Talk:Algeria

What's the Berber name of Algeria?

Not mentioned in the informbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABCDEAN (talk • contribs) 13:21, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Modern Algerian Writers

What about Mohammed Moulessehoul, aka Yasmina Khadra, who wrote the Swallows of Kabul, the Sirens of Baghdad, Wolf Dreams, and the Detective Llob series, set in Algiers? Certainly worth mentioning! 2001:5B0:4ED4:F308:C901:B4CA:A45C:FED2 (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Unprotect 140.213.33.18 (talk) 12:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Not with the history of disruption. You can request a specific edit on the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 12:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Evidence from the Ain Boucherit archeological site, in Algeria, demonstrated that the country has been inhabited since 2.4 million years ago, before any other country in the Mediterranean

Source: Sahnouni; et al. (14 December 2018). "1.9-million- and 2.4-million-year-old artifacts and stone tool–cutmarked bones from Ain Boucherit, Algeria". Science. 362 (6420): 1297–1301. Bibcode:2018Sci...362.1297S. doi:10.1126/science.aau0008. hdl:10072/383164. PMID 30498166. S2CID 54166305.

Already cited in the page twice. Can editors explain why they are removing the subject text systemicall? If no objection please use the subject-text with the indicated reference. Amar Al Djazairi (talk) 13:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Well, for one thing, your cited source says "hominims." This isn't likely speaking of modern humans, aka Homo sapiens. For another, the only mention of the Mediterranean is that this is evidence of humans (or hominims) inhabiting the "Mediterranean fringe" earlier than expected. It doesn't actually speak to anything else, including the Levant or Mesopotamia. Certainly, I would agree it is likely that hominims reached the region now known as Algeria before those other regions, but this article doesn't speak to that. What you are proposing violates WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Indeed, we have sources from other articles which suggest other similar tool use in the Middle East at similar time spans, with overlapping ranges that made it difficult to say what was "first". There are sites in Israel dating at 1.96 - 0.78 million years ago, and evidence of early human habitation in Syria dates at least as far back as 2 million years ago. We don't know that the habitation in Algeria dates to 2.4 million years ago; rather, we know it is within a range of 1.9 - 2.4 million years ago. If it is on the shorter end, then evidence for habitation in Syria would be older. We just do not know as of yet. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 14:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! The article is precise. The title is "1.9-million- and 2.4-million-year-old artifacts and stone tool–cutmarked bones from Ain Boucherit, Algeria". It's not "between" 1.9-million- and 2.4-million- years. The abstract of the article is very explicit "Here we report older stone artifacts and cutmarked bones excavated from two nearby deposits at Ain Boucherit estimated to ~1.9 Ma ago, and the older to ~2.4 Ma ago". Please, mind the "older" of the two deposits dates to ~2.4 Ma ago. Again, it's not saying a deposit is between ~1.9 Ma ago and ~2.4 Ma ago. Amar Al Djazairi (talk) 16:22, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Homo Sapiens didn't yet exist in that timeframe, and prior forms of the genus homo did not form 'countries' that could be inhabited. These would've been stone tools used by Homo habilis. And evidence of stone tools does not equal the first location inhabited. We have bones with evidence of tool cut marks that are older than this. In any case, this is a recent find, and will need more vetting before we'd use it here. If we went with any single paper, we'd say that the earliest homininds living near the Mediterranean would be Graecopithecus, a claimed find of a 7 million year old hominid jawbone in Greece. MrOllie (talk) 17:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Inconsistent Administrative District information

The information listed in the province table under Algeria#Administrative divisions differs from the information given in the Provinces of Algeria page. In some cases this is a minor transposition - e.g. Chlef is listed at 4795 km² on the Provinces page, but 4975 on this page. In other cases, the difference is larger: Adrar is 254,471 km² on the provinces page, 402,197 km² on this page, and 424,948 km² on the Adrar page. These bigger discrepancies seem to be a result of the break-up of a few provinces into smaller provinces in 2019 - I see a similar discrepancy for Tamanrasset.

Anyhow, I can't determine how to edit the table (or if it is protected @C.Fred), so I thought I would mention it here. 47.215.148.220 (talk) 17:48, 22 November 2022 (UTC)