is the preferred way of keeping your talk page short and tidy. You can even get Werdnabot to do it automatically for you. --  Netsnipe  ►  22:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Necrowarrio0 22:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I should mention that the guidelines for talk pages are set out in full at Wikipedia:Talk_pages. Cheers,  Netsnipe  ►  23:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New article on a complex subject

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Re:Welcome

oops, how did u know that i m tryin editing things... K 02:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol and I have Wikipedia:Sandbox on my watchlist when I noticed your talk page was empty. So welcome to Wikipedia. --  Netsnipe  ►  02:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its rather ironic isnt it?...

That you have a picture of Hell on top of your talk page. You reverted "me". Called it nonsense. If nothing else, heed my warning, so you dont suffer my fate.Bless you, sir.IAmATableSaw 02:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No offense intended. I just found it too bizarre to be told "dont cheat on your wife" by a total stranger, and secondly, I didn't choose to have Dante and Virgil in Hell on my talk page. The Wikipedia:Picture of the day changes daily. --  Netsnipe  ►  02:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiLove!

Get it, a pipe for Netsnipe? Anyhow, you've contributed a lot of great edits to Wikipedia, so keep up the good work! :D (another ackward attempt at comedy by TBCTaLk?!?)

Thanks for the complements but your joke was just "punful"! --  Netsnipe  ►  21:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, it would be you if Guinnog had failed! Thanks for the encouragement, let's hope a b'crat closes mine first. Take a look at this if you're bored. —Xyrael / 12:52, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5 Times?

Who has blocked me? When? For how long?TheTruth2 18:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I miscounted. Four times. Your block log. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I filed a valid sockpuppet report. An admin deleted my evidence. That was wrong and I am going to put it back. I wouldn't have had to deal with this "why did you do this" crap if the admin had left my report in place. A valid sockpuppet report should be commented on, closed, but not deleted. -999 (Talk) 19:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me?

You posted above me on 999's talk page which he has now erased. Dan posted below me, telling 999 that he was treating User talk:Shravak unacceptably. Now he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet of User talk:Shravak. He put a template on my user page and says he will have me blocked if I do anything he doesn't want. He writes on my talk page but says he will have me blocked if I write on his. What should I do? Dattat 20:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just follow the rules as best as you can and there's nothing 999 can do. He's not an administrator and no matter how much "WikiLawyering" he uses to intimidate you, he still needs to actually convince an administrator that you have broken the rules before you can get blocked. I haven't reviewed the particulars of your situation yet, but I suggest that you stop editing the articles that you are in conflict with User:999 and start the Wikipedia:Resolving disputes process by requesting mediation or arbitration via 3rd parties. I'll be away for about 8-10 hours, and I'll come back to take a further look at the situation. --  Netsnipe  ►  21:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Status

Are you an admin? If not, please do not act as if you are. I interpret "warnings" with respect to talk pages as official warning explicitly placed by people who are actually admins. Thanks and have a nice day. :-) -999 (Talk) 21:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I probably will be in less than 48 hours time, but that's beside the point. Rdsmith4 is an admin, but that's beside the point. The point is that you constantly refuse to abide by the community-established consensus on removal of warnings that are not definitely not frivolous. Your constant attempts at intimidating newer users and incivility regardless of whatever policies they may have broken in your eyes is simply unacceptable. --  Netsnipe  ►  21:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser

I've been told in the past by an admin not to use checkuser, but to follow Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, which is what I did. That page says it is for starting a general discussion of whether the user is a sockpuppet. Nothing on the page says what you say about it. -999 (Talk) 21:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature/1000th admin

I'm glad that it's not an issue on your RFA (looks like that was a passing phase) but could you still consider shortening and 'de-emphasising' your signature? I find using a background colour distracting and it gives your signature more prominence on talk pages (as we should all be equal, that's not a good thing!), and its length fills up diff/edit windows making it harder to find and edit comments. I hope you don't mind me pointing this out, it certainly isn't that big a deal :) WP:SIG is the guideline on the matter.

