User talk:Novickas/Archive 1

Welcome!

Hello, Novickas, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Excellent job!

Hi, you are doing a truly excellent job! No need to apologize for anything (I am not even sure what are you apologizing for). We really badly need someone with native grasp of English. I myself make tons of mistakes and I would love if someone could clean it up. I set up the reference in the cuisine section. It's pretty simple once you get the hang of it. A little tip: to automatically sign your name just type 4 of these ~ (like this: ~~~~). If you need some help, just drop me a note, I will be happy to assist. I know that at first Wikipedia looks like a scary jungle of rules and policies, technical stuff and weird formating conventions. My talk page is here. See ya around! Renata 01:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Shortages?

Hello! How are you? I noticed that you edited article Lithuanians with this particular sentence - Perhaps as a result of the shortages, the Lithuanians... - AFAIK Lithuanians do not suffer from any shortages or maybe I understand something wrongly? BTW, you have very nice copy/edit skills. M.K. 13:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for very quick answer. Yes indeed in soviet era were shortages. I initially thought that you talking about present times:). in this case, yes it would be better to add a note <during soviet era> M.K. 14:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC) P.S. More convenient place to leave the comments is user’s discussion page (second button on top) instead of the main one (first button).

And maybe you also want to correct some mistakes here too>> Vilnius Castle Complex :D ?

Working on the Castle Complex ASAP! Aciu for the compliments. Novickas 16:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!! M.K.

Stubs

There are 3 ways to deal with red links:

1. create a stub and hope someone will expand it
2. point to external site
3. do nothing and leave red link to someone else to take care of
4. don't link anywhere, remove the [[ ]] and pretend there is no need for such article.

What to do really depends on your personal preferences. All are fine, but 1 and 3 are most common.

Stub is a short article that could and should be expanded. The whole long thing is on Wikipedia:Stub. Officially, there is no such thing as "sub-stub." There was a proposal a long time ago, but it died. I just like the idea of it and find it useful. It is a class of stubs that are extremely short (1-3 sentences). See also article grading scheme. Hope that answers, Renata 16:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, images. See, "Wikipedia-only" permison in not acceptable because Wikipedia is free (as in everybody can copy its content) and wants to remain such. So if you ask someone, you need to ask to release the image under GFDL, which means that anybody else can use the image for any purpose (note that "any" also includes commercial, and that stops most people). I don't have a lot of experience asking sites for permissions and I don't think there are any that granted "blanket" permissions, but what I gather is that most people don't really know copyrights and are quick to grant "Wikipedia-only." In short, it's quite messy. Easiest and cleanest way is to take pics yourself and release under some free license.

Quick tip: if you want to intent a para don't put a spece in front of

because it produces this ugly thing.

Instead, put :

Here is one,

Here are two,

And that's three

Renata 17:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

New small Copy/Edit ?

Hello! I am here again. I know it is not very nice to disturb people, but maybe you would be interested to look here too User:M.K/Laikinas? It is upcoming article in mine work space, i ma not sure is it not contain any writing errors, so I want to correct them prior launching them in proper place. M.K. 19:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Hello and welcome back from holydays, I hope you had a good time. While I have no specific task, but we have plenty of work in general :) As you know we run this project, here you could find the articles which needing copy/edit, expansion or request of new articles etc, so just pick up some articles by your taste and to work! M.K. 20:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, since you are looking for job, could you please take a look at my draft of History of Lithuania located here. I know that only about a third of the article is finished, but I would like to know that everything is fine with it. Also, if something is confusing unclear or looks irrelevant, let me know. I want the article to be as good as it gets :) Renata 00:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the question! That's because GDL reached the Black Sea after 1400, while the article deals with a bit earlier period. But I agree, it needs clarification. Anything else? Please be as picky as you can :) Renata 15:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! I am really in no hurry, there is no chance I am going to finish it up till next weekend. Thanks for the notes. I know it needs more maps, pictures, timelines and all the other nice things. But that's for later, when the text will be finished. Also the lead will have to be adjusted quite a bit once the text is finalized.

The long coins are really long. And they are not really coins. That's just something people used in trade. Here is a pic.

