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[[User:Byte-ul|Byte-ul]] ([[User talk:Byte-ul|talk]]) 09:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:The European Parliament voted based on the findings and recommendations of the European Commission[https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-8-2018-0258_EN.html], so yes them admitting they had no evidence is relevant to the issue. |
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:I suggest actually reading the cited sources, as they are not '5 articles discussing the same topic'. The first is the original question to the Commission, the next 3 are the separate previous German, French, and Belgian findings on the issue, and only the last one is an article (from ZDNET) discussing the issue in a wider context. |
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:Neither of those reasons though, even if true, would constitute a reason to revert in full and label the contribution as 'malicious' and 'vandalism'. |
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:I have zero idea what you're talking about when you say you're, "[...] feeling increasingly harassed by [my] unwanted attention and intrusive behavior." I civilly replied once to a single comment on Reddit (which you've been spamming to harass other members), you then responded and immediately blocked me, created this Wikipedia account, and reverted my contribution. I mentioned your Reddit username to confirm this was a continuation of that brief interaction. You weren't doxed. You using your own IP address to make a fourth revert might be the closest thing to doxing here. |
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:Now with the relevancy clarified, and having explained the differences between the sources, do you agree to leave my contribution alone? [[User:Ilike2burnthing|Ilike2burnthing]] ([[User talk:Ilike2burnthing|talk]]) 16:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Security provision to Russian Government websites
This report from March 2022 https://cybernews.com/security/kaspersky-neutral-stance-in-doubt-as-it-shields-kremlin/ with a quote from Kaspersky, confrims that they provide DDoS Protection for mil.ru website. While not confirmation of data sharing or spying, this seems to me to be the only solid confirmation of ties to russian government. Is that something noteable to be included in the article? 51.148.190.133 (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Resolve claim of malicious changes/vandalism
@Byte-ul, rather than continuing to go back and forth with reverts, please explain why you consider my referenced contribution to be 'malicious' and 'vandalism'.
Also, that last revert from your public IP address (seemingly an attempt to get around the 3RR) wasn't exactly subtle.
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- @Ilike2burnthing Whether or not the European Commission has proof is not directly relevant to this discussion. The key point is that the motion in question was voted on by the European Parliament, not the Commission. Additionally, the sources you provided do not seem applicable in this context. Citing five separate articles that discuss the same topic comes across as strange. Furthermore, by doxing my user information from other boards, you are behaving dishonestly. I'm feeling increasingly harassed by your unwanted attention and intrusive behavior.
Do not add personal information about other contributors to Wikipedia without their explicit permission. Wikipedia operates on the principle that every contributor has the right to remain completely anonymous. Posting personal information about another user is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's harassment policy. Wikipedia's policy on this issue is strictly enforced and your edits have been reverted and/or suppressed, not least because such information can appear on web searches. Wikipedia's privacy policy is to protect the privacy of every user, including you. Persistently adding personal information about other contributors will result in being blocked from editing.
Byte-ul (talk) 09:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- The European Parliament voted based on the findings and recommendations of the European Commission[1], so yes them admitting they had no evidence is relevant to the issue.
- I suggest actually reading the cited sources, as they are not '5 articles discussing the same topic'. The first is the original question to the Commission, the next 3 are the separate previous German, French, and Belgian findings on the issue, and only the last one is an article (from ZDNET) discussing the issue in a wider context.
- Neither of those reasons though, even if true, would constitute a reason to revert in full and label the contribution as 'malicious' and 'vandalism'.
- I have zero idea what you're talking about when you say you're, "[...] feeling increasingly harassed by [my] unwanted attention and intrusive behavior." I civilly replied once to a single comment on Reddit (which you've been spamming to harass other members), you then responded and immediately blocked me, created this Wikipedia account, and reverted my contribution. I mentioned your Reddit username to confirm this was a continuation of that brief interaction. You weren't doxed. You using your own IP address to make a fourth revert might be the closest thing to doxing here.
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- Now with the relevancy clarified, and having explained the differences between the sources, do you agree to leave my contribution alone? Ilike2burnthing (talk) 16:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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