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:I have tagged it for speedy deletion. @[[User:Tekcorps|Tekcorps]], if you want to use the text on that site as a basis for a draft, you ''must'' do the rewrite somewhere else - not on Wikipedia. You can't copy/paste copyrighted content here and then rewrite it afterwards. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 14:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC) |
:I have tagged it for speedy deletion. @[[User:Tekcorps|Tekcorps]], if you want to use the text on that site as a basis for a draft, you ''must'' do the rewrite somewhere else - not on Wikipedia. You can't copy/paste copyrighted content here and then rewrite it afterwards. [[Special:Contributions/199.208.172.35|199.208.172.35]] ([[User talk:199.208.172.35|talk]]) 14:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC) |
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A new discussion about a new WikiProject related to Teahouse is currently being discussed. Share your thoughts [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Smartphones|here]]. [[User:SMBMovieFan|SMBMovieFan]] ([[User talk:SMBMovieFan|talk]]) 02:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC) |
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Why does a bot (occasionally humans too) change HTTP links to HTTPS links?
Some websites like The Wayback Machine don't have the secure S after the HTTP but still the bots and people change it to HTTPS anyway.
Most of the time it doesn't really matter, as the HTTPS links will redirect to the original HTTP url when you click on it.
However I've noticed some websites in the past which don't redirect to the original HTTP url, so it will look like the website which was originally added as a reference or an external link, is dead to people who have never visited that website before, therefore it could end up getting removed or replaced. Danstarr69 (talk) 07:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Danstarr69: Could you give some examples? If the websites do not support HTTPS, then it's most likely a bug and should be reported to the bot developer. Also, Wayback Machine does seem to support HTTPS. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 13:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Danstarr69: If both work then https is preferred by Help:Link#http: and https: and Wikipedia:External links#Specifying protocols. Bots and editors should only change to https if it works. Do you have an example where a change was made and it broke the link? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Darylgolden PrimeHunter I don't have any examples at the moment, as I'm constantly searching random websites for stuff mainly related to film and TV.
- However HTTP urls, mainly seem to be on older websites which aren't being updated anymore, like old BBC Programme Pages, but could be the only source of the information you want to reference.
- The question just came to mind when I noticed that the bot had changed a HTTP Wayback Machine url I added, to a HTTPS url.
- And as I've found when archiving links myself on the Wayback Machine and Archive Today (which I do on a daily basis), the S makes a massive difference as to whether a link still works or not.
- I used to add S to all the links I archived, but after trying to find something that had been deleted, which I thought I had archived, I realised it didn't work because I had added the S when I archived it, so now I just add them as they are, or archive them with both HTTP and HTTPS links.
- If what PrimeHunter says about "Bots and editors should only change to https if it works" is true, then there shouldn't be a problem. Danstarr69 (talk) 14:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I believe I understand what you're trying to say. Wayback Machine URLs come in the form https://web.archive.org/web/timestamp/original URL, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20221031030148/https://example.org/pages/topic/index.html. The presence of the green s denotes wether your own browser will use the encrypted version of http to connect to the Wayback Machine servers to display an archive, and is optional because the wayback machine servers support both protocols for viewing archives. The darkred s, however, denotes wether the wayback machine originally used https when fetching the page from the original server for archiving. Which values work for the darkred s depend on wether the original server supported both protocols, and the Wayback Machine treats http and https URLs in this spot as separate. Wether the darkred s is present depends on wether the protocol in the URL you asked the Wayback Machine to archive used https. (I always recommend asking the wayback machine to archive the URL as displayed in one's browsers address bar, and check wether altering it would affect the result by attempting to load the modified URL) Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 20:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Danstarr69: If both work then https is preferred by Help:Link#http: and https: and Wikipedia:External links#Specifying protocols. Bots and editors should only change to https if it works. Do you have an example where a change was made and it broke the link? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
BC/AD vs BCE/CE
I would be interested to know why the article titles on years, decades, centuries, and millennia use the BC/AD system of dates rather than BCE/CE. I've seen both conventions used in Wikipedia articles and am aware of the policy of MOS:ERA which says to use the one based on the context of the article as they are both correct. My question to you is why the article titles on years, decades, centuries, and millennia use the BC/AD rather than BCE/CE and who made the decision to use the titles? Interstellarity (talk) 12:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Interstellarity: Generally when someone starts an article that requires an era desgnation, the editor simply uses whatever is personally preferable. If the editor has a Christian background, then there is an automatic unintentional bias to use BC/AD. Even though I'm not religious myself, I had a tendency to do that before I started editing here. For an article topic that has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian religion, history, culture, architecture, literature, art, etc., then it's probably justified to change the era to the secular BCE/CE after getting some consensus on the talk page. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:05, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- The question is about the title of general articles like AD 10, 13 BC, 420s BC, 16th century BC, 2nd millennium BC. I think they should use the same naming convention for consistency. @Interstellarity: I don't know how the convention to use BC was chosen or whether it has been discussed. For the use of AD, see Talk:AD 1/Archive 1#What should the articles from 1 to 100 be moved to? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- MOS:ERA is part of a guideline, the "Manual of Style/Dates and Numbers", and is part of another guideline, the Manual of Style. Article titles are governed by the policy Wikipedia:Article titles. Adherence to policies is required, while guidelines are just suggestions. The guideline that applies to dates and numbers within article titles is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (numbers and dates), and that guideline indicates article titles should use AD or BC when needed. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Didn't understand a notification
Hi, (again)
I just got this:
"An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Roly-Poly (T-ara song), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Musical."
