User talk:6afraidof7

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Correct procedure for moving pages

Hi, I noticed you recently moved the page Babylon 5 Novels, novelizations, short stories, and comic books to Babylon 5 novels, short stories and comic books. While I agree wholeheartedly with the move, the procedure you used resulted in a couple of problems. By cutting and pasting information from an existing article to a new article, editors who have the old page name on their watchlist won't end up with the new page name on it. Secondly, and most importantly, the article history remains at the old article. Wikipedia's GDFL (essentially the copyright licence) requires that a record of all amendments to an article are kept with it, to allow proper attribution to the editors involved. This proper attribution is lost when doing a cut-and-paste move. The histories of the two articles named above have now been fixed, but the correct way of doing it in future is by simply clicking the "Move" tab at the top of the page and entering the new name of the article. For further information on page moves, see this help page. I hope this is of some use to you. All the best, Steve ^{T • C} 13:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Victor Salva

Hi! I'm curious why you removed Victor Salva from List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sa-Sc? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 22:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason I removed Victor Salva from the list is because he isn't gay, he's a peadophile, so not only is it only incorrect to include him, but also quite an insult. Permitting a convicted child molestor an entry in an anthology of the world's most prominent homosexual people conveys a negative image of homosexuality as a whole, which was why I hastened to delete him. Forgive me if I broke some rule.

Yours,

--6afraidof7 (talk) 23:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, 6afraidof7!

The reason I put Salva back in the list is that he is described in several reliable sources as "openly gay". You can see a couple of them here and in the book "Nature Boy" by M. L. Zambrana (p 92). So while Salva may be a pedophile, he's also gay and his name should stay on the list.

Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

You cannot be gay and a peadophile, that's why I removed him from the list in the first place; I hated the idea of people being given the impression that perversity and homosexuality are one and the same, co-exsisting together side by side. However, I shan't interfere with your decision to re-include him - you've obviously been around on this website a lot longer than I have - I just thought I should put my point across before acquiescing.

Yours,

--6afraidof7 (talk) 02:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ummm.. actually yes, you can be gay and a pedophile. It's true that most pedophiles identify as heterosexual (even when their victims are same-sex), but there are definitely gay pedophiles. I think I understand where you're coming from here, but you're just not correct. Prince of Canada ^{t | c} 14:39, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Per your response on my page... 'illogical' isn't the same as 'doesn't happen'. Many pedophiles express sexual interest in both adults and children. Not all, of course; there are many who are simply incapable of sexual arousal with adults. But, and this is key, pedophiles don't simply have sex with children indiscriminately; most have more or less specific age and gender requirements. Or to be even more general: of course it's possible to be attracted to multiple age groups. One friend of mine (and yes, anecdote is not the singular of data) is both attracted to guys his own age (mid-20's), and men significantly older (50's), and not much in between. Pedophiles--at least, those who also enjoy adults--simply shift that downwards by a couple of decades. Again, I see where you're coming from, but you're coming from a place of belief, rather than fact. By your logic bisexuality wouldn't exist, because it too is illogical. Prince of Canada ^{t | c} 15:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Per your second response... like I said, I know where you're coming from. As a gay man, that association is something that irritates me too. But facts are facts, however we feel about them, alas. Prince of Canada ^{t | c} 16:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, 6afraidof7! While I am distasteful of the idea of readers equating pedophilia with homosexuality, it's simply not true that you "cannot be gay and a pedophile". It is most certainly possible. The two don't have much in common, since pedophilia is more about power over another individual (regardless of the genders involved), but popular culture has linked the two. I don't like supporting that link, but the encyclopedia should be factual, and in this case he's gay *and* a pedophile.

Thanks again for participating! I don't know if you're interested or not, but you might want to pop on by the LGBT WikiProject? If you *are* interested, sign up - we'd love to have your input in the project! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to the LGBT WikiProject!

