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Hi, I'm Anuran, and I've been looking on my chat. it seems that I've made a mistake. I can't edit articles without a source meaning that even if I am true, I must bring a reference for my edit no matter what like Arthropleura is a herbivore... (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08912963.2019.1675055) for my backup. So yes, I see my mistake and I hope it eases you. Have a good day.

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I have made a paper HAL TEDBF in hindi 3-4 months ago. So much time have passed but it is not linked with the language section mean that I cannot get on the English page of I am on Hindi. Please help me. I need this feature/function to link other pages also. I ame Shears (talk) 09:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I'm afraid I don't really understand what you're asking me to do. Are you talking about linking to an article on Hindi Wikipedia from English Wikipedia? Please explain exactly what it is you want to do, ideally providing links to the relevant articles. Thanks Girth Summit _(blether) 09:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] this is the page which I want to link from Hindi wikipedia to English Wikipedia. Thanks I ame Shears (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - apologies for the (very) slow response, I'm afraid that I've been swamped with real-life work over the last few days. I'm afraid that I'm still not sure what it is you want to do: which page do you want to link from? Why do you want to link to a Hindi article from English Wikipedia? If you can explain more fully, I'll try my best to advise. Girth Summit _(blether) 21:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I am new here and want to be a student of Counter-Vandalism Unit. Thanks. --Spotanus (talk) 16:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spotanus. I'm quite busy at work at the moment, and not taking on any students for the time being. I note that your account is very new, and I'm not sure that diving immediately into counter-vandalism activities is the best way for you to start out here. You might consider using the WP:ADVENTURE to build up your skills first, and then think about trying to improve a few articles before diving straight into counter-vandalism stuff. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 19:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexander Ellice slavery sources

Hi,

Since you reverted the source of Alexander Ellice biography, can you at least provide some consistent source about his slave trader past ? Nothing in this page (your source) proves that he was a slave trader https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146638519 only that he ha

Also the page you provide is incomplete and doesn't show how Alexander Ellice developped the area http://www.biographi.ca/fr/bio/ellice_alexander_5F.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne-Laure1984QC (talk • contribs) 20:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted because your edit was a violation of our copyright policy - WP:COPYVIO. We may not copy content from other websites into our articles. I know nothing about this individual, and am not myself familiar with the sources - I suggest that you reach out on the article's talk page to the article's author, and discuss the matter with them. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 20:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

We haven't interacted too much though I have seen you around and we have been involved in discussion before but I wanted to thank you for your words at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Reywas92. They were very sound and I agreed with most of what you said. It reminds me a Wikipedia principle I have come to adopt throughout my interactions here ad well as in life.

"One of the least enforced but most critical policies on the project is our need to remain civil at all times, no matter the provocation. If something you might say would be unacceptable at a large meeting of professionals in a conference room, then it is unacceptable here. Insults very often are an insight into the person making them, not on the target of the aspersions. Insults will never yield positive outcomes. Incivility reduces productivity, engagement, and idea generation."

Words affect others, tone affects others and I'm still learning this despite years of trying to perfect it. When everything is going well and others are agreeing with us it is easy to be civil. The more adversity we face we, as humans, feel we must fight the fire by unloading and civility is often the first thing we toss out the window. --ARose Wolf 21:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We're none of us perfect. If I could add up the amount of time I've wasted typing out a reply that I want to send, then deleting it and typing the reply I know I ought to send, I'd probably have... well, enough time to do something useful with. Build a boat maybe, or learn to ski. The way I see it, the person who remains civil and professional is acting entirely in their own interests - people coming to a discussion cold will generally be far more inclined to agree with the calm person referring to policy than the angry person venting all over the place. We're all human though - there are so many situations where it is an ingrained response to give a sarcastic, snarky or downright hostile response. I always try to imagine it being quoted back at me out of context, and my having to justify it to people who weren't there at the time - better not to make it in the first place.