Can somone explain this to me please? RWikiED20 (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I agree that message is not very helpful. Wikilinks in articles should not lead to a disambiguation page. If you click on that link you will see that it leads to a page describing the different meanings of the word musical. It should instead link to musical theatre. Shantavira|feed me 09:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @RWikiED20, this means that, when you added a link in the article, it pointed to a disambiguation page, which does not point to the target article you wanted. I think I fixed it in this edit. Kpddg (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- oh, I got that. Thank you! RWikiED20 (talk) 10:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
ERROR IN YOUR ARTICLE ON WILLIAM COWPERS BRANN
In the article on Wm. Cowpers Brann the article states " On April 1, 1898, Brann was walking alone on Waco's Fourth Street when he was shot in the back by Tom Davis, a Baylor supporter whose daughter was a student at the University." Brann was not alone, as he was accompanied by W.H. Ward who grabbed Davis' gun preventing him from firing until he (Ward) was shot in the hand. Ward was tried but acquitted and told to leave town for his own safety. Davis had 5 daughters and one son. All the daughters attended Baylor and their aunt(Tom's sister Maggie Davis Allen) had bestowed a large sum of money and some property to Baylor. The Sheriff's report and the testimonies are all on the internet and can be viewed for free. Tom Davis was my Great Grandfather. His son James was my mother's father. 2601:1C0:6080:3FD0:64B3:25A5:58DD:A5D2 (talk) 10:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- I assume you mean William Cowper Brann. Wikipedia reports what reliable sources report. Do you have a reliable source for your assertion? If, so feel free to propose this as Talk:William Cowper Brann. Shantavira|feed me 10:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
reliable srources
Hello, Are these reliable sources for wikipedia: [1]https://disruptmagazine.com/career-in-medicine-inspiring-story-from-real-world-doctor-yousef-abo-zarad-2/ [2]https://www.mid-day.com/brand-media/article/doctor-yousef-abo-zarad-a-youth-iconic-dermatologist-who-promotes-good-and-heal-23252348 [3]https://www.ibtimes.sg/dermatologist-social-media-star-millions-subscribers-what-makes-this-doctor-yousef-turn-his-67057 [4]https://techbullion.com/encouraging-voyage-of-most-followed-arab-dermatologist-doctor-yousef-abo-zarad/ 212.133.192.93 (talk) 12:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- It depends what you want the sources to support. I looked at the first, which says of the author of the piece "[she is] helping them amplify their message and build their brand & online presence." That sounds like WP:PROMOTION and mere puffery, not something we would encourage here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- All four sources are versions of the same promotional blurb. None of them is reliable or independent. --bonadea contributions talk 08:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Create a new Wiki Page
Dear Editors: Greetings, Raylaur 15 here. I am interested in creating a new wiki article on West Indian soca arranger and pianist Frankie McIntosh. I believe he meets your "notable" criteria, as he arranged the music and played on hundreds of influential scoa (soul/calypso music from Trinidad)) recordings during the 1980s and 1990s. He worked with all the big stars--Sparrow, Lord Kitchner Calypso Rose, Chalkdust, and scores of others. His accomplishments are well documented in the Caribbean press and in several scholarly sources.
