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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 31, 2024.

Raman Raheja (entrepreneur)

• Raman Raheja (entrepreneur) → Legends League Cricket  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a weird case. The only reason this page exists is due to the creator working around the Raman Raheja title salt. The base name had been speedily deleted 3 times for A7 and G11, and this variant title lasted less than 24 hours as an article, before being WP:BLAR'd into the cricket league. Because there is only a passing mention of Raheja at the target, and no indication that Raheja is an entrepreneur, this redirect does not seem very useful without any content about Raheja being an entrepreneur at the cricket league page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 20:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, while the redirect IS pointing to the correct location as per the BLAR'd article, I'm similarly in Utopes's boat in that I'm unsure Raheja counts as an entrepreneur. The only reason this redirect would be any help, is... to get around the salt, because nobody can put a redirect at Raman Raheja either-- because we don't, and can't, have the page Raman Raheja, someone typing Raman Raheja into the searchbar would quite quickly have their query autocompleted to Raman Raheja (entrepreneur), which... would then lead them to Legends League Cricket.

On the one hand, as shown by it being the only thing said BLAR'd article talked about, it's pretty clear that Legends League Cricket is the only thing Raheja is notable for, meaning a redirect to here (where he's the CEO) is warranted; however, THIS redirect is probably a bad idea. The only possible way forward I can think of is to Delete this redirect, then-- with a big MAYBE attached, because I'm not sure that we should do this-- unsalt and create Raman Raheja as a redirect to Legends League Cricket, before immediately protecting the redirect. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

6.9

• 6.9 → Mercedes-Benz W116#6.9  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

redirects to car model though not sure if this would be relevant enough to warrant a redirect. Possible disambig? Okmrman (talk) 23:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. This is a partial title match for several articles and topics, and the use of Search is better. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

ZX-1

• ZX-1 → Methylenedioxypyrovalerone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The term is not currently mentioned on the target page (or on the redirect's former target page, 3-Fluoromethcathinone). I would suggest Retargeting to Vitus (bicycle company), where the term is used (and bolded already). Tevildo (talk) 22:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to new disambiguation page ZX1. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to ZX1 per Shhhnotsoloud. Tevildo (talk) 13:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

6.9 million

• 6.9 million → Population White Paper  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

sure the number is significant to the article but 6.9 million is not that uncommon of a number to get in any research paper involving population Okmrman (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. There are 702 mentions of "6.9 million" and I can't see that there is a primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

7.92

• 7.92 → 8 mm caliber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

searching it up on google doesn't result in 8 mm but it does show another bullet type Okmrman (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Dabify, there are quite a fair number of ammunition types and/or firearms that we have articles on, that could be targeted to. Of note are the following:
7.92x57mm Mauser
7.92×33mm Kurz
7.92×94mm Patronen
7.92×107mm DS
7.92×36mm EPK
7.92 mm Rifle Anti-Tank Mascerzek
7.92mm Bergmann MG15Na 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Rather than create a disambiguation page of what are probably WP:Partial title matches, improve the current target article – the appropriate section of which is already tagged {{Missing information}} – and/or the linked List of rifle cartridges. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Lola B07/17

• Lola B07/17 → Lola B06/10  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect is not mentioned at target article. Declined speedy, so sending it here. DrowssapSMM 19:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: per WP:REDYES 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 20:42, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - I believe that the B07/17 is a variant of the B06/10 as opposed to a new model, but looking through what sources I can find, it's not clear, certainly I'm not able to add anything to the current target. So then the only option is to delete. If something were added about this model/variant to the current target, then this could of course be kept/recreated. A7V2 (talk) 23:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Wasp sting

• Wasp sting → Bee sting  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not interchangeable title. Awesome Aasim 17:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

For the record, the redirect Bee and wasp stings also redirects here. Diving into their histories as well as the history of the Bee sting article, I found the following:

