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== November 2016 ==
== November 2016 ==
[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]] on others again, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. ''"how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life." The tone of your message is clearly inappropriate. You have been warned to be civilized before - this is your last warning.''<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> [[User:Cahk|Cahk]] ([[User talk:Cahk|talk]]) 10:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]] on others again, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. ''"how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life." The tone of your message is clearly inappropriate. You have been warned to be civilized before - this is your last warning.''<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> [[User:Cahk|Cahk]] ([[User talk:Cahk|talk]]) 10:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)


== REPLY

: '''''Ha ha ha what are you talking about? The Batavia massacre only killed 10,000 hakkas (the batavia massacre happened on east java where hakkas populated you stupid fucking idiot, it doesn't where the location of manroity of minorities are). hakkas were killed. Yes, the japanese did kill 14,000 people on taiwan, but most of them were hakka soldiers and qing troops from other provinces, civilians were hardly killed :( And spekaing of 14,000 people killed, the japanese killed 14,000 (mostly cantonese) with bombing and occupation execution and raped 10,000 (mostly cantonese again) in both hong kong during both the battle and pccupation The japanese also killed 20,000 cantonese with bionic plague tests in unit 841 and many tens of thousands more cantonese were killed in various other open field and surgical experiments.''
'''

:: No No No.... sorry to disappoint yoyu. Batavia massacre were all 100% Hokkien, other Chinese did not even arrived until the 19th century. The first recorded batch of Chinese all game from Fujian provinces. Indonesian massacre of Indonesian-Chinese where the vast majority were Hokkien.: " Although the exact figures were not known, it was said that out of '''some 500,000 killed, 300,000 were ethnic Chinese''' "
::https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SGCkCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT92&dq=300,000+indonesian+chinese+killed&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_ztThx6DQAhXqK8AKHd7XBWcQ6AEIRjAH#v=onepage&q=300%2C000%20indonesian%20chinese%20killed&f=false


::MASSACRE OF TAIWANESE BY JAPANESE AND KUAMINTANG ( never mind the Dutch abusing Hokkiens as slaves labour aswell )

::As for Taiwan, I wouldn't say hardly. 4,422 civilians dead and 2,660 military personnel killed.
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Taiwan_(1895)

:: February 28 incident
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_28_Incident
:: 10,000 to 30,000 or more Taiwanese people were killed/massacred by Kuamintang plus 100

:: Also known as White terror
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)
::Around 140,000 Taiwanese were imprisoned during this period, of which about from 3,000–4,000 were executed


::And speaking of rape here is Taiwanese DNA. 0.6% Of Taiwanese have a Y-DNA marker of Japanese men.
::0.6% of 23 million Taiwanese = 138,000 Taiwanese people are descended from Japanese male ancestry ( grandfather, great-grandfather, great-great grandfather was Japanese ).
:: No surprise, because in addition to 2000 Taiwanese female sexual slaves you have include the 50 years of Japanese army visiting Taiwanese brothels and engaging sex with local females as 95% of Japanese in Taiwan were males, mostly soldiers.


''''''and not to mention widespread killings, rapes and famine which killed an ernomous amount of catonese people all over guangdong, all these experiences the cantonese population suffered during WW2. There are thousands of eyewitnesses accounts and interviews from cantonese ww2 surivors who saw japanese massacring whole cantonese towns and villages, raping countless of cantonese women and forced many cantonese into prostitution in comfort stations.'''''Italic text'''''

::Go ahead and show me this countless rapes, prostitution, eyewitness accounts, interviews. YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP. I suggest you take a look at rape of nanking to learn more about eyewitness and interviews. Do you really think that mere empty words are going to prove anything.