I have now edited ten Wikipedia pages over the past week (Oct 21-25) as follows: Calypso Rose Soca Music Calypso Music Latin Jazz Granville Straker Mighty Shadow Steel Pan List Caribbean Music Genres Lord Kitchener Mighty Sparrow
Am I now eligible to write an original Wikipedia article? Is there some official approval protocol I need to go through, or can I simply go ahead and write and submit the article?
Please advise.
best, Ray Raylaur15 (talk) 13:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Welome to the Teahouse and it's great that you want to expand the encyclopedia. Writing a new article is not easy and I strongly suggest you follow the procedure at Help:Your first article. Shantavira|feed me 14:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- In thoery, you could just create the article, but new-to-Wikipedia editors are advised to go through YFA, which leads to submitting a draft for a review decision by an experienced reviewer. If Declined, the reviewer will give reasons that identify (some) of the draft's inadequacies. If those fixed and draft resubmitted, possible the next reviewer will have different reasons to Decline. References always essential. David notMD (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- David: Thankd for your response. I will go through the YFA tutorial before creating and submitting a new article. 
- best,
- Raylaur15 Raylaur15 (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- In thoery, you could just create the article, but new-to-Wikipedia editors are advised to go through YFA, which leads to submitting a draft for a review decision by an experienced reviewer. If Declined, the reviewer will give reasons that identify (some) of the draft's inadequacies. If those fixed and draft resubmitted, possible the next reviewer will have different reasons to Decline. References always essential. David notMD (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
How to contribute in other ways?
Hello,
So I have been editing on Wikipedia for a while - I guess since 2017. But I have been looking for some bigger opportunities to contribute to Wikimedia - not only for the experience but also because I genuinely relate to their mission.
So I knew about Administrative Roles, WMLabs and Phabricator but how do you go about helping in them? I am not very proficient with code but if there are any other non-coding ways through which I can contribute - I would love to. Komchi✉☆ 14:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Komchi You may already be aware of it but the task center may provide some inspiration. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
St Mungo's High School - Over detailed comment from John
St Mungo's High School - Hi there, John reverted my edits on the schools facilities. I was thinking the Pastoral and Management staff is overdetailed and could be trimmed down a little with the School Facilities staying as it does detail what the school has. Is there a specific rule for this? Would I be able to add some things back trimmed down? Thanks for your help so far guys. Haksataylor (talk) 16:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Haksataylor The aim for Wikipedia editors is to find a WP:CONSENSUS for what should be in articles. The place to discuss that is on the Talk Page of the article. A relevant policy is WP:UNDUE but you need to discuss the specifics with the other editor, who you can WP:PING to your discussion. This is our standard WP:BRD process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:10, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- And @Haksataylor would you mind noting how you found that article and thought to caution an editor who had been editing it? If you two have a connection to the school, per WP:COI and WP:PAID, you need to disclose that. Star Mississippi 17:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there, Yes I can answer the question for you. So the IP address which has been banned was one of the schools.
- There was another person who edited the schools page but what I did pick up from being a pupil is the regular mistakes such as typo's etc.
- I am currently unaware of who it is but the reason I have created an account is to make sure the information displayed is accurate and reliable. To your question, yes I do have an affiliation with the school I am a current senior pupil. I am happy to discuss anything further.
- Thanks. Haksa. Haksataylor (talk) 17:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that information and clarification @Haksataylor. As a senior pupil, you should probably make use of WP:Edit Requests although it may not be required. You should definitely note the connection on your User page. As far as your question about re-adding trimmed information, I'd suggest looking to see what independent reliable sources have to say about your school. Probably less likely to talk about where classes are held and maybe some information about notable programs. Is that helpful? Have a great day and thanks for your contributions. Star Mississippi 17:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks again for that! I'll definitely take on what you are saying about the user page, I can understand the conflict of interest and the highlighting of it. I'll also take a look at what you have highlighted there and take a look at it. Thanks again, I will let you know if there is any problems. Haksataylor (talk) 18:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Happy to help, along with official teahouse hosts. Have a great day! Star Mississippi 18:09, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- one other piece of help @Haksataylor. If you want John to see that you asked a question about his edit, you would use {{ping|John}} this formatting, where you replace John with the user name of the editor you're asking. I've pinged @John on your behalf here. Star Mississippi 18:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- This may be a silly question but where would I ping someone for future reference?
- Would it be in my own talk page, the talk page of the article in question?