Hi, 6afraidof7, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification. Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there. If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Title formatting

Hi 6afraidof7, I've seen some of your recent edits and thought I should remind you to read the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Specifically note that episodes of television shows should be in quotation marks whereas movie and book titles should be italicized as is explained in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting). I've reverted some of your edits to correct the formatting. Good luck and happy editing. Stardust8212 16:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Wycliffe

Hi; hope you don't mind me following along behind you and adding a link, infoboxes, et cetera. If you're interested in the Crime Task Force, you'd be very welcome to join; let me know if I can help you with that. Thanks for these useful additions! Accounting4Taste:talk 18:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. The best information about the Crime Task Force can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Crime task force; it's a subset of the Novels Wikiproject. Just a bunch of us who have an interest in detective fiction who try to add new articles, like you're doing, and/or clean up/improve existing ones. If you have any questions, let me know. You will find the appropriate infobox on my user page, if you're interested in joining us. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hell, I don't think any of us are what you'd call professional -- just enthusiastic. If your favourite author is Burley, well, then, that will be your contribution. (And if I see that you're going to make a page for each of the Wycliffe novels, I'll chip in and create a navbox for them -- like the one at the bottom of any novel by Agatha Christie or John Dickson Carr). And if you like other authors, and they're under-represented, then go for it. Do you live somewhere where you could have seen the episodes on TV? They were on in Canada briefly. Anyway, welcome aboard and if you have any questions, I'm at your service. Accounting4Taste:talk 20:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Burley isn't my favourite either, but there are plenty of authors who need work. If you're in the mood to improve a page rather than create one, have a look at Ellery Queen, which I hope someday will be GA or FA... but I'm betting you can also think of an author who's completely article-less here who needs an entry. If you need a bibliographic citation, let me know; I own a copy of Hubin, a very useful authority. BTW, our mutual interests have another point of intersection -- check out Donald Strachey. Accounting4Taste:talk 20:10, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the jargon. GA = "good article" and FA = "feature article" -- or, the article on the front page for a day. I believe you will be able to find a list of LGBT detectives by tracking a category through Donald Strachey, but frankly there are not many good ones. Joseph Hansen is perhaps the best writer of the bunch. Let me know if you want a list of recommendations (I used to run a mystery bookstore so I have this kind of information available). Accounting4Taste:talk 20:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Frances Crane

I just added the cover art scans that I mentioned the other day -- you may get a kick out of them. Better appreciate them quickly, since my inexperience with uploading and potential copyright problems suggests that they might not be around for long <sigh>. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note -- yeah, they are great, aren't they? The cover artist, Rudolph Belarski, is a favourite of mine. He came from the pulp magazine milieu and made the switch to paperbacks in the 1940s and, yes, he was the artist who came as close to the line as the law allowed with respect to nipples. In the "vintage paperback" field, there are lots of collectors of what's called "good girl art" or GGA, and a sub-category of that is the "nipple cover" -- all the good nipple covers are Belarskis. If you're curious, go on to abebooks.com and search for Belarski cover art -- the two paperbacks I scanned for the Crane article might set you back $50, and a mint copy of "The Private Life of Helen of Troy", his most infamous nipple cover, would be $75 or so. I'll see if the Helen McCloy article needs to be illustrated with a scan of "The Doll's Trunk Murders", which is both a nipple cover and a bondage cover. I was very kindly helped out by a well-informed user with respect to arranging the copyright issues, so these all might last a little longer than I was pessimistically expecting. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Agatha Christie

Please could you advise why you keep on deleting the paragraph on the Agatha Christie page regarding The Murder of Roger Ackroyd and Endless Night? Thank you.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the reply. Wikipedia does have a spoiler policy which can be read at Wikipedia:Spoiler. Basically it is the convention of the site that it contains unmarked spoilers so for pages on crime fiction or television series with dramatic surprise endings the reader should be beware before reading the page. I've only added a few bits to the main Christie page - so it wasn't my work in the first place - and I intend to do a full rewrite soon. Its textual description is too brief, it has too few references and its lists are too long.--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Friesland

You might consider joining WikiProject Friesland for we allways need more participants. -The Bold Guy- (talk) 17:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Date links

Have you read MOS:SYL? Only I note you are adding date links to articles - they are now longer used and should be removed.--UpDown (talk) 07:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I know I always thought the same, and was surprised when people started removing them! Should have been more well advertised in my opinion.--UpDown (talk) 13:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Links to nationality

When you wikilink a person's nationality, please check to be sure it goes to the most precise page. For example, the link on Lindsay Lohan should be a piped link like this: [[United States|American]]. The one you did for Samantha Ronson is even more imprecise. Look at where the link to English goes; a disambiguation page. Much better to link as [[England|English]]. That prevents wasting Wikipedia's resources, speeds up things for the reader, and saves time for those of us who have to fix the links. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 16:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe the reason you continue adding incorrect links is that I didn't explain clearly. Is there something about piped links you don't understand? I'll be happy to try to explain in more detail. Ward3001 (talk) 20:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Where have I continued to make incorrect links?

