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:{{u|BaileyAcadmey}} I'm curious as to how you came across this draft; it isn't easy to find a draft unless you are looking for it. Please specify the "attacks" against you which I'm not finding. You have submitted the draft for review and it is pending. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{u|BaileyAcadmey}} I'm curious as to how you came across this draft; it isn't easy to find a draft unless you are looking for it. Please specify the "attacks" against you which I'm not finding. You have submitted the draft for review and it is pending. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


[[User:BaileyAcadmey|BaileyAcadmey]] ([[User talk:BaileyAcadmey|talk]])

I have been looking through Wikipedia for articles to edit and I came across a page for [[Nadine Ijewere]] among others that I have edited today. I accidentally closed the tab belonging to Nadine and I couldn't remember the spelling properly. In a private window in Chrome there is no history stored so I began searching for words that I remembered within the article. It turns out similar wordings were used in Oghalé's page which is not surprising because both Nadine and Oghalé are photographers within the same industry. I have a genuine interest in photographers within the UK so I started to read and look at the sources. While I started to read Oghale's page, that is when I noticed it was only a draft but within the draft, I felt the sources were credible. That is how I came across the page.
I have been looking through Wikipedia for articles to edit and I came across a page for [[Nadine Ijewere]] among others that I have edited today. I accidentally closed the tab belonging to Nadine and I couldn't remember the spelling properly. In a private window in Chrome there is no history stored so I began searching for words that I remembered within the article. It turns out similar wordings were used in Oghalé's page which is not surprising because both Nadine and Oghalé are photographers within the same industry. I have a genuine interest in photographers within the UK so I started to read and look at the sources. While I started to read Oghale's page, that is when I noticed it was only a draft but within the draft, I felt the sources were credible. That is how I came across the page.

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July 3

Request on 16:51:14, 3 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Happybusan



Happybusan (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happybusan, The draft must be supported by inline citations consisting of reliable and non-primary sources. Curbon7 (talk) 22:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:51:39, 3 July 2021 review of submission by Urju 23


If you search for "Urjumelashvili" in the search box for the page it shows the information. I don't know how to get a link that already has the surname written in the search box. What do I do? I saw another family Wikipedia article, Glonti (also a Georgian surname) and in it, they use the same site for a source in the reference list, and when you click the link there it takes you to the same site but it just says 404 გვერდი არ მოიძებნა (meaning: page not found) I don't get how that was approved if this isn't.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:How_geogen_looks_.png#/media/File:How_geogen_looks_.png - in which books the surname appears

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:How_geogen_looks_2.png#/media/File:How_geogen_looks_2.png - from which cities it originates


I'd be very thankful if you could help me out :)

Urju 23 (talk) 17:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Urju 23 The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Not every family name merits a Wikipedia article; it depends on significant coverage in independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 19:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:45:28, 3 July 2021 review of draft by Forich


I recently created the draft Draft:Ramses Ramos and submitted it for review as a new article. It received this review on July 2 2021:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

. The reviewer was User: Yeeno. I have introduced half a dozen new sources to the same draft, most of them pertaining to websites of the main TV networks in Colombia (Caracol Television and RCN Television), and others from important local news outlets (i.e. El Tiempo (Colombia)). Please review whether the inclusion of these new sources is enough to address the defficiencies pointed out by Yeeno in his review. Pinging @Yeeno: to see if he can comment here as well.

Forich (talk) 19:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Forich, The article was certainly improved with your addition of reliable sources. The only ask I have is that you remove the IMDb reference, as IMDb is not an acceptable reference. I think it's much better than when it was declined, and you are always welcome to resubmit the draft, but it is up to the next reviewer to determine whether it passes either our notability criteria for actors or our general notability criteria. Curbon7 (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 4

05:30:54, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Champ Imi model


Champ Imi model (talk) 05:30, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated re-submission without doing anything to address the issues raised in prior declines is grounds for a rejection or deletion. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 08:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, if you are not Champ Imi himself, you should not be using that username and if you are, you should not be writing about yourself on Wikipedia. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 08:08, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

06:49:11, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Ajaya Kumar Behera 1


Ajaya Kumar Behera 1 (talk) 06:49, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ajaya Kumar Behera 1 You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, we are interested in what independent reliable sources say about you, not what you want to say about yourself. If you just want to tell the world about yourself, you should use your preferred social media outlet. 331dot (talk) 07:44, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

08:42:27, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Jackson's official


Jackson's official (talk) 08:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Your sourcing is still very much useless. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 20:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

08:44:35, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Jackson's official


Jackson's official (talk) 08:44, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You didn’t ask a question, although your draft was rejected, meaning it will no longer be considered. Eternal Shadow Talk 18:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

08:50:09, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Flobroderick


I have now had this submission rejected twice in spite of there being reliable, verifiable sources such as main newspapers in Spain (Expansion), TechCrunch and Crunchbase. Please can someone advise me on any other ways I might be able to get this published? This is a legitimate company with more than 25 employees and they just want a simple non-marketing page on Wikipedia.

Flobroderick (talk) 08:50, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We have zero interest in what the company wants, they fail WP:NCORP and the draft is just advertising from the very first word. Theroadislong (talk) 08:58, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Flobroderick You don't have to be marketing or soliciting customers to be promotional. Wikipedia is not for merely providing information and not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. They should do that on their own website. 331dot (talk) 10:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Flobroderick I see that you declared a COI. If you are an employee or otherwise a paid representative, the Terms of Use require you to make the stricter paid editing declaration. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

20:13:21, 4 July 2021 review of submission by Premviswabharathi


I am creating wikipage for my friend who is running a study center for different universities. The institution name is Viswabharathi open school. May I know how I can do this. What I am doing is getting rejected. Premviswabharathi (talk) 20:13, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Premviswabharathi Wikipedia has articles, not wikipages. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something; it is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Sice you say you are working for a friend, please review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 20:27, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 5

Question by Champ Imi model

Hello sir How many wikipedia pages have I created? I have also made tea with news articles But they all get deleted within 24 hours Please can tell me what is the issue, why is the page of wikipedia getting deleted?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Champ Imi model (talk • contribs)

@Champ Imi model: Hello and Welcome to the AfC help desk. I am not an administrator and therefore cannot see the deleted revisions, however, according to the deletion reason, they were deleted becuase promotion is forbidden here. You might also be interested in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch, particularely its "Puffery" subsection. If you have further questions, perhaps ask them at the Teahouse rather than here because you have a bigger audience there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

02:59:09, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Akapro990

the personality mentioned is a very notable one in North India and is one of the best yoga teachers on the planet. He is loved by almost everyone and only a few people on earth without any wantings and controversies as he is a Jain Monk under the digambara tradition. Pls tell me if I need to do something on my part otherwise please approve this article. Akapro990 (talk) 02:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. No sources, no article, no debate. Your argument above also doesn't help your case. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 03:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

03:58:33, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Sudjack8


My article has declined many times by informing that this is more likely to be an advertisement but its wrong. Please help me to create my first Wikipedia article as approved. Please help me where I am wrong.

