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:is it possible that the people involved are unaware of the image's presence on wikipedia, Orph? - and is it reasonable to wonder if this might legitimately be seen to contravene one's [[Personality Rights]]? I'm not really sure that it's appropriate to keep the image, even should consensus be clear in that direction... in the nicest possible way, I hope it doesn't come to that though! cheers, [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] ([[User talk:Privatemusings|talk]]) 06:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
:is it possible that the people involved are unaware of the image's presence on wikipedia, Orph? - and is it reasonable to wonder if this might legitimately be seen to contravene one's [[Personality Rights]]? I'm not really sure that it's appropriate to keep the image, even should consensus be clear in that direction... in the nicest possible way, I hope it doesn't come to that though! cheers, [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] ([[User talk:Privatemusings|talk]]) 06:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:: Well, the problem is that you could say that about every image (and arguably article) on Wikipedia that involves a person, living or with living inheritors. I'm very uncomfortable with using such a wide-ranging rationale to delete an image without some wider community consensus, in the form of policy or guidelines. [[User:Orpheus|Orpheus]] ([[User talk:Orpheus|talk]]) 08:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
:: Well, the problem is that you could say that about every image (and arguably article) on Wikipedia that involves a person, living or with living inheritors. I'm very uncomfortable with using such a wide-ranging rationale to delete an image without some wider community consensus, in the form of policy or guidelines. [[User:Orpheus|Orpheus]] ([[User talk:Orpheus|talk]]) 08:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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::: I share your concern [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APrivatemusings&diff=247929462&oldid=247928105], which is exactly why I think this sort of thing may be better handled on a case by case basis rather than through gameable, vague and controversial guidelines - bad facts make bad law. Here we have what looks like a private picture with pretty clearly embarrassing content. The photographer ''may'' have the right to the copyright of the picture, but the subjects do retain personality rights and basic human dignity. Deletion here seems consistent with the spirit of BLP and may be an excellent case for [[WP:IAR]].--<span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 04:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' Indoor photographs of recognizable people require model permission. No OTRS has been filed. This image lacks necessary personality rights. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 23:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' Indoor photographs of recognizable people require model permission. No OTRS has been filed. This image lacks necessary personality rights. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 23:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC) |
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*:Durova, can you point us to the relevant Wikipedia rule? I'm looking for something a little more concrete than "she's standing there in her underwear, so it's common sense." [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 04:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC) |
*:Durova, can you point us to the relevant Wikipedia rule? I'm looking for something a little more concrete than "she's standing there in her underwear, so it's common sense." [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 04:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC) |
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- Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 00:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- That's a Commons image. I don't think IfD has jurisdiction. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 06:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete Such poor quality, there is no purpose this image could usefully serve. Ariel♥Gold 23:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Also unfree. – How do you turn this on (talk) 03:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Unfree how; its a screen shot, and it is directly encyclopedic , and it is a comment on google's relationship with the encyclopeda wikipedia. How do you turn, you are everywhere I turn these days. How and why is that? Ceoil sláinte 04:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's unfree because it's a screenshot of copyrighted software, Internet Explorer. I commented here following a link from your talk page. – How do you turn this on (talk) 12:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete I seriously doubt that this is an image of an official no trespassing sign, considering the wording of the warning. More likely it is either a created image, or something used as a joke. Additionally, the article it was placed into is about the legalities of trespassing, not joke signs, and already has sufficient images to illustrate the subject. This image is serving no useful purpose. Ariel♥Gold 22:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete - Uploader specifically says he created it for his userpage, and says he doesn't want it in any articles. Thus, it is not helpful to the encyclopedic project. Ariel♥Gold 22:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- outdated image; others exist that have been updated. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete No longer relevant information. Ariel♥Gold 22:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete I am dubious about the copyright status of this image, and feel there are clear personality rights issues too Privatemusings (talk) 03:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete simply based on the second throwaway account magically appearing to fix the license status to read exactly what it needed to over a year later. Something seems questionable. The original uploader took the time to upload these images, add them to articles and when they were questioned the first time around couldn't find the time to come and talk about them.--Crossmr (talk) 04:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Marginal encyclopedic value combined with the issues well stated above.--Kubigula (talk) 05:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This image has been nominated before.
