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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 September 2023 ==

{{edit extended-protected|BTS|answered=no}}
Impact, subsection Diplomacy.

1) CURRENT: "BTS were invited to address the United Nations General Assembly in September 2018[349][350] and perform before 400 officials, including President Moon Jae-in, at the 2018 Korea-France Friendship Concert in Paris, a summit celebrating the friendly relations between France and South Korea."

SUGGESTED: "BTS was invited to address the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September 2018. That same year they performed in Paris before an audience of 400, including President Moon Jae-in and other officials, at the 2018 Korea-France Friendship Concert, a summit celebrating the friendly relations between France and South Korea."

WHY: a) This should not be one long, confusing run-on sentence. b) It contains a factual error: they did not perform in front of 400 officials, they performed in front of 400 people, some of whom were officials (https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20181015006700315 and https://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Culture/view?articleId=164255). c) You need to decide if you're going to treat 'BTS' as a singular or plural noun. In most of the rest of the article you treat it as singular ('As of 2023, BTS is the best-selling...' and 'BTS has also appeared on Time's...')
2) CURRENT: "Political scientist Joseph Nye developed the concept of soft power in his 2004 book Soft Power: The Means to Success in World Politics,[345][346] which researchers such as Maud Quessard have applied to BTS and their influence on entertainment diplomacy and international relations.[347] Nye wrote, "when one country gets other countries to want what it wants might be called co-optive or soft power in contrast with the hard or command power of ordering others to do what it wants."

SUGGESTED: "In his 1990 article ''Soft Power'' Joseph Nye developed the concept of a second type of power different from traditional authoritarianism. "This second aspect of power – which occurs when one country gets other countries to want what it wants – might be called co-optive or soft power in contrast with the hard or command power of ordering others to do what it wants."[348-will need updating] Researchers such as Maud Quessard have applied the concept of soft power to BTS and their influence on entertainment diplomacy and international relations.[347]

WHY: a) By using only *part* of a sentence from Nye's book you've created a grammatically incorrect sentence that's hard to follow. b) It is, again, factually incorrect - The quote comes from his 1990 article "Soft Power" published in the journal ''Foreign Policy'', edition No. 80 (Autumn, 1990), pp. 153-171 (the quote is on pg 166) which you can view here: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/page/joseph_nye_soft_power_journal.pdf [[User:Niccast|Niccast]] ([[User talk:Niccast|talk]]) 23:12, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:12, 10 September 2023

Featured articleBTS is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Current status: Featured article

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Comma vs Fullstop

@Lightoil I believe my edit makes more sense grammaticlaly, as the sentence is too complex without a full stop divider 🇬🅰️Ⓜ️⭕🔱📧🅱️🅱️📧🇩 (talk) 04:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gamowebbed Then you should reword the whole sentence. Lightoil (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you 🇬🅰️Ⓜ️⭕🔱📧🅱️🅱️📧🇩 (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 July 2023

bts is known for their popular music and all other kinds — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.114.121 (talk) 12:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 12:09, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 July 2023

Change 2013-present to 2013-2023 Loganp23 (talk) 08:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 09:16, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BTS no longer hold highest selling album

This record is now held by Seventeen's FML, as reflected here-- List of best-selling albums in South Korea 173.68.72.44 (talk) 20:56, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 September 2023

I want to add HYBE Corporation page link in the labels column so that the readers would know that K-Pop singers who are in music companies that are part of HYBE should include HYBE Corporation page link to know more about it.

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SectorKWiki19 (talk) 20:00, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 05:40, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 September 2023

Impact, subsection Diplomacy.

1) CURRENT: "BTS were invited to address the United Nations General Assembly in September 2018[349][350] and perform before 400 officials, including President Moon Jae-in, at the 2018 Korea-France Friendship Concert in Paris, a summit celebrating the friendly relations between France and South Korea."

SUGGESTED: "BTS was invited to address the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September 2018. That same year they performed in Paris before an audience of 400, including President Moon Jae-in and other officials, at the 2018 Korea-France Friendship Concert, a summit celebrating the friendly relations between France and South Korea."

WHY: a) This should not be one long, confusing run-on sentence. b) It contains a factual error: they did not perform in front of 400 officials, they performed in front of 400 people, some of whom were officials (https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20181015006700315 and https://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Culture/view?articleId=164255). c) You need to decide if you're going to treat 'BTS' as a singular or plural noun. In most of the rest of the article you treat it as singular ('As of 2023, BTS is the best-selling...' and 'BTS has also appeared on Time's...')

2) CURRENT: "Political scientist Joseph Nye developed the concept of soft power in his 2004 book Soft Power: The Means to Success in World Politics,[345][346] which researchers such as Maud Quessard have applied to BTS and their influence on entertainment diplomacy and international relations.[347] Nye wrote, "when one country gets other countries to want what it wants might be called co-optive or soft power in contrast with the hard or command power of ordering others to do what it wants."

SUGGESTED: "In his 1990 article Soft Power Joseph Nye developed the concept of a second type of power different from traditional authoritarianism. "This second aspect of power – which occurs when one country gets other countries to want what it wants – might be called co-optive or soft power in contrast with the hard or command power of ordering others to do what it wants."[348-will need updating] Researchers such as Maud Quessard have applied the concept of soft power to BTS and their influence on entertainment diplomacy and international relations.[347]

WHY: a) By using only *part* of a sentence from Nye's book you've created a grammatically incorrect sentence that's hard to follow. b) It is, again, factually incorrect - The quote comes from his 1990 article "Soft Power" published in the journal Foreign Policy, edition No. 80 (Autumn, 1990), pp. 153-171 (the quote is on pg 166) which you can view here: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/page/joseph_nye_soft_power_journal.pdf Niccast (talk) 23:12, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]