- Thanks @Star Mississippi Haksataylor (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- There are no silly questions. As @Michael D. Turnbull suggested above, if talking about an article, I would use the Talk page that way any editors (now or in the future} interested in the school can find the discussion rather than remember it was you or another editor they had been talking to. So in this case it would be Talk:St Mungo's High School. But you can ping someone on any discussion page, as you did here and it notified me that you m mentioned me. If you're discussing something on your talk, or another editor's the ping function works there but easiest to keep content discussions central. Star Mississippi 18:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! Thank you! Haksataylor (talk) 18:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- There are no silly questions. As @Michael D. Turnbull suggested above, if talking about an article, I would use the Talk page that way any editors (now or in the future} interested in the school can find the discussion rather than remember it was you or another editor they had been talking to. So in this case it would be Talk:St Mungo's High School. But you can ping someone on any discussion page, as you did here and it notified me that you m mentioned me. If you're discussing something on your talk, or another editor's the ping function works there but easiest to keep content discussions central. Star Mississippi 18:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks again for that! I'll definitely take on what you are saying about the user page, I can understand the conflict of interest and the highlighting of it. I'll also take a look at what you have highlighted there and take a look at it. Thanks again, I will let you know if there is any problems. Haksataylor (talk) 18:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that information and clarification @Haksataylor. As a senior pupil, you should probably make use of WP:Edit Requests although it may not be required. You should definitely note the connection on your User page. As far as your question about re-adding trimmed information, I'd suggest looking to see what independent reliable sources have to say about your school. Probably less likely to talk about where classes are held and maybe some information about notable programs. Is that helpful? Have a great day and thanks for your contributions. Star Mississippi 17:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- And @Haksataylor would you mind noting how you found that article and thought to caution an editor who had been editing it? If you two have a connection to the school, per WP:COI and WP:PAID, you need to disclose that. Star Mississippi 17:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Oh well that was disappointing. Thanks @Ponyo: for the housekeeping. Star Mississippi 20:37, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Star Mississippi: I can see them toggling between the accounts/logins. There is a possibility that it could be WP:MEAT with two people editing from the same devices, but they contend above that they don't know the identity of the blocked user which, based on the technical evidence, is extremely dubious.-- Ponyobons mots 20:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh to be clear I wasn't doubting your findings @Ponyo. My spidey sense went off when Haksataylor knew about the other account to warn them, but I was trying my hardest to AGF. Schools: so much drama for so little return. Star Mississippi 21:04, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I just wanted to add a tad of context regarding the technical data in case they appeal the block.-- Ponyobons mots 21:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- makes sense, which they did. Beyond my scope of understanding and of course not a CU so defer to you/team. Star Mississippi 21:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I just wanted to add a tad of context regarding the technical data in case they appeal the block.-- Ponyobons mots 21:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh to be clear I wasn't doubting your findings @Ponyo. My spidey sense went off when Haksataylor knew about the other account to warn them, but I was trying my hardest to AGF. Schools: so much drama for so little return. Star Mississippi 21:04, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
How to edit basic information for a persons page on the site.
I was looking up someone I used to know and found a page on them on this site. However quite a bit of info is incorrect (verified through government sites for some) including the basic info listed about them. I can find how to edit all other ares, but not the basic info. How to do so? Tryitouts (talk) 17:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Tryitouts I assume you refer to the article Byron Chubbuck which you recently edited in this diff to alter the DOB to 1967 when previously the information cited to his inmate profile said 1966. How do you know the 1967 date is correct? Wikipedia relies on published sources and editors cannot change details because they "know" them to be correct, since readers' ability to verify information is a core policy. Do you have a WP:COI in relation to Chubbuck? If so you must declare it on your own User Page and/or the Talk Page of that article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
How to get more info in a topic.