Thanks, by the way. :) Girth Summit _(blether) 21:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I type, delete and retype messages all the time. If I had a US dollar for every time I deleted a message and simply walked away from the discussion I would be, I know, the richest person in North Alaska at the moment, of course that may or may not be a very big accomplishment. Either way, I understand you perfectly and I am so glad I am not the only one doing that. It's one of those things that you know but it's good to hear or see someone else experiencing it as well. --ARose Wolf 21:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SeanM1997

Back on 31 October you advised SeanM1997 at User talk:SeanM1997 to clearly state on his user page that he is using two different accounts to edit the same articles. He has not done this and continues active editing using both accounts on the same articles, e.g. Edinburgh Airport. Perhaps it's time to remind him of his obligations. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:30, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any actual disruption going on - are they edit warring or anything like that? The account names are so similar that I doubt there is any intention to deceive; I've advised them of best practice already, I'm not personally inclined to take any further action unless there is something more than the use of two separate but similarly named accounts. Girth Summit _(blether) 15:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About flags

Hello, Turkish peoples have spread to many parts of the world, I am making flags for these peoples to be recognized more, the flags I make are not meaningless, all of these flags have a meaning, please do not delete the flags I have added, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SahinBasaran (talk • contribs) 00:23, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You can't add flags here if you have invented them yourself - we are here to collect existing knowledge, not to propogate new ideas. I see that you have been blocked from editing now - you'll need to agree to stop adding flags like this if you wish to be unblocked. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sahin Basaran presents Fun with Flags!!?? Govvy (talk) 12:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If I could issue a Wikipedia warning for making me spit out my coffee, you'd get a Level-3 10mmsocket (talk) 12:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry 10mmsocket I couldn't help myself, I am a big fan of The Big Bang Theory.

Govvy (talk) 20:40, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be that guy, but I've never watched the Big Bang Theory, and I've no idea what you're talking about. I respect both of you as editors, and I hate to be a killjoy, but this thread was started by a now-indef-blocked user who was certainly being disruptive, but who probably doesn't really understand what they were doing wrong - let's not cause them any more frustration and confusion by turning it into a sideshow. Girth Summit _(blether) 20:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Girth, it's a very popular show, maybe not some ppl's cup of tea, but it's fun, goofy, warm hearted. It hits on a number of cultural elements of my generation so it hits all the right buttons for me. You should give it a try. Govvy (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about the show, or the fun - I feel bad about asking you to stop, fun is definitely a good thing. It's just the circumstances - I don't think this person was intentionally breaking our rules, they just didn't understand what was wrong with their actions. They don't need to see us laughing and joking about it. Girth Summit _(blether) 21:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

Your close of that awful ANI was spot on and I think you parsed the various options just right. Having been at the sharp end of the discussion I have developed a new appreciation of how unpleasant ANI is. It makes DRV a walk in the park by comparison. My main gripe is the length of time the thread was open. Obviously not your fault as you fixed the issue, but there has to be a better way to moderate disputes of this kind. Quicker closing and policing of behaviour would probably have seen no need for formal sanctions at all. Any how, thanks again for bringing this to an end. Spartaz ^Humbug! 23:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Threads like that are tricky - it's clear that a substantial number of people want something to be done, but with lots of people pulling in different directions it's tempting just to scroll down and leave it to somebody else. I'm sorry that one was left for so long though, and I'm glad that you think I called it right. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 09:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks!

For sorting out the SPI case I logged. Have a Merry Christmas and a great 2022! Ho ho ho. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:09, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays

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	Hi Girth Summit, May you have a bright and beautiful holiday season. Thank you for everything you do for this community and for the encyclopedia! Have a happy and healthy 2022! Netherzone (talk) 17:48, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Girth Summit,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 18:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Canmore

Hast thou heard of anything on the current status of Canmore? Its website has been down for at least the last two days, which is a bit of a concern for the references about the place. Seasider53 (talk) 20:34, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fear not; it's down for maintenance. Seasider53 (talk) 19:46, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, missed your original message. Yes, I've noticed that every now and again canmore is unavailable for a day or two. It usually comes back online fairly quickly. Girth Summit _(blether) 07:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Girth Summit, Have an enjoyable holiday season! Cassiopeia talk 09:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Any chance this is also a sock?

