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Name change?

I think this article might need a name change as the news develops. It might be worth noting FedEx and/or the airport in the title rather than just the city if there is more association with the former. Sewageboy (talk) 07:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The shooting didn't occur at the airport, though. I am open to a title modeled after San Francisco UPS shooting, though. Love of Corey (talk) 07:32, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My bad on the airport part; disregard that part of the idea. Sewageboy (talk) 07:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Love of Corey (talk) 07:41, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also consider 2021 Indianapolis Fedex shooting (or Indianapolis Fedex shooting) a better page name. – Athaenara ✉ 09:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it be easier to have all mass shootings for a given year start with the year, i.e. "2021 <location> + <business or notable organisation involved> shooting"? That way people could just search for 2021 shootings wikipedia and immediately get a list? Oathed (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This comment just makes me immeasurably sad. But yes, I agree. 152.132.8.134 (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In many cases, the year isn't needed in the article. There are already articles such as list of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 & cats such as Category:2021 mass shootings for the purpose you state. Jim Michael (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the article move! The original title was written out of drowsiness, so I apologize for that flub. Love of Corey (talk) 19:41, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of Sikh victims

Should the mention of the victims religion be included? This, in my own opinion, will spark unnecessary motive discussion. While working on the 2021 Boulder shooting, there was someone who added the race of the victims. It was reverted as the shooting was preliminary and no motive was established.

I feel as this shooting is very preliminary, the inclusion of the religion of some of the victims is unneeded. Kellis7 21:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that currently we don’t have evidence that the victims religion is relevant and that we should wait to see if their religion was a factor before we add it.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 03:23, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Half of the fatalities were members of the Sikh community. 108.53.222.173 (talk) 04:12, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are Sikhs greatly over-represented among employees at the facility? Is there any evidence that anyone was targeted because of their religion &/or ethnicity? Jim Michael (talk) 06:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Michael, Yes, 90% of the workers of the factory were of Indian origin, and a lot of them were Sikhs. However, according to a statement, there is no evidence that they were targeted because of their religion ^[1]^[2]- Sitaphul (talk) 06:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On the same topic, which would be the most appropriate place to add these facts. Sitaphul (talk) 06:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Motivation aside, the fact that half of the victims were Sikh bears at least a brief mention. Many news sources agree:

"Sikh community responds to mass shooting at Indianapolis FedEx Ground facility". The Indianapolis Star. April 16, 2021.
"Four members of Sikh community among dead in Indianapolis FedEx shooting -group". Reuters. April 16, 2021.
Sharma, Kadambini; Som, Vishnu (April 17, 2021). "4 Sikhs Among 8 Killed In FedEx Shooting In US, Shocked India Offers Help". NDTV.com.
"Sikh community in shock after four members die in Indianapolis shooting". Hindustan Times. April 17, 2021.
Rajghatta, Chidanand (April 17, 2021). "Four Sikhs among those killed in Indianapolis FedEx carnage". The Times of India.

gobonobo ⁺ ^c 07:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sikhs make up 90% of that workforce, but only 50% of those killed, Seems that they were underrepresented. WWGB (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of representation, this is a blow to the Sikh community and is being reported as such. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 07:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That said, if you've concerns that mentioning the Sikh victims somehow insinuates a motivation, I'd support language mentioning the composition of the workforce, if clarity can be so served. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 07:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Change “committed suicide” to “died by suicide” 69.4.133.126 (talk) 19:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The request doesn’t improve the article. Ferkjl (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MLP mention

An investigation of archived content from Hole's deleted Facebook accounts revealed no potential motives, as posts on the account were largely related to Hole's love of the cartoon My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and specifically the character Applejack. - how the fragment in bold is relevant to the former part of sentence - his motives? --Kuracyja (talk) 22:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article discusses how investigators think it might prove a link to potential alt-right groups but ultimately the investigation is still ongoing and the link is not proven. However, it's currently some of the only information known on motive. Deku link (talk) 23:29, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It kind of suggests that there may be more fans like him that are murderers and/or sickos and/or psychos. I was a Brony (fan of MLP) myself for 6 years, I can confirm there are fans from all sides of political compass (yes even the alt- groups), but suggesting that writing I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her could be a motive to kill people is a bit of ridiculous - there are hundreds of Bronies writing such words everyday about their favourite ponies, including Applejack, perparator's favourite. Does this mean they will draw a gun and repeat his deed? I don't think so. (I know, WP:NOR.) --Kuracyja (talk) 23:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indianapolis-fedex-shooting-4-sikhs-among-8-killed-in-us-shocked-india-offers-help-2415591

[2] ttps://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/four-sikhs-among-those-killed-in-indianapolis-fedex-carnage/articleshow/82111718.cms

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 ''An investigation of archived content from Hole's deleted Facebook accounts revealed no potential motives, '''as posts on the account were largely related to Hole's love of the cartoon My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and specifically the character Applejack'''.'' - how the fragment in bold is relevant to the former part of sentence - his motives? --[[User:Kuracyja|Kuracyja]] ([[User talk:Kuracyja|talk]]) 22:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 :The article discusses how investigators think it might prove a link to potential alt-right groups but ultimately the investigation is still ongoing and the link is not proven. However, it's currently some of the only information known on motive. [[User:Deku link|Deku link]] ([[User talk:Deku link|talk]]) 23:29, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
-::It kind of suggests that there may be more fans like him that are murderers and/or sickos. I was a Brony (fan of MLP) myself for 6 years, I can confirm there are fans from all sides of political compass (yes even the alt- groups), but suggesting that writing ''I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her'' could be a motive to kill people is a bit of ridiculous - there are hundreds of Bronies writing such words everyday about their favourite ponies, including Applejack, perparator's favourite. Does this mean they will draw a gun and repeat his deed? I don't think so. (I know, [[WP:NOR]].) --[[User:Kuracyja|Kuracyja]] ([[User talk:Kuracyja|talk]]) 23:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+::It kind of suggests that there may be more fans like him that are murderers and/or sickos and/or psychos. I was a Brony (fan of MLP) myself for 6 years, I can confirm there are fans from all sides of political compass (yes even the alt- groups), but suggesting that writing ''I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife, my life has no meaning without her'' could be a motive to kill people is a bit of ridiculous - there are hundreds of Bronies writing such words everyday about their favourite ponies, including Applejack, perparator's favourite. Does this mean they will draw a gun and repeat his deed? I don't think so. (I know, [[WP:NOR]].) --[[User:Kuracyja|Kuracyja]] ([[User talk:Kuracyja|talk]]) 23:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)