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*:You are absolutely correct, I apologize. While I don't quite understand why the structure is as it is, that's a matter for another day. [[User:ヤクブ|ヤクブ]] ([[User talk:ヤクブ|talk]]) 19:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
*:You are absolutely correct, I apologize. While I don't quite understand why the structure is as it is, that's a matter for another day. [[User:ヤクブ|ヤクブ]] ([[User talk:ヤクブ|talk]]) 19:29, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' Catholicism and Roman Catholicism are not identical. [[Maronite Catholic Eparchy of the Annunciation|Maronites]], for example, are [[Eastern Catholic Churches|Eastern Catholics]] rather than [[Catholic Church|Roman Catholics]]. [[User:Bohemian Baltimore|Bohemian Baltimore]] ([[User talk:Bohemian Baltimore|talk]]) 06:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' Catholicism and Roman Catholicism are not identical. [[Maronite Catholic Eparchy of the Annunciation|Maronites]], for example, are [[Eastern Catholic Churches|Eastern Catholics]] rather than [[Catholic Church|Roman Catholics]]. [[User:Bohemian Baltimore|Bohemian Baltimore]] ([[User talk:Bohemian Baltimore|talk]]) 06:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' or '''reverse merge''' -- I very much doubt that any Eastern Catholic church set up a mission in Nigeria, so that there is no ambiguity. Furthermore, the Eastern Catholic churches are in Communion with Rome and are thus unlikely to set up a rival organisation. This is somewhat different from the situation where there are churches for diasporas in UK, USA, etc. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' or '''reverse merge''' -- I very much doubt that any Eastern Catholic church set up a mission in Nigeria, so that there is no ambiguity. Furthermore, the Eastern Catholic churches are in Communion with Rome and are thus unlikely to set up a rival organisation. This is somewhat different from the situation where there are churches for diasporas in UK, USA, etc. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)\
:* But note that there are other Western-rite bodies that are not in communion with Rome, like the [[Union of Utrecht (Old Catholic)]] or [[Sedevacantism]]. --[[User:Kevlar67|Kevlar]] <small>([[User talk:Kevlar67|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kevlar67|contribs]])</small> 17:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


==== Language activists‎ ====
==== Language activists‎ ====

Revision as of 17:18, 12 June 2022

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June 10

Category:Catholicism in Nigeria

Nominator's rationale: The two categories are essentially identical, and for the sake of simplicity and reducing clutter it would be best for this category to be merged with Catholic Church in Nigeria. ヤクブ (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Language activists‎

Nominator's rationale: The proposed style is less ambiguous than [Foo] language activists, because Basque, Belarusian and so on could refer to nationalities as well as to languages. The style [Foo]-language categories with a hyphen, used by the Polish and Ukrainian categories and by many more of these before this CfD of 29 March, is also ambiguous because the scope is activists on behalf of those languages rather than ones for any cause who conduct their activism in those languages. (That is, they're subcategories of Category:Language activists and not of a hypothetical "activists by language" category.) Pinging 1234qwer1234qwer4, jc37 and Marcocapelle, the editors who !voted in the last CfD. Ham II (talk) 07:15, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish astronauts

Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:OCEGRS (and the relevant list article fails WP:NOT, showing how this is indeed not an appropriate intersection by ethnicity/religion) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, I wouldn't at all be opposed to deleting nearly the whole of Category:Jews by occupation (and similar categories if they exist for other religions/ethnicity). Few, if any, of these intersections are useful navigational groupings or culturally significant phenomena. So WP:OSE is again easily refuted with "the other stuff should be nominated too, when/if somebody has the time for it". RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:33, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Works by period

Nominator's rationale: rename and merge, "by period" is the standard format of these types of categories (e.g. Category:Arts by period, Category:Literature by period, Category:Architecture by period) and there is no reason to have two of these categories. If this goes ahead, I presume that the "by date" and "by period of creation" subcategories can be speedily be renamed to "by period". Marcocapelle (talk) 13:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose To take a random example; "Piano concerti of the Classical period" and "Piano concerti of the Romantic period" (is that how the categories are named? do they even exist? whatever, the idea is the same no matter what the categories are) is a meaningfully separate way to distinguish these than "Piano concerti by date of composition" RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Welsh-speaking countries and territories

Nominator's rationale: There's only one Welsh-speaking country: Wales. DrKay (talk) 06:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On a separate note, there may be an argument for the UK could be included, because Wales is within the UK sovereign state. Yes Wales is not an official language across the whole of the UK and the Welsh parliament acts on Welsh language are part of the UK CONSTITUTION which would suggest legitimacy for its inclusion.Titus Gold (talk) 17:09, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Making a language official doesn't mean anyone speaks it. Don't name a category "Welsh-speaking" and then make up inclusion criteria contradictory to that. Having 1% of the population speaking Welsh doesn't make the place "Welsh-speaking". Largoplazo (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NebY's comment. WP:SMALLCAT very much applies here, and although Welsh is spoken in a few places outside of Wales, it is not a DEFCAT for any place besides, really, Wales (in the same way the even far more widely spoken languages are not DEFCAT for most countries they are spoken in: "German-speaking countries" might reasonably include Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Belgium (and a few more minor places like Luxembourg or Liechtenstein), but including, say, Canada [where it is spoken by 1% of the population] would really be a stretch). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per SMALLCAT. Bondegezou (talk) 09:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- Someone has emptied the category. Wales and Y Wladfa, the Welsh colony in Patagonia would belong, but I suspect the descendants of the Y Wladfa colonists are now largely assimilated within Argentina. Even so SMALLCAT applies. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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