::You should know = Guangdong = Hakka, Cantonese, Taishanese, Teochew, Tanka, Hokkien, ( in fact southwestern Guangdong are Hokkien )

:: Try this " 8 Nation orgy alliance-gangbang in Northern China; by Japan, Germany, France, US. England, Australia, Dutch, Italy "

:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion

::Thousands of Chinese women committed suicide; The Daily Telegraph journalist E. J. Dillon stated it was to avoid rape by Alliance forces, and he witnessed the mutilated corpses of Chinese women who were raped and killed by the Alliance troops. The French commander dismissed the rapes, attributing them to "gallantry of the French soldier." A foreign journalist, George Lynch, said "there are things that I must not write, and that may not be printed in England, which would seem to show that this Western civilization of ours is merely a veneer over savagery."[108]


" '''I can also easily find many atrocities against cantonese, from manchus brutally kiling 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou to spanish, filipinos and japanese soldiers massacring 20,000 Cantonese in manila to 500,000 cantonese being hacked to death by hakkas during the punti-hakka clan wars, how do you feel about all these events? They seem far more brutal than what hokkiens have experienced :D. During the hakka punti clan wars, in sze yap taishan 93% of taishanese were killed by the hakkas! :D Maybe that's why taishanese are so helplessly stupid due to a severly small gene pool from having a huge less of their own to breed because they had less people to breed with? I undertsand you are trying to hide all these favts where cantonese were being killed like pigs, I have nothing against cantonese people but I only have a problem with not adding facts, I hav lately been interested in the violence affecting cantonese people and educate people on the horrors they saw, is there a problem with that? Just because I wrote a few historic accounts on historic cantonese deaths does not prove that I hate cantonese. In kuala lumpar malay rioters killed 143 cantonese and the police shot hundreds of cantonese to death during the 13 may incident, this is a fact, why are you so ashamed of it?''' "

:: Manchus killing 100,000 mostly Ming dynasty soldiers and local civilians ( Guangzhou the last hold ).

:: As for Filipino-Chinese, you cannot even find one single text from google book source of even from articles saying the early Filipino-Chinese were Cantonese or even from Guangdong. The only part that says it's in wikipedia and without even a damn source to back it up. So please go ahead and show this year 1603 Filipino Chinese is Cantonese. Hard to trust a messy wiki page with over 200 citations ( lacking source ). I could easily remove the data write now since there is no source to even back it up.

:: Malaysian Chinese, Kuala Kumpar. You really are a joke, again it does not mention Cantonese and not to mention the demographic population from 1966 is different to the ones in 1980's where it started become mostly Cantonese. For example: Kuala Lumpur demographic: " A census in 1891 of uncertain accuracy gave a figure of 43,796 inhabitants, 79% of whom were Chinese (71% of the Chinese were Hakka), 14% Malay, and 6% Indian.[98] "

:: Lol We are talking exaggerated bullshit here, you really need to get back to your human senses.Lol 500,000 Cantonese and 93% Taishanese killed in Punti-Hakka war that's like saying 8 million Hakka were killed by Taishanese, Cantonese. We Hakka in Sze yup ( Taishan, Xinhui, Heshan, Enping, Kaiping ) dropped to 3%, so does that mean 97% Hakka were killed.

:: Hakka lost the war to Taishanese, Cantonese. What's your point?
:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punti-Hakka_Clan_Wars

::"Conflict reached a devastating scale. Over a million died and thousands of villages were destroyed. Because the Punti significantly outnumbered the Hakka, the Hakka losses were more extensive. After the clan war, the population share of Hakka in the Sze Yup area dropped to 3% with many relocated to Guangxi. "

'''" Additionally a miraculous event happened in 1915 as a natural disaster hit guangdong and guangxi killing 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou alone, just imagine how many 100,000s of cantonese were killed in the other areas of the affected provinces. Also, 1 million people in guangdong, most of them cantonese, starved to death during the communist famine. "
'''''Italic text''

:: Don't get cocky
::Guangxi population: 32% Guangxi Chinese, 35% Cantonese, 20% Hunanese dialect speakers, 10% Hakka,
::Guangdong population: 60 million Cantonese, 7 million Taishanese, 25 million Teochew, 70 million Hakka, 4 million Hokkien

