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Could the Lily Adams character's first name be a salute to [[Lily Tomlin]]? [[User:Hieronymus Illinensis|Hieronymus Illinensis]] ([[User talk:Hieronymus Illinensis|talk]]) 00:49, 21 October 2022 (UTC) |
Could the Lily Adams character's first name be a salute to [[Lily Tomlin]]? [[User:Hieronymus Illinensis|Hieronymus Illinensis]] ([[User talk:Hieronymus Illinensis|talk]]) 00:49, 21 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Nationality
Are her parents American? Otherwise her nationality should probably say Uzbek-American or Uzbekistani-American (depending on whether she's ethnically Uzbek).--MonsieurKovacs (talk) 01:29, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- That's not how it works. Ethnicity or place of birth is not emphasized in the lead. See WP:OPENPARA. Nymf (talk) 04:36, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- "Jewish" - she's not Uzbek in any meaningful sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.37.163.198 (talk) 23:33, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Uzbek American's not a nationality. American is a nationality. An Uzbek American is an American of Uzbek ethnicity, which Milana Vayntrub's not.
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:2340:400:A8B9:B84E:61EE:6672 (talk) 04:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
She was born in Uzbekistan, so presumably has dual citizenship. Per MOS:BLPLEAD, however, nationality is only mentioned in the lead if it is relevant to her notability. It's dubious whether her acting notability is tied to her being an Uzbek. I'd advise removing Uzbek from the lead but leave it in the body.—Bagumba (talk) 09:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Notability
Fairly high profile roles in major TV series in a major English-speaking country, and recognized work in some fairly high-profile shorts (the College Humor series of shorts) so I call b.s. on the 'notability' tag -- far more notable than an individual Pokemon card or Beanie Baby, IMO. 2600:1004:B129:A875:F57C:78BF:6138:F615 (talk) 00:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- More notable than some previous AT&T spokespersons, who also have Wikipedia entries. Before appearing in "Other Space" she was notable enough for the Adweek article "How Milana Vayntrub Became Advertising's New 'It' Girl You'll see much more of AT&T's Lily in 2015" By Tim Nudd, January 13, 2015. 68.37.5.138 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:36, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Soviet/Uzbek
We need to settle this with WP:CONSENSUS once and for all. Drive-by edits keep replacing her Uzbek origins with references to the Soviet Union. I don't deny that there is some element of truth to them, so which is it? How is this treated in other articles related to the former USSR? Elizium23 (talk) 20:00, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- Consensus exists and a drive-by dynamic IP vandal insists on trying to disrupt the article. Other biographical articles clearly refer to the SSR, e.g. Anna Kournikova, Mikhail Baryshnikov. I'm fine listing her birthplace as Tashkent, Uzbek SSR, Soviet Union, but scouring all mentions of Uzbeks or Uzbekistan from the article is false and inappropriate, and without discussion and engagement as we've seen, it's vandalism. -Kudzu1 (talk) 17:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- Uzbek. I follow Kudzu1. The USSR was a big place. In the U.S., people often say they are a Californian, a Texan, a New Yorker, a Midwesterner, or a New Englander. In the U.K., people will identify as British, Irish, or Scottish. Glrx (talk) 21:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- IPv6 2605:e000:2340:400:/64 has been blocked for 24 hours. Glrx (talk) 06:48, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm the so called "IP vandal". The main body of the article states that Milana Vayntrub was born in Uzbekistan. That's not correct. She was born in the Soviet Union. There was no Uzbekistan when she was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:2340:400:A8B9:B84E:61EE:6672 (talk) 04:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Quite the contrary, the Soviet Union was a federative state and the Uzbek SSR, also known as Uzbekistan, was a constituent republic. And that's where she was born. -Kudzu1 (talk) 08:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
The Uzbek SSR wasn't also known as Uzbekistan. It was just the Uzbek SSR. Look at any map or globe from the Soviet era. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:2340:400:FC3C:E789:EA61:E736 (talk) 04:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Untrue. To wit: Communist Party of Uzbekistan. The name wasn't just invented in 1991. Moreover, multiple sources refer to Vayntrub's country of birth as Uzbekistan, then part of the Soviet Union. -Kudzu1 (talk) 05:28, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
That may have been the name of the party. It wasn't the name of the republic. http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/77cons03.html#chap08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultrabomb (talk • contribs) 19:08, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Missing filmography
I'm about 99% certain that she played an uncredited role in "The Abominable Bride", the latest episode of the BBC Sherlock series, as Dr. Watson's housekeeper. I can't find anything to prove or disprove it, since the housekeeper was not credited at the end of the episode, nor can I find it on the internet. It was a speaking role, but a small one (about 90 seconds on screen), but memorable and enjoyable for the sarcasm and sass.
