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Names of the innocent victims

Several children were among those killed following a US drone strike in Kabul: at top from left: Farzad, age 9, Faisal, age 10, Zemaray, age 40, Zamir, age 20 Bottom, from left: Naseer, age 30, Binyamen, age 3, Armin, age 4, Sumaya, age 2.^[1] Ptipti (talk) 20:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The names of the victims are not important to the article as they aren't notable and contribute nothing in improving it. We are not an obituary and an encyclopaedia isn't supposed to list victim names. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 01:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

should there be a standalone article for the subsequent drone strike?

i see the material regarding the drone strike on ten civilians is integrated into this article. unless i am mistaken, policy suggests that ten fatalities qualifies for its own article. the issue was touched on in archive 1 but dismissed or ignored after sept 2 2021. given that these ten people had nothing to do with the suicide attack at Karzi airport it seems unfair to include it here. if this suggestion is indeed in line with policy, what would be a good title for such an article? tia 74.46.254.44 (talk) 00:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer, NO! The volume of available info about the strike ITSELF (not biographical info about the victims) would be what justified a separate article - frankly I don't see that being likely unless there were a major inquiry, which seems improbable. The number of dead is - in itself - irrelevant. Pincrete (talk) 17:40, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

gross. but acceptable. thanks. 74.46.254.44 (talk) 23:51, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Abdur Rahman al-logri (suicide bomber) into 2021 Kabul airport attack

Not enough information about the bomber for a stand-alone article. DTM (talk) 12:52, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, WP:BLP1E (though in this case he's recently deceased) exists for a reason. BSMRD (talk) 15:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also agree, for reasons already given above. Little likelihood of significant amounts of further info justifying an article. Pincrete (talk) 17:35, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agree: There isn't much information on him. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 22:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agree Not much information on the guy and there probably won't be more (not enough for a standalone article), known for only one event. —Danre98^{(talk^contribs)} 22:46, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

I propose that the info about the 29 August drone strike in the section US airstrikes be split into a separate page called August 29, 2021 Kabul drone strike. The content of the current page has become too much about that particular drone strike (more than a third of the article by my estimate, 7 out of 20 paragraphs, which includes the lede but excluding small single sentence paras.) rather than the bombing. And there's sufficient information to create a new article with how the strike happened, the military's wrong claims being investigated, reactions to the strike, thee military's own investigation. Even the Congress is going to establish multiple investigative committees to investigate it [2].

The strike is certainly notable on its own. Not just in the news butt in the real word itself as politicians, human rights organisations, the White House, Congress, have come out about it. Besides the civilian ire which has also affected Biden's ratings. The article naming proposal might not seem suitable to some, so you are free to suggest your own name. Info about the strike can be retained here in brief. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 23:09, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Short answer, NO! The volume of available info about the strike ITSELF ''(not biographical info about the victims)'' would be what justified a separate article - frankly I don't see that being likely unless there were a major inquiry, which seems improbable. The number of dead is - in itself - irrelevant. [[User:Pincrete|Pincrete]] ([[User talk:Pincrete|talk]]) 17:40, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
+::gross. but acceptable. thanks. [[Special:Contributions/74.46.254.44|74.46.254.44]] ([[User talk:74.46.254.44|talk]]) 23:51, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 == Proposed merge of [[Abdur Rahman al-logri (suicide bomber)]] into [[2021 Kabul airport attack]] ==