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Category:Mix networks

Propose deleting Category:Mix networks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: I'm struggling to figure out how to use this category effectively. There appears to be very robust academic study and categorization of mix networks, see for example A Survey on Mix Networks and Their Secure Applications. However I'm struggling to find sources that classify the type of application found in this category, e.g. EDonkey network as a mix network.

The articles currently or plausibly contained within this category are already included in or directly, so proposing delete instead of merge. Brandon (talk) 17:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Models from London by borough

Propose deleting Category:Models from London by borough (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

merging categories

Propose merging Category:Models from the City of Westminster to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Wandsworth to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Waltham Forest to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Southwark to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Redbridge to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Newham to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Merton to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Lewisham to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Lambeth to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Islington to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Hounslow to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Hillingdon to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Havering to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Harrow to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Haringey to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Hackney to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the Royal Borough of Greenwich to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Enfield to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Ealing to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Croydon to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Camden to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Bromley to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Brent to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Bexley to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Barnet to Category:Models from London
Propose merging Category:Models from the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham to Category:Models from London

Nominator's rationale: Merge/Delete per WP:OCLOCATION Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it be a dual merge to both parent categories? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I was planning to slowly phase out the "People by Royal/London Borough of Foo" categories. Its quite different from the New York City boroughs (not least that there are far more of those) and, as far as I can tell, most of the people categorized by London borough are, more of than not, from there.
In fact, I was going to suggest a purge of anyone who is not originally from London. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I wouldn't oppose that, but until there has been a discussion about it it should still be a dual merge. Suppose consensus is against the idea, then borough categories ought to remain properly populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:First women admitted to degrees at Oxford

Propose deleting Category:First women admitted to degrees at Oxford (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: While ~~notable~~ interesting, I'd say this is trivial. Perhaps Listify. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Keep: Not sure how anything can be admittedly notable and also trivial, but since I agree the topic is undoubtedly notable, it's a reasonable topic for both categories and articles. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Chiswick Chap, I was going for the word "interesting" and have updated my rationale to reflect that. But we don't categorize by degrees. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, we categorize by occupation, not by admission to education. Besides "first" is quite subjective. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eponymous Formula One driver categories

Included in this nomination are the following categories:

Propose deleting Category:Nico Rosberg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Kimi Räikkönen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Max Verstappen (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Sebastian Vettel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: These single-article (minus the eponymous article) Formula One driver eponymous categories are unnecessary per WP:OCEPON. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as the contents do not justify a category. – Fayenatic London 12:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, a link in the article text or in a See also section will suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings and structures by decade 530s‎-990s

Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 530s (1 C) to Category:530s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 540s‎ (1 C) to Category:540s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 560s‎ (1 C) to Category:560s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 570s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:570s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 6th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 580s‎ (1 C) to Category:580s establishments

more categories nominated

Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 590s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:590s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 6th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 600s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:600s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 610s‎ (1 C) to Category:610s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 620s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:620s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 630s‎ (1 C) to Category:630s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 640s‎ (1 C) to Category:640s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 650s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:650s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 660s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:660s establishments Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 670s‎ (1 C) to Category:670s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 680s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:680s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 7th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 690s‎ (1 C) to Category:690s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 700s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:700s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 710s‎ (1 C, 4 P) to Category:710s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 720s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:720s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 730s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:730s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 740s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:740s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 750s‎ (1 C) to Category:750s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 760s‎ (1 C, 3 P) to Category:760s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 770s‎ (1 C, 3 P) to Category:770s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 780s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:780s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 790s‎ (1 C, 3 P) to Category:790s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 8th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 800s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:800s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 810s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:810s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 820s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:820s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 9th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 830s‎ (1 C, 2 P) to Category:830s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 840s‎ (1 C) to Category:840s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 850s‎ (1 C) to Category:850s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 860s‎ (1 C) to Category:860s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 870s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:870s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 9th century
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 880s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:880s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 890s‎ (1 C) to Category:890s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 900s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:900s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 910s‎ (1 C, 3 P) to Category:910s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 10th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 920s‎ (1 C) to Category:920s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 930s‎ (1 C) to Category:930s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 940s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:940s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 950s‎ (1 C) to Category:950s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 960s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:960s establishments and Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 10th century
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 970s‎ (1 C) to Category:970s establishments
Propose manually merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 980s‎ (1 C, 1 P) to Category:980s establishments
Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 990s‎ (1 C) to Category:990s establishments

