Talk:Tower of Babel

Tower of Babylon Myth

What proof does anyone have that the Tower of Babylon is a myth? To call it a myth because it comes from the Christian Bible is absolutely ridiculous. 2600:100C:B057:A8DA:AD11:87BC:571:8CBD (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, for one thing the story involves a deity speaking to humans. So the story cannot be explained as a factual account based upon our knowledge of the physical universe. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Jewish mythology has very little to do with history. Dimadick (talk) 10:12, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Of course many religious fundamentalists believe the story is literally true, but that pretty much proves the point. They tend to be either very ignorant people incapable of grasping the logical inconsistencies of such a belief, or else frauds who pretend to believe it to exploit the simpletons. Carlstak (talk) 22:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Since Christian fundamentalism adheres to biblical literalism, the entire movement is based on pseudohistory and opposition to the scientific method. Their superstitious mindset is not a reliable source about human history. Dimadick (talk) 13:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Points can be made without public insults and condescension, yes? LovelyLillith (talk) 21:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@LovelyLillith That was three months ago and factual, no insulting or condescending. And the IP never even bothered to response, that was their only edit. Doug Weller talk 08:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

“They tend to be either very ignorant people…or else frauds” is both insulting and condescending. No matter when it was said, we can do better than that. LovelyLillith (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

From dictionary.com: "myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature." Are you seriously saying that the Tower of Babel narrative does not fit the definition? --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:22, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2022

The word, “myth” in all forms on this page to be changed to, “theory”.

Thank you JESUSISKING777 (talk) 13:58, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done No, since the Babel narrative is a textbook example of an origin myth. A theory is an explanatory model, something that may or may not be true – for instance, this article talks about different theories regarding the authorship of different parts of Genesis. But the world's languages did not come into being through any kind of calamity connected to the building of a tower. That's myth, not theory. --bonadea contributions talk 14:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:V applies to native/original names/phrases, non-Latin scripts

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 176#WP:V and foreign-language terms, non-Latin orthography in enwiki articles Elizium23 (talk) 20:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Genesis 11:7-9 NABRE:

Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that no one will understand the speech of another. So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called בָּבֶל‎,{{citation needed}} because there the LORD confused the speech of all the world. From there the LORD scattered them over all the earth.

Elizium23 (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• @S Marshall, @Phil Bridger, @Blueboar, @RoySmith, @User:Theknightwho

Elizium23 (talk) 20:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what this means. Why is there a template in the middle of this quote? What is it intended to demonstrate? GordonGlottal (talk) 20:39, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• I have already had this conversation with you, Elizium23. I do not want to repeat myself but if you have something new to say, please feel free to raise it here.—S Marshall T/C 00:44, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2022

The article states: “ The Tower of Babel (Hebrew: מִגְדַּל בָּבֶל‎, Mīgdal Bāḇel) narrative in Genesis 11:1–9 is an origin myth meant to explain why the world's peoples speak different languages.”

Comment: The Tower of Babel is not a “myth”.

Source: Genesis 11:1-9

Suggested edit to conform to history: The Tower of Babel (Hebrew: מִגְדַּל בָּבֶל‎, Mīgdal Bāḇel) narrative in Genesis 11:1–9 explains why the world's peoples speak different languages. Asellittojr (talk) 16:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

The Tower of Babel (Hebrew: מִגְדַּל בָּבֶל‎, Mīgdal Bāḇel) narrative in Genesis 11:1–9 explains why the world's peoples speak different languages. Asellittojr (talk) 16:14, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Please first read the discussion about this linked at the top of the page as requested. Doug Weller talk 16:54, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

False statements

The following statement might be true for some so-called Biblical scholars but certainly not all, which is implied here: “Biblical scholars see the Book of Genesis as mythological and not as a historical account of events.[25] Genesis is described as beginning with historicized myth and ending with mythicized history.[26]“ I have read many books and articles and statements written by Biblical scholars, none of which make any such claim. 2600:1000:B060:B6E3:E1FB:1368:2C4E:3FF7 (talk) 22:06, 30 December 2022 (UTC)