As for the orders, it's really tedius to name them every time... But thanks again! You vocabularly is far more advanced than mine ;) Renata 21:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

for the edits of my text 'Aukstojas Hill'. A non-native speaker seldom realises how awkward he speaks/writes :) Juozas Rimas 05:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

For the Aukštėjas/Aukštojas issue see: http://ml.lms.lt/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=70&Itemid=61&limit=11&limitstart=0

I have little quotable geographic information on Aukštojas at hand right now. Its general orientation is south-east from Vilnius but it is by no means exact by compass. At the age of perhaps 9-10 years, I visited Juozapinė Hill as a member of the group of cyclists who went from the Cathedral Square in Vilnius to Juozapinė Hill. I was assigned the task of carrying some soil from the center of Vilnius (perhaps from the hill of the Gediminas Castle, I can't remember now) in a little decorated bag and spilling it at Juozapinė. As the then-unnamed-and-uknown Aukštojas is near Juozapinė, the overall picture was boring beige hills with little prominence. I'll perhaps do a cycling trip sometime to take the picture of Aukštojas just for the record.

BTW, what part of the US are you from? I spent a couple of weeks during my honeymoon this summer in Utah. Enjoyed every moment! Also visited Las Vegas, New York and northern Arizona. We two had a great roadtrip by car all by ourselves. I was particularly amazed by the real mountains that I saw for the first time in my life spent in the Lithuanian flatlands.Juozas Rimas 21:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Migūnai forestry and Aukštojas Hill: I have no information on the forestry, just took the information from http://www.miskai.lt/index.php?id=67. As far as I understand, all forests in Lithuania are divided into forestries "girininkijos" which are in turn divided into smaller units "eiguvos".Juozas Rimas 20:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Re Renata

Hello! It is really sad, I personally do not know that to do with this issue, Renata was one of the most valuated contributors. We should hope that she will come back one day. Now we should reinforce our efforts in projects, which she left. M.K. 22:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello again, if you have free time in the future, please correct mine spelling and style errors in this article M.K. 13:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!! M.K. 13:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I left a note not working space, in case you did not noticed I want to say thanks and maybe you lend a hand on this part of the text? Thanks again. M.K. 09:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

RE:The Big Picture

I am writing a bit different article, not for general Lithuanian history . But info which I use could be used in general Lit. history and vice versa too M.K. 15:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Bigos

Sauerkraut is essential for Polish bigos. I'd expect it to be in Lithuanian bigos as well, as the "cuisine culture" is largely shared between the two nations. But let's leave it to Lithuanian editors to confirm or correct this. I'd be surprised to see bigos in "the West" (Western Europe or the US). I think its preparation recipe was actually against the EU regulations (because good bigos needs to be old and reheated many times). It's certainly a dish that you can order in any restaurant in Poland, but I've never met it in Lithuania. --Lysy^talk 18:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Lithuanian cuisine

Congratulations on Lithuanian cuisine. I've just read it and I believe your copyedit enriched it a lot. Yes, still there's room for improvement, I'm sure :-) --Lysy^talk 20:24, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hello! First about Lithuanian cuisine article, I suggest also adding kučiukai (or šlyžikai) also it is quite traditional some sort of desert :) , talking about borrowed dishes I missed – šašlykai which should be roasted on birchen woods. Besides the century (17) of potatoes, when were introduced in Lithuania, should be closely examined. About photo of honey Image:Runny hunny.jpg, sadly I do not have Lithuanian beehives, but you can request this photo in proper section of wikiprject Lithuania. About word biciuliai, yes this word is still used to describe the good friends. I remember that Valdas Adamkus received a beehives with bees from Viktor Yushchenko. About word numire – this word is most common when dealing with death, it also used to animals and humans; plus there is another word pastipo which is used to describe death of bigger animals like dogs, but this word is not used lets say for bees (personally I did not heard that anybody would say mano bites pastipo); there are few more words. Maybe numire should be translated as died? M.K. 19:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC) p.s. i have no wikistress at all :) but thanks for your concern.

I have a pleasure to eat šašlykai last weekend:). Kučiukai is small pieces of roasted dough with the poppy seed. All these small roasted pieces are put into the grinded poppy seed mass, which water. Eating during the Kučios. these are Kuciukai M.K. 20:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, did I hear a bit of nostalgia in your last sentence on mine talk? Yeah, it was in family sodas :) but with wine...this time. As I see you already figured about how to upload images; maybe these tutorials could help you in the future: Help:Contents/Images and media and as you see a bot made a notice that you forgot to add license (I fix it) , you also could familiarize with these: Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. cya M.K. 09:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello! Yes dektine is legal, no doubt about it. About images, it is quite difficult question, but I will try to find out how to deal with it, in particular case as yours. Yup, it would be great if more people could participate here! M.K. 16:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I reread and rethought issues regarding paintings and photos. And I think that then you have or own painting and by taking photo of it and uploading taken photo in wikipedia you should placed a tag some sort like PD-self with proper explanation in Source place. But this is only mine ideas, they could be wrong. M.K. 21:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism warning

Hi, thanks for your help in cleaning up vandalism.