Hello, hope you guys are having a good day, you guys have any tips to get more info in certain topics, because sometimes I look and look but never find anything help, thanks! Massacreek (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Massacreek, you have made two edits in the last month: the one immediately above, and another in Seoul Halloween crowd crush. You described the latter edit as "Added more description about the victims." The edit consisted of the addition of one space. I like to "assume good faith", but here I have difficulty doing so. -- Hoary (talk) 23:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes sorry god, I will put the Social Security of the victims next time. Shut up and get a life god damn it, I was asking for advice not for your opinion lmao. Massacreek (talk) 00:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Massacreek, telling an editor to 'shut up and get a life' is not a good idea. In general do not use Wikipedia to search about a topic, since you will only get the correct result if you know what the article subject is called. If you need more in-depth information on the subject of a Wikipedia article, look at the references and try some of the links or books there. Sungodtemple (talk) 00:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I was really looking for a tip. Mr. Hoary gave a opinion, something that I like but was not looking for. Thank you and I will learn from this, I don't know why older uses pick on new users. People like this volunteer to give simple info to public so is best one gets advice and doesn't get attacked for asking for one Hoary could have simply told me my mistake and sure I would have taken it but the thing he said is just not an advice is just a personal opinion I'm not looking for. Sorry Mr. Hoary but please I don't want your opinion, thank you Sun appreciate the tip! Massacreek (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Massacreek, this page is mostly used by people trying (or failing) to contribute to articles or to create them. I sleepily assumed that that was how you'd intended your question to be read. But this isn't the only purpose of the page, and Sungodtemple points out that you may instead have been asking about reading Wikipedia's articles and what to do when they don't sate your appetite. Sungodtemple's advice is excellent; but if you give an example or two either (A) of articles that deliver little or nothing or (B) of subject areas that Wikipedia doesn't address, perhaps we can give additional advice. -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Massacreek, telling an editor to 'shut up and get a life' is not a good idea. In general do not use Wikipedia to search about a topic, since you will only get the correct result if you know what the article subject is called. If you need more in-depth information on the subject of a Wikipedia article, look at the references and try some of the links or books there. Sungodtemple (talk) 00:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes sorry god, I will put the Social Security of the victims next time. Shut up and get a life god damn it, I was asking for advice not for your opinion lmao. Massacreek (talk) 00:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
How do you guys use the footnote template?
I tried doing footnotes through the footnote template but my text won't show up, help! Slaythe (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I believe that this is about Template:NoteTag, which within User:Slaythe/sandbox hasn't yet worked as hoped for. -- Hoary (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Exaclty Hoary. Slaythe (talk) 13:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Slaythe Is it fixed by this edit by @Rotideypoc41352? Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Though it feels like it is missing in something, thank you Mike. Slaythe (talk) 13:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Slaythe Is it fixed by this edit by @Rotideypoc41352? Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
I feel Latvian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic is an important article that could use refinement. I would appreciate it if I could find other editors (new like me, or with more experience) willing to help and provide input. I would like to go through the article paragraph by paragraph in partnership with other people. I feel working with other editors will yield a better result than trying to tackle such a big job alone and in a vacuum. I also want to discuss (learn) methods and approach. Thanks in advance! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps a good place to make an invitation such as this would be Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Latvia. -- Hoary (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- kk, thanks! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 03:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- You could also try WP:SOCIALISM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Flibbertigibbets: You were right to post on Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic. I think you should just BEBOLD and make the changes you want and if anyone has any concerns they will let you know. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 06:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Tim I will approach the project incrementally (a little bit at a time)! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 11:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Flibbertigibbets, you could indeed also try WP:SOCIALISM (or anyway its talk page). However, I don't recommend that you do before seeing what reaction you get from Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Latvia. And if you do post on any second (or third) project talk page, do so in a way that doesn't risk starting a parallel discussion. (The gist of a good post: "I've posted to Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic a message about improving the article Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic. I invite you to take a look and to comment at the former if interested.") -- Hoary (talk) 07:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Flibbertigibbets: You were right to post on Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic. I think you should just BEBOLD and make the changes you want and if anyone has any concerns they will let you know. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 06:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- You could also try WP:SOCIALISM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- kk, thanks! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 03:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Logo does not show up in the infobox
Logo does not show up. Organisation logos in infoboxes are common practice on Wikipedia. But this one (link to article) does not show up. Why does it now show up? MahaNakhon (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- The logo is visible on Wikipedia, but not Wikimedia. Uploaded with Upload Wizard. MahaNakhon (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- That logo is hosted locally on the English Wikipedia, and so cannot be used in the Swedish edition. Uploading this to sewiki would require following Swedish copyright law and the policies of that Wikipedia. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 16:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Maddy from Celeste: MahaNakhon uploaded two copies of the image to enwiki. I have tagged one copy for F1 and the other for F5 speedy deletion. – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 16:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Complex logos are, in most cases, subject to copyright restrictions and cannot be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which is for freely licensed and public domain images and videos only. A logo uploaded as non free content to the English Wikipedia can only be used in an English language Wikipedia article about the company. Because there is no English language article about CombinedX, the logo cannot be hosted here and must be deleted. MahaNakhon, you need to research the policies regarding logos on the Swedish Wikipedia, and if appropriate, upload the logo there. Their policies may vary. Read WP:LOGO for more information about use of logos here. Cullen328 (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Maddy from Celeste: MahaNakhon uploaded two copies of the image to enwiki. I have tagged one copy for F1 and the other for F5 speedy deletion. – dudhhr talk contribs (he/they) 16:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- That logo is hosted locally on the English Wikipedia, and so cannot be used in the Swedish edition. Uploading this to sewiki would require following Swedish copyright law and the policies of that Wikipedia. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 16:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Generally, Each Wikimedia Project can only use images (and other media files), which either:
- Have been locally uploaded to that specific project (as it appears here, the Swedish Wikipedia), or
- have been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.