:: Cantonese/Taishanese make up 40% of Hong Kong in the past before 1949 but 67% population today are Cantonese and Taishanese after 1949, 33% belong to other dialect group. More importantly pre-1949 a third (1/3) of Hong Kong used to belong to indigenous inhabitants. Many areas, districts, towns, villages in Hong Kong are populated by people of non-Cantonese origin although there is a saying that all Hong Kong people can be regarded as Cantonese since they have assimilated into Cantonese culture, language but from my experience Hong Kong have this strong identity with being Hong Kongers so it's not about being Cantonese


'''" I can also find many instances where cantonese were being subjegated to masscare and rape: https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=ANsmE1gBRKsC&pg=PA181&dq=massacre+of+cantonese+people&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP66bZiaDQAhWIto8KHUW5CycQ6AEIHzAB#v=onepage&q=massacre%20of%20cantonese%20people&f=false
After the taiping rebelion ended 70,000 cantonese were executed by the imperial chinese army and 1 million people were killed all over guangdong (most of them cantonese) : https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=XRTYwxpCDmIC&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=taishan+ww2+famine&source=bl&ots=ppLWsPWB-E&sig=GvmjkMQRj8ziPUBHqjwbG-wRKWA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixgs63qaDQAhWDsI8KHXOSBUwQ6AEISTAG#v=onepage&q=70,000%20killed%20in%20Guangzhou&f=false "'''''Italic text''

:: Lol what a moron idiot. You take these google book wordings too seriously. It says " Perhaps " 1 million people were executed , meaning the it is just the guessing of author wakeman, it's not official data. It is the same shit with hindus author exaggerating Muslims killed 200 million Indians, totally different to official data of Nanking. A written statistic not a official statistic, you can find those in thousands of google books. It's not my fault that you idiots believe in everything you read.

::Where does it say Cantonese anyway ? it's clearly talking about the Taiping rebels and their families.

::" After the surrender of the Hakkas, the Chinese authorities committed enormous massacres against the Hakkas, executing at least 30,000 Hakkas each day during the height of their operation.[33] These policies of mass murder of civilians occurred elsewhere in China, including Anhui,[34][35] and Nanjing.[36] "

::If we follow your stupid ass logic than we should edit on Wikipedia 80,000 Nanjing women were raped instead and you can find over 100+ books with these 80,000 figure but most people are hesitant to post this because is too offensive and hurting to the Chinese.

::" A recent study has shown that as many as 80,000 women had been raped, many of them then murdered, at Nanjing "

::'''Science and Football III: Proceedings of the Third World Congress of Science ...
::By Thomas Reilly'''
::https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EisnZHAMbqkC&pg=PA224&dq=rape+of+nanking+80,000+women&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHwOXrwqDQAhVFK8AKHSkoDmo4ChDoAQg-MAY#v=onepage&q=rape%20of%20nanking%2080%2C000%20women&f=false


''' " Your ridiculous and baseless accusations saying I am hokkien, but I am not hokkien, I am something different which when revealed to you would come as a shock, if you choose to unreasonably respond just to silence me in writing historic truth on wikipage educating people, I would not hesitate to mention the ernomous number of massacres you cantonese felt, even in US you were being hated by the white men. I could have said even worser things about you cantonese if I really wanted to be nasty, but I didn't, don't force me to be nasty because when I sart editing how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life. "'''

:: I can clearly see your Hokkien after watching your edit in Hokkien and Hokkien-related wiki pages. It's not that hard to reach to a conclusion that you're some type of Hokkien.

::Go ahead and try mention these enormous massacres of Cantonese. I guarantee what you can give to Cantonese I will give 10x more to you Hokkien shit or Northern Chinese.

::Speaking of raped, butchered, starved to death....... a complete joke if we can compare with the rest of China. I haven't even mention the conquests of northern China 20x by nomadic warriors from the north.