Can anyone confirm/refute? And can it be added to her filmography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4206:92B0:B170:FC0B:BF2A:5227 (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Nope. That was [Stephanie Hyam]. Dyslexic agnostic (talk) 08:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Stephanie Hyam Dyslexic agnostic (talk) 08:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Milana Vayntrub also played a supporting cast role as Anna in the 'The Clandestine', a web-series by 'Gingerparts.com' about a group of average guys who try to start a biker gang.
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Early Life and Education
In this section, there exists the following statement: "...her parents immigrated to the U.S. as refugees to escape antisemitism..." Based on what evidence? Who said that? There is NO proof for this statement, nor any citation. Says who? This is total nonsense. This statement needs to be removed or backed by REAL evidence with REAL, verifiable evidence. If I come back to this article and it's not corrected, I will delete this statement since it does not meet WP criteria for verifiable statements. This here? It's just someone's opinion with no cred at all. Come on people! 73.6.96.168 (talk) 07:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- I added one ref. There are other available cites that repeat the assertion. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 14:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Personal life
I agree. I find the depiction of women with their cleavage exposed to be insulting. So PLEASE remove the photo in this article. Ms Vaytrub's cleavage is fully exposed and I believe this photo is insulting and demeaning to women. Can we not find even one photo where her cleavage is not exposed? My wife and I are hoping that WP can do better than this. This woman deserves better treatment than this! We do not need to see her boobs to know who she is! Disgusting. 73.6.96.168 (talk) 07:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hilarious. Wikipedia is a hoot. 75.22.119.127 (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
My last attempt at a rebuttal concerning the comments about Milana's photograph, was upon hitting "Publish", instantaneously removed/flagged, and I threatened with suspension by some bot. It would appear the bot did not care for the order in which I used the same words the OG commenter did. I will try better... The photo used for Milana was not in anyway out of line with standards of any kind. The only insult to Milana is the fact the person writing about her "cleavage" stated it was "disgusting". The photo itself was one Milana posed for in public. It is not insulting nor demeaning toward women in anyway. The fact the person wrote the above comment on behalf of themselves and a wife may explain the entry's existence to begin with. As I suggested in my botified entry, the judgement of the photo is the only thing demeaning and insulting to women in this Wiki. It is not in anyway lewd, pornographic nor "adult" in nature. I admire Milana, and am proud to see another strong female presence in a male dominated occupation.>>> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:523:4FE3:DB51:C811 (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
bring up Uzbek again
I know the eds achieved some sort of consensus above on mentioning Uzbekistan, but here's a tangential concern not explicitly addressed above: why does the lede give a supposed "Uzbek Cyrillic" spelling of her name? #1, you're giving a standard Russian spelling anyway, you're not using any Uzbek Cyrillic vowels or consonants. #2, unless you can establish that her family preferentially spoke Uzbek while living in the Uz-SSR (which is doubtful for Russian Jews in Toshkent), it makes more sense to just give a standard Russian spelling for her name. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 16:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed – and furthermore, the citation is an article in Russian that mentions nothing about the Uzbek language, only noting the UzSSR as her birthplace. --Lazar Taxon (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
According to her instragram page
She pronounces her name to rhyme with "rub", not "rube". Serendipodous 16:49, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Name of Lily character
Could the Lily Adams character's first name be a salute to Lily Tomlin? Hieronymus Illinensis (talk) 00:49, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
What antisemitism did her family experience in russia?
The link to this story no longer exists. 50.45.52.59 (talk) 17:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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