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Why do we have a single article for the island and the country? Islands that are shared by multiple countries, such as Hispaniola have their own separate article from the country, as do the Dominican Republic and the Republic of Haiti. And England and Scotland and Wales and Great Britain and the United Kingdom have their own separate articles, as well as Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. And conversely, countries with multiple islands have an article dedicated to the country and each of the islands, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Mindanao, Luzon, Sulawesi, New Guinea, Japan, Honshu, Hokkaido, etc. But when it comes to Cuba or Puerto Rico or Jamaica or Madagascar the articles are condensed into a single article. The same goes for subnational jurisdictions as well, such as Hainan, Taiwan (disputed), Hawaii, Tasmania, etc |
Why do we have a single article for the island and the country? Islands that are shared by multiple countries, such as Hispaniola have their own separate article from the country, as do the Dominican Republic and the Republic of Haiti. And England and Scotland and Wales and Great Britain and the United Kingdom have their own separate articles, as well as Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. And conversely, countries with multiple islands have an article dedicated to the country and each of the islands, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Mindanao, Luzon, Sulawesi, New Guinea, Japan, Honshu, Hokkaido, etc. But when it comes to Cuba or Puerto Rico or Jamaica or Madagascar the articles are condensed into a single article. The same goes for subnational jurisdictions as well, such as Hainan, Taiwan (disputed), Hawaii, Tasmania, etc. [[Special:Contributions/71.219.19.100|71.219.19.100]] ([[User talk:71.219.19.100|talk]]) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:On a side note I could ask why older versions of current countries have their own articles, such as the Soviet Union or the Ottoman Empire have separate articles from the articles for Russia or Turkey, while current countries such as the People’s Republic of China or the Arab Republic of Egypt have the history of the entire region since ancient times. Or ask why the articles of those defunct countries have population data and other information which is frozen at the point at which they ended, the point being that Wikipedia could stand to be sorted out better than it is. But I won’t get sidetracked. [[Special:Contributions/71.219.19.100|71.219.19.100]] ([[User talk:71.219.19.100|talk]]) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
:On a side note I could ask why older versions of current countries have their own articles, such as the Soviet Union or the Ottoman Empire have separate articles from the articles for Russia or Turkey, while current countries such as the People’s Republic of China or the Arab Republic of Egypt have the history of the entire region since ancient times. Or ask why the articles of those defunct countries have population data and other information which is frozen at the point at which they ended, the point being that Wikipedia could stand to be sorted out better than it is. But I won’t get sidetracked. [[Special:Contributions/71.219.19.100|71.219.19.100]] ([[User talk:71.219.19.100|talk]]) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Human Rights section in need of review; who wrote this?
Torture and weird sources
First of all, simply writing "The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extrajudicial executions" is not sufficient without mention of proper sources, for example NGO's or some recognized polity. I could accuse Norway of torture right now, so? What is this source supposed to be? http://www.cidh.org/countryrep/Cuba67sp/indice.htm It is dated 1967? Surely something more recent should be found, otherwise the section might aswell be moved to "history of Cuba" Torture? Extrajudicial executions? I can't find any mention of these in recent reports. Not even the US state department claims the Cuban government practices torture or extrajudicial execution. Here is the recent report by human rights watch https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/cuba#3159b0 It does not mention torture, sexual abuse of inmates or extrajudicial executions. Those parts should be removed or changed to include what time this accusation was made.
Needs update
Cuba had the second-highest number of imprisoned journalists of any nation in 2008 (China had the highest) according to various sources, including the Committee to Protect Journalists and Human Rights Watch
Here it is mentioned that the statistic stems from 2008, which is good. But this statistic is kind of useless other then mentioning a previous condition. It missrepresents Cuba for the average reader. Cuba did not even make the list of this 2018 ranking for imprisoned journalists: https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/12/13/where-the-most-journalists-are-imprisoned-worldwide-infographic/?sh=1b693b336332 The situation of journalists in Cuba is still under scrutany, but for different reasons. For example HRC writes: Cuba has the “most restricted climate for the press in the Americas” according to a 2019 Committee to Protect Journalists report.
WP:POV?
The section does not balance out the negatives with the positives, such as information about Cubans access to healthcare, free abortions and school etc. Accusations from 70 years ago are being represented as if they are currently being made (torture and executions)
recomendations
1. Remove claims of torture and extrajudicial executions from the first sentence 2. Mention were all accusations come from and source it 3. Remove the part about sexual abuse of inmates 4. Update section to represent current conditions. 5. Extend the section about the media with more information and remove the part about imprisonment of journalists.
-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herooow (talk • contribs) 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Cuba operates as a single-party semi-presidential system
Despite Cuba being the single party communist state, political system is technically a semi-presidential system although the president had more power from the 1976 Constitution as presidential. Since the 2019 Constitution, Cuba has been governed as a one-party communist semi-presidential republic like all other multiparty systems with the president and prime minister holding executive powers. After the revolution, it had a parliamentary system (Fidel Castro set up a semi-presidential dictatorship, under which he held firm control of the government as prime minister while placing nominal loyalists as figurehead presidents (Manuel Urrutia Lleó in 1959 and Osvaldo Dorticós Torrado from 1959 until 1976).)
This is what I found from CubaProxima.org if anyone can translate Spanish to English. Silence of Lambs (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Claims of the first spanish settlement being in the year 1511
there were already spaniards settled in cuba by 1511, there was a taino revolt that had spread through the islands in the year 1511 due to spanish torture and opression. A revolutionary taino cacique fled Puerto Rico to seek support from tainoes in cuba. I don't have my books at the moment so i can't give exact names and dates. 24.44.14.80 (talk) 01:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Single Article
Why do we have a single article for the island and the country? Islands that are shared by multiple countries, such as Hispaniola have their own separate article from the country, as do the Dominican Republic and the Republic of Haiti. And England and Scotland and Wales and Great Britain and the United Kingdom have their own separate articles, as well as Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland. And conversely, countries with multiple islands have an article dedicated to the country and each of the islands, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Mindanao, Luzon, Sulawesi, New Guinea, Japan, Honshu, Hokkaido, etc. But when it comes to Cuba or Puerto Rico or Jamaica or Madagascar the articles are condensed into a single article. The same goes for subnational jurisdictions as well, such as Hainan, Taiwan (disputed), Hawaii, Tasmania, etc. 71.219.19.100 (talk) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- On a side note I could ask why older versions of current countries have their own articles, such as the Soviet Union or the Ottoman Empire have separate articles from the articles for Russia or Turkey, while current countries such as the People’s Republic of China or the Arab Republic of Egypt have the history of the entire region since ancient times. Or ask why the articles of those defunct countries have population data and other information which is frozen at the point at which they ended, the point being that Wikipedia could stand to be sorted out better than it is. But I won’t get sidetracked. 71.219.19.100 (talk) 01:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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