I know how frustrating and irritating it is when people vandalise our hard work, but please, I urge you to set your anger aside and take it easy on the newcomers.

I am referring to the warning that you left on this talk page. In my opinion, the edit was not serious enough to warrant a level 4 warning after only a single prior vandalism warning. I realise that the comment could have been a personal affront to you, but please do not take it personally. There are guidelines to how to deal with vandalism and I encourage you to follow these no matter how angry or affronted you may feel.

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Once again, thanks for helping to keep Wikipedia vandalism free.

Regards LittleOldMe 10:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if I did not follow the proper protocol for warning messages.

No need to apologise, you were operating in good faith

Does this protocol apply to all cases?

No, there are exceptions. In this instance, the worst warning I would use would be:

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You can use {{subst:test4im}} ~~~~ as a first warning "for extreme cases of vandalism". The tendency would be to class extreme vandalism as multiple edits to multiple articles which are designed to evade detection. The person would subtly change names, dates, add nonsense masquerading as facts, and perhaps delete some text. This type of edit is not easy to identify as vandalism and often goes undetected. When it is discovered we tend to check all the other recent contributions for that user or IP. If multiple instances of this type of vandalism is discovered then we would post a "This is the only warning you will receive!" message since it is obvious that it was a calculated act of vandalism.

Swearing and profanity are not classed as extreme vandalism, nor is it always blatant vandalism. Often, new users will read an article with which they strongly disagree and add comments to the article itself, sometimes expressing themselves in colourful language. In these instances we might not even warn them, instead we point them to the discussion page after reverting their edits. This is the way we "assume good faith". Only if the user persists and shows that they are intent on damaging the articles do we escalate to calling the edits vandalism.

Sometimes it's hard to wait for a bot to come along and fix it.

You don't have to wait for a bot to fix it, you are encouraged to fix vandalism when you find it. The bots are far from perfect and they often miss instances of vandalism that are not immediately obvious.

Regards LittleOldMe 15:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:LITH

Probably the best place to ask for images is WP:LITH, we have special section for request. Hope it helps. M.K. 17:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not sleeping yet :) Likely Vilkmergė has a combination of two words: Vilkas (wolf) and Merga (+- girl) and we have Wolf`s girl, but the deeper linguistically research should be done to identified combinations properly. M.K. 19:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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Merge of Phantom Ranch

Great job on your merge of Phantom Ranch! I've been afraid to do it since I proposed it, and was happy to come home from work and see it done so well. Again, kudos! Notary137 02:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I got it to redirect properly now. The redirect statement redirected the article to itself. Not a problem.

I do have pictures of Phantom Ranch. I thought the existing pics in the article looked good, but I can find a couple of my best ones to compliment it. I will be down there again in January (camping), and I hope to get some good wintry-looking pictures before I freeze out there! I have read Death in Grand Canyon, though I waited some time before doing so (easily recognizing the irony of having the book in my car should something happen to me on one of my hikes, and so resisted buying it for more than a year.) However, I found it full of cautionary tales on what not to do while hiking in the Grand Canyon or other desert environments, so my apprehension was unnecessary. Notary137 19:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Funny that you mention about the picture type, see my note on the article's talk page. Since I'm going to be there in January, I can get a good photo from the Clear Creek Trail at Phantom Overlook when there is no foliage, so you can see all the buildings. Now I can't wait! Notary137 19:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Topo maps

I can add the link. I'll test it on a page later tonight (Hermit Trail) and see if it works. Notary137 17:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

• Added something neat to Hermit Trail. There was a template to use, {{geoscale-US-mountain}} which links to TopoZone, Google Maps, TerraServer, etc. Scale for TopoZone is not ideal for trails, so I'm thinking of adding a Template:geolinks-US-trails, changing the sacle to what is used on your link on Phantom Ranch. It looks like a rainy day tomorrow in Las Vegas, so I just might get it done! Notary137 00:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Created the template {{geolinks-US-trails}}, I mostly changed things like map size and scale. I already applied it to Hermit Trail and will move forward with others. We're getting a lot of rain down here this morning... Notary137 16:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Another work

Hello! Could you take a look here and help with mine spelling? M.K. 21:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

With pleasure. Novickas 23:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

About images, some answers you can find already in image caps. M.K. 09:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I left few comments here (at the bottom)please take a look. M.K. 13:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Ergh...?