My article as- The FloralMart is a Indian florist and gift destinations, they offer home delivery of fresh flowers bouquets, cakes and personalized gift items with same-day delivery, next-day delivery. It is a venture of Sankhs Groups India and founded by Aditya Nath Mishra in 03 June 2019. It is a registered brand at the Office of Intellectual Property India.

History

The company was registered in Kanpur City of Uttar Pradesh state on 03 June 2019, by its parent company Sankhs Groups. In June 5 2019, the company was registered on Amazon India. In August 2019, the company was registered on Paytm India.

Retail categories

Though originally a flowers and gift retailer, the company has also expended into the E-commerce sector. . It has expended their business into the cakes and other gift items >.

Products and services

Fresh Flowers Bouquet, Cakes, Greeting Cards, and other gift items.

References     Brand in India- The FloralMart®. "THE FLORALMART - IP India Trademark Details". trademarks.iphawk.com. Retrieved 2021-07-03. Amazon.in Seller History - The FloralMart®. "The FloralMart". Amazon.in. Retrieved 2021-07-03. "Valentine's Day Week List 2021: Gifts for every day of the week - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2021-07-04. "Amazon sale offers: Celebrate Valentine's Day with Amazon's One-Stop Valentine's Shop for bouquets, greeting cards & more - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2021-07-04.

Category:E-commerce

Sudjack8 (talk) 03:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Draft:The FloralMart
Amazon.in is worthless as a source (online storefront), trademark details are worthless (too sparse/connexion to subject) and the two Times of India pages appear to be non-sequiturs. None of your sources are acceptable. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 04:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

04:42:42, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Ramil Salihar


Ramil Salihar (talk) 04:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC) Can you please check for verification of this article. I have developed sources and changed some of them. Will be glad to receive a feedback.[reply]

05:55:20, 5 July 2021 review of submission by OliverForest


I feel like the article I wrote that got denied for Erik Brandt and the Urban Hillbilly Quartet fulfills the noteriety criteria.

It has multiple articles from multiple regional print sources: The Kalamazoo Gazette (ref 1), The Ripsaw in Duluth (ref 8, 33), The Twin Cities Daily Planet (ref 13), The Isthmus in Madison (ref 14), The Pulse in the Twin Cities (ref 20), Seven Days in Vermont (ref 50), Onions AV Club in Madison (ref 70), and Skope in Boston (ref 73)

It also has an article in national music magazine Paste (ref 21).

I feel like this covers the "has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself" criteria.

If it doesn't, why?

Thanks!

OliverForest (talk) 05:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@OliverForest: Not about notability, I am just curious: In Draft:Erik Brandt and the Urban Hillbilly Quartet you use a bunch of sources that read like "Stonehocker 1999", something my head can't convert to the data needed to identify (and possibly access) the souce in question. Could you please elaborate what this refers to? Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

06:20:45, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Menu maharaj

why reviewer rejected the article? There are more than ten sources talking about the topic. I can't able to understand how the topic is not notable. PLZZ review again don't support the deletion of article.

Menu maharaj (talk) 06:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Menu maharaj The reason for the rejection is given at the top of the draft; please review the comments left by reviewers. It would be preferred if you had fewer high quality source rather than a large number of poor quality sources. A large number of poor quality sources is usually a strong indication that the person does not meet notability guidelines. 331dot (talk) 07:23, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

06:31:28, 5 July 2021 review of submission by 2001:D08:D8:7204:116B:E867:55D7:E74A

Would like to learn how to publish genuinely without being recognized as intended to promote something.

2001:D08:D8:7204:116B:E867:55D7:E74A (talk) 06:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something or someone. Wikipedia is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. I would suggest that before attempting to create a new article(the hardest task to perform on Wikipedia) that you first spend much time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Please also read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 07:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:50:24, 5 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by M K Mandawar


Hello dear I have created an article for a person but it has been declined. I have paid for this and the person is notable in public it is also show on first search in Google. The name of person Poonam Ankur Chha. Also you can try to search. I have added all of the related references including their links. May I know the exact reason for declined. I'll be thankful to you.

M K Mandawar (talk) 10:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@M K Mandawar: There are two things that need to be cleared up. First of all: you say I have paid for this – what does that refer to? Where (or to whom) did you pay? Secondly, you used to have a declaration on your user page (here) that you are being paid for your contributions concerning Poonam Ankur Chhabra, but you removed it half an hour ago, just before you removed the conflict of interest tag from the draft. Why did you remove the disclosure from your user page, and why did you remove the tag from the draft? Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I just realised that I have paid for this might have been a typo. Perhaps you meant to say "I have been paid for this"? --bonadea contributions talk 12:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah sorry it's a typo. M K Mandawar (talk) 16:06, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14:15:17, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Ramil Salihar


Ramil Salihar (talk) 14:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there In my article I received a feedback of reliable sources. However, I have tried many times and failed and I got a stop sign, so I cant resubmit it. I have improved references so how can I resubmit again? Or there are limited number of tries?