- I see Cullen328 has already replied with some good information regarding which files Wikimedia Commons accepts, so I am just going to throw a link to their licensing policy into the mix. From what I can see, svwiki seems to have currently disabled file uploads alltogether (I cannot check why exactly because I don't understand Swedish), so if uploading to Commons is not an option due to the licensing restrictions, the article will have to exist without the logo for the time being.
- Hope this helps, Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 20:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Serious inconsistency between articles
As a long time donor to wikipedia, I am concerned about the strong inconsistency between the following two pages. Please review them as they are totally contradictory on many points about the influence if any of CO2 upon long term Climate. Geologic temperature record. and Climate change. The Geologic record is based on scientific observation....the Climate change article is based on Opinion and exaggerated claims. I will be glad to help edit the two and other articles on the real science if you require some assistance. Cheers Tom Gallagher Victoria Canada 24.69.141.170 (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia could always use more help from volunteer editors, so you are encouraged to help, but I would start at Project Climate Change, the Climate change Talk Page, or reach out to one of the many regular contributing editors of the article directly. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello IP user and welcome to the Tea House. I will not delve into your observations or opinions regarding the two articles which you have pointed out as I'm not an expert in such areas. However, you can edit the two articles as Wikipedia's articles are edited by people like me and you. Start by creating an account to get some benefits although you can still edit as an IP user (though there are some restrictions when editing some articles). I will post some links in your talk page which will be helpful to do so and more. Volten001 ☎ 19:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Tom, Climate change is WP:Featured Article which has gone through a rigorous peer review and summarizes 358 high quality reliable sources. So, your assertion about "Opinion and exaggerated claims" is incorrect. Cullen328 (talk) 22:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Volten001, to the person who claims above that "the Climate change article is based on Opinion and exaggerated claims", you say "you can edit the two articles as Wikipedia's articles are edited by people like me and you"; however, this person is currently not like you or me, in that they're not logged in and we are. Note the padlock mark at the top right of the article Climate change. Mouse over it, and you're told "This article is semi-protected." -- Hoary (talk) 00:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I would absolutely not be encouraging new editors to work in a topic area under discretionary sanctions, full stop. These articles are under those sanctions for a reason. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 01:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Hoary, note how I started my reply to the IP user (that I'm not an expert in those areas). Besides what I meant by 'me and you' is generally, anyone can edit Wikipedia. But I recommended that they create an account. Thanks Volten001 ☎ 07:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Tom, you say the articles are "totally contradictory on many points about the influence if any of CO2 upon long term Climate". It seems to me that they are in agreement: higher CO2 leads to rising temperatures. Can you list and give details of these many points? Maproom (talk) 08:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Extended Confirmed Help
According to my homepage, I have more than 500 edits, and my account has existed since September 28, 2022. Yet, I still don't have extended confirmed. If anyone could provide insight into why it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, DeQuavious Bingleton Fly On✈(talk) 19:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- It appears you do. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I checked and it was given 8 minutes ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Thanks for the help! DeQuavious Bingleton Fly On✈(talk) 19:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Happy editing. Also, your signature might be a bit too big. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed it :) DeQuavious Bingleton ✈(talk) 20:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @DeQuavious Bingleton Cool, see you around Wikipedia and feel free to reach out anytime. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 22:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed it :) DeQuavious Bingleton ✈(talk) 20:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Happy editing. Also, your signature might be a bit too big. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I checked and it was given 8 minutes ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Thanks for the help! DeQuavious Bingleton Fly On✈(talk) 19:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/DeQuavious_Bingleton says that you are an extended confirmed user, as does this list. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
account deleted