Just one, here. But no problem. Just wanted to be sure you understood the process. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 01:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Patricia Highsmith

Hi. I see your edits every once in a while to this article. She'd make a great article someday if someone really enjoyed her writing took it over and went nuts all over it. I rewrote the article for Marijane Meaker (and still need to work on it). Highsmith appears to have lived a very complicated life. I'm drawn to ambiguity, and it would be a fascinating read to have a beautifully written article about an genius author who can't maintain relationships and spewed anti-Semitic stuff (according to Meaker). Let me know if you're interested in getting to FA status at all. Think on it. --Moni3 (talk) 20:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I have your talk page watched, so you and I can chat here to keep the conversation together. An FA is a Featured Article here on Wikipedia. Articles that appear on the main page are FAs. They are the most comprehensive, well-written, and most difficult articles to write. Articles on literature are particularly difficult. But they are also the most rewarding. I think Highsmith is a very worthy candidate for an FA, but her article clearly needs someone who loves the subject very much, including her books. I'm not very familiar with Highsmith's writings, but I'm a huge proponent of passion-based editing: if there's enough love in an editor to read everything available on a topic, then an FA is a matter of getting hold of the material, making sure the writing is brilliant, and adhering to the Manual of Style. I can assist you with the material. I have access to a university library. I can also help with style and prose issues. But if you're the one who loves Highsmith's books, you're the one to do most of the work. You could, essentially, form the most widely read source of information on Patricia Highsmith. Scary? What do you think? --Moni3 (talk) 22:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I must admit the prospect does sound endearing, and I'd be more than happy to read all of her novels again (I think I would have to in order to even consider such a gargantuan project), but I'm just a bookworm and not really experienced with the internet, especially on a website that's relied upon by possibly thousands of people. I can write reasonably well and have more than enough passion for the subject, but shouldn't someone more techincally qaulified take on this task? --6afraidof7 (talk) 22:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Technically qualified, poop. Someone who loves her books should take it on. The rest you will learn as you go. When I first go on to Wikipedia, I could barely make heads or tails of the user pages and the way editors communicated with each other. It was unlike any format I had ever seen. The gargantuan Manual of Style made me log off and hide for a week. Just trying to ask a simple question was so daunting it was easier not to deal with it. But I don't know what happened - I just came back and kept picking at stuff like a scab. As I got more familiar, I noticed that some articles were significantly better than others. I wanted my articles to be like that. Writing a Featured Article is like stacking 300 decks of cards that have been sprayed all over the place. As you stack them you have to neaten the stack constantly. What's most important is the content is accurate, it's neutral, it reflects the majority of material written about Highsmith, and it uses the best authority of sources about her. If you can agree to that, then I'll agree to come poke the cards back into the stack that stick out due to prose issues, brilliance in writing, citation formatting, and the other technical things I've run into in the articles I've written and reviewed. There are other editors who love literature and have extraordinarily high standards for FAs. If you know your stuff and are willing to take their advice, they'll be glad to give it. --Moni3 (talk) 22:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

For a project this size I'd need at least several weeks of compiling information and re-reading her work etc., but as long as my own personal knowledge of and love for her prose is enough qualification, I'd be more than willing to take on the task. I'll start collecting material this weekend, if that's okay, and maybe try drafting some biographical background on my laptop, then see how it goes. --6afraidof7 (talk) 23:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

(Here's a technical tip: put a colon in front of your responses on Wikipedia. They kind of indent to the right as they go on. I did the first few. When you're at half an inch or so from the right margin, you can unindent by announcing <outdent> at the beginning of your comment.)