You are not thinking of leaving, are you? I noticed you removed yourself from the Portal:Lithuania guestbook... Wonder why and if you are ok... Renata 23:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, maybe not entirely but thanks for your concern. I can see that I've been spoiled by my boss, husband, friends, and children, to the point where it's a shock to not get cooperation, thanks, hugs, etc. These things are not forthcoming in Wikipedia - it's just not a very warm place. There are other paths to "žmonių gėrybei" that are probably better suited to me. But planning to finish up a few more items. Sincerely, Novickas 16:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Agh, yeah, I know what you are talking about. Yes, WP is a very cold and lonely place. If you work hard and write good articles, no one will thank or even notice you. If you mess up something, you will be screemed at. If you troll and vandalize, you will get all the attention you want. Anyhow, it was good to have you here, thanks for all your help, and I hope "neminėsit blogu žodžiu." A month ago I would have said: "Oh no! Don't go, you are needed here." Today I say: "Run! Before it's not too late." Renata 17:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Please, don`t leave! M.K. 19:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks guys. If you want me to edit something I would be happy to do so. Novickas 15:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

It's ok to chat. I need to do that more often myself :) I printed out the Jungle, maybe I'll read it - first few pages seem hard to follow though. I found about it like a year ago when one of my classmates was studying it for the English class. I was so surprised! Somehow no one talks about it in Lithuania.

On evolution. You should have met me before I came to the U.S. I am completely new person now. On WP, you should have met me before the PL-LT wars started. I was a lot friendlier and nicer back then. Now I feel like a grumpy old lady :) WP is a very hostile place to live in. So many strangers, so many rude people, so many upset people. Add different cultures, education, and opinions, mix in nationalities and bake it in the oven of very limited communication (no face-to-face interaction) and sprinkle with personal issues and you'll get a nice pie called WP community. But for whatever reason (still don't understand myself) that pie is very addictive...

A bright future, you say? Hm, that'd be good. Can I order two to go and do you accept credit cards? :) I don't really know how you came to that conclusion, but hey, thanks. Renata 23:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Mind if I pop in here, uninvited ? About the WP community and POV conflicts. It's an eye-opener for me, but you really need a good perspective to appreciate this. After the initial shock, you start to realize, that the conflicting points of view can be often equally justified. One can learn a lot more than from books, all the TV/news crap or even the educated chats with your friends. One has only to often remind oneself that the backgrounds and cultures are different and people can act differently. If only there were less aggression ... Cheers. --Lysy^talk 18:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Maps

If you have in mind maps such as image:LietuvaVilnius.png, then they were made by administrator of Lithuanian Wikipedia, User:Knutux. I guees you can ask him on his Lithuanian talk. Renata 14:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

That's why I said use the Lithuanian talk Renata 14:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, would you mind shooting me an email? Simply attach @gmail.com to my username (which is Renata3). I have one real life project going on in Chicago and maybe you could offer some tips how to proceed. Renata 22:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

A request

Hello,

if you remember, we have had some brief communication on Lithuanian geography. I also noticed you have in some cases proof-read wiki articles related to Lithuania. When you have some spare time, could you take a look at the page on Žirmūnai, my native borough in Vilnius? I co-authored it to make it the most extensive article on Vilnius' boroughs. I know it's weird the article on the Old Town is now smaller :)

The page is pretty clean of spelling mistakes, but I bet there are tons of incorrect articles ;) Juozas Rimas 20:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

By the way, regarding the Žirmūnai article, is there a more suitable word in English instead of "ferry" to convey the idea of the ships cruising in the small Neris River. You can see the ship in one of the photos on the page. "Ferry" sounds like a huge bulky barge which transports people and cars over a big body of water, whereas the ships in Neris are old, relatively small Soviet "cruise" river ships that go to and fro in the river with passengers only. I used the term "motor ship" but I bet it sounded weird, perhaps like jet-ski? :)

