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::I do find it curious that not a single mention of the word Fascism exists on the Wikipedia page; since there are many extremely reliable, peer-reviewed academic journals written on this topic. Now one can disagree to the extent of the accuracy of this label, but the evidence for and against should be presented on the page. [[User:Chomskywala|Chomskywala]] ([[User talk:Chomskywala|talk]]) 07:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC) |
::I do find it curious that not a single mention of the word Fascism exists on the Wikipedia page; since there are many extremely reliable, peer-reviewed academic journals written on this topic. Now one can disagree to the extent of the accuracy of this label, but the evidence for and against should be presented on the page. Even the linked pages for Hindutva and the RSS clearly state their association with Fascism [[User:Chomskywala|Chomskywala]] ([[User talk:Chomskywala|talk]]) 07:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== Adding Centre-Right to Right == |
== Adding Centre-Right to Right == |
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Adding far-right to BJP political position
The BJP are far-right since they are islamophobic and anti-Christian at times, and they have a large hard-right faction — Preceding unsigned comment added by Produda (talk • contribs) 17:42, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please provide reliable sources before changes to the article can be made. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- There are several academic sources which link the BJP and RSS to Fascism; or proto-facism or UR-Facism
- https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0268580920937226?casa_token=cmWkLdJ5En0AAAAA%3AV0Z-ya1PmHtL8m8YxaoezUiVIo6HAYfcx0VOmuFGXOQEUmwdmbGCSP8PR1EP3gtVZMocScMwb5lOmg
- https://www.jstor.org/stable/44166046?casa_token=O7AJ6Z1cpLUAAAAA%3AP_K-JKIoNEL1haWrvWOG0Mw4l6XwwhqO2NrEnstg4cbGYp7qD93IDjANyLXvBYeDPN8GI1TzznBUdvS_zL_09wdSWbA1LA7iQGTHDLjDBQg3J5NsxlU4&seq=1
- https://www.jstor.org/stable/3517631?casa_token=0RHWWe9-oPYAAAAA%3ArF7RjsDPDD_LLjIe2TjuSUhrsNFAJ01Z32sd2wyQMqiqZM8xTmxVvRP6NsdRTtAtjwq6UBpX_vCVGbjS82Gxx8OfWAfg6sj3qx4ZSlS8gqpTU_OiHtPK&seq=1
- https://www.jstor.org/stable/4399339?casa_token=6q6fwSBhTs8AAAAA%3AzIipOMY2QLoY6qeACDuHApuq_cFEoJV71MO9eMmvVcU6BuZ4O6fcAaPz-u4G2saspyZKlzzIv3GpeLLJO56H-3PS0kCBtvfdgdoXfO9ZFZ9FmSOZQplM&seq=1
- https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=BJP+fascism
- I do find it curious that not a single mention of the word Fascism exists on the Wikipedia page; since there are many extremely reliable, peer-reviewed academic journals written on this topic. Now one can disagree to the extent of the accuracy of this label, but the evidence for and against should be presented on the page. Even the linked pages for Hindutva and the RSS clearly state their association with Fascism Chomskywala (talk) 07:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Adding Centre-Right to Right
I feel like it would be more accurate to list the BJP as Centre-Right to Right. Similar parties (such as the People's Action Party, Tories, ect.) are listed as Centre Right, but there is also Islamophobic sections of the party (the party is officially secular), which also makes it Right. The party is officially against caste and religious discrimination ("[BJP's] driving force is national approach to all issues rising above caste and religion.": https://www.bjp.org/philosophy) and the current Prime Minister, Modi, also referred to Muslims as "sisters" and fought against the triple talak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyv30ZIr6Yc), but there are also extremists in the party such as Yogi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIBm2voGIvA). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omgaddad (talk • contribs) 22:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Reliable WP:SECONDARY sources have been cited for "right-wing". You need to provide similar sources for "center-right". Your own opinions or BJP's self-representations are of no consequence whatsoever. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:29, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I was basing my statement off another source used in the Wikipedia page "List of political parties in India", which is:
- https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics-1602678118-1 (Tertiary Source)
- I was not basing this off my own personal opinion. Although, this is all based on if you accept this other Wikipedia source as acceptable. I found another article to what seems like a more left-leaning source, but it is still an opinion page:
- https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics-1602678118-1 (Secondary Source)
- And if you check the official party constitution and it's website, it's pretty moderate, and often times sounds like the talk of a left wing party. The party is secular and it's official party constitution states:
- "The party aims at establishing a democratic state which
- guarantees to all citizens irrespective of caste, creed or sex, political,
- social and economic justice, equality of opportunity and liberty of
- faith and expression."
- Of course, I will not disagree with you. My judgement might blind me, and I want some feedback. I believe it's clear that the party is officially very much Centre-Right, but it's more Right-Wing when it comes to social issues, therefore pointing to my request of making it "Centre-Right to Right", or even "Centre-Right to Far Right" if you see it fit. Omgaddad (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I meant to say "Is BJP really a "Right-Wing" Party?" for the second source, but it won't send Omgaddad (talk) 03:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just checked that the source comes from a right wing website. I was mistaken. Omgaddad (talk) 03:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is essentially a blog post. It is in no way comparable to the peer-reviewed journal articles that have been cited for "right-wing". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- If that's so, then I suggest you change the other article. Thank you. Omgaddad (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- I still encourage a note be made regarding the party constitution somewhere in the article Omgaddad (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- If that's so, then I suggest you change the other article. Thank you. Omgaddad (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is essentially a blog post. It is in no way comparable to the peer-reviewed journal articles that have been cited for "right-wing". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just checked that the source comes from a right wing website. I was mistaken. Omgaddad (talk) 03:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I meant to say "Is BJP really a "Right-Wing" Party?" for the second source, but it won't send Omgaddad (talk) 03:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Adding BJP and Religious minorities
It seems necessary to add this title to the article. Given that there are many resources on this subjectAye1399 (talk) 14:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC) https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/30/india-religious-minorities-under-attack-christian-muslim-modi-bjp/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/04/india-christians-living-in-fear-claims-forced-conversions
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Change the number of Lok sabha seats from 301 to 303 Purushottam Sinha (talk) 10:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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2409:4042:E07:A32:F2FA:A37A:D30A:9DD9 (talk) 16:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Edit bjp mps in loksabha
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 18:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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