Talk:2016

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2016

Can you remove one of the following images in November?

Janet Reno or Konstantinos Stephanopoulos. Reason: There's no room for a forth image. Thank you. 206.45.11.108 (talk) 13:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - the current 4 images fit, even on the widest screen setting. Arjayay (talk) 13:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Alice Drummond

Removed as lacking notability. Just makes the minimum of non-English articles, but all articles are stubs and/or clones of the English article with no local content and consist largely of a list of film appearances. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2016

Can you remove two things? Gisela May as per WP:RY, And the hidden note that says, "Per Wikipedia:Recent years, please add in people with nine non-English articles at the time of their death. Other people can be listed in Deaths in November 2016." Thank you. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 21:06, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done Gisela May removed. Hidden note modified. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:40, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Harambe

I would like to update the deaths section of the article and add Harambe on may 28, 2016 2601:84:8900:414B:B536:9BFF:CA80:FDA7 (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

•  Not done as Harambe himself clearly fails WP:RY and the event isn't significant enough to be included in the article anyway. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2016

In Deaths Section, please add:

• [[December * December 7 – Junaid Jamshed, Islamic Preacher; former Pakistani TV Personality, Recording Artist and Air Force Engineer (b. 1964)]] TigerBoss Waqas (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

 Not done He clearly fails the minimum criteria at WP:RY and there is nothing in his article to suggest he is sufficiently notable for inclusion. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 02:58, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Sure he has pages in six languages versus nine, but he was still a very significant person. His article says he was 'one of the "World's Most Influential Muslims"' and news of his death is still dominating the media in South Asia. Further, he in fact is a leader of the Tablighi Jamaat movement which is a school of thought within Sunni Islam and is said to currently have 150 million followers (see him mentioned here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablighi_Jamaat#Notable_members). His 1987 hit song from his former musical career is said to be "the unofficial national anthem of Pakistan" by the BBC World Service (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Dil_Pakistan). He was a South Asian icon known across the Indian Subcontinent; and India has the largest population diaspora in the world while Pakistan has the sixth largest. Google Trends also proves him to be consistently more popular than even many of the other people on this list (you can use the 'compare' feature on Google Trends). Furthermore, hundreds of thousands are expected at his funeral. So he was indeed "sufficiently notable". 15:52, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Per WP:Recent years guidelines.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  16:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Joseph Mascolo

He meets criteria, barely, but his career doesn't look too notable - mostly consisting of side roles in soap operas. I understand many people remember his villains, but objectively, I think he could be left out. Opinions? — Yerpo ^Eh? 09:54, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2016

Death: Nov 11. Victor Bailey (musician) American bass player born: 1960 92.109.98.138 (talk) 14:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

 Not done He fails the minimum criteria at WP:RY (less than 9 non-English articles at the time of death). DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:39, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

note

Just a little note, when the December section is bigger, can you add in an image of Alan Thicke? Thanks. Not now, but when there's more room. 206.45.11.108 (talk) 23:35, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

He doesn't look like the next most notable person from December. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 07:01, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Can his image be here if somebody replaces Quan Gabriel's image for somebody that is a non-entertainer? 206.45.42.137 (talk) 14:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Craig Sager

Sager's death was covered in the "British"., "French"., "German"., "Canadian"., and "Japanese". presses, just to name a few. His death was featured on the "front page". of the New York Times and was commemorated by all thirty teams in the world's largest basketball organization.

I would contend that he is a noteworthy exception to the WP:RY guideline on the number of non-English articles. Furthermore, I feel that this matter is worthy of review by more than one singular editor. Saget53 07:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. I had never heard of him before reading this post, and after reading the article on him, I just don't think a sports reporter known for his ugly suits is that internationally significant. -- Irn (talk) 15:08, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I would also point to the fact that Sager is now featured in the Recent Deaths section on the front page of Wikipedia. Good enough for the front page, but not good enough for the 2016 article? Saget 53 06:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

The two are not related. The front page section is more like a traditional news portal and (sadly) very US-biased, while WP:RY serve as a compilation of the most important events worldwide that year, and we try to avoid bias like that. — Yerpo ^Eh? 06:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't think that covering this national sports league automatically makes a journalist internationally important. Overriding guidelines on this one would increase bias towards American entertainment even further. — Yerpo ^Eh? 16:27, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2016

Once there is more room, can you please add in an image of Zsa Zsa Gabor? Because we need one more female to end it off with the years.

206.45.42.137 (talk) 00:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done I added this now. It was a space issue before, and an astronaut and a Nobel winner were more notable even if you take into account gender bias Valentina Cardoso (talk) 19:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I wanted that image because the other image of Gabor was incorrect. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 20:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2016

Can you revert Chyna's image? I don't find her notable other than the fact she was a wrestler. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 02:17, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

I strongly agree, so I've changed it. Cheers, -- Irn (talk) 02:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Why headphone jack remove of iPhone 7 and Trump stuffs not included?

