User talk:Schwyz

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Tobyc75 (talk) 19:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Welcome. I do hope you are here to help translate many of the Swiss municipalities from German as most of them are empty stubs. I was almost tempted to AFD Subdivisions of the canton of Valais however until I saw the purpose of the Bern page given the recent change in divisions. I hope you can expand this or at least turn it into a disambiguation page. Most of the articles look like Bure, Switzerland. It would be great if you could expand them from German wikipedia into english! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 16:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

That's a big pity. These articles are neglected. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 16:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Breggia

I hope you are going to fix all the incoming links to what you (perfectly reasonably) turned into a disambiguation page. Cheers, Ian Spackman (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:OWN - fix yourself if you like. Your hope is in vain. It is not my duty to do anything. This is a voluntary project.Schwyz (talk) 01:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:OWN is of no relevance that I can see. But think about what you did, which was to turn a lot of perfectly good links to a river into not very good links to a dab page. In other words you made Wikipedia a somewhat worse encyclopædia. And now you say that you intend to leave it to other people to clear up the little messes you made. I suggest that you review that decision. Please also read WP:USURPTITLE, which states rather clearly that ‘If you do decide to boldly usurp a title, it is strongly recommended that you modify all pages that link to the old title so they will link to the new title.’

Incidentally, the naming convention which applies when disambiguating rivers in Switzerland (and in most of Europe) is here: Inn (river), rather than Inn River, for instance.

Cheers, Ian Spackman (talk) 08:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

@ "But think about what you did, which was to turn a lot of perfectly good links to a river into not very good links to a dab page." - This is a misrepresentation. Incoming links referred to the river AND the municipality. So, I made WP not "somewhat worse encyclopædia" but indeed "somewhat better encyclopædia". No more surprises to the municipality link users. Instead both parties got a dab. And, even better, tools and editors can perfectly see that there is need of work. People specialized in fixing this, e.g. with WP:AWB can do so.

@ " And now you say that you intend to leave it to other people to clear up the little messes you made." - I didn't say this.

@ USURPTITLE, it reads: "If there are so many pages linking to the old title, that you feel you cannot make all the changes yourself, or for any other reason, you feel you cannot change them all yourself, place the template {{converted}} at the top of the new page you created on the old title. This will let others know that this move was recently made, and that all these changes are necessary." - Next time a will place the template. Thanks for pointing. Maybe next time on informing a user, you may change the surround wording. Maybe just direct the user to USURPTITLE.

@ Inn River - I think I created a new river page by the Inn River convention. Don't recall which it was, maybe you can just move it. Schwyz (talk) 11:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sense River

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Real Audiencia of Buenos Aires page move

Hello. Can I ask why did you rename (move) this page? Unless I missed something, there is no discussion or consensus. I would have appreciated a discussion in the article's talk page and also a discussion, or at the very east having informed the WikiProject Argentina which, as shown in the talk page is very interested in articles relating to Argentina's history. Before we return it to the way it was, pending discussion and consensus, I would like to hear your reasoning. You can answer here but it would be more appropriate to do it in the article's talk page or open a case in the wikiproject. Thank you -- Alexf^(talk) 22:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Use of word "audience"

Contribution of User:TriniMuñoz moved to: Talk:Audiencia_Real Schwyz (talk) 10:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mita Aporo

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Renaming Venezuelan states

Just to let you know there is a naming discussion at Talk:Falcón which affects the categories and articles on Venezuelan states which you have moved and requested deletions for. Green Giant (talk) 22:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Redirects

why should I, if there is a 1:1 relation? What if later people decide to have the article at "Province of Cartagena" (B), instead of Cartagena Province (A) then in the above linked article there is [A|B] linking to B. And one cannot determine from What-Links-Here what is used in texts. Texts can use as link what they have as text if there is 1:1 relation. Schwyz (talk) 18:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Because it's messy. Sure you can't determine from "What Links Here" what is used in the text, but are we really going to propose that the article title be changed to Cartagena Province instead of Province of Cartagena because the former is the easier, quicker English form? (In the example given, the use of "poodle" should lead to the creation of an article on poodles.) But I'll let this one go because the Manual of Style does say "Instead, write simply poodle and let the system handle the rest." My apologies for being rash.