Also regarding 1000th admin- if you look at User talk:Xyrael/Templates/Sysop and note "There are other flaws in this count, such as Danny and Dannyisme being the same person. NoSeptember 14:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)". You can still claim to be the 1000th- you'll be the 1000th user to be an admin, while Xyrael will have the 1000th admin account, so you can share the artificial honour! Petros471 21:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

reply

I've replied by e-mail. — Dan | talk 23:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GSCentral

I've reread the External Links policy. Tell me if I'm understanding the properly. I cannot add a link to me own site (despite it being relevant and useful) because it is a POV violation. However, I can put it up on the article(s)'s talk page(s) and if others think it appropriate, they can add it? Tell me if I am understanding correctly. Dlong 03:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that is correct. However, you are allowed to add a link to you own site if you are providing a specific link as a reference. For example, http://www.gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=489&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 as linked in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is allowed because it is a constructive link and not just mindless spamming. --  Netsnipe  ►  04:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: E-mail

Done. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 04:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar nom

Netsnipe - answers now posted, please just post a followup if they raise any further questions. Cheers, --Oscarthecat 16:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Birth cert spammer

Cheers for the help! --Nigel (Talk) 17:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still at it tho - this may help [2] --Nigel (Talk) 17:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Threats

I issued warnings because that is what Wikipedia is telling me to do. He (2nd Piston Honda) has deleted things whenever he has chosen to, in violation of Wikipedia policies and attacked me personally numerous times now. I have followed policy to the best of my ability. Do not threaten me with a block when I am following Wikipedia policy.
Since I'm already here I would like you to take the proper steps against him for his vandalism (George Bush page and my user page), personal attacks (various pages) and for his deleting items wherever he chooses. Thank You."Duke53 | Talk" 20:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:2nd Piston Honda

Nicely done. --Guinnog 23:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Could you please offer your opinion of my handling of this incident at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Duke53 and 2nd Piston Honda? Thanks,  Netsnipe  ►  01:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Guinnog 07:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good call. Regards, Ben Aveling 02:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job keeping cool and mediating in this situation; especially in view of the not so polite comments made by one party.
ERcheck (talk) 03:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An Award
I, Konstable, award you this purple barnstar for enduring unnecessary abuse on your first day as an admin. Good job for keeping cool and I hope you're not put off in any way!--Konstable 04:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Agreed with the above, good job all around. Take some deep breaths, and the first day will be over soon! ;) Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree that you handeled the dispute well. Good luck to all of your future work! Remember 02:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations

Well done on passing your RfA and becoming an admin. Does this mean that you are admin#1001? I hope that you enjoy wielding the mop and bucket! Please ask if you have any questions about the role. Regards, (aeropagitica) 16:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I would be #1000 if it wasn't for Dannyisme's duplicate admin account! Actually, I do have one question for you, what tools and skins do you recommend for admin tasks? Cheers,  Netsnipe  ►  21:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The skin that I use is the default, Monobook. If I use tools, they are VandalProof and Lupin's popups to preview edits made by others. Everything else is reviewing WP:CSD, New pages, new user accounts and AfD pages. That seems to take up all of my time, lately. (aeropagitica) 22:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! --Fang Aili talk 14:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am pleased to let you know that, consensus reached, you are now an Administrator. You should find the following forums useful:

Congratulations on your promotion and the best of luck with your new charge! Redux 19:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! - CrazyRussian talk/email 20:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thats all... just congrats.--Blue Tie 01:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto from me bud! - Glen 03:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats, and good luck. Yanksox 04:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Universe Daily: fuckisrael.org

The Universe Daily spam of fuckisrael that you put on the LTA page very recently, where did it come from? Kevin_b_er 04:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Universe_today&oldid=73319110 --  Netsnipe  ►  04:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks!

