Talk:Leo Varadkar

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020

Add to the Taoiseach section of the infobox "Successor = Micheál Martin (designate)" to be consistent with the Leader of the Opposition infobox section on Micheál Martin's page that lists Mary Lou McDonald as his designated successor to that office. Eggsandmarxism (talk) 00:55, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done - Nope. WP:NOTCRYSTAL. Programme still needs to be passed by three parties. Will also remove from MM's page. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 00:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense, as long as it's consistent. Eggsandmarxism (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

"First gay minister" ...

@Spleodrach: and others - rather than edit-war over this, let's analyse the sources. The link referenced quotes, "As well as becoming Ireland’s first gay prime minister, Varadkar, 38, will also become the country’s youngest leader, and the first from an ethnic minority background" (my emphasis).

Firstly, I'm not sure if Leo actually was the first gay TD ('minister' even reads weird) but okay. Secondly, the sources above only support his being the (then future) first gay Taoiseach - it does not specifically say he was the first gay 'minister'. That difference is subtle but significant.

Thoughts? - Alison ^❤ 06:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Let's analyse the facts. No, he was not the first openly gay TD; they were John Lyons and Dominic Hannigan, both elected in 2011. Varadkar was the first serving cabinet minister to come out. Pat Carey was elected in 1997, and served as a minister from 2010 to 2011 but did not come out until 2015, after his retirement. I have added 'serving' to the text to clarify the issue, so now it reads correctly. Spleodrach (talk) 10:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good to me - thanks! - Alison ^❤ 06:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Why can't an Indian have Gaelic version of their name

Guillaume is the French for William, ditto the German Wilhelm, and Gaelic Liam. The Norman family De Burgh is anglicized Burke and Gaelicised de Búrca. So why on earth can't Vardadkar (which means "from Varad") be Gaelicised to de Varad? This isn't makey-uppy - it's translation. Or can't a brown guy with an Indian Dad have a Gaelic name? 86.47.223.249 (talk) 17:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

It's already in the article in the Personal life section. Gaelicised / Made up - same thing here. Per WP:IMOS, it should not be used, as he does not use the name / is not known by this name. Spleodrach (talk) 10:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Can somebody add an Irish Gaelic pronunciation of Varadkar's name? Quang, Bùi Huy (talk) 23:57, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

There is no “Irish Gaelic” pronunciation of his name, as his name is not Irish. He does not use an Irish language form of his name, nor is he referred to as “Leo de Varad” in Irish language media.

On Tuairisc.ie, for example, he is referred to as Leo Varadkar (link).

On TG4 he is referred to as Leo Varadkar (link).

Gaelicising his name would not add anything of value to this page, as in Irish his name is not Gaelicised. If it is in future Gaelicised, then we should move to include it. Xx78900 (talk) 00:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Varadkar (surname) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 19:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Ethnic minority in Ireland

The introduction says

He is Ireland's first, and the world's fifth, openly gay head of government
and the first Taoiseach to be from an ethnic minority in Ireland.

How is ethnic minority in Ireland defined? This is relevant because the 2nd Taoiseach, Éamon de Valera, had a similar background.

Éamon de Valera was born on 14 October 1882 in New York City, the son of Catherine Coll, who was originally from Bruree, County Limerick, and Juan Vivion de Valera, described on the birth certificate as a Spanish artist born in 1853. Some researchers have placed his father's place of birth in Cuba, while others have suggested other locations; according to Antonio Rivero Taravillo, he was born in Seville, while Ronan Fanning has him born in the Basque Country.

Of course, de Valera's father never moved to Ireland, but, apart from that, I don't see much difference.--46.142.141.129 (talk) 10:38, 13 October 2023 (UTC)