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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Salumi | 2 = salume | discuss = | reason = Singular form. | sig = [[User: JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk: JackkBrown|talk]]) 06:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC) | requester = JackkBrown}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Salumi | 2 = salume | discuss = | reason = Singular form. | sig = [[User: JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk: JackkBrown|talk]]) 06:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC) | requester = JackkBrown}} |
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*:Doesn't seem uncontroversial - ''salumi'' has much higher usage than ''salume''.[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=salumi%2Csalume&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3] And probably matches the usual ''salami'' rather than ''salame'' too. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 09:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
*:Doesn't seem uncontroversial - ''salumi'' has much higher usage than ''salume''.[https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=salumi%2Csalume&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3] And probably matches the usual ''salami'' rather than ''salame'' too. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 09:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
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**{{Ping|Amakuru}} all right, but "salami" (English word; in English the plural is mostly used for some words, and I still don't understand why; e.g. "[[Panini (sandwich)|panini]]") in Italian is "''salame''", while the singular of "salumi" is "salume". [[User: JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk: JackkBrown|talk]]) 10:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
**{{Ping|Amakuru}} all right, but "salami" (English word; in English the plural is mostly used for some words, and I still don't understand why; e.g. "[[Panini (sandwich)|panini]]") in Italian is "''salame''", while the singular of "''salumi''" is "''salume''". [[User: JackkBrown|JackkBrown]] ([[User talk: JackkBrown|talk]]) 10:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
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* {{RMassist/core | 1 = KFF Tirana AS | 2 = Tirana AS | discuss = | reason = The club's name has always been Tirana AS and shouldn't be confused with a different club which has a similar name, [[KFF Tirana]]. | sig = [[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] ([[User talk:Kj1595|talk]]) 17:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | requester = Kj1595}} |
* {{RMassist/core | 1 = KFF Tirana AS | 2 = Tirana AS | discuss = | reason = The club's name has always been Tirana AS and shouldn't be confused with a different club which has a similar name, [[KFF Tirana]]. | sig = [[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] ([[User talk:Kj1595|talk]]) 17:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | requester = Kj1595}} |
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*:@[[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] Are they different? [[KFF Tirana]] says they were previously named Tirana AS. Unless I'm mistaken, the AS page should be merged into the KFF Tirana one as they're largely redundant. <span class="nowrap">--[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</b>]])</span> 16:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC) |
*:@[[User:Kj1595|Kj1595]] Are they different? [[KFF Tirana]] says they were previously named Tirana AS. Unless I'm mistaken, the AS page should be merged into the KFF Tirana one as they're largely redundant. <span class="nowrap">--[[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User talk:Ahecht|<b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br />PAGE</b>]])</span> 16:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC) |
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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
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Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Salumi → salume (currently a redirect back to Salumi) (move · discuss) – Singular form. JackkBrown (talk) 06:50, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem uncontroversial - salumi has much higher usage than salume.[1] And probably matches the usual salami rather than salame too. — Amakuru (talk) 09:32, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: all right, but "salami" (English word; in English the plural is mostly used for some words, and I still don't understand why; e.g. "panini") in Italian is "salame", while the singular of "salumi" is "salume". JackkBrown (talk) 10:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- KFF Tirana AS (currently a redirect to Tirana AS) → Tirana AS (move · discuss) – The club's name has always been Tirana AS and shouldn't be confused with a different club which has a similar name, KFF Tirana. Kj1595 (talk) 17:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kj1595 Are they different? KFF Tirana says they were previously named Tirana AS. Unless I'm mistaken, the AS page should be merged into the KFF Tirana one as they're largely redundant. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)- I have yet to find a single Albanian source which refers to KFF Tirana as the successor club to AS Tirana. AS Tirana formed its own history, independent of KF Tirana. Not only in name but in the logo the club used. Kj1595 (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Fjorilda09, who added Tirana AS's statistics to the KFF Tirana page. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Fjorilda09, who added Tirana AS's statistics to the KFF Tirana page. --Ahecht (TALK
- I have yet to find a single Albanian source which refers to KFF Tirana as the successor club to AS Tirana. AS Tirana formed its own history, independent of KF Tirana. Not only in name but in the logo the club used. Kj1595 (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kj1595 Are they different? KFF Tirana says they were previously named Tirana AS. Unless I'm mistaken, the AS page should be merged into the KFF Tirana one as they're largely redundant. --Ahecht (TALK