• Wasp sting was created in 2006 as a redirect to Bee sting. At this point, the Bee sting article was an unsourced stub that described the topic as also referring to wasp and hornet stings, as well as potentially horsefly bites.
• Bee and wasp stings was created as a stub in 2009 by the project WP:DERM and thus took a medical stance at the issue. It was refined a bit, until R-with-merging with Bee sting. At this point, the Bee sting article had been fleshed out, and was slowly being molded into the shape we see today-- it still mentioned hornet and wasp stings in the first few sentences as a holdover from that initial stub, but it was now solidly about stings from bees.
• Around 2011, the Wasp sting redirect was retargeted without obvious-to-me discussion to Wasp, then again to Vespid, by user:Alaxdar, before being reverted as a reversion of good faith edit back to Bee sting by User:Tyrol5. At this point, the Bee sting article still discussed wasp and hornet stings in the opening paragraph.
• In June 2015, the sentence talking about how wasp and hornet stings are sometimes referred to as bee stings was finally removed from the opening paragraph, by user:Chiswick Chap.
• The very last part of the article talking about wasps and hornets, a single sentence in the opener, would get removed by an IP editor in 2018.

Bee and wasp stings does deserve to get its own RfD. As for Wasp sting, I don't actually know of a good target-- Hornet#Stings exists and seems to be the most in-depth discussion on the topic Wikipedia has, but doesn't talk about non-hornet wasps, like the yellowjacket or paper wasp. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget Stinger#Arthropods. Seems to have some info on wasp stingers --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
• Comment @Awesome Aasim, Lunamann, and Lenticel: there is also another article, Arthropod bites and stings. Kk.urban (talk) 01:50, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Arthropod bites and stings * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Retarget to Arthropod bites and stings as best of the options above. A7V2 (talk) 23:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Hugin 2023.0.0.d88dc56ded0e built by Thomas

• Hugin 2023.0.0.d88dc56ded0e built by Thomas → Hugin (software)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unlikely search target, nobody is gonna search by git commit ID Sohom (talk) 18:30, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep this is an {{R from file metadata}}, it's linked from at least two files on Commons File:Panorama Abram van Rijckevorselweg Capelle aan den IJssel.jpg and File:Schobergruppe vom Figerhorn.jpg. Thryduulf (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Medical-grade silicon

• Medical-grade silicon → Silicon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I accidentally mistyped "silicone". I moved the redirect to Medical-grade silicone but of course that left a redirect. Medical-grade silicon is presumably a thing, but I think anyone searching for it is more likely to want medical-grade silicone; I'm not the only one to make this typo, it's quite common, and some people also don't know the difference.

I request discussion; I don't know what outcome would be best. Should this redir be a disambiguation page? Deleted? Redirected as a misspelling, or a a topic in its own right? HLHJ (talk) 16:40, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Speedy delete: tbf there's no harm in just deleting it outright (and leaving it as WP:REDYES in case medical-grade silicon does become a thing with coverage on here). After all, nothing links to it, and there isn't really a 'correct' target for it as of now. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 18:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Medical grade silicone as {{R from misspelling}}: I agree with the nom that thios could be a common mistake. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Style (EP)

• Style (EP) → Style (Super Junior-D&E album)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

At this title for five minutes at creation due to a mistake of page creator. Incorrect and potentially confusing. Rusalkii (talk) 05:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to Style (disambiguation)#Albums. Thryduulf (talk) 12:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
• Agree with Thryduulf. Jay 💬 14:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. There are not any "EP" subjects titled "Style" listed at Style (disambiguation)#Albums. Steel1943 (talk) 07:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

  There are however things that may be looked for using this title. Thryduulf (talk) 11:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget as per Thryduulf. While it's true that we don't yet have any EPs titled Style, if we ever get one, this is exactly where in the disambiguation it'd show up. Yes, I know that that's technically an argument in violation of WP:ATA#CRYSTAL, hush. In addition, as Thryduulf pointed out in reply to Steel, it handily points anyone mistakenly looking for "EP" when the recording they're looking for is actually an "Album" to the right place. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Post-punk metal