[[User:77.98.238.98|77.98.238.98]] ([[User talk:77.98.238.98|talk]]) 04:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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November 2016

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Well you appear to be lying, how the hell is improving the source with revelant well researched infromation an act of vandalism or being unconstructive? You are not making any sense, I was obviously greatly aiding in the increase of more useful information of that wikipage, just because you don't like my editing style and words does not prove that I am being unconstructive or engaging in vandalism.

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Your bias anti-Cantonese feelings makes me angry

I've been using wikipedia since 2015 October and I no problem until now !!! Very disappointing to know a fellow Chinese was doing this. I stopped editing for a week and came back only to find out that a Hokkien deliberately editing negative contents against Cantonese everywhere.

Is so obvious the main point of all your edits on Cantonese people, Japanese occupation of Hong Kong, Guangzhou all involves killing Cantonese. I would have no problem if you done out of historical basis but than I saw you deliberately removed the content of the Yuan dynasty militia killing people in Quanzhou than I started to know whats up. I studied your edits well and can see what your true intentions really are. For that reason I will do the same aswell in revenge.

I can easily do the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoklo_people


HOKKIEN MASSACRE HISTORY


History; Hokkien massacre by Song and Qing ".

" During the Song dynasty 960 - 1279, Hokkien people were targeted by the emperor and ordered the massacre of Hokkien peopple , many were killed but some escaped by hiding themselves. [12] "

" During the Qing dynasty, the Qing army massacred 150,000 people from Fujian, More than 50,000 people in Chaozhou. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_China

--- Indonesian Hokkien ---

" The Hoklo or Hokkien make up one of the Malaysian Chinese groups. There are also Hokkien or Hoklo among the Chinese Indonesians. In the 1740 Batavia massacre around 10,000 Hokkien were massacred with only 300 or 600 surviving the attack. As the first group of Chinese people to settle in large numbers, the Hokkien of southern Fujian became the dominant immigrant group until the middle of the 19th century. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1740_Batavia_massacre

--- Japanese rule of Taiwan ---

" During the Japanese rule in 1895 - 1945 , around 2000 Taiwanese women ( mostly Hokkien ) were used as sexual slaves for the imperial Japanese army. [22] The Japanese invasion of Taiwan ended up killing 14,000 civilians. "

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2015/06/24/2003621455


STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING !!!!

I really can't believe a fellow Chinese decided to be so anti-Cantonese. I mean even a I edited stuff about human crimes and massacre but I did it out of historical basis but you did it for either pleasure to humiliate or shame. Look at my edits, most of them are not related with Chinese although, I just make many edits on Cantonese sportmanship and few edits marriages of Cantonese people because I'm proud to be Cantonese.

I don't like those Hong Kong pricks for saying " Shina " but you deliberately edited on Hong Kong just because you associate Hong Kong with being Cantonese. You should know that most of the victims in Hong Kong are aboriginal Hong Kong people; they include Hakka, Hokkien, Tanka, Cantonese-Waitou people and we still do not have the correct statistic on the number of Hong Kong female being killed or rape since there was never a case of Hong Kong women protesting against Japan for their crimes.

Is common knowledge in Hong Kong that most of the victims were: Indigenous inhabitants of the New Territories (Hong Kong) who were not only victims but the ones who did most of the fighting against Japanese. Their population were depopulated by Japanese and Hong Kong have many historical documents on such things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_inhabitants_of_the_New_Territories_(Hong_Kong)

I can easily find stuff about Hokkien being people being raped and massacred. Like this.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=e3rQEf61G74C&pg=PA17&dq=hokkien+massacre&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJmM2v5Z7QAhVpAcAKHV6QB8oQ6AEIJzAC#v=onepage&q=hokkien%20massacre&f=false


I'll keep an eye on your edits from now. I hope you don't try to make any more disgusting edits against your Chinese brothers. If I find out you did this again promise you I will retaliate will full force. If I see anything edited against Cantonese people I would know it's you and I'll make sure everyone will know about the rape, killing of Hokkien people. This is the first time I ever had so much against my fellow Chinese. Is sad that we already have Hong Kong idiots and Taiwanese scums betraying Chinese but now even a fellow Chinese.