Hello! When you have some spare time, please drop by the Žirmūnai article which has been consirably supplemented and could benefit gretaly from your English-check. ;) Juozas Rimas 16:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the check of Žirmūnai! I have edited some places where the meaning was distorted a bit. I've also had added a new paragraph on an obscure Soviet-time pontoon-bridge tragedy. Juozas Rimas 07:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello! After some more expansion, we are approaching satiation with the Žirmūnai :) I've also hashed up a short lead section. Your copy-edit would be very welcome, especially for the lead. Juozas Rimas 12:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, you did a great job on the Žirmūnai article! However, I had to remove the bit from the Age Cohorts which implied that Russians live shorter in Lithuania than Lithuanians - do we have such information? (WHO statistics are on Russia, as a country). I'm also not sure about the attractiveness of Žirmūnai to retirees. From my everyday observations, the high average age comes due to the people who came to live here in the 1960s being very settled. But today, when appartments in Žirmūnai are expensive, many retirees actually sell their appartments and go to a cheaper place to live. What do you think? Juozas Rimas 16:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, the crime rates are even lower now (2006 data) - a 24-percent decline. I'll add the info tomorrow, together with the crime types breakdown. Juozas Rimas 22:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, when you have time, for the sake of completeness, you could return the interesting figures on the crime rates in the US and Canada to Žirmūnai article. I have just updated the crime statistics, fixing my mistakes. The rate is not 20, but close to 50... I hope I'm not mistaken again. I'm not strong at maths :) Make sure you adjust the US figures down to "per 1,000 residents", because I saw they were given on the "per 100,000 residents" scale. Juozas Rimas 17:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Your note

Argh, sorry for getting back so late. I am really not sure what you are talking about with those south-noth arrows. I don't think I have seen them. You should take screenshot next time, I would be able to tell much more. As for game - there was a similar game somewhere on WP, long ago, can't find a link. In short, some people just have way too much time on their hands. Luckily some people use it in some productive way (like writing Wikipedia ) Renata 04:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Rustic architecture

Wow, National Park Service Rustic looks great! Nice use of images, too. Happy to remove the cleanup tag :) --Bookgrrl 00:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Answers

Hello! Some time pasted from your last note, it is good to see that you still with us. Sadly, but there is no public domain Governmental sites in Lithuania, IFAIK. But it depends on which information you need to access from them; they could hold some info which is not protected by copyright. Regarding www.vilnius.lt - it works fine with my tools. Firstly I suggest you to press ctr (and) F5. Sometimes it helps. It is also usefully to have new version of browser, did you tried new Internet Explorer 7? (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx). Try these messures. Cya. M.K. 23:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Postmodern architecture

Hey Novickas, I noticed the references, links, and rewording you just added to this article and wanted to say thanks. I've been wanting to improve that article myself, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Again thanks, DVD+ R/W 14:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Symbols

Hi, I don't have much time to work on the article, but I think it is a pretty good idea, just needs A LOT of work. Maybe I will find few minutes over the weekend. I am just not sure about the Kukutis... I don't think he is that famous to qualify as a national symbol. BTW, great photo of Rupintojelis! :) Renata 15:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry for delay to answering to your question and request I will take deep look at article tomorrow eee...today but only in morning  :) I am veeeery busy these days, so mine participation is a bit halted now. Cya soon! M.K. 01:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello again! I read your article and have few suggestion: firstly it would be worth to note about six angle cross, for instance it is used it Order of Vytis: Image:Cross_of_Vytis.jpg, also six angle cross is the symbol of Lithuanian military. In text it is mentioned that Vytis is used and in coins, maybe it worth to place a picture of these coins. Maybe also references should be harmonized a bit, but this is not very important. M.K. 16:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Vilnius.lt

Hi, sorry for late reply and not being able to work on the symbols. I have tons of things to do in real tife.... Vilnius.lt loads perfectly fine. It's slow, but works. I don't have a clue what might be wrong with your computer... Renata 16:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Works on Vilnius article had begun please participate!M.K. 18:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Article size

No, there is no way to count the characters. That message is just a notice that the article might be a bit too long. There is this ancient limit of 32kb that gets ignored all the time, but if the page gets way too long (like 100+kb) then it might be a problem with GA of FA nomination. Renata 20:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, please edit Vilnius in here because no one knows how long it's gonna take to bring Vilnius to a more presentable format and no one wants the world to see the dirty kitchen :)

