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*:::I'm an idiot. I read it wrong 💀 Sincerely, [[User:Key of G Minor|Key of G Minor]]. <sup>Tools:</sup> ([[User talk:Key of G Minor|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Key of G Minor|contribs]]) 18:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
*:::I'm an idiot. I read it wrong 💀 Sincerely, [[User:Key of G Minor|Key of G Minor]]. <sup>Tools:</sup> ([[User talk:Key of G Minor|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Key of G Minor|contribs]]) 18:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
*::::It happens. The real lesson here is you really shouldn't add tags like {{tl|nacmt}} to other users' comments. If you feel someone's actually misrepresenting themself as an admin, that's one thing, but generally it's up to an individual user whether they wish to note what perms they do or don't have. (P.S. That userbox rotates out at random, so [[User:Tamzin/userboxen/User non-admin someday|here]]'s what we're referring to for others' context.) <span style="font-family:courier"> -- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup class="nowrap">&#91;[[User talk:Tamzin|<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>]]&#93;</sup> (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
*::::It happens. The real lesson here is you really shouldn't add tags like {{tl|nacmt}} to other users' comments. If you feel someone's actually misrepresenting themself as an admin, that's one thing, but generally it's up to an individual user whether they wish to note what perms they do or don't have. (P.S. That userbox rotates out at random, so [[User:Tamzin/userboxen/User non-admin someday|here]]'s what we're referring to for others' context.) <span style="font-family:courier"> -- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup class="nowrap">&#91;[[User talk:Tamzin|<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>]]&#93;</sup> (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 18:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
*:Also, just so you know, I would absolutely be fine with closing this and making it an ArbCom appeal. Sincerely, [[User:Key of G Minor|Key of G Minor]]. <sup>Tools:</sup> ([[User talk:Key of G Minor|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Key of G Minor|contribs]]) 00:01, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


===Block evasion accusation===
===Block evasion accusation===

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June 2023

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Sweet Home Alabama, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 04:58, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Key of G Minor. I just wanted to inform you that your vote in the Requested Move discussion at Talk:2023 Titan submersible incident is in the wrong section. I recommend that you move it to the 'Discussion after debris were found' section and amend it, if needed. Ping me if you have any questions. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:32, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disregard, discussion was closed while I was posting this. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:57, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2023

Information icon Hello, I'm FlightTime. Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Welcome to the Jungle even if you provide a/some source(s), you'll still need to start a discussion on the article talk page to allow editors who regular watch that page a chance to discuss the reliability of the source(s) you provided. One reason is, genre sources can easily be considered an opinion and not fact. Genre's are a touchy subject here on Wikipedia and without discussion/consensus, regardless of your source(s), your addition or removal will most likely be reverted. Your edit has been reverted and archived in the page history for now.

Unsourced genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive.

Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at Live and Let Die (song), you may be blocked from editing. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at You Could Be Mine. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They're listed as a hard rock band on their page. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:27, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter, if you want to change genres, you need to discuss them first, on the article talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. That's wrong. This isn't against consensus, they're literally listed as a hard rock band. You're the one editing without consensus. Look at Guns N’ Roses. It says they're hard rock. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The band is, but we're talking about albums. A band listed as punk can release a hard rock album. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they can. But they are listed as hard rock. The genre of the album doesn't matter, their lead listing does. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You said it yourself:

(talk page stalker) Concerning this exchange, Key of G Minor is correct. Lynyrd Skynyrd are listed as a Rock band, so any page referring to the band, it's listed as Rock. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:53, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 22:19, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2023

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Bbb23 (talk) 17:53, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Key of G Minor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Admin didn't explain why I was blocked, but I assume it was my tagging pages for speedy deletion. said that they blocked me because "WP:A3 does not apply to articles with infoboxes", but these were good faith RSDs that I believe were correct. In this case, a warning would have been much more suitable. This was a completely inappropriate action on Bbb23's part and should be reversed. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 17:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