Nominator's rationale: merge, in this period this is a redundant category layer with only occasional articles next to the religious buildings subcategory. The articles need to be moved manually because some of them are already in e.g. a fortifications by century subcategory or in an establishments by year subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Old style serif typefaces

Propose renaming Category:Old style serif typefaces to Category:Venetian serif typefaces and removing any articles that are already in both Category:Transitional serif typefaces and Category:Old style serif typefaces from the Category:Old style serif typefaces (as it's redundant).

Nominator's Rationale: In Vox-ATypI classification#Classicals, Old style serif typefaces can be categorized into 3 subclasses. All of these 3 subclasses has their own categories in French Wikipedia. However, only 2 out of 3 of those French Wikipedia categories has a corresponding category in English Wikipedia:

Venetian (fr:Catégorie:Police d'écriture humane, currently corresponding to Category:Old style serif typefaces)
Garalde (fr:Catégorie:Police d'écriture garalde, currently corresponding to newly-created Category:Garalde serif typefaces)
Transitional (fr:Catégorie:Police d'écriture réale, currently corresponding to Category:Transitional serif typefaces)

I suggest that the Category:Old style serif typefaces be renamed to Category:Venetian serif typefaces. Also, I proposes that any articles that are already in both Category:Transitional serif typefaces and Category:Old style serif typefaces be removed from the Category:Old style serif typefaces (as it's redundant).Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉edits 04:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Blythwood: given your earlier contributions noted on the talk page, can you comment on this, please? I am not familiar with the topic, but I think your comment there implies that the nomination is correct. – Fayenatic London 11:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – thanks for pinging me. Garalde and Venetian are sub-genres of old-style types, but they aren't all-encompassing. Designs like Trinité or Arno may not neatly fit into either genre (something the specimen comments on, see page 6). So I think "Old style serif typefaces" is worth retaining as a main category with Garalde and Venetian as subcategories. Blythwood (talk) 15:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we're keeping both Garalde and Venetian categories as subcategories of old-style serif typefaces, then I suggest that Category:Transitional serif typefaces be another subcategory of old-style serif typefaces as well. Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉edits 17:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 00:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mid-Ohio Conference football templates

Propose renaming Category:American Mideast Conference football templates to Category:Mid-Ohio Conference football templates
Propose renaming Category:American Mideast Conference football standings templates to Category:Mid-Ohio Conference football standings templates

Nominator's rationale: The American Mideast Conference last sponsored football in 1970 when the conference was known as the Mid-Ohio Conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Registrars of the Order of the Garter

Propose renaming Category:Registrars of the Order of the Garter to Category:Registers of the Order of the Garter
Nominator's rationale: In the Order of the Garter, there is no, and has seemingly never been an, office of 'Registrar'; it appears always to have been 'Register', and this is explained in the article with a citation link. ZeroAlpha87 (talk) 18:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of Malaysia since Independence

Propose renaming Category:History of Malaysia since Independence to Category:Contemporary history of Malaysia

