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:[[Churches of Christ]] is correct.
:[[Churches of Christ]] is correct.

== there's no such thing as 'Christian weight loss progs' ==

The teachings of Jesus Christ do not address 'body weight' and other nonsense. This article is in sad shape. Can we eject the ephemera, and mention the basics of her cult and machinations with solid RS's and reduce this down to her relative importance? [[Special:Contributions/50.111.52.253|50.111.52.253]] ([[User talk:50.111.52.253|talk]]) 09:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Section: Libel suits filed against Remnant Fellowship critics

@Dammitkevin, I do not understand your reasoning for reverting my previous three edits. This is a biography on Gwen Shamblin. To say "They aren't assertions about a person, they are about a court case" is ridiculous in my opinion. A large section with unreliable sources clearly violates Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The section clearly implies several things about her most of which is not sourced to secondary sources.

Note, I have created this account to discuss this without causing confusion. -PreviouslySeveralIPs (talk) 19:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Those references aren't being used to comment on Gwen Shamblin but are about the court case. Primary sources can be used in that context. You are just trying to censor information by pretending it violates WP:BLP. Dammitkevin (talk) 19:05, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Dammitkevin, I am not trying to censor anything. It seems clear to me that this violates WP:BLP. Either it has nothing to do with the subject of the article and should be removed OR it does have something to say about the person and should meet the standards of a biography of a living person, which requires secondary sources.
This is clearly synthesis of material put together from primary sources and court documents, most of which is hosted on the website which is the subject of the libel suit. Are we really basing articles about living people on websites that were sued for libel? According to WP:Identifying reliable sources, the definition of a source includes the piece of work itself, the creator of the work, the publisher of the work. Any of the three can affect reliability. Clearly, the publisher here is not a reliable source on the lawsuit as it is involved in the lawsuit, besides the fact it is a primary source. -PreviouslySeveralIPs (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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* https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Shamblin_Lara

Why is there no mention of Church support for the Smith family?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_v._Smith

Why is there no mention of the above in this article? Paige Matheson (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because instead of adding it, you just complained about it on the talk page? Jacona (talk) 10:35, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not complain, I asked a question. Maybe you should read a dictionary instead of being rude. Paige Matheson (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I found a news story yesterday from the CBS affiliate in Nashville that interviews Gwen Shamblin Lara about the boy that was murdered and spankings with glue sticks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4d4L_GPQfPg Paige Matheson (talk) 17:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which church of christ?

We say she was brought up in the Church of Christ but our link goes to a disambiguation page. I'm thinking it is one of Churches of Christ as it seems to be an umbrella term. Secretlondon (talk) 19:28, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Churches of Christ is correct.

there's no such thing as 'Christian weight loss progs'

The teachings of Jesus Christ do not address 'body weight' and other nonsense. This article is in sad shape. Can we eject the ephemera, and mention the basics of her cult and machinations with solid RS's and reduce this down to her relative importance? 50.111.52.253 (talk) 09:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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