Otherwise, yes, you'll be gathering a lot of information about Highsmith from biographers and literary analysts, critics, etc. What I'll do is take a peek at the MLA database to see what kinds of articles, chapters, books, etc. you should look at. I may have access to some of these, but you should also check your local library. If you are near a college or university, their libraries are the best. Local libraries also have Interlibrary Loan departments where you can get stuff from other library systems if you want something the library doesn't have. Give nice things to your librarians because they like to help. I've also bought some books for wicked cheap on Amazon, used book stores, etc. Don't be daunted by my experiences, but it took me 10 months from the day I decided to overhaul To Kill a Mockingbird and get it featured to the day it was promoted. A lot of that was becoming familiar with the sources I had at my disposal and how to find them, as well as gaining familiarity with Wikipedia itself and what it requires in a literature article. Later articles, such as Stonewall riots that just got promoted, took me a couple weeks to collect everything and get the article in some kind of functional order.

Not only will you be doing her biography, but compiling what critics and analysts have said about her work. Even stuff you disagree with - it goes in. When I started on my first article I thought I knew just about everything there was to know about it. As I kept reading, I got more and more confused because what more I read contradicted what I thought I knew, and it was all reliable, so what gives? When I read absolutely everything, I realized I didn't know anything. It was at that point I knew I was probably ready to get my article featured. By the way... my first featured article, Ann Bannon, was seeing Marijane Meaker when Meaker became involved with Highsmith. There's a story in there that rocked my socks, but not one I would put in her article just yet. --Moni3 (talk) 23:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the colon tip. I'll be going away this weekend and during that time I'll start collecting books for study; once again, this may take a while as I also have other projects that need attention, and as you yourself inferred, one hell of a lot of reading is required when creating an article this size and of such high calibre. Maybe I will discover things about Miss Highsmith I never knew before - in all honesty, I relish the experience. BTW, I wasn't aware Meaker had been having an affair with Bannon. To be honest I was never really a fan of the former author, and disliked the way she capitalised on her and Highsmith's relationship for her book A Romance of the 1950's. Still, everyone has a different opinion, and as you said in your response, even stuff one disagrees with is important for the development of a fair and impartial article. --6afraidof7 (talk) 00:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sources for Highsmith