Ramil Salihar (talk) 14:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ramil Salihar The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further at this time. Please review the comments left by reviewers. 331dot (talk) 14:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14:52:21, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Shekhar Aman


Hi, as suggested in the morning, I've removed all the amazon and facebook links. Also, I've added 4 reliable sources as a media coverage. I cross checked the wiki page of "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Prakash_Dubey". In this wiki page also, reliable sources is of media. If its still wrong, then please help me proceed further. Shekhar Aman (talk) 14:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See the section below. Curbon7 (talk) 19:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14:55:12, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Gardenkur


Gardenkur (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gardenkur, the subject of the draft seems to be a non-ntoable government official, and the draft fails both our notability criteria for politicians and our general notability criteria. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:47:56, 5 July 2021 review of submission by 2600:1700:D4B0:301F:4C65:266F:AE29:8D42


I keep making adjustments - you will see this actor on Getty images, and many tv shows/shows for young people/children Do not understand why keeps getting rejected

2600:1700:D4B0:301F:4C65:266F:AE29:8D42 (talk) 15:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon, Getty Images, Applemusic, IMDb, TVguide, blogs and interviews are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the sources on the draft were discussed and dismissed above, with Getty being the only new source and still useless (we can't use it - too sparse). You're clearly not listening to the criticism. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 02:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

16:13:19, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Shekhar Aman


Shekhar Aman (talk) 16:13, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shekhar Aman, the draft was seen as too much of an advertisement due to the use of inline external links and a lack of reliable sources. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:58:05, 5 July 2021 review of submission by RedX8


RedX8 (talk) 17:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RedX8, You didn't ask a question, but the reviewers determined that this draft seemed more like a resume than an encyclopedic entry. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 18:57, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:18:00, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Mohamedhussein001


Mohamedhussein001 (talk) 19:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been deleted as it meets the speedy deletion criterion for advertising. The tone of the draft is wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. --Kinu t/c 19:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

20:30:14, 5 July 2021 review of submission by Benkershman

I'm wondering what other information I need to provide in order for the submission to be noteworthy enough. Would it help if I was able to include a birth date, legal name and more info on their family background? Benkershman (talk) 20:30, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Benkershman You must demonstrate with independent reliable sources with significant coverage that this person meets at least one aspect of the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. The other stuff can wait. 331dot (talk) 20:34, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 6

Request on 03:33:36, 6 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Amaria2016


Dear Team, one problem with my article is that most of my sources are old newspapers that are not available online. Is there any way I can provide them as sources? Unfortunately I haven't found the same information online. Thanks for the help!

Amaria2016 (talk) 03:33, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see Template:Cite news. We accept offline sources, if enough bibliographical information is provided to look the newspaper article up in an offline archive. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 03:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

05:55:16, 6 July 2021 review of draft by Cog360


Hi,

I have a few questions in regards to my draft.

1. Overall I want to know if the submission is too long? I have edited it down but when compared with submissions on similar subjects it is more detailed.

2. Should I include a table for the subject, as per the example here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Murrell

3. Is it best to change the order of the article so that the 'Early Life and Education' section is below 'Career'.

Many thanks in advance

Cog360 (talk) 05:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cog360, I'll answer your questions as you've numbered them;
1. The length seems ok, though I have not read it in depth.
2. WP:Infoboxes can be a bit fiddly to get right, particularly for beginners, so leaving it for someone else to do is fine.
3. The order is correct. A biography should be in chronological order so the events of childhood and youth come before the subject's career.
Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:27, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

08:28:01, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Tedtechno


Tedtechno (talk) 08:28, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

09:42:06, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Pankaj todabhim


Pankaj todabhim (talk) 09:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pankaj todabhim You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

10:38:27, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Krishnarthiindia


Krishnarthiindia (talk) 10:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Krishnarthiindia You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you have a relationship with the topic, you must review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 10:45, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

12:08:03, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Ahamed.naim


Ahamed.naim (talk) 12:08, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ahamed.naim You have not asked a question. I would advise you of the autobiography policy; while not forbidden, writing about yourself is strongly discouraged. 331dot (talk) 12:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

13:59:34, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Sylviii


Hello, At the outset, please forgive me for my english, I am not a native speaker. Here is what brings me there: I am surprised to have my draft refused, seeing that: - I have used a number of diverse and reliable sources, although I must admit there are not a very many available on the net. - In my opinion, there are no outrageous peacock terms in the draft. But if there are, I would be glad to rectify. - I think Simon Steensland passes the "notability" test, if by that one means "worthy of notice", or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded". His musical production is important in qualitative and quantitative respects. The list of criteria I've checked seemed to me perfectly compatible with an article about this musician. Would you be kind enough to help me improve this draft? I certainly hope it can be made acceptable within the rules of Wikipedia. Best regards and thank you for your time. Sylviii

Sylviii (talk) 13:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sylviii You have the common definition of notability correct, but Wikipedia has a special definition of notability for topics. For musicians, the Wikipedia definition of notability is written on this page. 331dot (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14:52:06, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Mark Mireles


I am just getting back to get this fixed, I am still confused a little as to all the changes I have made to Mark’s page. I would like to resolve any issues, it seems I had too much info before and now not enough. Mark is very much a real person and notable in the martial arts world. Being one of a few who are listed on Jean Jaques Machado’s page next to Joe Rogan and Chuck Norris.

All the Police awards and works are all documented too, I had links to all those articles, but then I had too many external links and it was more of a promotional/advertising page as opposed to being just a brief history and overview of Mark.

I want to fix this, I am new to Wikipedia as you can tell from all my earlier submissions.

Thanks and I look forward to your response.

Mark Mireles (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Mireles Your username is Mark Mireles, but you seem to be speaking as if you are not him. If you are not him, you should change your username immediately at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. Assuming you are not him, I will say that the main issue is that you have not offered any independent reliable sources about him, only website associated with the organizations he was associated with. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:36:28, 6 July 2021 review of draft by Kwokng


With the recent feedback to the submission, it is clear I need help with this submission as the topic meets the notably criteria. There are several books on adapted physical activity published by several leading publishers including Human Kinetics (who also publish adapted physical activity quarterly) - (https://www.amazon.com/Developmental-Adapted-Physical-Activity-Assessment-ebook/dp/B079RLKKVY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Adapted+physical+activity&qid=1625585608&sr=8-3) , University of Alberta press (https://www.amazon.com/Adapted-Physical-Activity-Robert-Steadward/dp/0888643756), Mcgraw-Hill (https://www.amazon.com/Adapted-Physical-Activity-Recreation-Sport/dp/0697295133), and others.

Further more this is an academic field so there are many sources available that are credible for wiki. I just have not had the time to build the sources together and had hoped I could start up the page and get the test of the community to build up the page based on the current structure.