There are 300+ pages related with Hokkien, Fujian, Taiwanese and I doubt you could check everyone of them and even pages that unrelated I could easily mention Hokkien. Even if you trace my first account I'll make sure I use keep creating extra new account. I'll create dozens more so you can't trace no matter. It only takes me 2 minutes create a wiki account.

So please don't do this anymore. Remove the things I've edited on Hokkien and Fujian ( I did out anger and revenge, I really wanted to edited in hundreds of pages).

77.98.238.98 (talk) 12:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE:

Ha ha ha what are you talking about? The Batavia massacre only killed 10,000 hakkas (the batavia massacre happened at batavia where hakkas populated you stupid illogical idiot, just because hokiens form the majorit of chinese indonesians doesn't mean they occupy every single location where cinese indonesians reside). hakkas were killed. Yes, the japanese did kill 14,000 people on taiwan, but most of them were hakka soldiers and qing troops from other provinces, civilians were hardly killed :( And spekaing of 14,000 people killed, the japanese killed 14,000 (mostly cantonese) with bombing and occupation execution and raped 10,000 (mostly cantonese again) in both hong kong during both the battle and pccupation The japanese also killed 20,000 cantonese with bionic plague tests in unit 841 and many tens of thousands more cantonese were killed in various other open field and surgical experiments. and not to mention widespread killings, rapes and famine which killed an ernomous amount of catonese people all over guangdong, all these experiences the cantonese population suffered during WW2. There are thousands of eyewitnesses accounts and interviews from cantonese ww2 surivors who saw japanese massacring whole cantonese towns and villages, raping countless of cantonese women and forced many cantonese into prostitution in comfort stations.

I can also easily find many atrocities against cantonese, from manchus brutally kiling 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou to spanish, filipinos and japanese soldiers massacring 20,000 Cantonese in manila to 500,000 cantonese being hacked to death by hakkas during the punti-hakka clan wars, how do you feel about all these events? They seem far more brutal than what hokkiens have experienced :D. During the hakka punti clan wars, in sze yap taishan 93% of taishanese were killed by the hakkas alone! :D Maybe that's why taishanese are so helplessly stupid due to a severly small gene pool from having a huge less of their own to breed because they had less people to breed with? I undertsand you are trying to hide all these favts where cantonese were being killed like pigs, I have nothing against cantonese people but I only have a problem with not adding facts, I hav lately been interested in the violence affecting cantonese people and educate people on the horrors they saw, is there a problem with that? Just because I wrote a few historic accounts on historic cantonese deaths does not prove that I hate cantonese. In kuala lumpar malay rioters killed 143 cantonese and the police shot hundreds of cantonese to death during the 13 may incident, this is a fact, why are you so ashamed of it?


Additionally a miraculous event happened in 1915 as a natural disaster hit guangdong and guangxi killing 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou alone, just imagine how many 100,000s of cantonese were killed in the other areas of the affected provinces. Also, 1 million people in guangdong, most of them cantonese, starved to death during the communist famine.

I can also find many instances where cantonese were being subjegated to masscare and rape: https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=ANsmE1gBRKsC&pg=PA181&dq=massacre+of+cantonese+people&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP66bZiaDQAhWIto8KHUW5CycQ6AEIHzAB#v=onepage&q=massacre%20of%20cantonese%20people&f=false After the taiping rebelion ended 70,000 cantonese were executed by the imperial chinese army and 1 million people were killed all over guangdong (most of them cantonese) : https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=XRTYwxpCDmIC&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=taishan+ww2+famine&source=bl&ots=ppLWsPWB-E&sig=GvmjkMQRj8ziPUBHqjwbG-wRKWA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixgs63qaDQAhWDsI8KHXOSBUwQ6AEISTAG#v=onepage&q=70,000%20killed%20in%20Guangzhou&f=false