Mainly reverting a sock you just blocked, Yash Thakur Ramayan, and telling User:Bishonen that Yash Thakur Ramayan is a sock - as you know. Doug Weller talk 17:40, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Doug Weller - hope the festive season is treating you well - is there another account you want me to look at? Girth Summit _(blether) 17:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind - figured it out. Very suspicious behaviourally... Girth Summit _(blether) 18:10, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, bad writing. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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	Wishing you a happy new year Girth. I appreciate all the interactions I've had with you this year. Cheers Megan B.... ^{It’s all coming to me} till the end of time 14:27, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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-I have been a wikipedia user for many years and recently started contributing. I realize in the past I have abused my right and vandalized this page. However today I do not see how may actions warrant a block. I have made simple inference and presented logical deductions based on them. Could you explain how my actions have warranted being blocked please?
-== Critical Race Theory in Education ==
-Various levels of Education perpetuate fundamentally racist ideas guised as matters of inclusivity. For instance the SPSCC seeks to disadvantage students of color (SOC) by asserting that any form of dialectic English will be accepted as proper spoken or written English.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web|date=2021-02-16|title=Antiracism Statement|url=https://spscc.edu/students/learning/LSS-West/antiracism|url-status=live|access-date=2022-01-02|website=South Puget Sound Community College|language=en}}</ref> This constitutes a lowering of the bar required of students who will be disadvantaged in the workforce by such assertions. SPSCC asserts that ideas are more important than correct grammar, while that might be objectively true in the long run, in the short term effectively preventing students from advancing their English will not lead to their advancement in society.<ref name=":0" />
-Advocates of Critical Race Theory practice racism in their own lives. Professor Candice Hargon of the University of Kentucky<ref>{{Cite web|title=Candice Hargons – UK College of Education|url=https://education.uky.edu/profile/candice-crowell/|url-status=live|access-date=2022-01-02|website=education.uky.edu}}</ref> runs "anti-racist" workshops for faculty and staff of the university through The Center For Healing Racial Trauma.<ref>{{Cite web|title=HOME|url=https://www.centerforhealingracialtrauma.com/|url-status=live|access-date=2022-01-02|website=Center for Healing|language=en}}</ref> At these workshops Hargon "instructs administrators to 'replace white supremacy with the more accurate white inferiority complex.'”<ref>{{Cite web|title=University Of Kentucky Spends Thousands On Anti-Racist Workshop Urging Administrators To Accept ‘White Inferiority Complex’|url=https://www.yaf.org/news/university-of-kentucky-spends-thousands-on-anti-racist-workshop-urging-administrators-to-accept-white-inferiority-complex/|access-date=2022-01-03|website=Young America's Foundation|language=en}}</ref> infecting people of non-color with racist ideas about their own identities. It is also reported that Hargon does racist business charging people of non-color more for her services than people of color.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Top 7 Examples of Critical Race Theory in Education in 2021|url=https://www.yaf.org/news/top-7-examples-of-critical-race-theory-in-education-in-2021/|url-status=live|access-date=2022-01-02|website=Young America's Foundation|language=en}}</ref> How is that different than preventing people of color from sitting on certain seats on the bus or using a certain water fountain? Racism cannot be solved with more racism!
-The Racist ideology of CRT has even made its way into preschool. The Philadelphia based ''Children's Community School'' created an infographic describing when inherit racism is developed by toddlers.<ref>{{Cite web|last=childrenscommunityschool_mchks0|title=Social Justice Resources|url=http://www.childrenscommunityschool.org/social-justice-resources/|url-status=live|access-date=2022-01-02|website=Children's Community School|language=en-US}}</ref> That infographic cites a study by Kelly, David<ref>{{Cite journal|last=Kelly|first=David J.|last2=Quinn|first2=Paul C.|last3=Slater|first3=Alan M.|last4=Lee|first4=Kang|last5=Gibson|first5=Alan|last6=Smith|first6=Michael|last7=Ge|first7=Liezhong|last8=Pascalis|first8=Olivier|date=2005-11|title=Three-month-olds, but not newborns, prefer own-race faces|url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/|journal=Developmental science|volume=8|issue=6|pages=F31–F36|doi=10.1111/j.1467-7687.2005.0434a.x|issn=1363-755X|pmc=2566511|pmid=16246233|access-date=2022-01-02}}</ref> supporting the idea that while newborns have no face preference 3 month old babies prefer faces from their own race. Studies of this nature do nothing to support the claim that white men designed the United States as a racist country. All babies prefer faces of their own race, that does not constitute racism it supports parent child and family child bonding. Healthy children should feel a sense of belonging to their family. We do nothing to support inclusion, tolerance and fairness when we seek to label childrens' healthy natural instincts as racist constructs of American society.
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