• Post-punk metal → Post-punk  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

term doesnt exist. this user is known for creating nonsensical and disruptive redirects FMSky (talk) 13:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Placeholder (Computing)

• Placeholder (Computing) → printf  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Placeholder#Mathematics and computer science includes four potential targets. It does not appear obvious to me that the target of this redirect is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Nickps (talk) 18:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to the dab section as a {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Move to Placeholder (computing) without leaving a redirect as this is arguably an WP:RDAB situation as "computing" isn't a proper noun. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to the dab section as per Thryduulf, then create Placeholder (computing) as a second redirect that also targets to the same dab, both with {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. I don't see how moving a redirect as per Crouch would be helpful, but if we have the incorrectly capitalized version, it only makes sense to also have the correctly capitalized version. Also, the bigger problem is still the target, not the name of the redirect. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that the lowercase disambiguator should just be created as well (and mark this one as a {{R avoided double redirect}} of it) per Lunamann and WP:MOVEREDIRECT (basically don't move a redirect unless it's necessary, and moving this one isn't). "(Computing)" and "(computing)" are equally plausible search terms. Thryduulf (talk) 02:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

  Search takes care of capitalization, we don't need to keep incorrectly capitalized qualifier redirects without a good reason. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

  Search only takes care of capitalisation for a subset of the ways people navigate Wikipedia. The good reason to keep this redirect is to help people navigate to the target they are looking for, but what we actually need is a good reason to delete a redirect and incorrect but plausible capitalisation is never a good reason on its own to delete. Thryduulf (talk) 20:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

  That would be a good reason if those people exist. This page was visited by 6 people last month all of whom were almost surely looking for the non-existent placeholder (computing) instead. Is there an example of a way to navigate WP that actual people use and that would require the incorrectly capitalized version even if the correct one existed? If not, this redirect is useless and should be deleted moved to the correct title per Crouch. Nickps (talk) 16:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

  It seems to be the case that such redirects can get less than 100 views in over 8 years where the correct version exists. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 29#Yoda (Song) and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 13#Morbius (Film) though there is no data there. The point in any case is that of those less than 100 views its likely most would have got there without the redirect as the search takes you to the best capitalization it can if there isn't an exact match. And some may also have been from bots or people ending up on it for maintenance reasons or similar. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

• disamig per nom and Thryduulf -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

• Move to placeholder (computing) without a redirect and then change the target to the dab page. Since opening the RfD, I've come to see the incorrect disambiguator as a problem. I'd !vote delete if the correct version already existed. Nickps (talk) 01:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 11:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Newbie, but I think both capitalizations should redir to Placeholder (disambiguation)#Mathematics and computer science, or to an anchor there. I don't think the incorrect capitalization is liable to cause much trouble. HLHJ (talk) 16:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete at this capitalisation. Create Placeholder (computing) as required. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Burnie board

• Burnie board → Masonite  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• BurnieBoard → Masonite  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of the word "burnie" at the target article. To that effect, there is only one mention of "burnie board" on Wikipedia, which is in the List of buildings designed by architect John Dalton, as the Burnie Board Residence and Administration Building. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:05, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment the history of the camelcase redirect contains an external link [1] which explains the connection "A 1960s advert for Burnie Board – it appeared in an Australian magazine in 1963. [...] 'Burnie Board' is a type of hardboard or Masonite. The Burnie Paper Mill (1937–2010), Burnie, Tasmania, produced paper, high-grade sawn timber and sheet material like 'Burnie Board'" and multiple other web hits also back up that it was also a type of or similar to masonite, but everything seems to indicate it was a product only or primarily of the 1950s-60s so I would expect most reliable sources to be offline. Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as per Thryduulf's findings. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Thryduulf. Is "burnished" close enough to "Burnie" that we don't have to add an explicit mention of "Burnie" to the target article? feminist🩸 (talk) 06:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete both per nom, unless a mention is added to the target. I would support keeping the camelcase redirect if it were an {{R with old history}}, but considering that it was created just a few months ago, then there isn't any valuable history to preserve. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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• The advert shown in the external link clearly stylises the product name in camelcase, making it a plausible and useful search term. Therefore either both should be kept or both should be deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 12:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Monkeyz and Dolphinz