Your ridiculous and baseless accusations saying I am hokkien, but I am not hokkien, I am something different which when revealed to you would come as a shock, if you choose to unreasonably respond just to silence me in writing historic truth on wikipage educating people, I would not hesitate to mention the ernomous number of massacres you cantonese felt, even in US you werke being hated by the white men. I could have said even worser things about you cantonese if I really wanted to be nasty, but I didn't, don't force me to be nasty because when I sart editing how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life.

November 2016

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. "how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life." The tone of your message is clearly inappropriate. You have been warned to be civilized before - this is your last warning. Cahk (talk) 10:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


== REPLY

Ha ha ha what are you talking about? The Batavia massacre only killed 10,000 hakkas (the batavia massacre happened on east java where hakkas populated you stupid fucking idiot, it doesn't where the location of manroity of minorities are). hakkas were killed. Yes, the japanese did kill 14,000 people on taiwan, but most of them were hakka soldiers and qing troops from other provinces, civilians were hardly killed :( And spekaing of 14,000 people killed, the japanese killed 14,000 (mostly cantonese) with bombing and occupation execution and raped 10,000 (mostly cantonese again) in both hong kong during both the battle and pccupation The japanese also killed 20,000 cantonese with bionic plague tests in unit 841 and many tens of thousands more cantonese were killed in various other open field and surgical experiments.

No No No.... sorry to disappoint yoyu. Batavia massacre were all 100% Hokkien, other Chinese did not even arrived until the 19th century. The first recorded batch of Chinese all game from Fujian provinces. Indonesian massacre of Indonesian-Chinese where the vast majority were Hokkien.: " Although the exact figures were not known, it was said that out of some 500,000 killed, 300,000 were ethnic Chinese "
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SGCkCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT92&dq=300,000+indonesian+chinese+killed&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_ztThx6DQAhXqK8AKHd7XBWcQ6AEIRjAH#v=onepage&q=300%2C000%20indonesian%20chinese%20killed&f=false


MASSACRE OF TAIWANESE BY JAPANESE AND KUAMINTANG ( never mind the Dutch abusing Hokkiens as slaves labour aswell )
As for Taiwan, I wouldn't say hardly. 4,422 civilians dead and 2,660 military personnel killed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Taiwan_(1895)
February 28 incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_28_Incident
10,000 to 30,000 or more Taiwanese people were killed/massacred by Kuamintang plus 100
Also known as White terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)
Around 140,000 Taiwanese were imprisoned during this period, of which about from 3,000–4,000 were executed


And speaking of rape here is Taiwanese DNA. 0.6% Of Taiwanese have a Y-DNA marker of Japanese men.
0.6% of 23 million Taiwanese = 138,000 Taiwanese people are descended from Japanese male ancestry ( grandfather, great-grandfather, great-great grandfather was Japanese ).
No surprise, because in addition to 2000 Taiwanese female sexual slaves you have include the 50 years of Japanese army visiting Taiwanese brothels and engaging sex with local females as 95% of Japanese in Taiwan were males, mostly soldiers.


'and not to mention widespread killings, rapes and famine which killed an ernomous amount of catonese people all over guangdong, all these experiences the cantonese population suffered during WW2. There are thousands of eyewitnesses accounts and interviews from cantonese ww2 surivors who saw japanese massacring whole cantonese towns and villages, raping countless of cantonese women and forced many cantonese into prostitution in comfort stations.Italic text