How do I delete this account (don't tell my brother I'm deleting it) this is a secret ok? I need to teach him a very good lesson! Damnester (talk) 00:31, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Accounts cannot be deleted. If this is not your account you need to stop using it and create your own. RudolfRed (talk) 00:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Well can it be not able to edit? The owner of it is a bad person and I wanna get it off Wikipedia 2600:1008:B122:A2F9:50CF:8FFF:FE1D:C838 (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Never mind I have an idea 2600:1008:B122:A2F9:50CF:8FFF:FE1D:C838 (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm asking this IPv6 be blocked for attempting to compromise accounts. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 01:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Never mind I have an idea 2600:1008:B122:A2F9:50CF:8FFF:FE1D:C838 (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Well can it be not able to edit? The owner of it is a bad person and I wanna get it off Wikipedia 2600:1008:B122:A2F9:50CF:8FFF:FE1D:C838 (talk) 01:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Please read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 01:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- IP blocked. The Dammester account also blocked, as appears that the account compromised because brother got access. Unclear cause of feud between brothers, as neither had edited any articles, only User and Talk pages for Damnester. David notMD (talk) 01:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- well, they got their wish, or at least the closest equivalent to that we can grant. I'm assuming the lesson they need to learn now is how to secure their account and/or mmmmmaybe not keep themselves logged on especially if they regularly share the same computer 💜 melecie talk - 10:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- IP blocked. The Dammester account also blocked, as appears that the account compromised because brother got access. Unclear cause of feud between brothers, as neither had edited any articles, only User and Talk pages for Damnester. David notMD (talk) 01:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
What was not constructive?
I have been told one or more of my alterations is/are not constructive. I altered your the United Church of Christ in Japan website. Why was I told this? 42.145.48.30 (talk) 00:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- This is the set of edits that Moops reverted. Perhaps Moops would care to comment. -- Hoary (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Accidental RB with the AntiVandal tool, which is very, very fast. Removed the warning on users page, and self reverted. TY. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 01:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
I noticed an ongoing conversation on this talk page about an artists' guilty plea to domestic violence charges a few years ago (with supporting citations); info which was later removed from the article through a talk page request by a conflict of interest editor supposedly providing his own proof (via Google Drive). I found it all confusing. My question is, was this handled properly per the editing rules? PigeonChickenFish (talk) 05:32, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- PigeonChickenFish, if that's a question to be raised anywhere, then WP:BLPN might be the place. The Teahouse certainly is not. -- Hoary (talk) 07:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
referencing help
Hi there! I'm wondering if someone is able to take a look over the references on this page and let me know if there's any glaring errors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Outpost_(gallery) The draft has been rejected on the basis of the referencing Maddie.exton (talk) 10:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maddie.exton Draft was Declined, which is not as severe as Rejected. Declined means that the Reviewer thought there was some potential. David notMD (talk) 11:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Can you identify here and at the Talk page of the draft at least three references you believe meet the criteria listed by the Declining Reviewer? David notMD (talk) 11:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Recover deleted page
Hi, we recently did some more work on a draft page in our sandbox and I think it was sent to 'publish' rather than 'submit for review'. It has since been speedily deleted without us being able to address some identified problems. How can we get it sent back into our sandbox so that we can resolve the problems with it? Thanks Tekcorps (talk) 10:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Tekcorps Hello and welcome. First, who is "we"? Accounts are strictly single person use only. Regarding your inquiry, "publish changes" should be interpreted to mean "save", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". You had successfully submitted your draft, but it was deleted as a copyright infringement and will not be restored. Wikipedia content must be original, and summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. 331dot (talk) 11:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
While the recent attempt was Speedy deleted for copyright infringement, there still exists an older draft at User:Tekcorps/sandbox/Bill Higson Memorial Cyclo-Cross which needs to be Speedy deleted for same reason, i.e., appears to be a direct copy from https://readingcyclingclub.org/in-memoriam/bill-higson/. Start over, but all in your own words - neither copied nor a close paraphrasing of the website content. David notMD (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have tagged it for speedy deletion. @Tekcorps, if you want to use the text on that site as a basis for a draft, you must do the rewrite somewhere else - not on Wikipedia. You can't copy/paste copyrighted content here and then rewrite it afterwards. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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