• Monkeyz → Petz#Petz since 2006  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Dolphinz → Petz#Petz since 2006  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Speaking of Petz, both of these redirects target a section that no longer exists. Notably, while the article also no longer mentions either of these by name, both refer to extant titles in the Petz series. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Forgot to add: Redirects were made in 2010, both by the same author. The section they pointed to was then deleted in August 2013, due to being, quote, "unsourced commentary." 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:32, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

and a quick part 2: I was going to notify the person who removed the section, but they seem to have left Wikipedia according to their talk page. With some rather angry words directed at ArbCom. Hm. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:39, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, as I wouldn't have remembered that I had created these even if I saw them listed. Though I admit these redirects appear to be rarely used, I think the best thing to do would be to copyedit the article and include the other titles to give a complete picture of the series. The Gameplay section includes Pigz and Bunnyz, so including the other two wouldn't be that out of place (though arguably they could all be moved to a better section that lists the games). I'm unclear why the article would only include what it calls the "Main series" games, but exclude others, particularly when the infobox lists titles that are listed no where else in the article. Based on the existence of Petz: Dogz 2 and Catz 2 and without digging through the history, I suspect the article got confusing or contentious by trying to cover the Petz series without a page for Dogz: Your Computer Pet and Catz: Your Computer Pet, which led to the other animals or games being considered commentary or extraneous. So essentially, I would !vote keep, but to also copyedit the page to expand on games in the series, though I don't want to make those edits while this discussion is inconclusive. —Ost (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

For the record, my listing here is mostly due to the 'refined to nonexistent section' issue, and I agree with you that if they were added back to the article (which they should be), these redirects (...redirectz?) need to be kept and refined to wherever in the article they now show up. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 05:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, which may have been in response to my rather detailed reply. I made some edits to the page, including an Animals section, but you may have a better idea for what section should include the content. From what I saw when searching, there may not be a Pigz game, though the animals were in some later Dogz titles. —Ost (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

For the record: The topic is now mentioned at Petz#Animals. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:45, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Retarget to Petz#Animalz: seeing as that's where these games are currently mentioned on the page 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 21:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Central Booking

• Central Booking → Baltimore City District Courthouses#Central Booking  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect should probably be deleted. "Central booking" is a generic term which can be and is used to refer to processing centers for arrestees in jurisdictions all over the United States. (I don't know if this applies to elsewhere in the English-speaking world). It certainly does not have a stronger association with Baltimore, Maryland than any other municipality, all of which have their own central booking. If this redirect isn't deleted, it should maybe be targeted to either the prison or arrest article. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 19:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

• Disambiguate There also appears to be a song by Lena Hall entitled this along with a 2005 film (mentioned at Al Sapienza and elsewhere). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:39, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Disambiguate. Draft provided. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

;-;

• ;-; → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• ; ; → Emoticon#Asian style  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• ;n; → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another set of emoticons with unexpectedly different targets. Using semicolons as eyes, but switching the mouth style, does not seem logical to have a difference in topics here, between the list and the general page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Refine all to List of emoticons#Eastern. Might as well have the best of both worlds. Alternately, one could make an anchor on the appropriate part of the list and target there, although it's close enough to the top of the Eastern section that it's not hard to find from my suggestion. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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')

• ') → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• '( → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another set of two emoticons, and in this case I'm really not seeing why :') would go one way and :'( would go the other. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Target both to the list, they both show up pretty early there. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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-)

