User talk:BilCat

CONSIDERING RETIREMENT

BilCat is strongly considering retirement, although nothing is set in stone...

• See User:BilCat#Corporate Stupidity for further information.

Merry Christmas!

Hi BilCat! I just wanted to say thanks for all you do on aircraft and military aircraft articles. I hope you have a very Merry Christmas, and may the coming year bring you great joy and good fortune. And, if you don't celebrate Christmas, then please take it as a Happy Hanukkah, a great Dhanu Sankranti, a blessed Hatsumode, or whatever holiday you want to insert there. Zaereth (talk) 23:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much, and a Merry Christmas to you and yours. (And yes, I do celebrate Christmas.) BilCat (talk) 02:12, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

CAC Ceres and Huh? tag

I suspect that the ICI in question would be Imperial Chemical Industries or one of its many subsidiaries - it would make sense that a company that manufactured fertilisers, pesticides etc would be interested in means of application. Of course without a source it would be difficult to confirm this.Nigel Ish (talk) 08:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't have a clue what it might be. BilCat (talk) 06:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello BilCat, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022. Happy editing, FOX 52 talk! 01:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also. BilCat (talk) 02:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

New Year in advance

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello BilCat, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022. Happy editing, ItcouldbepossibleTalk 03:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Itcouldbepossible^Talk 03:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I am ICBP. I saw that you had thanked me for an edit made almost a month back. I wonder how you found that old edit? And thanks for supporting that edit of mine. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 03:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

I was following up on some edits by Special:Contributions/83.47.127.58. on of which was to the Juan Trippe article. The edit you reverted was right after that IP's edit. I've thanked editors for edits made over 12 years ago, so a month is relatively recent for me. I'm pretty free with my Thanks, but of course only registered editors can get them. Yet one more thing IP-only users miss out on! BilCat (talk) 04:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Roanoke Colony

Hello Bilcat, I have received a message about editing to a Roanoke Colony article that I had performed, since it has been removed I can no longer look back on it and see what I did that was incorrect. If I could receive some feedback as to what was incorrect about the article specifically, that would be very much appreciated. NickKaster (talk) 22:20, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

@NickKaster: Hi Nick. Per the notices posted on your talk page, the text you added was copyrighted, specifically from this website. Wikipedia cannot legally host copyrighted information. As a one-time issue, you're not "in trouble", and may continue to edit, but please realize that persistent copyright violations may result in users being blocked. Please read the notice on your talk page for further information, and for helpful links to information on how to avoid violating copyrights in the future. BilCat (talk) 22:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The WikiEagle - January 2022

The WikiEagle

The WikiProject Aviation Newsletter

Volume I — Issue 1
Aviation Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Outreach • The WikiEagle
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

USS Holland (SS-1)

I really do appreciate your attention to this page. However, I would like to make a request. Please remove the hand drawn image of the Holland. It is an amateurish rendering that looks as if a child drew it. It is representative of the Holland in only the most general sense. If you can't use the image that I uploaded, that is fine. There are numerous images of the Holland on the internet that can be used, but please remove the hand drawn image. It makes Wikipedia look bad because the image is laughable and cartoonish. It is very nearly an insult to the Navy and the men who manned our first submarine. Thank you for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveJ576 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

DaveJ576 Let me get this straight. The sketch, which is "a work of a sailor or employee of the U.S. Navy, taken or made as part of that person's official duties" is an insult to the very navy which made it? I don't quite get your logic. If the Navy thought the image was an insult, the Navy never would have published it. - ZLEA _T\^C 20:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Dave, the best thing to do in this case is to post a message on the article's talk page about removing the image. I wouldn't mention it being an "insult to the Navy", however, as that's just hyperbole, but try to keep it as neutral as possible. BilCat (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for the previous remark. Upon reflection it was worded in an inappropriate manner. The simplistic nature of the drawing caught me by surprise and it did not seem to be in keeping with Wikipedia's drive to attain and uphold accuracy and legitimacy. I would urge you to find a suitable replacement. So that my position may be understood, I would like to state that I am a retired USN Chief Petty Officer and I am Qualified in Submarines. I am also a published historian. My only goal is to ensure that Wikipedia is as accurate as it can be. I am still new to the editing process with a lot of learning yet to do on how to properly gather and post pictures. Thank you for your understanding and indulgence in this matter. It is appreciated. DaveJ576 (talk) 21:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

No apologies necessary, Chief. However, it is apparently the work of a US sailor, and as such is probably historically noteworthy. As to using images found on the internet, that is always problematic, as many images are copyrighted or otherwise have licenses that are legally incompatible with Wikipedia's usage policies. However, if some can be found that are verifiable as a work of the US government, then those are useable, as all such works are in the Public Domain. As an aside, thank you for your service, and I do mean that. (About 30 years ago, I thanked a Vietnam Veteran for his service in Vietnam, and he didn't know quite how to take it. But I meant it, then and now. My dad is a Vietnam-era veteran, and my granddad served in WWII. Thankfully they didn't need my dad's specialty in Vietnam, as he was a technician involved with tactical nuclear weapons!) BilCat (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Move

Please move this page to INS Khanderi (S22). Happy editing. I ame Shears (talk) 09:29, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I can't, as there's been an objection at Talk:INS Khanderi (2017). You'll have to get a consensus first. Sorry. BilCat (talk) 10:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@I ame shears: Just to be clear, as a WP:Page Mover, I can't perform disputed moves without a consensus. It's part of the rules I have to follow. BilCat (talk) 03:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

F/A-XX program

Just so you know, Swatjester has been saying some less than flattering things about you at Talk:F/A-XX program#Disambiguation page links. - ZLEA _T\^C 03:12, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Just taking the high road, and giving them some WP:ROPE. I was quite surprised to find out they were an admin, given their behavior over removing a DAB link in an article! We'll see how it goes soon enough. BilCat (talk) 03:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

We might be dealing with a compromised account, given the limited edits they've made in the last 5 years. Curiouser and curiouser. BilCat (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I've sent an email to the Stewards, hopefully they will look into it and, if it is compromised, lock the account before any damage can be done. - ZLEA _T\^C 05:03, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Their mistaking Wolf for an admin is a rookie mistake, not something one expects of an admin. Just weird. BilCat (talk) 05:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I've contacted Martin Urbanec on Discord, and after checking he said that it is unlikely to be compromised. He then suggested that we contact ArbCom for a WP:LEVEL2. - ZLEA _T\^C 14:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

ArbCom has been contacted. - ZLEA _T\^C 15:22, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	For consistently thanking me. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 05:31, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

You're most welcome. It's an easy way to say good job/nice edit/etc. BilCat (talk) 05:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I certainly agree. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 05:41, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes I even use it to mean "my bad - you were right"! BilCat (talk) 05:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Probably a good idea. Heh. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 06:42, 7 January 2022 (UTC)