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Alok has faced criticism because of the following excerpt from a post they had made on the Facebook page of DarkMatter (an art and activist collaboration with Janani Balasubramanian):^[1]

These days the narrative is that freaky transgender people (or as they say "crossdressers") will come into your bathrooms and abuse innocent little girls.
This type of legal/carceral culture relies on is two things: the construction of morally abhorrent perpetrators/scapegoats AND the production of pure, innocent victims. In this case, as in so many cases in the past, those victims are archetypical (white)(cis) innocent little girls. We totally need to challenge the white Christian supremacist, right-wing rhetoric around trans bodies, absolutely. But we also need to seriously need to overhaul the idea that there is a perfect victim anywhere.
I believe in the radical notion that little girls, like the rest of us, are complicated people. There are no fairy tales and no princesses here. Little girls are also queer, trans, kinky, deviant, kind, mean, beautiful, ugly, tremendous, and peculiar. Your kids aren't as straight and narrow as you think they are. Like everybody else. I've been a cute little girl. And a gender nonconforming young adult. Let me tell you, everywhere along that spectrum, I've been complicated and strange.

That's a single source that may not meet WP:RS guidelines. Have any other sources? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 20:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a blog post from 2017 — "The Politically Correct Defense of Gender Identity is Concealing Much Worse", which links to a thread^[2] from 2016 on DataLounge (an Internet forum, whose core community of predominantly anonymous posters share news, opinions, gossip, personal histories, and political views from a gay and lesbian perspective). It also has a link to the apology Alok had posted afterwards which has now been deleted.

Here's an article from 2021 published in The Jewish Voice — "Twitter Blacklists Former GOP Candidate Lauren Witzke for Condemning Sexualization of Minors", which talks about Alok's statements. RT has written about it too — "Ex-Republican Senate candidate Witzke banned from Twitter after calling trans activist ‘DEMONIC’ ".

See the 'Controversy' section. Yuyutsu Ho (talk) 11:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Those are all rather partisan sources. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the controversy section as it lacked a reliable secondary source about Alok Vaid-Menon (coverage of Lauren Witzke getting banned on Twitter belongs in her article, not here), and per the biographies of living persons policy such a source is required here. WP:CSECTION and the policy on undue weight are also relevant here. GreenComputer (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ White, Blaire (2021-07-14). "Demi Lovato is working with trans activist who called little girls 'kinky'". The Post Millennial. Retrieved 2021-07-15.
^ "Homophobic trans musical group DARKMATTER publishes insane diatribe on the matter of trans women and little girls in bathrooms". the DataLounge. Retrieved 2021-07-16.

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Under "Publications" can you please add Alok's most recent self-published book:

Your Wound, My Garden (2021)

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/04/style/alok-vaid-menon-artist-nonbinary-poet-activist.html

Tamieparkersong (talk) 15:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Spencer^T•C 06:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Unless written by or quoted from Alok Vaud-Menon, please remove the word ‘perceived’ from the following: “Their artistry responds to perceived violence against trans and gender non-conforming people, calling for freedom from constraining gender norms.”

Thank you. 2001:569:5815:7500:54B7:91C:251D:4AE (talk) 13:20, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] White, Blaire (2021-07-14). "Demi Lovato is working with trans activist who called little girls 'kinky'". The Post Millennial. Retrieved 2021-07-15.

[2] "Homophobic trans musical group DARKMATTER publishes insane diatribe on the matter of trans women and little girls in bathrooms". the DataLounge. Retrieved 2021-07-16.

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