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Gotell & Dutton, 2016

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Gotell, Lise; Dutton, Emily (2016). "Sexual Violence in the 'Manosphere': Antifeminist Men's Rights Discourses on Rape". International Journal for Crime, Justice and Social Democracy. 5 (2): 65–80. doi:10.5204/ijcjsd.v5i2.310.

This (free to read) source could be useful for the article, as it has a good amount of material on the topic and can be freely used under a Creative Commons license. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I remember coming across it in my research but for some reason I had doubts about its reliability. Can't for the life of me remember why now, though. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Johanssen, 2021

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Johanssen, Jacob (2021). Fantasy, Online Misogyny and the Manosphere: Male Bodies of Dis/Inhibition. Routledge. doi:10.4324/9781003031581. ISBN 978-1-003-03158-1.

From the online abstract: "This book presents the first in-depth study of online misogyny and the manosphere from a psychoanalytic perspective." Could be useful for building the article. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Manosphere has been associated with mass shootings etc. Really?

I've just made an edit & had it reverted for reasons I don't understand so thought I'd raise it here.

The article makes this rather extravagant claim (twice): It has also been associated with online harassment as well as some mass shootings and other real-world acts of violence, and has been implicated in radicalizing men into committing violence against women.

As it stands (after reversion & editing) that claim is supported by a fruit salad of references. I've checked the ones available to me & read the abstracts of the others. My comclusion is: - None of the research cited supports the claim about mass shootings. - None of the research cited supports the claim about real-world violence. - The phrase "has been associated with" makes the claim essentially meaningless. One could make a similar claim about Santa Claus. - Likewise "has been implicated in" - The article as a whole has a political flavour rather than factual. Not what I'd like to see on Wikipedia.

Let me know if I'm wrong otherwise I will put my change back. Tony999 (talk) 07:27, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]