I was kinda surprised to see you on my welcome page making changes...but I appreciate the link you added! Kukini 05:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection of McFly

Hi Netsnipe! Congrats on your adminship by the way! Just letting you know that I think the semi-protection of McFly was warranted, so there's no need to worry. When it's just one or two IP's vandalizing, then I think blocking is more appropriate, but when it's many IPs all vandalizing then I think protection is necessary. For me, "enough activity" for semi-protection is generally a few cases of vandalism a day. See you around! —Mets501 (talk) 18:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page

Thanks for your note. I will be using my talk page in compliance with WP:TALK. As you know there's no requirement for archives. There are proper procedures for genuine policy violations. Imaginary infringements can be safely left in the hands of the those trying to use them as a form of harrassment. --Ian Pitchford 18:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocks

Hi I noticed this in the log

# 18:51, 4 September 2006 Netsnipe (Talk | contribs | block) unblocked Willkillpedia (contribs) (Unblock to allow new account creation)

For that sort of account there is no need to unblock them, it has zero contributions and is an inappropriate username, simply unblock an autoblocks and tell them to logout and create a new account. No point messing around with user renaming etc. etc. --pgk 19:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also see you didn't remove the outstanding autoblocks [3], so they won't be able to anything anyway... --pgk 19:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pointers. = ) --  Netsnipe  ►  19:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

The user you blocked, User:86.143.123.198 is a suspected sockpuppet of User:Leyasu, who was perm. banned from editing Wikipedia a few months ago after numerous violations. This user has complete disregard for site policies, and blocks/intervention from admins has done absolutely nothing to control him. Page semi-protection seems to best course of action for all the articles he has been reverting - unfortunately this tends to be a rather temporary solution. Please see here [4] for more info. Thanks. --Danteferno 20:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Amy Maddox

To whom it may concern:

Mrs. Maddox is an excellent teacher. I see no need for the deletion of my article, for within my school, she is an important figure of scholarly intellect. Please consider my proposal for leaving this article on Wikipedia. Thank You. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ayazdi3942 (talkcontribs) 21:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC) (UTC)[reply]

Please note that any biography you write on Wikipedia must be able to satisfy the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. --  Netsnipe  ►  21:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Jemson block

Katie Jemson (talkcontribs) is requesting an unblock. Looking through her contribs, she doesn't even have any User talk edits to suggest she is a sockpuppet of "T Turner/D Sanchez et al". --  Netsnipe  ►  04:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Netsnipe, please don't unblock. I've requested a check user. It's almost certainly the same person who was causing chaos earlier with several accounts. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too late. I've just unblocked her AND emailed her about it right before I got your message. Apologies in advanced if Checkuser turns out positive. I'll keep an eye out on her activity in the meantime. --  Netsnipe  ►  04:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain to me why you would do that? You're not familiar with the case, the background, the IP addresses, or the other accounts. You referred it to me for review, and I am familiar with it. I have requested a check user, which takes time. And yet, within minutes of referring it to me, you unblock anyway, even though the blocking policy cautions strongly against doing this. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's confirmed by check user so I've reblocked. The IP address "Katie" gave you was a made-up one. Please don't rush in to undo other admin's blocks again. SlimVirgin (talk) 05:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up the contributions for both T Turner and D Sanchez and I couldn't find anything in common. D Sanchez has no (main) edits, T Turner has 1. Both were blocked for talk page harassment and Katie currently has no talk page edits and 3 (main) edits. I also took a look at Ray Lopez and couldn't find a single connection in there as well. So what evidence am I missing from the picture? In hindsight I now know it was rather bad of me to override your block, but please note this is my second day as an admin, so my WP:AGF instinct is still way too strong. --  Netsnipe  ►  05:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if it's your second day, I'll forgive you. :-) First, read WP:BLOCK. You're not supposed to undo other admins' blocks unless they're not available and it's an emergency. Second, if you pass it to the blocking admin for review, you must allow them to review it. Third, in this case there's evidence that you're overlooking, but I won't say here what it is because I don't want to help the person to be a better sockpuppet in future. Finally, if you're going to AGF, you must also assume it of the blocking admin, especially if the admin is experienced. It makes no sense to AGF of someone with four edits but not of someone with 40,000. :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 05:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please email this evidence so I can spot this sockpuppeteer in future too? --  Netsnipe  ►  05:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The prevent account creation function