• -) → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• -( → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• -/ → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• -\ → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A handful of emoticons structured like this are targets to either Emoticon or List of emoticons. In this case, these are all have the nose and mouth, although the eyes don't appear for technical reasons (but do at the page). I'm not seeking deletion, but rather that the difference in targets may be unexpected. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 14:51, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Seems harmless enough, and they do successfully get you where you need to go, even if they look a little ugly while doing it. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@Utopes So... you're seeing utility in navigating readers to these two topics, but would prefer for the internal search engine to do that instead of short-circuiting to one of the two? Why? --Joy (talk) 14:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Both smiling emoticons, frowning emoticons, and slash emoticons are discussed at both the general emoticon page, and at the list of emoticons page. Among this particular set where the emoticons are structured nearly identically, the difference in targets does not seem expectable. Nothing about ":-/" would make someone think they were going to a list instead of the general page about emoticons. While still ongoing, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 11#XD (Emoticon) has signaled that the overarching list might be a preferable target for individual emoticon redirects. (I'll emphasize in the nomination that I'm not seeking deletion here.) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I admittedly missed the fact that they were going to different places. I'd point them to the list, as per Utopes. (This would be a Retarget for everything but :-/ ) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@Utopes it would be best to actually say where you want to retarget, because this made me think you want to delete them. --Joy (talk) 17:23, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@Joy: I didn't, and still don't have a preference on where to retarget these. I indicated in the nomination that -/ and -\ had different targets despite being the same type of emoticon, and was describing this being an issue coupled via subsequent nominations I was planning/setting up when writing this. Your response came before I completed the set. (Meant to say this earlier). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

OK, it makes sense to keep them consistent. Why not just WP:be bold and pick one of the two options? :) --Joy (talk) 10:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment These redirect eixst due to technical limitations - specifically page names cannot begin with a colon, leading colons are ignored in search strings (so e.g. "-" and ":-)" lead to exactly the same place) and have a technical meaning in links (e.g. for interwikis) so e.g. -) and -) ([[-)]] and [[:-)]]) lead to the same page. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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Firestone (Pern)

• Firestone (Pern) → Dragonriders of Pern#Firestone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article, a fictional... rock apparently, from a series of books. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 06:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete unless better solution found. This, admittedly, is an {{R with history}}-- it was a 2007 era article stub, that was merged into Pern... which itself was BLAR'd at AfD for non-notability. I'd go into the old version of the Pern article to see if anything might be salvagable for re-merging into Dragonriders of Pern, to potentially have a sourced mention of Firestone at the Dragonriders article... but User:Sgeureka, when BLAR'ing the Pern article, also deleted its history?? I didn't even know that that was possible, most BLARs I've seen retain the history...

Given the alternative-- the 2007era stub that was merged into Pern-- was an unsourced stub and thus has little if anything of value, I can't truly recommend keeping. Not that we should have this anyways, per WP:CRUFT... 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 16:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

2024 Rohan Bopanna tennis season

• 2024 Rohan Bopanna tennis season → Rohan Bopanna  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]  PrinceofPunjab^TALK 05:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

  It seems like adding the 2024 season to the main article would be undue weight. But doubles is a bit tricky to gauge as it's not very popular. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:18, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak retarget to Rohan Bopanna#2024: Doubles; oldest major champion and world No. 1: seeing as that section of the article talks about his 2024 season. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 15:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Flying Theme

• Flying Theme → E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (soundtrack)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Multiple flying themes exist inside and outside of soundtracks. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (soundtrack) describes a flying theme, The Matrix Reloaded mentions a flying theme, Flying (Taehyung Theme) exists as a redirect to BTS World: Original Soundtrack, as well as any other theme that plays while flying. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to a disambiguation page (yet to be created) consisting of the aforementioned pages. _signed, Pat ^talk 01:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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After some thinking, I think having this Retarget to a disambiguation page wouldn't hurt. Okmrman (talk) 04:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Changing to Dabify per above Okmrman (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't think this should retarget to the dab page-- I think this should BE the dab page. Dabify. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Jason Waterfalls