Go ahead and show me this countless rapes, prostitution, eyewitness accounts, interviews. YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP. I suggest you take a look at rape of nanking to learn more about eyewitness and interviews. Do you really think that mere empty words are going to prove anything.
You should know = Guangdong = Hakka, Cantonese, Taishanese, Teochew, Tanka, Hokkien, ( in fact southwestern Guangdong are Hokkien )
Try this " 8 Nation orgy alliance-gangbang in Northern China; by Japan, Germany, France, US. England, Australia, Dutch, Italy "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion
Thousands of Chinese women committed suicide; The Daily Telegraph journalist E. J. Dillon stated it was to avoid rape by Alliance forces, and he witnessed the mutilated corpses of Chinese women who were raped and killed by the Alliance troops. The French commander dismissed the rapes, attributing them to "gallantry of the French soldier." A foreign journalist, George Lynch, said "there are things that I must not write, and that may not be printed in England, which would seem to show that this Western civilization of ours is merely a veneer over savagery."[108]


" I can also easily find many atrocities against cantonese, from manchus brutally kiling 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou to spanish, filipinos and japanese soldiers massacring 20,000 Cantonese in manila to 500,000 cantonese being hacked to death by hakkas during the punti-hakka clan wars, how do you feel about all these events? They seem far more brutal than what hokkiens have experienced :D. During the hakka punti clan wars, in sze yap taishan 93% of taishanese were killed by the hakkas! :D Maybe that's why taishanese are so helplessly stupid due to a severly small gene pool from having a huge less of their own to breed because they had less people to breed with? I undertsand you are trying to hide all these favts where cantonese were being killed like pigs, I have nothing against cantonese people but I only have a problem with not adding facts, I hav lately been interested in the violence affecting cantonese people and educate people on the horrors they saw, is there a problem with that? Just because I wrote a few historic accounts on historic cantonese deaths does not prove that I hate cantonese. In kuala lumpar malay rioters killed 143 cantonese and the police shot hundreds of cantonese to death during the 13 may incident, this is a fact, why are you so ashamed of it? "

Manchus killing 100,000 mostly Ming dynasty soldiers and local civilians ( Guangzhou the last hold ).
As for Filipino-Chinese, you cannot even find one single text from google book source of even from articles saying the early Filipino-Chinese were Cantonese or even from Guangdong. The only part that says it's in wikipedia and without even a damn source to back it up. So please go ahead and show this year 1603 Filipino Chinese is Cantonese. Hard to trust a messy wiki page with over 200 citations ( lacking source ). I could easily remove the data write now since there is no source to even back it up.
Malaysian Chinese, Kuala Kumpar. You really are a joke, again it does not mention Cantonese and not to mention the demographic population from 1966 is different to the ones in 1980's where it started become mostly Cantonese. For example: Kuala Lumpur demographic: " A census in 1891 of uncertain accuracy gave a figure of 43,796 inhabitants, 79% of whom were Chinese (71% of the Chinese were Hakka), 14% Malay, and 6% Indian.[98] "
Lol We are talking exaggerated bullshit here, you really need to get back to your human senses.Lol 500,000 Cantonese and 93% Taishanese killed in Punti-Hakka war that's like saying 8 million Hakka were killed by Taishanese, Cantonese. We Hakka in Sze yup ( Taishan, Xinhui, Heshan, Enping, Kaiping ) dropped to 3%, so does that mean 97% Hakka were killed.
Hakka lost the war to Taishanese, Cantonese. What's your point?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punti-Hakka_Clan_Wars
"Conflict reached a devastating scale. Over a million died and thousands of villages were destroyed. Because the Punti significantly outnumbered the Hakka, the Hakka losses were more extensive. After the clan war, the population share of Hakka in the Sze Yup area dropped to 3% with many relocated to Guangxi. "

" Additionally a miraculous event happened in 1915 as a natural disaster hit guangdong and guangxi killing 100,000 cantonese in guangzhou alone, just imagine how many 100,000s of cantonese were killed in the other areas of the affected provinces. Also, 1 million people in guangdong, most of them cantonese, starved to death during the communist famine. " Italic text