- Keep. We have no reason to doubt the copyright status given by the image uploader, and his not contributing other things to the project doesn't make this contribution invalid. It's as encyclopedic as the rest of the article. I don't think we should remove an image that hasn't caused any complaints from copyright holders or people featured in the image in the two or so years it's been visible here. Orpheus (talk) 06:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- is it possible that the people involved are unaware of the image's presence on wikipedia, Orph? - and is it reasonable to wonder if this might legitimately be seen to contravene one's Personality Rights? I'm not really sure that it's appropriate to keep the image, even should consensus be clear in that direction... in the nicest possible way, I hope it doesn't come to that though! cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 06:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the problem is that you could say that about every image (and arguably article) on Wikipedia that involves a person, living or with living inheritors. I'm very uncomfortable with using such a wide-ranging rationale to delete an image without some wider community consensus, in the form of policy or guidelines. Orpheus (talk) 08:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- I share your concern [1], which is exactly why I think this sort of thing may be better handled on a case by case basis rather than through gameable, vague and controversial guidelines - bad facts make bad law. Here we have what looks like a private picture with pretty clearly embarrassing content. The photographer may have the right to the copyright of the picture, but the subjects do retain personality rights and basic human dignity. Deletion here seems consistent with the spirit of BLP and may be an excellent case for WP:IAR.--Kubigula (talk) 04:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the problem is that you could say that about every image (and arguably article) on Wikipedia that involves a person, living or with living inheritors. I'm very uncomfortable with using such a wide-ranging rationale to delete an image without some wider community consensus, in the form of policy or guidelines. Orpheus (talk) 08:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Indoor photographs of recognizable people require model permission. No OTRS has been filed. This image lacks necessary personality rights. DurovaCharge! 23:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Durova, can you point us to the relevant Wikipedia rule? I'm looking for something a little more concrete than "she's standing there in her underwear, so it's common sense." WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - Durova might not be able to point to the policy, but I can point to the law: personality rights. And the policy is here: Wikipedia:BLP#Basic_human_dignity. Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Copyrighted logo, clearly not self-made. Ilmari Karonen (talk) 09:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unless the uploader can prove he actually did create the logo, through OTRS. Ariel♥Gold 22:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- This incarnation of the character is only discussed for half a line, and there is no discussion of the incarnation's actual appearance. The article also currently uses far too many non-free images. J Milburn (talk) 11:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comments or more aptly here, general notes... The source product isn't listed for release until mid-November and there may, not likely but may, be additional information at that point to flesh out the section. That would also be notes as to why the character design was altered for the game. That said, a screen cap from the game would be preferable to a digitally watermarked promotional image. - J Greb (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Image is used twice to illustrate a fairly minor appearance of the character. An image is not needed, as what the character looks like is not discussed, and the appearance itself is not really discussed. J Milburn (talk) 11:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Part of the issue here is that the section in Hal Jordan could, and probably should be folded into Green Lantern in other media. And with that it becomes an issue of hair-splitting, something that also affects the preceding and following images. The "... in other media" articles relating to comics characters tend to use image to shorthand how the character design(s) were altered or handled for the spin off media. Looking at this specific case, Green Lantern, pointing to four of the five relevant character articles isn't a good option since the intent is to convey "the show interpreted the character in this way."
That being said, there is a level of consistency with the Stewart and Jordan, the relevant character for this image, across the other media adaptations, the DCU vs MK being the notable exception. With The Batman, the uses of the character are noted and there are better frames that convey the appearance of the full character. But it would boil down to "And this animation studio drew the standard costume this way when compared to the more notable 'DC Animated Universe' standard." - J Greb (talk) 22:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Article has too many non-free images, and this one does not seem to be particularly needed. The appearance of this version of the character does not seem different to the majority of the others, and it is not really discussed. A mention of the appearance would suffice- an image is not needed. J Milburn (talk) 11:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nomination. Additionally, the image is not of very good quality, and would not significantly increase a reader's understanding of the subject with all the other images on the page. Ariel♥Gold 22:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- This nom contains the major quibble I've got with the set of three. "Article has too many non-free images," is a slight stretch. Too many with tenuous reasoning and/or covering the same ground, yes. Too many period, I'm not so sure considering the general scope of the "<Comics character> in other media" type articles. In the case of this image, there is the potential for an image accompanying text since the character design used was the one used when the character first saw print c. 1960. But as ArielGold points out, this image would be hard pressed to show the variation. - J Greb (talk) 23:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Image is not requird- it is used on a list article which has far too many non-free images (and would have more if more "this is what the character looks like" images were thrown in) and the physical appearance of this character is not at all discussed. As such, this use is purely decorative. J Milburn (talk) 11:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Appearance of the character is not discussed, article has far too many non-free images. This image is not required, it is purely decorative. J Milburn (talk) 11:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Used only on a list of characters article. The physical appearance of this particular character is not discussed, and so this image is not needed. J Milburn (talk) 11:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Used in a list of characters article. The physical appearance of the character is not discussed, meaning that this is a purely decorative image. J Milburn (talk) 11:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Appearance of the character is not discussed, meaning that this image is purely decorative. The characters appearance in this game is mentioned only in passing. J Milburn (talk) 11:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, not needed since the character has no significant part in the article the image is in. Does not increase the reader's understanding of the subject. Ariel♥Gold 22:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Appearance of the character is unimportant and not discussed. This image is purely decorative and used on an article that uses too many non-free images anyway. J Milburn (talk) 11:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- The appearance of the character is not discussed- this image is purely decorative. J Milburn (talk) 12:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Unusued, apparently absent uploader, no context and apparently unencyclopedic. J Milburn (talk) 12:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Image used only for vandalism purposes, as a replacement for totally unrelated legitimate images. Uploader is indef-blocked. Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 14:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- There are already two non-free images on this very short article- only one screenshot is required. J Milburn (talk) 16:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Unencyclopedic Low quality orphaned personal image. OsamaK 18:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Extremely small image, barely able to make out what it is, not of sufficient quality to use in any article to illustrate kayaking. Ariel♥Gold 22:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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