Would it be possible for someone to help to get the page up and running, as we (the scientific field/practitioners, researchers, whoever is interested - as many visits to the ifapa page goes to "what is apa?" show on ifapa.net https://ifapa.net/what-is-apa/") really need a wiki page on this topic.

Kwokng (talk) 15:36, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kwokng I'm wondering who "we" is. 331dot (talk) 15:45, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kwokng Is that the nature of your COI? No one "needs" a Wikipedia article(not just a "page"). Wikipedia has no interest in enhancing search results or aiding your organization or its field. Those may be side benefits but are not our primary goal. Our only interest is in summarizing what independent reliable sources state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. 331dot (talk) 18:53, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
331dot I see, that is a good point. Perhaps I presented the issue incorrectly. I have only started this page as a response to the commonly search page, that comes from google of 'what is apa'. naturally, I would have thought Wikipedia articles (apologies for the use of the term 'page') would be a good alternative, so they would find this information from Wikipedia, and not that they would come to our site with a high bounce rate for this. So, I am not doing it to aid the organisation. this is a response to a common request ifapa.net website naturally gets.
In terms of notability, there are text books, journals, and conferences on the topic. Can you tell me how that is not considered as 'notable' in terms of significant coverage, with reliable sources (journals are double blind peer-review with no APC - i.e. is not a predatory) and sources. I recognise that there might be some issue with 'independent of subject', and can remove them away, if someone could give guidance on which pieces are deemed to not be independent, Furthermore, the page 'Adapted Physical Education', (it is already linked to the draft), is only one area of Adapted Physical Activity, so it it can stand as sufficiently notable, how can the encompassing body of Adapted Physical Activity be published?
Kwokng I think I might follow the suggestions of the reviewers and expand the existing article mentioned by them. Most of the sources seem to be just basic or routine coverage, not significant coverage. If reputable journals and books have things to say about this topic, summarizing them would be a good start. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:18:22, 6 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by ParulBedhotiya


The draft I had submitted was declined with the reason - cited references do not show significant coverage that are published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I have 2-3 articles that talk about the company in detail. But I am not sure if they will get rejected again. If that happens, that is, the article is declined because the reviewer found the references again not significant or reliable, will my draft get deleted? And what happens if it gets deleted, will I be able to rewrite after a year or so, when there are more articles to support?

ParulBedhotiya (talk) 17:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:24:32, 6 July 2021 review of draft by Shotacoffey


Could I please ask for some help with editing to get this page ready to submit? I made updates to try to address issues, but would love another set of eyes on this, so that I can get it published. Shotacoffey (talk) 19:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is promotion-by-overdetail. You're writing an encyclopaedia article, not an advertorial; describe the subject in broad strokes. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 01:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

20:44:25, 6 July 2021 review of draft by Deng92.9


Deng92.9 (talk) 20:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't how to add my infobox to my article and I would like to know so that I can add it to my article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deng92.9 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deng92.9, Help:Infobox has a very easy to understand explanation. Similarly, you can also base it off of a completed infobox from another page as long as you make sure to remove any parameters that don't apply to the subject. For example, since Yoh is a politician, you can use the infobox in Joe Biden as a template.
If you need additional help regarding this, I recommend you go to the main Help Desk. Curbon7 (talk) 22:56, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

21:28:46, 6 July 2021 review of submission by Rehanzebkpk


Rehanzebkpk (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Draft:Rehan Zeb Khan
Rehanzebkpk, You didn't ask a question. Regarding the draft, ALL biographies of living persons must be supported by inline citations consisting of reliable sources. Curbon7 (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:15:20, 6 July 2021 review of draft by ACDW


Hey there,

I'm trying to help a friend create a page on Ofra Cosmetics. We're both pretty new to Wikipedia article creation, so we adapted the page for Colour Pop Cosmetics. The Ofra page was denied for inclusion even though it has sources from Glamour, Allure, and Bustle, which are pre-eminent publications in the fashion and beauty industries.

Any advice you have on how we can polish this article or what we can add for its inclusion in Wikipedia will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! - ACDW

ACDW (talk) 22:15, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ACDW Please review conflict of interest. The sources you offered- though from decent magazines- are not acceptable for establishing notability. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Brief mentions, staff interviews, announcements of routine business activities, and other primary sources do not establish notability. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 22:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay -- basically the articles I cited were probably off press releases, etc. I'll have to do some digging to see what I can find (it's harder because I usually go to Wikipedia first for that kind of information, haha). Thanks! ACDW (talk) 14:11, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ACDW Also check out Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing due to [[1]]. TechnoTalk (talk) 16:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:15:52, 6 July 2021 review of draft by 2600:1700:2160:4A70:F1EB:4831:C704:508E


Just wondering why Amazon along with Walmart ,the Library of Congress and all major book sellers are not good sources.

2600:1700:2160:4A70:F1EB:4831:C704:508E (talk) 22:15, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't offer any sources; the draft is just an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article that summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about this author, showing how they meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable author. We don't want simple mentions that merely confirm the existence of this person. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
331dot, wait a minute, check out the page history. How did an IP decline this draft? Curbon7 (talk) 23:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Perhaps it was someone inadvertently logged out? 331dot (talk) 23:05, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Probably was, but I didn't know they still had access to the toolset. Curbon7 (talk) 23:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is possible to decline a draft without the toolset. 331dot (talk) 23:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The booksellers are because we don't link to, let alone cite, online storefronts (The only reason one would cite them is for release date or ISBN, and the publisher would be a batter source for both), and the Library of Congress because its job is to document/collect every book in existence which makes it meaningless for notability (since most every book published in the US is going to have a LoC catalogue card). —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 01:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 7

02:09:04, 7 July 2021 review of submission by Emilbarr

This is a new editor on the page, so I removed all traces of previous submissions and started fresh. I found over 15 qualified independent sources and carefully rewrote the page - yet it was declined and said "no changes since prior submission?". Why is this the case?

Emilbarr (talk) 02:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Emilbarr That's not exactly what was said. The reviewer said "no improvement", not no changes. Please review the decline message in the red box. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

03:24:15, 7 July 2021 review of submission by 197.48.190.172


Independent reliable sources in the article

197.48.190.172 (talk) 03:24, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been rejected, and will not be considered further. I'm curious as to how you located the draft, which isn't easy to do. 331dot (talk) 08:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article met all criteria. --Leonleader (talk) 19:05, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

12:51:14, 7 July 2021 review of submission by MichaelJms

I've added more paragraphs and headings.

