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Is there a consensus on whether these separatist entities should be shown on the map in the infobox? I can't be bothered to go through the history to find out how long the separatist entities have been shown on either of these maps, but obviously they should be consistent. |
Is there a consensus on whether these separatist entities should be shown on the map in the infobox? I can't be bothered to go through the history to find out how long the separatist entities have been shown on either of these maps, but obviously they should be consistent. |
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If it needs to be restored here is the version of the "map of Ukraine within Europe" without the separatist entities highlight: [[:File:Europe-Ukraine_(disputed_territory).svg]]. |
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Q1. Why is Ukraine listed as the second-largest country in Europe? France is. (Or alternately, Denmark is.)
It's an ambiguous statement, and depends on whether you include non-European territories or not, and whether you include disputed territories or not. The totality of France (which includes French Guiana) is larger than Ukraine, but the European part of France (Metropolitan France) is smaller than Ukraine. Although Denmark is in Europe, Greenland is in North America. Q2. Kyiv or Kiev?
This is a topic for discussion at Talk:Kyiv. The current transliteration is based on the Ukrainian spelling of the name: "Kyiv" (pronounced "KEE-ev"). The Russian version is "Kiev" (pronounced "KEE-ef") is associated with the Russification of Ukraine. Source:."Slownik geograficzny Krolestwa Polskiego i innych krajow slowianskich". Druk „Wieku” Nowy Świat. 1883. Archived from the original on 5 March 2022. |
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Change "occupied/annexed territories" to "occupied/disputed territories"
Please change the image label "Location of Ukraine (green) Occupied/annexed territories prior to the 2022 Russian invasion (light green)" to "Location of Ukraine (green) Occupied/disputed territories prior to the 2022 Russian invasion (light green)" as it's the conventional way . PadFoot2008 (talk) 16:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's pretty evident that the territories are disputed, there isn't a need to respell that out. CMD (talk) 03:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah so correct it. PadFoot2008 (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Whether they are "occupied" or have been "annexed" is the dispute, using occupied/annexed makes that clear. A simple "disputed" would also be acceptable. The form "occupied/disputed" seems weird to me. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 00:39, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- "occupied/disputed" is either redundant or suggests Ukraine doesn't dispute the occupied territories. Neither is great. I do prefer "occupied/annexed" to a plain disputed, another alternative is the simpler "uncontrolled territories". CMD (talk) 01:58, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Whether they are "occupied" or have been "annexed" is the dispute, using occupied/annexed makes that clear. A simple "disputed" would also be acceptable. The form "occupied/disputed" seems weird to me. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 00:39, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah so correct it. PadFoot2008 (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Include history and presidency of Volodymyr Zelenskyy 92.0.43.10 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Add period from 2017 to 2022 including history and presidency of Volodymyr Zelenskyy 92.0.43.10 (talk) 18:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- The history section here is already too long - perhaps you could add the info to History of Ukraine? Also it would be great if you could suggest changes to shorten the history section. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Still looking for someone to shorten the history section
As discussed earlier it is three-quarters the size of the main article, whereas I think it should be less than half.
Anyone needs a challenge and has time? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:11, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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Since the map keeps getting switch between the Globe and Europe view as it was done yesterday, can somebody add this? A switcher between the two so this can stop happening. --Aaron106 (talk) 02:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Aidan9382 (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
@Aidan9382: Thank you, this map is probably more better to use in Globe rather than the other one people were using. Do you think you could replace it with this one? --Aaron106 (talk) 15:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also Done. Looks more inline with the globes of other country pages. Thanks for suggesting these! Aidan9382 (talk) 16:14, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Location map in the infobox
The map of Ukraine within Europe shows the separatist entities in the east in a lighter shade of green. The globe map does not. Both are viewable with the radio buttons though the globe view is shown by default.
Is there a consensus on whether these separatist entities should be shown on the map in the infobox? I can't be bothered to go through the history to find out how long the separatist entities have been shown on either of these maps, but obviously they should be consistent.
If it needs to be restored here is the version of the "map of Ukraine within Europe" without the separatist entities highlight: File:Europe-Ukraine_(disputed_territory).svg.
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