 Confirmed sockpuppetry to which WP:CLEANSTART does not apply. Yamla (talk) 18:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You returned to the same articles and edited them in the same manner as your prior account. Essentially, this was clearly a prohibited attempt to evade scrutiny. WP:CLEANSTART goes into more details. --Yamla (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't evading scrutiny - I wasn't under any. I didn't disruptive edit then and don't now. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 18:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Multiple editors have found your edits to be disruptive. --Yamla (talk) 18:28, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Who? Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 18:35, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't remember anything like that happening Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 18:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A quick look shows FlightTime, Bbb23, Lennart97, tgeorgescu. I do want to be clear, I think you are an enthusiastic editor and have real potential. However, you aren't currently showing signs of understanding what you are doing incorrectly. This will be my last response. You are, of course, free to make a new unblock request. For any future reviewing admins, note that Bbb23 was the original blocking admin. As far as my block is concerned, you are free to ignore the checkuser part of it and just review it as a regular block. --Yamla (talk) 18:40, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock requests

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Key of G Minor (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I was blocked because I "abused" multiple accounts. I haven't used the old one in 2 months and don't plan to. I have an alt account to use on less secure wifi. I have an even older account that I forgot the password to. I guess I didn't understand the clean slate policy, and I apologize for that. I was dumb. I was earlier blocked for requesting speedy deletion on numerous articles, per A3, which I also didn't understand. I apologize for that. I'm not necessarily asking to be unblocked, but I don't think I should be indef blocked. Give me ~a week to read up on all the policies and I promise to not do anything like that again. I'm a good faith editor 100% of the time, and I am here to build an encyclopedia. If not, that's fine. However, Yamla, said

I think you are an enthusiastic editor and have real potential. However, you aren't currently showing signs of understanding what you are doing incorrectly.

I believe if my block is reduced, I can learn. Hell, I'll even take an SO. It was an honest mistake a never plan on doing again. I have read WP:SOCKBLOCK, so I understand I should put this on User talk:AugustusAudax, that account is, once again, unused. I'll answer any questions you have. Thank you, and I'm incredibly sorry. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:45, 6 July 2023 (UTC) Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:45, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I'm perplexed by this request. Below, and above, you list AugustusAudax as an 'unused' account - but that account has almost a thousand edits. I'm not saying that you necessarily need to wait six months for SO to kick in, but you are going to have to explain yourself a bit better. Why did you use multiple accounts in this way? Why are you saying that AugustusAudax was unused? Try again. Girth Summit (blether) 19:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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This user's unblock request is on hold because the reviewer is waiting for a comment by the blocking administrator.

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Blocking administrator: Bbb23 (talk)

Reviewing administrator: Well, I'm not opposed to unblocking, though I'd like to hear if Yamla, Bbb23, and Girth Summit are pleased with the way this request is phrased. I think it addresses the salient points; I also think that many of the troubling edits are related to musical genre, and perhaps it would be wise to stay away from that--a thing we could enforce with a topic ban for six months, for instance. Drmies (talk) 20:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request reason:

Hello, I'm Key of G Minor. I was blocked because I abused multiple accounts. The accounts in question are: User:AugustusAudax, User:Key of G Minor, User:Key of B-flat major and User:JamesTheBold. But there are reasons for these accounts, which I will list respectively:
  • To contribute to Wikipedia
  • Because I got bored of my old account (idk why I do this, I just like to make accounts on things, abandon them, then make new ones)
  • To use on unsecure wifi
  • I forgot the password
I guess I didn't read the clean slate policy good enough, and I apologize. User:Yamla said

I do want to be clear, I think you are an enthusiastic editor and have real potential. However, you aren't currently showing signs of understanding what you are doing incorrectly.

However, if I'm unblocked, I believe I can learn what I'm doing wrong and continue to contribute constructively. In the time I've been blocked, I've noticed a large amount of corrections I should make. I've tried to edit them, only to remember I was blocked. I'm sorry for being an idiot and want to continue constructively editing. I can and will answer any questions. Some questions I have already been asked include:
  • Q: Why did you use multiple accounts in this way?
  • A: I just get bored of accounts on various things, abandon them, then make new ones. I don't know why I do this. ADHD?
  • Q: Below, and above, you list AugustusAudax as an 'unused' account - but that account has almost a thousand edits. Why are you saying that AugustusAudax was unused?
  • A: I want to clarify that I meant that I do not currently use it or plan to ever use it again.
Once again, I apologize, and hope I can be unblocked. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 20:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator use only:

After the blocking administrator has left a comment, do one of the following:

If you decline the unblock request, replace this template with the following, substituting {{subst:Decline reason here}} with any specific rationale. If you do not edit the text after "decline=", a default reason why the request was declined will be inserted.