Nominator's rationale: rename per parent Category:Contemporary history by country that I just added. Else at least change "Independence" to "independence". Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling change - what might seem contemporary in some contexts may not be understood clearly as to the specific starting point is actually contemporary or not JarrahTree 08:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:History of Malaysia (1957–present). That matches most other categories in Category:Contemporary history by country. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 16:01, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LaundryPizza03: we already have Category:History of Malaysia (1945–1963) so it is probably better to rename the nominated category to Category:History of Malaysia (1963–present). I do not have objections to this format. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a weirdly empty category (perhaps a wider look is needed at this whole tree), but 1963 is an easier date to start from given Category:History of Malaya would apply until that date. CMD (talk) 02:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any more comments on the alt rename?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 10:41, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For info, I have added decades as subcategories so that this category is now somewhat better populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target still needs to be decided upon.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree and LaundryPizza03: what are your thoughts on Category:History of Malaysia (1963–present)? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at both the Indonesian and Malaysian history timelines and the organisation of the periods of time,

the suggested name with date-present is ok. JarrahTree 08:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Phobias

Propose splitting Category:Phobias to Category:Phobias and Category:Prejudice and discrimination

Nominator's rationale: This category contains both anxiety disorders such as claustrophobia and forms of prejudice such as mormonophobia (a redirect to anti-Mormonism). I would like to remove the latter from this category and place them instead in (appropriate sub-categories of) Category:Prejudice and discrimination. gnu 57 20:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Genericusername57: apparently a few articles have been misclassified. That doesn't even require a discussion, just go ahead with recategorizing them. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Marcocapelle: Done gnu 57 19:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Genericusername57: I agree that, e.g., mormonophobia has attributes that claustrophobia does not, but I also think that it is not random chance that words like "mormonophobia" contain "phobia". Many of these prejudices originated with and continue to be based upon substantial amounts of irrational fear. For example, when it has something to do with sexuality or gender (e.g., homophobia, transphobia), there is a substantial element of irrational fear that the feared individuals will groom, assault, or otherwise be harmful to children. What do you think about double listing homophobia, transphobia, mormonophobia, and similar as both Category:Phobias and Category:Prejudice and discrimination? — $Q$ uantling (talk | contribs) 19:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The immediate proposal has been WP:BOLDly adopted (as it did not actually require a CFD to take place), but the D in CFD is for discussion and I am relisting so that User:Quantling's point can be discussed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phobia is a medical term, so I do not agree that articles like Homophobia are added to Category:Phobias. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:DVD interactive technology

Propose renaming Category:DVD interactive technology to Category:DVD games

Nominator's rationale: More common name, I don't hear "DVD interactive technology" as often. Also, the original name omits the usage of "games". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 05:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If renamed, Nuon (DVD technology) should be purged. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Many games come on DVD, so this proposed title is too vague to ever work. Honestly I'd just say Delete unless the nominator can articulate what makes these games special. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, please do not remove this category. DVD interactive technology is a thing, as stated in this section of Interactive film. I would need to do a manual purge by creating a new category called "DVD games" if really wanted to do that by the way. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 01:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with deletion, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Populated places disestablished in New Brunswick in 2023

Propose renaming Category:Populated places disestablished in New Brunswick in 2023 to Category:Populated places disestablished due to the 2023 New Brunswick local governance reform

Nominator's rationale: All of these relate to a single government reform in this year. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit odd. The places haven't been disestablished but the local governments have. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 00:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hispanic and Latino American socialists

Propose deleting Category:Hispanic and Latino American socialists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between specific ethnicity and specific political orientation, per egrs Mason (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==== NEW NOMINATIONS ====
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+==== Category:Mix networks ====
+:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Mix networks}}
+:'''Nominator's rationale:''' I'm struggling to figure out how to use this category effectively. There appears to be ''very'' robust academic study and categorization of mix networks, see for example [https://ieeexplore-ieee-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/document/4077263 A Survey on Mix Networks and Their Secure Applications]. However I'm struggling to find sources that classify the type of application found in this category, e.g. [[EDonkey network]] as a mix network.
+The articles currently or plausibly contained within this category are already included in [[Category:Key-based routing]] or [[Category:Anonymity networks]] directly, so proposing delete instead of merge. [[User:Brandon|Brandon]] ([[User talk:Brandon|talk]]) 17:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 ==== Category:Models from London by borough ====
 :* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Models from London by borough}}