The iPhone 7's headphone jack removal is highly notable among the world. So is Donald Trump's election, which posed a lot of worldwide controversy, hence is notable enough more than local but also global, more than any other president in Wikipedia's history (the only ones Wikipedia faced were young Bush and Obama). Why can't any of them gain any inclusion? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 01:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Like both, they both posed worldwide controversy, which is highly notable. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 01:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Strongly disagree with inclusion of either/both based on WP:RY and previous consensus since WP:RY was implemented. Neither had any lasting impact; merely making the news is insufficient. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 03:21, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

While I understand that elections are not normally included under WP:RY, would the circumstances under which Donald Trump won the election (by winning the electoral collage without winning the popular vote) have enough international significance in and of itself to suggest its inclusion? --FactualCollector7d1 (talk) 18:02, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

No. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Agree with Derby. Firstly, iPhone 7 "news" is pure trivia. Secondly, the consensus is to exclude national polls and other such routine local democratic processes, unless there is a good reason for making an exception. For now, the consequence of Trump's election is a large amount of hot air, so I don't really see a reason. That said, if he later turns out to be as influential and notorious internationally as, say, JFK, the inclusion of him being elected could be considered later. — Yerpo ^Eh? 08:26, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Kennedy you say? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 09:45, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Roosevelt is perhaps a better example. — Yerpo ^Eh? 20:28, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Trump election should be included. The nomination and election absolutely dominated the headlines for over 9 months. For 9 months there was not a single day for any major U.S. newspaper without a Trump-related headline or article on the front page, with unprecedented international coverage of a U.S. campaign. It also represented only the 5th time the electoral college vote was different than the popular vote result. It also represents the first time a true outsider (no previous public office held and no previous military experience) was elected U.S. President. Trump's election, the campaign, and even the nomination process, clearly meets the "three-continent" rule under WP:RY. Both of Bill Clinton's elections in 1992 and 1996 are included in those respective Wikipedia pages of yearly events, as is George Bush Sr's election (1988), and both of Ronald Reagan's 2 terms (1980 and 1984). Definitely newsworthy and international enough to include. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.113.88.104 (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2016

Can you add in these two?

• December 22 – Miruts Yifter, Ethiopian long distance runner (b. 1944)
• December 23 – Heinrich Schiff, Austrian cellist (b. 1951)

Both of them met WP:RY before they died. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 15:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done Cheers, -- Irn (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2016

Can you revert to revision 756394185 by Elephantpink? The other names also fail WP:RY too. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 13:40, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! -- Irn (talk) 14:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Vesna Vulović

@Valentina Cardoso: She meets the specific WP:RY criteria for deaths, but seems best known for what happened to her, rather than what she did. I'm not sure she should be here. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:04, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I did wonder about that beforehand. For example, if the recipient of a medical breakthrough had 25 articles, would they be mentioned, or only the surgeon? Valentina Cardoso (talk) 16:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

This is a tricky one. She is only notable through chance rather than any deliberate action which would normally be grounds for exclusion. However she has been in the Guinness Book of Records for 40+ years which could be a reason for inclusion. The sheer number of interwiki articles well beyond the minimum would seem to lean towards inclusion. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:58, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Definitely exclude. We've established that sole survivor, longest survivor, oldest etc. doesn't confer international notability because it's based on chance, not something they did. Jim Michael (talk) 02:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

George Michael

He was a global figure who's music will be heard by many generations to come he deserves his photo in the December section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edge4life42 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

No room right now. Rusted AutoParts 01:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Disagree – Replace an entertainer in order for George Michael's to be in here. Replace someone for someone who is not American or an Entertainer (e.g. Replace Anton Yelchin's image for someone like Vittorio Merloni or Quan Gabriel for João Havelange). I respect who should be on here. I rather wait for 2017 rather than anything else. Besides, I'm trying to revert an IP's vandalism. That IP has a 124 in it. Trying to stop it is hard. And I think Michael's image should be more notable than Gabriel's image. Do you see what I'm getting to? 206.45.42.137 (talk) 02:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Unless enough space becomes available to add another image the only solution will be to remove someone further up the page. The most likely candidate will be Janet Reno who, while known outside the US, does not seem to have directly involved in any international activity. Having tested the layout with Reno removed it is also necessary to move the markup for John Glenn up the page which moves the image to slightly above December, which I don't see as a major issue. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 07:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2016

Can you add in Ashot Anastasian? He meets WP:RY.

• December 26 – Ashot Anastasian, Armenian chess grandmaster (b. 1964) 206.45.11.108 (talk) 04:41, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done — Yerpo ^Eh? 07:38, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2016

Can you add in Claude Gensac? She meets WP:RY.

• • Claude Gensac, French actress (b. 1927) 206.45.11.108 (talk) 22:47, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I would argue that she does not merit inclusion. Her English article consists of a single line and a list of films. Many other language articles are similar, which suggests she is not sufficiently internationally notable. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

So, leave her out? 206.45.11.108 (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Unless there is consensus that she should be included. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay. 206.45.11.108 (talk) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2016

Could Phife Dawg be added in to the March death section? He meets WP:RY, as do A Tribe Called Quest.

• March 22
  • Phife Dawg, American rapper (A Tribe Called Quest) (b. 1970)

•  Not done – Did not set forward at WP:RY at the time of death. Also, there is a note too telling you that you cannot add him because of that. 206.45.11.108 (talk) 21:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

C. Martin Croker, Sept 17

Entertainer, animator - created "Adult Swim" on Cartoon Network. Deserves a mention. 24.39.192.122 (talk) 13:29, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Definitely not - he has no international notability. Jim Michael (talk) 14:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2016

Can you remove Glenn Frey's image? Reason: There is no room for five images in January. And you also please remove Juan Gabriel's image because there's too many images in the August section. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  06:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Actually, the consensus is on the anonymous user's side. I removed Frey's image because it breaks layout and because there are too many American enterntainers represented already. Juan Gabriel's image is ok as far as layout is concerned, so I left it. — Yerpo ^Eh? 06:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2016

Can you add in these two? They both met WP:RY before they died.

• December 29
  • Néstor Gonçalves Uruguayan footballer (b. 1936)
  • Ferdinand Kübler, Swiss racing cyclist (b. 1919)

Thank you. 206.45.42.137 (talk) 14:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 14:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)