MichaelJms (talk) 12:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

14:04:24, 7 July 2021 review of draft by 2600:1700:2160:4A70:2480:88EF:7323:B6D9


What qualifies as reliable source ?

2600:1700:2160:4A70:2480:88EF:7323:B6D9 (talk) 14:04, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:RS. TechnoTalk (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:28:21, 7 July 2021 review of draft by Loreal17


Loreal17 (talk) 17:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to block the person that goes by the name of "TheRoadIsLong" for stopping my article creation. I just started this yesterday, and he's trying to stop this. Somebody block him. I just want to work on this article without a douchebag posting lies and hacking it. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loreal17 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Loreal17 (talk · contribs · logs) was blocked for 24 hours for making personal attacks. Curbon7 (talk) 20:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You are not allowed to remove draft declines, and Theroadislong is not attempting to get the draft deleted; edit summaries like this are completely uncalled for. Your draft is presently undersourced. Her own website is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Allmusic is useless for notability (Too sparse); a track listing isn't going to have the information we're looking for. The Chestnut Hill Local source is malformed, but acceptable. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:18, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:51:40, 7 July 2021 review of submission by Jonivestal

Hello friends, I have written this article because I had been wanting to share Mr. Avinash Nanda's story to the world. Maybe he hasn't accomplished much like many other hotshot directors but he is still an inspiration to people like me. I took the liberty to pull out references wherever it was needed and posted it accordingly. Also, all the information has been sourced from the internet and collated in one article. Mid-Day newspaper is a credible newspaper from Mumbai, India and some major information came from it.

So please suggest what else I can do to further improvise this article so that it becomes eligible for publication. Your guidance is appreciated.

Thanks. Jonivestal (talk) 17:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Watch this space and refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode's top table. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 20:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Any questions? —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 20:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The OdishaNewsTimes source loads for me – it is a very short (four sentences) notice, quite possibly a press release, about the upcoming release of the film Two Desires and a Dream. It only mentions Nanda's name in passing and does not support the information about the film in the article. In fact, I just realised that it contradicts the info about the release – the draft says 2016, the source says 2017 (or, rather, it says "on Friday", but it was published in 2017). --bonadea contributions talk 16:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:27:30, 7 July 2021 review of draft by Emily19911991


Hi, how many sources should I roughly be looking to aim for to cover the article before the person is considered to have a decent amount of coverage? When I compare my article to the articles Kate Shemirani and Mark Steele, my article only has a half a dozen fewer sources, but the former only came out of the woodwork during the pandemic, which is also the case with Darren Nesbit (although he was known in the fringe circle of those who think the Earth is flat).

I do believe that an article about Nesbit is important because he's notorious for spreading conspiracy theories and other misinformation about Covid-19 in recent times.

I don't want to submit for the article to be reviewed again until I know that the subject has got enough coverage using sources. Can anyone help me please?

Emily19911991 (talk) 19:27, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Emily19911991: In general, we look for three sources that are reliable, independent (no interviews, press relases or "sponsored" articles) and discuss the subject in some detail. See also WP:RSP for a list of sources that have been commonly discussed, and Wikipedia:Deprecated sources for a list of sources that are considered deprecated on Wikipedia and therefore must not be used, as well as Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability) Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Victor Schmidt. He's had lots of coerage with regard to his nonsense about the Earth being flat, should I focus on that aspect of him? What part of the draft needs to be improved do you think?--Emily19911991 (talk) 21:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:59:44, 7 July 2021 review of submission by Rheta10


Rheta10 (talk) 19:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Thank you for all the help thus far. I would like to know if this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Lessard_Bissonette

is ready to link to another page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Maine_suffragists#Suffragists

Where the name Camille Lessard Bissonnette appears.

The page that is linked at present is not the above page which I would like to have linked.

Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rheta10 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rheta10, I'm confused, which page is the link you want supposed to be on, Camille Lessard Bissonette or List of Maine suffragists#Suffragists. Curbon7 (talk) 20:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, The lead page is List of Maine Suffragist which would link to Camille Lessard Bissonnette. I think it is ok now... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rheta10 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

21:41:15, 7 July 2021 review of submission by هيثم ناشر


هيثم ناشر (talk) 21:41, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

هيثم ناشر, All submissions to the English Wikipedia must be in English. As the reviewers suggested, your submission may be more appropriate for the Arabic Wikipedia.
Google translate:
يجب أن تكون جميع الطلبات المقدمة إلى ويكيبيديا الإنجليزية باللغة الإنجليزية. كما اقترح المراجعون ، قد يكون إرسالك أكثر ملاءمة لـ ويكيبيديا العربية. Curbon7 (talk) 21:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:45:34, 7 July 2021 review of submission by Plicabelles

Hi! I believe the article has cited major Macedonian news sources, like: https://macedoniatimes.news/stafan-markovski-stories-book-english/ https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/objavena-knigata-hiperbog-od-stefan-markovski/ https://mia.mk/stefan-markovski-s-poetry-published-in-international-anthology/?lang=en https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/objavena-knigata-potenczijalite-na-zhanrot-krimi-drama-preku-sczenarioto-za-igran-film-se-vikam-sloboda-od-stefan-markovski/ https://sitel.com.mk/knizhevni-nastapi-na-stefan-markovski-vo-shpanija https://makfax.com.mk/kultura/фауст-го-трча-плебејскиот-круг-од-с/ https://opserver.mk/kultura/eretichki-pisma-na-stefan-markovski-objaven-na-angliski-jazik/ https://www.novamakedonija.com.mk/zivot/kultura/стефан-марковски-на-книжевна-резиден/ https://www.novamakedonija.com.mk/tag/стефан-марковски/ There are hundreds of news articles on Markovski's literary works, mostly in Cyrillic, including ones in Bulgarian: http://evropaworld.eu/nosht-na-literaturata-sofiya-2019/ https://noshtnaliteraturata.com/book/eretichni-pisma-ili-namirajki-nebesata-koito-sijajat-v-cherveno/ https://www.geomedia.bg/zabavno/item/7529-нощ-на-литературата

Plicabelles (talk) 22:45, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 8

Request on 02:28:51, 8 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by ShawnMayberry


Hi Wikipedia,

This former alderman has made history in the State of Illinois, passing the United States of America's first reparation bill in Evanston, Illinois. So I thought it would be great to get her featured here so that people can easily access this information about her.

