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Possible conflict of interest

Hello! I should point out that if you are Joanne Harris, we appreciate you volunteering corrections to your biography, but Wikipedia has strict policies on conflict of interest that apply to any edits you make. The most relevant part of that can be read at WP:COISELF.

For general corrections and omissions, you should make edit requests on the talk page of the article, mentioning your conflict of interest. Content you regard as "defamation or a serious error" can be deleted outright, but as it says at the COISELF link you should follow that up with a notification to a relevant response team or noticeboard. In all cases it's important that you disclose your conflict of interest.

(Wikipedia:Libel also has an email address you can contact if you believe that a Wikipedia article contains defamatory statements.)

I'm not sure what the current situation is on the biography, but I'll take a look at it now and see if anything should be removed. Belbury (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

In fact, I see you have already posted to BLPN after removing the content, as would be required above - but didn't mention that you are the subject of the article (if you are the subject of the article!).

On the working assumption that you are, I'll remove the disputed content and flag this more clearly at BLPN. Belbury (talk) 15:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I am not Joanne Harris, but I did set up the original page, and I do add to it from time to time on her behalf. Thank you for removing the disputed content. Keyserzozie (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

@Keyserzozie If you are editing "on her behalf", either as a friend or family member or for pay, then you have a Conflict of interest. Please read that guideline. If you are JH's agent, or anyone who is editing for pay or as part of paid employment, then please also particularly read WP:PAID. Thanks.

You say you set up the page: I see it was begun by an unregistered IP editor in 2002, which was apparently you, and that since you started to edit with your current username you have not edited any articles other than in connection with JH.

It looks as if any declaration of Conflict of Interest from you as required by WP:COIEDIT, will be coming 22 years late, but better late than never. PamD 13:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Keyerzozie is the name of Joanne Harris's Myspace page https://myspace.com/keyserzozie also, of course from many years ago. Also Keyerzozie has taken three photos of Joanne Harris on Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Joanne_Harris.jpg NoorStores (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @PamD. I take your point. I'm not an employee, or anything like that. This is the username I use to keep Joanne's Wiki page up to date. I used the same name to help Joanne set up some of her internet stuff many moons ago, including a long dead MySpace and an email account, which she still has. The photo is a selfie from Joanne in lockdown. She wanted me to try and replace that really old pic that's on her Wiki page right now. (If you can persuade the Gibraltar guy that took it to let someone remove his pic, then you're a better man than I am!) You're right that I don't edit much, sorry. I should look into doing more. I'm not really in touch with Joanne now, although I did drop her a line when I noticed some big changes to her Wiki page. @NoorStores, you've been saying all over the place that I'm Joanne, and been told I'm not. Stop that now. You've obviously got a conflict of interest, and you've been strongly advised to avoid editing pages connected to Kate Clanchy, Joanne Harris, Philip Pullman, Monisha Suleyman and Sunny Singh. It's good advice. From what I've seen, all you seem to do is post stuff about Kate Clanchy's opinions, and then argue about them in the Talk. It's not useful. Keyserzozie (talk) 09:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

That is untrue Keyserzozie, please withdraw your remark. NoorStores (talk) 09:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Keyerzozie, you started and wrote the Joanne Harris page. You started and wrote the pages on Lollipop Shoes, Peaches for Monseiur le Cure, and Runelight too, and you wrote most of the Gentleman and Players page and the Runemarks pages too, all pages about Joanne Harris linked to the Joanne Harris page, and you maintained them all these years. And all the time you were working on behalf of Joanne Harris and you did not acknowledge it.

This is very serious in my opinion because it makes Wikipedia like Joanne Harris's website, written by someone working for her, paid or not. And you say I have a conflict of interest!!??

Then you told Joanne Harris to make an objection to the Libel page? Because I made her pages a tiny bit more neutral??

Your selfie photographs of Joanne say they are all your work and by you. Presumably that is not quite true?

IMPORTANT It is absolutely false that I have said anywhere that you are Joanne Harris. It is absolutely false that I have argued anywhere about Kate Clanchy's opinions. Please withdraw those remarks.