{{unblock reviewed|1=Hello, I'm Key of G Minor. I was blocked because I abused multiple accounts. The accounts in question are: User:AugustusAudax, User:Key of G Minor, User:Key of B-flat major and User:JamesTheBold. But there are reasons for these accounts, which I will list respectively:
  • To contribute to Wikipedia
  • Because I got bored of my old account (idk why I do this, I just like to make accounts on things, abandon them, then make new ones)
  • To use on unsecure wifi
  • I forgot the password
I guess I didn't read the clean slate policy good enough, and I apologize. User:Yamla said

I do want to be clear, I think you are an enthusiastic editor and have real potential. However, you aren't currently showing signs of understanding what you are doing incorrectly.

However, if I'm unblocked, I believe I can learn what I'm doing wrong and continue to contribute constructively. In the time I've been blocked, I've noticed a large amount of corrections I should make. I've tried to edit them, only to remember I was blocked. I'm sorry for being an idiot and want to continue constructively editing. I can and will answer any questions. Some questions I have already been asked include:
  • Q: Why did you use multiple accounts in this way?
  • A: I just get bored of accounts on various things, abandon them, then make new ones. I don't know why I do this. ADHD?
  • Q: Below, and above, you list AugustusAudax as an 'unused' account - but that account has almost a thousand edits. Why are you saying that AugustusAudax was unused?
  • A: I want to clarify that I meant that I do not currently use it or plan to ever use it again.

Once again, I apologize, and hope I can be unblocked. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 20:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)|decline={{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}[reply]

If you accept the unblock request, replace this template with the following, substituting Accept reason here with your rationale:

{{unblock reviewed|1=Hello, I'm Key of G Minor. I was blocked because I abused multiple accounts. The accounts in question are: User:AugustusAudax, User:Key of G Minor, User:Key of B-flat major and User:JamesTheBold. But there are reasons for these accounts, which I will list respectively:
  • To contribute to Wikipedia
  • Because I got bored of my old account (idk why I do this, I just like to make accounts on things, abandon them, then make new ones)
  • To use on unsecure wifi
  • I forgot the password
I guess I didn't read the clean slate policy good enough, and I apologize. User:Yamla said

I do want to be clear, I think you are an enthusiastic editor and have real potential. However, you aren't currently showing signs of understanding what you are doing incorrectly.

However, if I'm unblocked, I believe I can learn what I'm doing wrong and continue to contribute constructively. In the time I've been blocked, I've noticed a large amount of corrections I should make. I've tried to edit them, only to remember I was blocked. I'm sorry for being an idiot and want to continue constructively editing. I can and will answer any questions. Some questions I have already been asked include:
  • Q: Why did you use multiple accounts in this way?
  • A: I just get bored of accounts on various things, abandon them, then make new ones. I don't know why I do this. ADHD?
  • Q: Below, and above, you list AugustusAudax as an 'unused' account - but that account has almost a thousand edits. Why are you saying that AugustusAudax was unused?
  • A: I want to clarify that I meant that I do not currently use it or plan to ever use it again.

Once again, I apologize, and hope I can be unblocked. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 20:13, 11 July 2023 (UTC)|accept=Accept reason here ~~~~}}[reply]