I would like to know what needs to be done to have her added as an entry within Wikipedia.

Thanks!

Shawn Mayberry ShawnMayberry (talk) 02:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

05:37:01, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Dr Hibban


Mr Aafi as I recreated this draft, I don't know what's wrong in it why you are rejecting it as far as I know the mentioned person is notable more than the articles you had worked on so far you can check Google tho all apart you know this guy is already famous in your area too, can I say this is something personal thing with this person that's why you are rejecting the article ? BTW see you soon.

Dr Hibban (talk) 05:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Hibban The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further, because it appears that this person does not meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable photographer. Wikipedia is not just for telling about someone and what they do, it must be shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources that they are notable as defined by Wikipedia- which may be different than how you or I define it. Interviews with the subject do not establish notability, nor does announcements of their work. 331dot (talk) 07:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(User: 331dot) Apologies I don't mean that but If we will go through the whole wikipedia's special definition a notable photographer. We can see there is clearly mentioned it makes a person notable if he has done something for the photography community like had published book, film or anything as we can see this person has individually Authored Two Books On Photography and so far about coverage he has enough coverage I guess there are lot of wiki articles of persons who just have one or two media coverages, I don't have any personal with this I don't seriously care about weather this article will be published or not but I guess it's not fair to neglect this article thank you.

331dot The article was deleted by community consensus on 31 March 2021, and the deleting admin JGHowes also salted it. There is nothing new and the community has already decided that the subject of this fails the notability criteria of the Wikipedia. ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:05, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

06:33:40, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Esmeraldaemy


Esmeraldaemy (talk) 06:33, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For revision of the first rejection of Pahunkat: citations from independent sources were added. See citations: 4, 6, 7, 32, 47, 48, 53, 54, 55... For second revision of second rejection of LJF2019 and similar of Noah: peacock terms in previous version were already removed, replaced by neutral terms. Could reviewer SL93 or other reviewers of Wikipedia tell me why you think the issue has not yet been addressed?

@SL93: courtesy ping Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Esmeraldaemy: I was referring to "The external links should not go in the main body of the text." You have a lot of those. Please fix them. I was also referring to the Education section being unreferenced. SL93 (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

07:36:53, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Karthi346



Karthi346 (talk) 07:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Karthi346: Your draft has been rejected, meaning reviewers don't intend on reviewing it again. Please read over WP:CITEHOW, zero of the "sources" used in the current draft are verifyable. In addition, Wikipedia isn't interested in what a subject wants to say about itself, only what other people who have not been feed by the subject have written in reliable sources. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:25, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

08:11:06, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Silentmessengers


Hello,

Thank you for keeping Wikipedia relevant and useful. However, I'm hoping for a re-review on this article or advice on what changes will help:

1) Relevant disclosures were made prior to posting. 2) Painstaking attempts have been made to keep the language, neutral and factual. 3) References from notable and eminent publications have been provided for facts.

Look forward to your response. Thanks! Silentmessengers (talk) 08:11, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Silentmessengers You are a paid editor. It is assumed that you can hit the ground running because you are earning money from this. Wikipedia is an amateur project. If your work was rejected it has been judged to be one that woudl never survive in mainspeace. `A reviewer has simply called a halt to this draft. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. Just don't expect to be spoon fed by we amateurs who give our time freely buty to other amateurs
Since you are paid youi might as well get back om the horse. But first read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure again and make the correct disclosure on your user page. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 13:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

12:22:57, 8 July 2021 review of draft by 1.7.180.194


This help is requested to understand better as to why the draft wiki page for Dr. P.B. Salim was declined.

The reason given for declining the draft is passing mention about the subject in the quoted references. However, it is not mentioned that exactly which reference is being talked about. Most of the given references directly and elaborately mention about the subject. Therefore, it is very important to know which reference is being said to have a passing mention of the subject.

1.7.180.194 (talk) 12:22, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

12:28:54, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Tommymul


Hi all. I recently submitted an article for a local amateur senior football club in Ireland - Newtown Rangers AFC. It was rejected this morning based off not having reliable/or any sources to back up the club's honours list. The issue is the online archive of such leagues and titles for Irish football is shockingly poor. All I have is the 60th Anniversary annual which has a complete list of all the club's honours since 1957 - 2017. It's printed and published locally but not online. I don't know what to do now. I can take a picture etc of the annual but I am unable to find an online location of it. It's really disappointing as this club is over 60 years old, has a great history but now I can't disclose the actual awards it has won. Any suggestions at all?

Tommymul (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tommymul Before expending too much energy please read WP:NFOOTBALL and only do further work if the club qualifies. If out does, non online sources are wholly acceptable as llmc as they are cited correctly so that an educated reader could find them if they so chose. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain. Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 12:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I may have confused myself use WP:NCLUB instead FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 13:17, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

12:33:18, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Skelley4195

This page was edited by one of your editors, many thanks! I selected the button to request a review and was sent to a page to add a section with a Captcha and edit box etc. I do not wish to add a section. I completed the Captcha and selected Publish because those were the instructions on the page, but the page simply refreshed. I can't tell if the page has been submitted for review. Thank you for any guidance you can offer. Skelley4195 (talk) 12:33, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Skelley4195 No idea whathappened, but I have submitted Draft:Vision Rehabilitation Therapist on your behalf in your name FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 12:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 12:39:59, 8 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Anna-Sara Reinisch


I would like to create a new Wikipedia page for the Baltic Forest Hiking Trail with more detailed information and pictures. There is some information about the trail on the Wikipedia page "E11 european long distance path". I think a new Wikipedia page is needed because the Baltic Forest Hiking trail is a part of the E11 path but still it is its own path. My new Wikipedia page about the Baltic Forest Trail has been taken away and I'm also involved in a COI now. How can I get out of this situation? I am not paid to write this article. I'm a volunteer and see a need for more detailed information with help of two different Wikipedia pages. If I for example would split the article "E11 european long distance path", into E11 European long distance path" and Baltic Forest Hiking Trail, how much of the information on the original page can be left without being duplicate?