Also I respectfully suggest you withdraw the information given above about Joanne Harris's email. Someone might make a bad use of it. NoorStores (talk) 09:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Please stop messaging me, @NoorStores. These demands and accusations feel like harassment. I'm not going to interact with you again. Keyserzozie (talk) 09:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I have made a report about to the Conflict of Interest Notice Board @Keyserzozie

It's here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard NoorStores (talk) 14:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to see the level of aggression that you've had from NoorStores here and on other talk pages! I'm glad that you seem to have gotten the measure of them and understand that they aren't a Wikipedia administrator or anything like that.

Are you happy with where Wikipedia stands on your own declared conflict of interest, as somebody who has a collaborative connection to Harris but isn't being paid by her? That you're welcome to make "unambiguously uncontroversial edits" to articles about her per WP:COIADVICE, but that anything beyond that should be raised on the talk pages? Harris's biography is hopefully being watched by more editors now, myself included, so any edit requests you make will be looked at. Belbury (talk) 09:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this. I'm aware that Noorstores isn't an administrator: everyone else I've come across at Wiki has always been really helpful. I'm totally fine to float any future content on the Talk page: honestly until recently I only checked it every few months for new books and awards. One thing I was hoping to raise was the Recurrent Themes section, removed wholesale by Noorstores a few days ago. I get that it was probably too long (I copy-pasted most of it from a cache of Joanne's website). But other authors have similar content on their Wiki pages, and I didn't think it was irrelevant. There were also references to Joanne's synesthesia, which is well documented, and for which I'd added a link. Do you think it would be okay if I (or someone else) reinserted a pared-down version of this? Keyserzozie (talk) 09:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

So long as it's sourceable it sounds okay to me. I don't think you should add that kind of content yourself, but I'll take a look at doing so myself at some point soon. Belbury (talk) 10:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much(I'm guessing you'd do it better that I would anyway). Your help is appreciated. Keyserzozie (talk) 10:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

I would ask you to read and follow the policy at WP:COI more literally at this point, particularly WP:COIEDIT. COI policy isn't just there to prevent flashy promotional edits and the airing of academic grievances, it's also about the unintentional bias when someone with a close connection to a subject expands a biography working in part from what they know to be true, rather than what can be and has been sourced.

Your recent edit about Harris performing with "the band she has played with since school" is presumably entirely true, but it's not mentioned in the source for that sentence, so I can't check to see that you got it right. It may be something she's only ever spoken about privately, it may be that you or a source you've read has misinterpreted something about a university band, or a band from when she was a teacher. This isn't earth-shattering stuff, but it's adding potential unsourceable content to a Wikipedia biography, and one of the foundations of Wikipedia is that the reader should always be able to verify for themselves that something an article says is true.

You're obviously welcome to edit any other articles, but for this one you should really stick to geninely uncontroversial edits and making suggestions on the talk page. --Belbury (talk) 20:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks: I really appreciate your help. I'm still learning what Wiki means by "uncontroversial." I've read about this in several places (including the author's website): would this be a valid reference? [1]https://stradamusic.com/artist/joanne-harris-storytime/ Keyserzozie (talk) 20:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Making uncontroversial edits link has a list of appropriate edits, although I appreciate that the list itself is using some Wikipedia jargon.

An author or music agency's own website is a WP:PRIMARY source - a reference like that can be used for straightforward facts, but should be done with care. An author's own website or social media posts can also be cited under WP:ABOUTSELF, so long as the claims being made by it aren't too astonishing, or involve third parties. Belbury (talk) 09:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

That's really helpful, thanks. Keyserzozie (talk) 09:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Someone's pointed out at Talk:Joanne Harris that under COI guidelines you have to declare your conflict of interest whenever you make a COI-related edit. You can either do that by laboriously mentioning it in every edit summary, with a template on your user page, or adding templates to the talk pages of articles: instructions are at WP:DISCLOSE.