• Jason Waterfalls → Waterfalls (TLC song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Nobody named "Jason" is mentioned at the target page of this R from catchphrase redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment - For what it's worth, this is a pretty common/notorious misunderstanding of the songs name/chorus. Sergecross73 msg me 01:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

"Chasing" is also not mentioned at the target, which I would've expected Chasing Waterfalls more if anything. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that is surprising. It's part of the chorus and central to the concept of the song, so it seems like it could pretty easily be included. Sergecross73 msg me 01:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 03:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Would you like a Jelly Baby?

• Would you like a Jelly Baby? → Fourth Doctor  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

An R from catchphrase not mentioned at the target article, not a likely search term for the Fourth Doctor. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Weak Delete. I am EXCEEDINGLY surprised that that catchphrase ISN'T mentioned in the target article, given how ingrained said catchphrase is to the Fourth Doctor's character-- it's as Fourth Doctor as his scarf. If someone were to add it to the article, I don't think I'd support deletion anymore. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep {{R from quote}} / {{R from search term}} / {{R without mention}}, the iconic catchphrase from Tom Baker's version. It already appears at wikiquote:Fourth Doctor which is already linked to from our article -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Weak delete per first reply Okmrman (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I am the one who knocks!

• I am the one who knocks! → Walter White (Breaking Bad)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

An R from catchphrase that is not listed at the target article. Creator banned for sockpuppetry has had similar deleted catchphrase redirects in the past. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep {{R from quote}} / {{R from search term}} / {{R without mention}} -- the iconic catchphrase for this character, which is featured in several memes. It appears at wikiquote:Breaking Bad (season 4), so a link to wikiquote:Breaking Bad should be added to the article -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 04:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think we generally link to WikiQuote like that, and even if we did, I don't know how we'd include that naturally with encyclopedic content... Sergecross73 msg me 00:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

  Just add a WikiQuote linkbox to the see also or external links section -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 08:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

  Unless you literally plaster "I am the one who knocks" at the bottom of the page, it's not going to satisfy our redirect standards. And as you've likely noticed, we don't have quote collections at the bottom of fictional character articles. Sergecross73 msg me 16:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - per comments above, I can't imagine implementing this into the article in a meaningful, necessary way. Sergecross73 msg me 18:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. most people who even have the slightest clue about what breaking bad even is would probably already know what his name is and those who don't won't even really remember that he said that. Okmrman (talk) 03:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Cox's Bazar iconic railway station

• Cox's Bazar iconic railway station → Cox's Bazar railway station  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unnecessary editorializing. Rusalkii (talk) 03:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete Mehedi Abedin 11:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

It's dangerous to go alone!

• It's dangerous to go alone! → The Legend of Zelda  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• It's dangerous to go alone! Take this. → The Legend of Zelda  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is not really any mention of this quote on the actual page for the Zelda franchise and I doubt this quote is even notable enough to get mentioned on the Zelda franchise page anyways. Okmrman (talk) 03:40, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - its a famous phrase from the game. Reliable sources comment on it, and it would be easy to mention in some sort of Legacy/Impact type section. See Eurogamer or TheGamer discuss it. Sergecross73 msg me 14:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

  Support the retarget as well. Sergecross73 msg me 18:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep/Retarget to The Legend of Zelda (video game): Sergecross73 already discussed notability. However, this quote is from the original NES game (and is currently mentioned in the The Legend of Zelda (video game) article), so it makes more sense for it to redirect to the actual source of the quote. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 15:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

  I'll be fine with a retarget if the page gave more info about the quote than just an horary mention. Okmrman (talk) 20:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

  A brief sourced mention is really the only requirement when we're talking about something as minor as a redirect, though as I showed with my sources, it's possible to expand too. Sergecross73 msg me 22:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget as per HotMess, tag as {{template:R from quotation}}. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 16:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)