Anna-Sara Reinisch (talk) 12:39, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anna-Sara Reinisch, Don't worry about the COI warning, that's just someone had a suspicion there may have been a conflict of interest, but it seems you've cleared it up here.
Regarding the drafts (there are two mostly identical ones: Draft:Baltic Forest Hiking Trail and Draft:Baltic Coastal Hiking trail, firstly, even though they were declined, you still have access to them and can still resubmit them after you make improvements if you would like to. However, I agree with the reviewer that you have not yet presented enough reliable sources in either draft that proves that this should be a standalone article. I think it is much better right now as a section in E11 European long distance path, which is what the reviewer suggested. That being said, if you do provide considerable reliable sources, perhaps the determination may be made that it could function as a standalone article.
Also, please choose one of the two duplicate drafts and work only on that one. You can pick whichever you want, but having two duplicate drafts may cause confusion for both us and you. Curbon7 (talk) 19:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

13:04:08, 8 July 2021 review of draft by Mynameisian


Mynameisian (talk) 13:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article i drafted is being rejected. i had tried to rewrite it to make it neutral. Is there anywhere else i should take note of? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynameisian (talk • contribs) 13:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mynameisian: The first thing you should do is you should search for some independent, reliable sources that actually support your content, as verifyability is one of Wikipedia's core principles. If you can't find any, its time to stop, as anything else will be a waste of everyone's time. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

13:35:28, 8 July 2021 review of submission by 196.188.95.21


196.188.95.21 (talk) 13:35, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't ask a question. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:05:08, 8 July 2021 review of submission by AJTANDY


AJTANDY (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I submitted a page for review called BDS the truth and it was refused

Your draft here User:AJTANDY/sandbox/The Truth About BDS consists of three links to YouTube that is NOT what Wikipedia is for. Theroadislong (talk) 15:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

16:59:51, 8 July 2021 review of submission by GreenEli


Hi there,

Last month, I submitted my very first article for review. I went through the Wikipedia Adventure, used the Article Wizard, and, once I finally felt it was close to ready, reached out to some of the great folks on the live help chat IRC to get their thoughts before submitting the article for approval. I got some great feedback, and was told that it looked good to go. After a couple of weeks, I didn't see any activity on it, so I reached out to the live help chat IRC again to get some more input, after which I added some more details to the Career section.

I realize that there is a backlog of articles awaiting approval, so the process takes time, but the facts that the backlog is not simply a queue, and that the person about whom I wrote fits within a specific niche (biographies of living Orthodox Jewish singers) leaves me concerned that it may take longer than normal to be seen (or may not be seen at all out of a given reviewer's lack of interest in the topic). I am not worried that the person (Shlomo Simcha) not being notable, as there are plenty of other articles about other people within that niche (Benny Friedman, Mordechai Shapiro, Yaakov Shwekey), and his name even appears in some of them (e.g. Abie Rotenberg). It's just that I don't have a clue how popular that niche is with reviewers, and what that means for it being seen and eventually reviewed.

I believe that I've gone through this properly,, and that my article is of a good quality (or at least a good start). I also hope that this is the appropriate place for making this inquiry.

Thank you kindly,

GreenEli (talk) 16:59, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like this has been accepted in the meantime. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Yes, I just noticed that as well! A reviewer took a look at it and made some comments. Then, after I asked for more details and advice on improving it, it seems they changed their mind, or maybe dug through my references some more? I still have a photo to add, which is awaiting copyright clearance, and I know there are a lot more details to add about Shlomo Simcha's charity work, collaborative work, and maybe something about the fact that he is often hired for private (corporate and personal) functions, but it's great to know that the effort I put in was worth it. I'm quite happy I got a Start-Class rating on it rather than a stub. Thank you to anyone and everyone who looked at this, and for however it got to the reviewer's attention! GreenEli (talk) 20:38, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 17:13:17, 8 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by ShawnMayberry


Hi Wikipedia,

Do you all think Alderman Simmons is worthy of a Wikipedia article for her passing the first reparations bill in America? Also, if you all do, what changes would I need to make to the article for you all to accept.

Thanks!

Shawn Mayberry

ShawnMayberry (talk) 17:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ShawnMayberry, Possibly. The subject certainly fails our notability criteria for politicians, but may still pass our general notability criteria if it is proven that her reparations bill is something noteworthy and if her mentions in reliable sources aren't just passing mentions. Curbon7 (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

18:40:46, 8 July 2021 review of draft by AlexanderKopelman


My draft of an article was rejected because of issues with references. I resubmitted an updated draft with additional references on April 5th, 2021. I have not received any additional feedback on the draft. AlexanderKopelman (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have not re-submitted it? Press the blue button that says "resubmit". Theroadislong (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:07:19, 8 July 2021 review of submission by 2405:201:5502:C97D:E915:C31F:9A6:95F6


2405:201:5502:C97D:E915:C31F:9A6:95F6 (talk) 19:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See below. Curbon7 (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

19:27:21, 8 July 2021 review of submission by 2405:201:5502:C97D:E915:C31F:9A6:95F6


Respected Concern Authority, on the behalf of Kashmir News Bureau I am writing to request you kindly consider the article for publication as This is one of the top news agencies of India.

2405:201:5502:C97D:E915:C31F:9A6:95F6 (talk) 19:27, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You should definitely read our policy on undisclosed paid editing and conflict of interest editing, as from your use of "on the behalf of Kashmir News Bureau", it seems you are associated with the company. Regardless, as you were told in the reviews, the draft lacks reliable sources, and the subject does not demonstrate notability, per our notability guidelines for companies. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

23:15:18, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Gavin 78

My Wikipedia biography about my favorite musician was approved today and whenever you look up “Edwin J McEnelly”, the Wikipedia page shows up but with an odd picture of two guys posing with eachother and has nothing to do with the article. I’m not sure why it’s there and when I check the page itself on Wikipedia it isn’t anywhere on the page. I’m wondering if you know anything about it or how to fix it. It wasn’t there in the draft page either

Gavin 78 (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gavin 78: Where are you seeing this picture? If it's not on Wikipedia itself there's probably not too much we can do to help. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Gavin 78 (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Extraordinary Writ:

It shows up when you look up “Edwin J. McEnelly” on Google. The Wikipedia page is the first thing that comes up but there is a photo of two random guys next to it where there should be the picture of Edwin on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavin 78 (talk • contribs)

Gavin 78 Wikipedia has no control over Google search results or knowledge panels; you will need to contact Google for assistance. The knowledge panels provide a Feedback link. 331dot (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

23:28:48, 8 July 2021 review of submission by 182.188.180.119

I think this town should be on the internet because it is a massive effort to lessen the burden of connecting with other cities. 182.188.180.119 (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please read the comments left by reviewers. 331dot (talk) 23:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

23:36:33, 8 July 2021 review of submission by Youtalk2021


Youtalk2021 (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Youtalk2021, the draft is clearly an advertisement for the subject. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Curbon7 (talk) 04:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

23:37:52, 8 July 2021 review of submission by 182.188.180.119


182.188.180.119 (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't ask a question. To be frank, I have no idea what this draft is supposed to be about, and whatever it is, it's apparently not notable, as it isn't supported by reliable sources. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further.. Curbon7 (talk) 04:29, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 9

03:48:03, 9 July 2021 review of draft by Elshitaq


I create a good article for a businessman I wrote a profile about the person that includes basic information I also mentioned his professional career and all the positions and memberships he has gone through to this day. I also cited various realistic sources Unfortunately, I was rejected because the memberships must be prose with chronology Then he went and tried to apply it Currently, I am waiting for the review and I hope the result will be positive Ask for help to make the page approved Elshitaq (talk) 03:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

04:14:50, 9 July 2021 review of submission by KennyOfHrub


KennyOfHrub (talk) 04:14, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

KennyOfHrub, this draft has already been rejected. Rejection means we will not take another look at it. Even if we did, there's no doubt in my mind that it would probably be outright rejected again. All of the stuff you added is either (1) not supported by reliable sources, (2) written in a non-neutral manner, or (3) is non-notable, or a combination of the three.
After looking through your contribs, you really really really need to take a look at our policies on reliable sourcing and our manual of style for formatting and content. Curbon7 (talk) 04:38, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the history here and the wording I would seriously debate G10ing this. There's been a history of trying to create Wikipedia pages to harass him. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:25, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

06:14:12, 9 July 2021 review of submission by John Wilson baki


If you remove the speedy tag I will drag it to WP:Articles for deletion. You move it to mainspace, you accept all consequences for doing so, including the article being deleted if it is not up to par. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:16, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

07:12:24, 9 July 2021 review of submission by Digby baird

All info on the draft is found in the links Digby baird (talk) 07:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Draft:Digbygames.com
You don't have anything approaching acceptable sources that can help prove notability. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:15, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Both sources are true digbygames.com The website that the draft about clearly shows 13 games. and web.archive.org/web/*/https://digbygames.com is a popular website used to save videos photos and websites of what they look like whenever the person saved it.

and web.archive.org/web/*/https://digbygames.com has links to all the saves through time and shows proof of all of the changes so I'm not sure why they wouldn't be true. ps I give up I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. The sources might not be from articles or lists but they are verifiable. Digby baird (talk) 07:40, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They don't help prove notability because they're not reliable sources due to being connected to digbygames.com themselves. "Verifiable" is not the only criterion we use when assessing sources; we're also looking to see that they discuss the subject in depth, have professional editorial oversight that fact-checks, and have no direct connexion to the subject (i.e. the subject didn't dictate the content). —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 08:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

09:41:53, 9 July 2021 review of submission by Vfmmm3d


Vfmmm3d (talk) 09:41, 9 July 2021 (UTC) Why article is declined. I have posted as per Wikipedia rules.[reply]

Vfmmm3d Please review the message left by the reviewer as to why the draft was declined. You have not demonstrated that this company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. The sources you have offered are not appropriate for establishing notability. Please review Your First Article. If you work for this company, please review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode's top table:
Your sources are almost all completely unusable. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 09:58, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

09:43:33, 9 July 2021 review of submission by Sultana Anya

I got a notes that says my page got rejected and I am not sure how to fix this issue and I worked really hard on that page. :( Can you tell me what I can do to fix that?

Sultana Anya (talk) 09:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sultana Anya Unfortunately, the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. You have not offered any sources demonstrating that this person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable singer. Some of the sources you have offered do not seem to exist at all, or do not mention the person at all. Please understand that successfully writing a new article is probably the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia, and not everyone is successful at it. Please review Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 11:03:20, 9 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by BaileyAcadmey


Hello! My name is Bailey. I wanted to request assistance concerning a Draft article I edited and submitted for review. I have been editing different articles all morning and I came across a draft for the Photographer, Oghalé Alex Ogbaudu. I noticed it had been declined because it may have been written by himself. I saw that he specified this conflict of interest so I decided to look into him further. I found that the articles sourced were genuine and notable. The National Portrait Gallery is a prestigious honour here in the UK. SO I decided to look through the other sources and all of them seemed to corroborate the article. I felt satisfied that this was a page worthy of publication. However, a few users who reviewed the submissions somewhat attacked me for standing up for what I felt was a genuine page of interest as evidenced by the articles and sources. I have come across a few new draft pages and many do not have sources or information which corroborates what is said. However, when reading the article, I felt the tone of its writing actually matched what was written in the articles.

I would like this draft to be fairly reviewed given the sources and published as I believe it is credible.

BaileyAcadmey (talk) 11:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BaileyAcadmey I'm curious as to how you came across this draft; it isn't easy to find a draft unless you are looking for it. Please specify the "attacks" against you which I'm not finding. You have submitted the draft for review and it is pending. 331dot (talk) 11:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BaileyAcadmey (talk) I have been looking through Wikipedia for articles to edit and I came across a page for Nadine Ijewere among others that I have edited today. I accidentally closed the tab belonging to Nadine and I couldn't remember the spelling properly. In a private window in Chrome there is no history stored so I began searching for words that I remembered within the article. It turns out similar wordings were used in Oghalé's page which is not surprising because both Nadine and Oghalé are photographers within the same industry. I have a genuine interest in photographers within the UK so I started to read and look at the sources. While I started to read Oghale's page, that is when I noticed it was only a draft but within the draft, I felt the sources were credible. That is how I came across the page.

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