- Demetrius I of Macedon (currently a redirect to Demetrius I Poliorcetes) → Demetrius I Poliorcetes (move · discuss) – WP uses the nickname for those Hellenistic Kings, see his father Antigonus I Monophtalmos, his son Antigonus II Gonatas, his foes Seleucus I Nikator or Ptolemy I Soter, the name of this page hasn't be updated since 2002 to reflect the practice that came into place on WP on that regard. AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)AgisdeSparte (talk) 10:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- 2022 Beijing Sitong Bridge protest → Beijing Sitong Bridge protest (currently a redirect back to 2022 Beijing Sitong Bridge protest) (move · discuss) – Undiscussed and unnecessary move Amigao (talk) 00:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Amigao you should be able to move this back by yourself? – robertsky (talk) 02:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Amigao: Technically the request to revert an undiscussed move is valid, but OTOH I think the present title is the correct one per naming conventions at WP:NCE. We only omit the year if it's a widely-known event that is clear without a year. — Amakuru (talk) 10:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- Meath (currently a redirect to County Meath) → Meath (disambiguation) (move · discuss) – It should be made a disambiguation page so Meath can be redirected to County Meath, which is the primary topic. TwinBoo (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Probably worth a discussion, as the historical Kingdom of Meath clearly has a long-term significance as well. Navigation statistics show that around 30% of viewers on the dab page go there, which is reasonably high given that County Meath is a current extant county where people live... Might be worth a discussion? — Amakuru (talk) 15:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still, usually “Meath” simply refers to the county so I’d assume it would be the primary topic, but I’ll make a discussion if necessary. —TwinBoo (talk) 11:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly TwinBoo, a community consensus after discussion is the best option. Are you opting in for that? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose moving, for that matter. The kingdom definitely has long-term significance, and "Meath", as a historical entity, doesn't have the current subdivision as its primary topic. Meath was also one of the historical provinces of Ireland (although their extent fluctuated over time), so I'm surprised that isn't also mentioned in the dab. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly TwinBoo, a community consensus after discussion is the best option. Are you opting in for that? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Still, usually “Meath” simply refers to the county so I’d assume it would be the primary topic, but I’ll make a discussion if necessary. —TwinBoo (talk) 11:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Probably worth a discussion, as the historical Kingdom of Meath clearly has a long-term significance as well. Navigation statistics show that around 30% of viewers on the dab page go there, which is reasonably high given that County Meath is a current extant county where people live... Might be worth a discussion? — Amakuru (talk) 15:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- 1980 Pondicherry Legislative Assembly election → 1980 Puducherry Legislative Assembly election (currently a redirect back to 1980 Pondicherry Legislative Assembly election) (move · discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 04:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Contesting this. The territory was not known as Puducherry in 1980, so it seems like the present title is the correct one. I'm also reverting similar moves made by the same OP for other years. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 10:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Kerma kingdom (currently a redirect to Kerma culture) → Kingdom of Kerma (currently a redirect instead to Kerma culture) (move · discuss) – in line with rest of page Alexanderkowal (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Alexanderkowal Just a note that the title prior to your move, Kerma culture, has historically been the much more common phrase per Google Ngrams, and remains the more common phrase in British english, so this may be an WP:ENGVAR issue where the title should've remained at Kerma culture. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)- The article is on the kingdom (political history) not the society (social history) and the info box has Kingdom of Kerma. I think calling it a culture reduces it, Kerma’s size was as big as the Old Kingdom of Egypt. Nubia has often been overlooked, much more so in the 20th century Alexanderkowal (talk) 08:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Alexanderkowal Just a note that the title prior to your move, Kerma culture, has historically been the much more common phrase per Google Ngrams, and remains the more common phrase in British english, so this may be an WP:ENGVAR issue where the title should've remained at Kerma culture. --Ahecht (TALK
- Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) → Moskva-Siti (Moscow Metro) (move · discuss) – The station was officially renamed on 31 March 2024 212.3.130.205 (talk) 15:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about Moscow-City (Moscow Metro), in line with Moscow-City? 162 etc. (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Names of metro stations are usually not translated: Ploshchad Revolyutsii, Park Pobedy, Slavyansky Bulvar, ..., so I think we should follow the trend. 212.3.130.205 (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- How about Moscow-City (Moscow Metro), in line with Moscow-City? 162 etc. (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to contested until we hear back (need consensus if there are alternatives suggested) ASUKITE 17:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)