BTW, I was not taking exams. I was just busy with life. But yesterday was my last day of school! 100 gramu is in order :) Renata 02:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Flag of Lithuania

I put in most of the suggestions you posted at this articles talk page. Thanks again. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 01:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Novickas

Tautiška giesmė

As an answer to your request of an audio recording on the portal. You can find one here [1] (not sure if the quality is good enough for you). From the same site I got the french traduction I used to update fr:Tautiška giesmė and was planning to add the audio file. But I am a newby with wikipedia and I still didn't investigate how to create the ogg file. I've already asked and got authorisation from the owner of the blog Gilles/Dzilis to use the audio file. If you add the anthem to wikicommon please let me knowJmnil 10:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

History of Lithuania (1219-1295)

Hello, I hope you are having a great time off Wikipedia and that your New Year will be properous and merry. I have finished the history article (finally!) and it needs your copy-edits :) So if you get a chance some time... Thanks! Renata 12:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hello! Long time ago! i see you editing again. Would you like to copy edit this one? :) Please. M.K. 00:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for copy edit! M.K. 00:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, great job

Thank you for Adolfas Valeška and Kaunas botanical garden, they're nice addition to this international project.--Lokyz 20:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Lituanica etc

Hello, 2 or 3 signatories a day? Wow, you are ambitious :) If seriously, I have the book at home (bought through eBay - you can find interesting stuff there). But carrying all that home, wow, you are ambitious ;) So I don't have any special requests...

As for your technical questions, Kaunas botanical garden needs to be moved/renamed. Go to the article and click on the move tab (between "history" and "watch" tabs atop of an article), type in a new name (this time with the capitals) and click ok. As for Kęstutis Nakas you need to create a redirect. Go to Kestutis Nakas and type in #REDIRECT[[Kęstutis Nakas]]. Note that # is neccesary; if you change what's in between the brackets, it will redirect to a different page. Click save, and you are done. Lesson finished :) Renata 02:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I've heard that you're going to fill all the Signees of act of independance, so please, do not create article on Jonas Vileišis - I recently began translation on him from lt wikipedia, and haven't finshed yet. And of course your copyedit will be appreciated:) --Lokyz 09:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

WOW! It you be very nice to see signatories completed! When you have time could you please copy edit a new section Vilnius_Castle_Complex#Complex_today? I finally managed to complete the article and only my poor spelling left now in new paragraph :) Thanks for encourage on DYK tooM.K. 12:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC) A! I will wait, no need to rush! M.K. 13:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your copy edits on castles!!! Your doing superb job with signatories too! Thanks for your work. M.K. 00:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, btw, could you expand Mykolas Biržiška, Pranas Dovydaitis and Stanislovas Narutavičius a bit. I think they deserve that.Lokyz 17:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Miscellaneous January 26, 2007

You are welcome! I look at the image and as I understand the tag for "educational purposes" is not valid any more, I suggest to ask Renata for more, she is THE admin :) . Thanks for the Act link it will be very handy in article. My too did not find proper translation of Act in EN, yet. Still searching. M.K. 16:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Before you ask, yes, educational and non-profit is not good enough, because it's not free enough :) Renata 17:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I FOUND IT !!!! :D M.K. 16:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)p.s. still working version but you can take a look here

...and the original texts should go to Wikisource. (Me feels like a policeman :P) Renata 17:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

No, you are big mama, remember? LOL. Btw, could you place original text in Wikisource? Novickas, I nominated article about horses for DYK, i hope you do not mind. M.K. 18:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry! It's not a mess, it's a bunch of nice articles! :) Renata 21:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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If you have any questions please ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you. —Pilotguy (ptt) 17:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Note: I amended the license to United Nations Public Domain. Novickas 22:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Gratitude

I would like to express sincere gratitude to your dedication working on articles; and signatories are complete by your effort too. So once again thanks for your input. When you have time and good mood you always welcome to copy edit my articles such as this. Cya, M.K. 11:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Tenses

Even though you did not ask me, "būna" is a present tense. Būti (infinitive) - būna (present) - buvo and būdavo (past) - bus (future). Is just that people usually say "yra" is something is present right here and right now. I think it's similar to English present tense in "festivals happen every now and then." Renata 01:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey

No need to blackmail bribe me, I've told allready I'm not leaving, just reconsidering a few things. And yes, please, those articles need to be created:)--Lokyz 17:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

And sorry or my rough tone, I do apreciate your help very much, sincere THANK YOU! (Is the bribe suggestion still available?)--Lokyz 18:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, like good old Al':)--Lokyz 20:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Not sure which articles we've been talking about, but as for me I'd be very happy if Vytautas Kavolis artcle would be created.--Lokyz 09:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Lithuanian Heavy Draught, was selected for DYK!