I believe it only works when blocking IPs not specific users. Just noticed you unblocked someone to reblock them after changing this so thought I'd let you know :) - Glen 07:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting talk pages

I didnt think we did that? - Glen 08:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only in cases of meta:Right to vanish per How do I delete my user and user talk pages? I also indef them so an admin is notified if they return so that their talk page histories can be restored. --  Netsnipe  ►  09:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, learn something new... I have seen other admins refuse to do this even when someone is leaving hence my confusion. :) - Glen 09:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd refuse only if they were long-term abusers or sock-puppeteers trying to hide evidence. --  Netsnipe  ►  09:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Sorry, Actually I did not wanted to do this. that was just a mistake. I wanted to leave a message but I did a mistake. anyway, I put back his usertalk from history. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EvidentHost (talkcontribs) 10:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC) (UTC)[reply]

Wow

I've actually been aware of you and your postings for some time and I have to say the fact that you consider me "respected", even as an anon, actually means something. Thank you. It's people like you that may actually encourage me to rejoin the coop. --Paul. 205.157.110.11 12:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you've got a high edit count and almost no warnings, then you shouldn't have to put up with ad hominem attacks like that. I'm actually amazed that no one has manage to trash the reputation of your Office Depot IP though -- how do manage it? Is it really shared? By the way, have you met User talk:68.39.174.238 yet? He's more famous than you for refusing to create an account. = P --  Netsnipe  ►  12:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Submission Question

I am new to Wikipedia and would like to understand why a link I submitted (http://www.studysphere.com/Site/Sphere_13920.html) to the "External Links" section of Dental Implants was deleted? This directory has over 3,000 human selected articles and dental implant resources in it. It is much more than a "mere collection of external links:. Thank you for any assistance.Bbowenjr 13:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jazzper's unblock request

Hi Netsnipe, I noticed that you also looked at Jazzper's request, and though I probably would have rejected it outright, you probably did the "more correct" thing and informed the original blocking admin of this request. Now, a disclaimer is that I'm not really sure of what to do in these circumstances, but I'm going to change {{unblock}} into {{unblock reviewed}} just so the "unblock backlog" gets cleared. Please let me know (or change back) if you think the template should stay as is. Thanks, Deathphoenix ʕ 13:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

205.157.110.11

I could care less if the articles are kept.

205.157.110.11 (talk · contribs) voted on only four AfD the last AfD votes 205.157.110.11 made that were not Gastrich-my AfDs on August 30, 2006 (five days before). These articles created by Gastrich 1 anon Gastrch 2user who made 5 edits. Jason_Gastrich (talk · contribs) was caught pushing POV and is banned from wikipedia.

The previous day my AfDs also go hit my a Use_Your_Naugin (talk · contribs) who first edits were on my AfDs and were Gastrich related(note user's edits on Lousiana Baptist University). This was brought to an admisntrators attention [5] and those votes were lined out my me.

With that in mind from the previous day and that banned Jason_Gastrich (talk · contribs) watches some of his articles still I warned an adminst. to expect[6] puppets before this anon appeared. This anon. user directly came to four AfDs, and being anon. I removed the material with a edit summary explaining. Arbusto 17:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you believe that User:Jason_Gastrich and User:205.157.110.11 are one and the same, I suggest you file a Checkuser request. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are obviously not the same after you explained it; my comments/explanation was regarding what you said about me at the end of your post on AN/I. This, you said: "solely because you don't like their opinion in your AFD"[7], and also regarding the "ad hom" attacks you posted on the IP's talk.Arbusto 17:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

.

Thanks for your comment on my nomination page. You are quite rude, however, but I guess it's custom where you live. --Scotteh 18:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]