Not fully back yet. And for the record, more vacations planned. :) I'm... mostly ambivalent here. I think if an unblock is to happen, a topic ban should be imposed. I also think a single-account restriction would be a good idea. I think these lead to the best chance of success in the immediate future. To be clear, this is mostly Bbb23's block and I'm offering suggestions, not requirements-from-the-blocking-admin. Anyone lifting this block with whatever terms they think appropriate will see no objection from me. --Yamla (talk) 21:40, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) My conditions if I were an admin would be a topic ban on music genres for 6 months, a permanent cease-and-desist on the use of JamesTheBold and AugustusAudax, using Key of G minor as the main account, and the only exception being Key of B Flat Major as a public WiFi/unsecure connection account, as that is allowed by policy per WP:PUBLICSOCK provided that the account connections are clearly stated on the userpage. Any disruptive edits, especially from the public WiFi alt, would result in a block. I’m not opposed to a SO either, but the above would constitute my conditions for a non-SO immediate return to editing. DrewieStewie (talk) 14:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds reasonable - and KoBFM was disclosed as a pubsock front right and center. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 15:33, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AND AA was never planned to be used again, and I forgot the password to JTB. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 15:43, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would accept an SO. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 21:50, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Block evasion accusation

 Confirmed block evasion as Rheighway. I suggest that precludes any unblock. --Yamla (talk) 18:57, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's not block evasion. That's my grandpa. He's been editing since 201X. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 18:59, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My name is James, his is Robert. Thus User:JamesTheBold and User:Rheighway. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 19:01, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Think about it. (Redacted) Why would I have an 11 year old account (Redacted), that I remember the password to, and create a new account? Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 19:12, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And why would I bring attention to myself by asking for an unblock? Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 19:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please just assume good faith and believe me when I say that's not me. I would've had to make that account when I was 3. Again, I apologize for my idiocy. But my grandpa (who has completely different interests than me) is being caught in the crossfire. You know that I know that doing something like that would completely ruin my chances of getting unblocked. And I want to keep this account. If you do decide to decline my unblock and invoke WP:TPA, please replace the contents of my talk page with the apology I wrote previously. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 22:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please just give me a second chance and I know I can be better. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 22:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence against accusation

@Yamla: If you give me a few days, I believe I can make a convincing case that that is indeed my grandfather and not me. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 02:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: I now have proof that User:Rheighway is not in fact me. (Redacted)
I hope this convinces you to believe me. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 17:10, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was also this close to getting unblocked, why would I ruin that? Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 18:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • (talk page stalker) I do believe Key of G Minor to be a good-faith editor, who has contributed constructively to several areas, including RfD and AfD. They were originally indef blocked by Bbb23 for "disruptive editing", a block which, as they stated (1), was not adequately explained. I was surprised by this block, and asked Bbb23 for explanation on that user's talk page, receiving, in my view, no satisfactory answer (2). Then Key of G Minor found to be a sock of AugustusAudax. I'll restate my opinions here again; I believe that Key of G Minor is a good-faith editor, and that Bbb23's initial block could use with some more scrutiny. No comment on this "Rheighway" affair. OK, I will comment. Rheighway's account was created in 2012, (3), eleven years before AugustusAudax. (Non-administrator comment) Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 18:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your kind words. All I can do is hope the evidence I gave is good enough to prove that we're not the same person. Same family? Yes, but not the same person. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 19:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    This whole situation is just one, big misunderstanding. I thought A3 meant no real content, but I was wrong, so I was blocked. Then, my old account which I have no intention to ever return to (I don't even think I still have the password) was thought to be a sockmaster, because people thought I was under scrutiny when I left. I didn't think I did, and just left and made a new account. Then, I kid you not, my grandfather's account was confused with a sockpuppet of mine (of which I have none) because we I occasionally used his computer, and I made one or two edits on it, so it got auto-blocked too. I don't know why they thought this, because I was so close to getting unblocked, and I wouldn't want to ruin that. But that's not important. I still don't quite understand why making a new account and abandoning the old one is a problem in this case, but I believe I can learn if I'm unblocked. Honestly, this block has done more harm than good. I've noticed so many mistakes I could've corrected in the time I've been blocked. This whole situation is a confusing mess, and I believe it should be resolved as soon as possible. I just hope that Yamla is convinced by my evidence that Rheighway is not my sockpuppet. I'm really just venting/summarizing here, and I apologize for any inconvenience to any readers of this, but I just wanted to get it out. Honestly, I'm just a little stressed, as school starts back up in a little over a week. My hands are getting tired, so I oughta stop typing, but thanks for reading this rant, and I wish myself luck in this hellish dumpster fire of an over-extended month-long journey. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 01:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]