This is already covered for the Joanne Harris article because there's a template at the top of its talk page now, and I'll add the same to the articles you've worked on about Harris's books, but if you intend to edit other related articles, please bear this guideline in mind. Thanks. --Belbury (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll bear it in mind. But I'm not planning to do any more editing on here. I'm aware that I'm out of touch, and it's getting a bit too much for me. Keyserzozie (talk) 13:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia hard to learn and everyone makes mistakes. I've made lots, and I've learned a lot too. I can understand that in 2002 Wikipedia was different and it was probably okay and normal for Joanne Harris to ask you to set up the pages for her. But things have changed a lot since then and you were told about it. It's very very clear when Tokyo Girl wrote on the Joanne Harris page about Neutrality that there was a big problem, but you basically just ignored her and reverted her edits. And you ignored JosefKrasner too. And there are other notices on the Book pages which are super clear.

Also Joanne Harris should have told you the regulations changed. She is Chair of the Society of Authors, and they specialise in 'the small print' !! (website). They are all about contracts and details and also promotion and what's right and what isn't. So if anyone in the UK should have known what Wiki book pages should be like it was Joanne Harris.

Also it's just wrong, isn't it? You go to wiki thinking you are going to get facts. If you are promoting someone on there instead, that isn't facts, it's promotion, and it's wrong and you must know that really. Because it's not true. It's a sort of lying. And it wasn't truthful to come on here pretending to be a neutral editor and accused me of COI. I think that was really wrong. NoorStores (talk) 13:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Keyserzozie: Something just occurred to me: you say that you are "not an employee, or anything like that" of JH; you've also mentioned somewhere that you are retired; could you confirm whether when you did your major set of edits in 2012 you were at that time doing so as an employee or otherwise paid for your editing? (That would be quite compatible with your statement above, as "employee 11 years ago" is a very different thing from "employee": I'm not accusing you of misrepresentation, just asking for clarification.) Thanks. PamD 08:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks Pam. I'd like to know if @Keyserzozie was doing the writing herself or just posting Harris' material for her? But she has left it seems. NoorStores (talk) 10:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  @NoorStores Noor, I wonder why you think KS is female? I've imagined them as male, but as far as I know we don't know either way. PamD 13:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  Well I suppose because they first appeared I had them confused with the IP address who says they were Joanne Harris. It was a genuine mistake on my part, I thought the IP addres was a link and they were one person with Keyserzozie. It just carries on from that, they are a woman in my mind. I’m sorry I made the mistake but it was the shock of my life JH appearing like that!!!! NoorStores (talk) 14:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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I've been editing Wiki for years on and off for my own amusement, but I'd never been on the Talk pages until a couple of weeks ago, and I was surprised to receive a lot of aggression there from one particular person. I thought that if I closed my account and created another one, I could avoid being targeted by her. I wasn't aware that creating a secondary account was against the rules. I'm really sorry. I'd very much like to have the chance to start editing again with a clean slate, and preferably with a different name. Keyserzozie (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

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Unblock discussion

Looks like you were called upon to address your long standing WP:conflict of interest regarding Joanne Harris and created new accounts to continue editing with a conflict of interest regarding Joanne Harris. Probably, to be unblocked you would need to read and heed WP:COI and agree to use but one account. Other admin's mileage may vary. Best,-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I concur and in addition, would say not only do they need to disclose the nature of the conflict of interest, they probably need to agree to a WP:TOPICBAN around Joanne Harris. --Yamla (talk) 11:13, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm happy to do that. I would like to keep adding things to the Joanne Harris page, it's been a little hobby of mine. But I'm ok to declare a COI if that's appropriate. I'm a fan. I am not, and have never been paid for doing this. I live near Joanne, I helped her set up some things on her computer years ago, and I follow her on social media, but that's it really. I'm happy to stick to small factual edits to her page, or float any important stuff on the Talk page. I'm still a bit fuzzy on all the wiki rules I'm afraid. I was told that I could still add stuff as long as it wasn't controversial. But when someone started making hundreds of edits about Joanne on lots of different pages, including some that I thought were just vandalism, then talking to me as if I was her, I got worried that they were trying to get at Joanne through me. That's why I made another account with a name that didn't link me to her. I see now that it was against the rules, and I won't do it again. Keyserzozie (talk) 12:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)