Another concern that I do have is the extensive creation of red links. As the Manual of Style recommends, "one should write the article first." You've created many Wikilinks for audiencias like the Audiencia of Seville, Aragon, Las Palmas, etc. But do these audiencias really need articles in the English-language Wikipedia? Is there actually even source material—not primary sources, but secondary sources—for these audiencias out there? (From what I've seen, I would say no.) Most of these don't even have articles in the Spanish-language Wikipedia. Unlike the American audiencias, these audiencias remain primarily judicial districts. In America, the audiencias became an important focus of geographic identity, seen by the fact that most of the South American nations that emerged are based on these audiencias—not on viceroyalties nor pre-Columbian entities. So, that is why more has been written about them and why the deserve individual articles, or at least redirects to the corresponding viceroyalty or captaincy general when there is a one-to-one correspondence.

As to the use of the term cancillería, I would just omit it after the first mention. This is what both the documents of the time and the historiography in English and Spanish do, since the latter term is not that essential. Best, TriniMuñoz (talk) 01:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Mita Aporo

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Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Kudpung (talk) 05:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Why did you remove the notice with the reason "sources are given"? Just because they exist does not mean that the article will not be deleted. Furthermore, what do you not understand about "Please do not remove or change this AfD message until the issue is settled"? Please do not remove the notice and instead comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mita Aporo. I strongly advise you to read WP:AfD to better understand this process. —fetch·comms 23:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, what do you not understand about "Please do not remove or change this AfD message until the issue is settled"? - Nothing. It is a very clear message: until the issue is solved. It is solved, sources are given in the article. Schwyz (talk) 01:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I stand corrected: I thought it was again this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mita_Aporo&oldid=376245060 - the bio template. Ok, sorry for my mistake. best regards. Schwyz (talk) 01:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Very, well, thank you for the explanation. Sometimes, it feels as if there really are too many deletion methods here. —fetch·comms 01:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

;-) Schwyz (talk) 01:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Renaming of NZ provinces

Hello, I see that you are doing a lot of work on provinces all around the world. You've moved New Ulster, New Munster and New Leinster to new article names, adding 'Province'. Your rationale was to have them "like others in Category:Provinces of New Zealand.

First of all, thanks for not just moving the articles, but to then also tidy up the respective template. But it would have been much more appropriate if you had dropped a note on the talk page of one of the articles, or gone to the NZ politics taskforce (as per the banners on the talk pages) with this proposal first. The difference between these first three Provinces, and the later 10 Provinces, is that the names of the later Provinces are still in use these days, so the articles do need that disambiguation, whereas the first three names are not in use at all. So if you had asked, we would probably have come to the conclusion of not moving the articles.

I shall bring this up with the taskforce and we'll go from there. If you come across other articles within the scope of that taskforce, please be so kind and ask first whether there's support for things like that. Please drop a talkback template onto my talkpage if you wish to respond. Schwede66 00:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Bau Island

See Talk:Bau Island Schwyz (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Islands of Fiji

Kadavu

Hi Schwyz, I see you converted Kadavu into a disambig. Per WP:FIXDABLINKS, could you clean up the links that now point to a disambig? Thanks, --JaGa^talk 11:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I try, but sometimes it's impossible what the article author had in mind when creating the link. Schwyz (talk) 11:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no problem there. We definitely don't want any guesses - it's just a request to do the straightforward cleanup. --JaGa^talk 12:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Tavua and Lomaiviti

Oh, and these too. :) Tavua links and Lomaiviti links --JaGa^talk 11:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

There is a lot of bad links in the Fiji related articles.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Ah_Koy&diff=prev&oldid=376923737

* http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Burebasaga_Confederacy&diff=prev&oldid=376923521

* http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Local_government_in_Fiji&action=historysubmit&diff=376923251&oldid=373297274 wrong links for districts

Schwyz (talk) 11:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Another cleanup request

Throw Province of Pomerania and José Serrano on the pile of dabs needing some WP:FIXDABLINKS lovin'. --JaGa^talk 17:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hold your horses on Philippine provinces move fest

I still maintain those moves had ZERO discussion, let alone consensus. I will move all of them back except for those which are already in dabbed prior to the mass moves. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Mass moves of User:Schwyz. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Island moves

Hi Schwyz,

I must say I'm getting very concerned about what I'm seeing in your edit history. You've moved a ton of islands to capital-I island names, like Teja island -> Teja Island, Kadavu -> Kadavu Island, and my personal favorite, Isla Colon -> Colon Island. I've counted at least 20 moves like this, and doubt these moves have been discussed. What's more, I'm not convinced that Island is definitely part of the most common proper name for these islands. Moving Greenland to Greenland Island would be bad, because we all know it isn't called that. I'm worried these moves could be a similar problem. --JaGa^talk 09:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)