Don't get cocky
Guangxi population: 32% Guangxi Chinese, 35% Cantonese, 20% Hunanese dialect speakers, 10% Hakka,
Guangdong population: 60 million Cantonese, 7 million Taishanese, 25 million Teochew, 70 million Hakka, 4 million Hokkien
Cantonese/Taishanese make up 40% of Hong Kong in the past before 1949 but 67% population today are Cantonese and Taishanese after 1949, 33% belong to other dialect group. More importantly pre-1949 a third (1/3) of Hong Kong used to belong to indigenous inhabitants. Many areas, districts, towns, villages in Hong Kong are populated by people of non-Cantonese origin although there is a saying that all Hong Kong people can be regarded as Cantonese since they have assimilated into Cantonese culture, language but from my experience Hong Kong have this strong identity with being Hong Kongers so it's not about being Cantonese


" I can also find many instances where cantonese were being subjegated to masscare and rape: https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=ANsmE1gBRKsC&pg=PA181&dq=massacre+of+cantonese+people&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP66bZiaDQAhWIto8KHUW5CycQ6AEIHzAB#v=onepage&q=massacre%20of%20cantonese%20people&f=false After the taiping rebelion ended 70,000 cantonese were executed by the imperial chinese army and 1 million people were killed all over guangdong (most of them cantonese) : https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=XRTYwxpCDmIC&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=taishan+ww2+famine&source=bl&ots=ppLWsPWB-E&sig=GvmjkMQRj8ziPUBHqjwbG-wRKWA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixgs63qaDQAhWDsI8KHXOSBUwQ6AEISTAG#v=onepage&q=70,000%20killed%20in%20Guangzhou&f=false "Italic text

Lol what a moron idiot. You take these google book wordings too seriously. It says " Perhaps " 1 million people were executed , meaning the it is just the guessing of author wakeman, it's not official data. It is the same shit with hindus author exaggerating Muslims killed 200 million Indians, totally different to official data of Nanking. A written statistic not a official statistic, you can find those in thousands of google books. It's not my fault that you idiots believe in everything you read.
Where does it say Cantonese anyway ? it's clearly talking about the Taiping rebels and their families.
" After the surrender of the Hakkas, the Chinese authorities committed enormous massacres against the Hakkas, executing at least 30,000 Hakkas each day during the height of their operation.[33] These policies of mass murder of civilians occurred elsewhere in China, including Anhui,[34][35] and Nanjing.[36] "
If we follow your stupid ass logic than we should edit on Wikipedia 80,000 Nanjing women were raped instead and you can find over 100+ books with these 80,000 figure but most people are hesitant to post this because is too offensive and hurting to the Chinese.
" A recent study has shown that as many as 80,000 women had been raped, many of them then murdered, at Nanjing "
Science and Football III: Proceedings of the Third World Congress of Science ...
By Thomas Reilly
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EisnZHAMbqkC&pg=PA224&dq=rape+of+nanking+80,000+women&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHwOXrwqDQAhVFK8AKHSkoDmo4ChDoAQg-MAY#v=onepage&q=rape%20of%20nanking%2080%2C000%20women&f=false


" Your ridiculous and baseless accusations saying I am hokkien, but I am not hokkien, I am something different which when revealed to you would come as a shock, if you choose to unreasonably respond just to silence me in writing historic truth on wikipage educating people, I would not hesitate to mention the ernomous number of massacres you cantonese felt, even in US you were being hated by the white men. I could have said even worser things about you cantonese if I really wanted to be nasty, but I didn't, don't force me to be nasty because when I sart editing how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life. "

I can clearly see your Hokkien after watching your edit in Hokkien and Hokkien-related wiki pages. It's not that hard to reach to a conclusion that you're some type of Hokkien.
Go ahead and try mention these enormous massacres of Cantonese. I guarantee what you can give to Cantonese I will give 10x more to you Hokkien shit or Northern Chinese.
Speaking of raped, butchered, starved to death....... a complete joke if we can compare with the rest of China. I haven't even mention the conquests of northern China 20x by nomadic warriors from the north.

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