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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your first DYK!! Knowing your recent activities it would not be last one :) M.K. 22:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks again Novicas and MK was the kind nominator. Do feel free to self nominate in the future.Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 04:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

re:Kaunas F.

Thanks for the copy edit! Could you say exactly which wording is not very clear? Thanks again, M.K. 15:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Labas rytas!!!!Thanks for encouragement! About sentence in question, maybe I translated badly but this is original:

Gynybos tikslais tvirtovė buvo suskirstyta į keturis sektorius: 1-asis sektorius tęsėsi nuo kairiojo Nemuno kranto ties Pypliais iki Jiesios upės. Jam priklausė pirmieji trys fortai, 2-asis sektorius buvo nuo Jiesios upės iki kairiojo Nemuno kranto prieš Pažaislio vienuolyną su IV -tuoju ir V -tuoju fortais. Trečias sektorius užėmė plotą nuo dešiniojo iki kairiojo Nemuno krantų su VI-tuoju ir VII-tuoju fortais. Ketvirtasis sektorius tęsėsi nuo dešiniojo Neries kranto ir kairiojo Nemuno kranto. Jam priklausė VIII-tasis ir IX-tasis. Hope it would help. Cheers, M.K. 16:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I wish you success in studying the map, if you encounter some problems please do not hesitate to ask. M.K. 16:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No need to rush:) But yeah I will move it soon. BTW, maybe you will have suggestions for this one too (it is not finished yet); left some remarks about this on Renata's talk page. M.K. 17:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The article about Act of 16th is not deserve to be copy edited yet, because it is in miserable state; many formulations and paragraph's probably will be divided merged etc. Waiting for suggestions from Renata, you and others to proceed. M.K. 22:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Names

Sounds good, I don't there is anything else that could be done (adding some famous people with that name? origin?). Anything in comparison to current state sounds good :) I just posted on the project in case someone has some ideas and time to salvage it. Renata 18:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

About Act of 16th

I still waiting from all contributors some sort of feedback of article structure etc, of course if you are not busy you can proceed with copy edits; but the edition is not final so it could result another copy edit in near future. M.K. 17:38, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Renata delivered nice adjustments to article, so probably copy edit would be nice addition too. If you have time please do this. M.K. 14:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you provide sources for your additional part? M.K. 18:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes please, we need in-line refs. M.K. 18:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh no! No need to be sorry! I only tried to make it a bit more compact and yes please make a copy edit of the new part edition. M.K. 18:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Mečislovas Reinys

Hello, I will try to find some info in upcoming days. Cya, M.K. 09:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I noticed that you placed an full e-mail, such action could arrack additional spam, I suggest you to writhe it in different format, like: novickas_iota [At] yahoo.com or similar.M.K. 10:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I expanded the article a bit, your copy edit skills are needed. M.K.

Vilnius Conference

Hello, first of, great work all around! You were done with signatories way ahead of the schedule! :) Second, since you are doing such a superb job, could you please (sugar-coated-sprinkled-with-cherries please) create Vilnius Conference article? I wanted to do that this weekend but the act draft took too long and I got some flu or something... Thank you! Renata 05:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Great! And here is your kugelis! :P Thank you very very much. I plan (ha!) to work on it on Sunday... Renata 12:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

My flu got much better, but my work much worse :( I hope you are doing better. Sorry to sneak into conversations, but I do have a source on Vilnius Conference and flag issues and I was just waiting for some free time to post it up. Renata 17:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. There is no much of snow storm where I live, so it's not that bad. If you are going to the library, could look for something about Vilnius Castles for MK? I really doubt you'll find something very useful, but you have a tallent to dig out stuff ;) The article really lacks info on the Crooked castle... Renata 12:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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Nice article! M.K. 10:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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DYK

On 15 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Act of Independence of Lithuania, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Statehood Day Award

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  From your fellow wiki-friends and neighbors...
• ... for tireless and heroic fight against the red links and me do not speaking englich...
  ... for tireless and heroic fight against the red links and me do not speaking englich...
• 
  ... comes this potato-heart award which can be used (1) to cook kugelis; (2) as a late Valentine's gift in LT-style; (3) to distil the mighty 100 gramu; (4) to plant during the bulviasodis and make more potatos; (5) just another useless piece of garbage lying around with some sort of sentimental value.

• M.K. 21:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
• Lokyz 21:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
• Renata 21:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thanks, peeps. That really made my day. Usage #5 is what I'm thinking, it's printing out and it will probably sit on top of the piano for years to come. It's been great working with all of you. Novickas 11:47, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

You deserved this, I am happy that you like it :) Cheers, M.K. 12:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

re:nalesnykai

I do not know the exact recipe, although the one presented by you seems most probable.--Lokyz 12:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: Boll Weevil Eradication Program

Hi Novickas,

I actually didn't mean to remove that entry and I'm really sorry about that. I've re-added it to the list of suggestions and it should be used the next time DYK is refreshed.--Carabinieri 15:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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Article Lithuanian nationality law

Thanks for the article Lithuanian nationality law. Unfortunately the law isn't really clear on the matter of possibility or restriction to get dual nationality. I heard also that the law is again been discussed in the seima thus the application of the existing one is put on hold. Perhaps you can confirm that. I should say that I have a direct interest here as we want to get the Lithuanian citizenship for our daughter who get already the French one at birth. Why did you remove the Latin expression Jus sanguinis? Is there restriction on the use of such common Latin sentence in WK? For me at least Jus sanguinis is much more explicit (cf french expression droit du sang) Jmnil 11:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Big mamma is here again :) In short, original texts do not belong on WP articles, they belong on Wikisource (if they are in the public domain). WP articles should be about that text but not the text itself. So the law has to go... Renata 12:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Lithuanian laws are in public domain because the copyright law says they are inelegible for copyright. Renata 14:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

C/E

Hello, hope all is well. This poor child begs for your fine copy-editing skills (whenever the Oscars are finished :P) Renata 04:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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Thanks for putting Lithuania on the main page! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Unsuccessful RFA

I'm truly sorry to find that intellectual honesty and honor are not concepts that Wikipedia recognizes.[2] However, since these concepts are alive and well in universities, research institutions, the US military, and elsewhere, I have faith that they will eventually be recognized here as well. Novickas 14:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The sooner you understand how the reasoning of those who were the objects of your RFA operates, the less dissapointed you will be. If J.L. had moved to Kaunas in the 1920's, had composed the Lithuanian National Anthem, and had written his Last Will and Testament in prefect Lithuanian, you still would have been told he was born in Poland and was Polish. Now he can rest in peace in the English Wikipedia as being born in "Poland" (at the time Russia) and is both a Pole and a "Russian" to boot. But as always, during these discussions you can count on a few pearls being relayed during their arguments. Here are two of my favorites: the first from the response at your RFA, where the commentator "not wanting to create too much bad blood between Polish and Lithuanian editors" says speaking of the Lithuanian wikicommunity ....that it seems to be a tad touchy when it comes to Polish-Lithuanian relations and people born in Vilna in the times when the town was not yet a part of Lithuania... Not yet a part of Lithuania? Saving the best for last, you might remember this one from the J.L. talk page...I'm beginning to think that the small Lithuanian club on Wikipedia has some serious problem with understanding that not everyone who was ever born in Poland is Lithuanian by default. I hope I got you to smile, it got me to laugh. Oh, and BTW thanks for giving us all an insight on how they count google hits too. Dr. Dan 16:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, like Bertie Wooster, I "emitted a hollow l.", if that counts. Novickas 17:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Almost forgot, Happy International Woman's Day to you, and any of my friends on Wikipedia who catch this tidbit. And although one of your "opponents" in the RFA pretended to not be aware of your gender (after months of your participation on WP, and a nice "User Page" pretty much "giving it up" ), I'll assume good faith and chalk it up to his same inability to distinguish that Vilnius is not in Poland. I'd wish them both a "Happy Woman's Day" too, but they'd probably whine that I'm being uncivil to them and their parents again. Dr. Dan 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read WP:DR. RfArb should be the last, not the first, attempt to resolve a dispute.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  22:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Please sign your messages

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