Don't freak out. This is a just a list of what is available. One step at a time. Some of these aren't even in English. --Moni3 (talk) 00:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• 1.Stranger and Stranger: Hitchcock and Male EnvyPreview By: Nicholson, Mervyn; Bright Lights Film Journal, 2007 Feb; 55: (no pagination). (journal article)
• 2. Violent Affect: Literature, Cinema, and Critique after RepresentationPreview By: Abel, Marco. Lincoln, NE: U of Nebraska P; 2007. xix, 292 pp. (book)
• 3. The Interaction between Grammar and Discourse: Speech-Event Determined Use of QuestionsPreview By: Portero Muñoz, Carmen. pp. 37-49 IN: Guerrero Medina, Pilar (ed. and preface); Martínez Jurado, Estela (ed. and preface); Where Grammar Meets Discourse: Functional and Cognitive Perspectives. Córdoba, Spain: Universidad de Córdoba; 2006. 150 pp. (book article)
• 4. Patricia Highsmith By: Stenger, Karl L.. pp. 144-61 IN: Anderson, George Parker (ed. and introd.); American Mystery and Detective Writers. Detroit, MI: Gale; 2005. xxii, 475 pp. (book article)
• 5. Desire-Less-NessPreview By: Peters, Fiona. pp. 123-34 IN: Breen, Margaret Sönser (ed. and preface); Peters, Fiona (ed. and preface); Genealogies of Identity: Interdisciplinary Readings on Sex and Sexuality. Amsterdam, Netherlands: Rodopi; 2005. xv, 266 pp. (book article)
• 6. Wilde OnePreview By: Jarraway, David; GLQ: A Journal of Lesbian and Gay Studies, 2005; 11 (2): 319-21. (journal article)
• 7. Masculine Identity and Success: A Critical Analysis of Patricia Highsmith's The Talented Mr. Ripley and Chuck Palahniuk's Fight ClubPreview By: Tuss, Alex; Journal of Men's Studies: A Scholarly Journal about Men and Masculinities, 2004 Winter; 12 (2): 93-102. (journal article)
• 8. Patricia Highsmith und die Macht des positiven DenkensPreview By: Bahners, Patrick; Merkur: Deutsche Zeitschrift für Europäisches Denken, 2004 July; 58 (7 [663]): 569-79. (journal article)
• 9. Adaptation as Forgery: The Case of The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Golsan, Katherine; Post Script: Essays in Film and the Humanities, 2004 Summer; 23 (3): 19-35. (journal article)
• 10. Plein soleil and The Talented Mr Ripley: Sun, Stars and Highsmith's Queer PeripheryPreview By: Williams, Michael; Journal of Romance Studies, 2004 Spring; 4 (1): 47-62. (journal article)
• 11. Hitchcock and Kafka: Expressionist Themes in Strangers on a TrainPreview By: Dellolio, Peter J.; Midwest Quarterly: A Journal of Contemporary Thought, 2004 Spring; 45 (3): 240-55. (journal article)
• 12. 'Where Was the Sex?' Fetishism and Dirty Minds in Patricia Highsmith's The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Shannon, Edward A.; Modern Language Studies, 2004 Spring-Fall; 34 (1-2): 16-27. (journal article)
• 13. Reality Catches Up to Highsmith's Hard-Boiled Fiction By: Cassuto, Leonard; Chronicle of Higher Education, 2004 Feb 20; 50 (24): B12. (journal article)
• 14. Ripley's Game and The American Friend: A Modernist and Postmodernist ComparisonPreview By: Cook, William A.; Journal of Popular Culture, 2004 Feb; 37 (3): 399-408. (journal article)
• 15. Personality RightsPreview By: Wilson, Andrew. pp. 7-14 IN: Bostridge, Mark (ed. and preface); Lives for Sale: Biographers' Tales. London, England: Continuum; 2004. xvi, 220 pp. (book article)
• 16. Dorian Gray, Tom Ripley, and the Queer ClosetPreview By: Alexander, Jonathan; CLCWeb: Comparative Literature and Culture: A WWWeb Journal, 2003 Dec; 5 (4): [no pagination]. (journal article)
• 17. A Literature of Suspicion: Critiques of Nineteen Fifties Ideals in the American Roman NoirPreview By: Lukin, Joshua Benjamin; Dissertation Abstracts International, Section A: The Humanities and Social Sciences, 2003 Nov; 64 (5): 1657. State U of New York, Buffalo, 2003. (dissertation abstract)
• 18. Fanshawe's GhostPreview By: Tyree, J. M.; New England Review: Middlebury Series, 2003 Summer; 24 (3): 76-77. (journal article)
• 19. The Psychopathology of Everyday (American) Life in Patricia Highsmith's The Cry of the OwlPreview By: Payne, Kenneth; Notes on Contemporary Literature, 2003 May; 33 (3): 10-12. (journal article)
• 20. The Contraction of the Heart: Anxiety, Radical Evil and Proximity in Patricia Highsmith's Ripley NovelsPreview By: Peters, Fiona. pp. 189-208 IN: Waddell, Terrie (ed. and introd.); Cultural Expressions of Evil and Wickedness: Wrath, Sex, Crime. Amsterdam, Netherlands: Rodopi; 2003. xvi, 223 pp. (book article)
• 21. McCarthyism and Cold War America in Patricia Highsmith's The Blunderer (1954)Preview By: Payne, Kenneth; McNeese Review, 2003; 41: 76-84. (journal article)
• 22. Tom Ripley's American Way of Life in Patricia Highsmith's The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Payne, Kenneth; Lamar Journal of the Humanities, 2002 Fall; 27 (2): 33-41. (journal article)
• 23. 'Upward and Onward!'-Thomas Phelps Ripley, the American Immigrant in The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Payne, Kenneth; Notes on Contemporary Literature, 2002 Sept; 32 (4): 8-10. (journal article)
• 24. The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Bruzzi, Stella; EnterText: An Interactive Interdisciplinary E-Journal for Cultural and Historical Studies and Creative Work, 2001 Spring; 1 (2): 6-31. (journal article)
• 25. The Talented Poststructuralist: Heteromasculinity, Gay Artifice, and Class PassingPreview By: Straayer, Chris. pp. 115-32 IN: Lehman, Peter (ed. and introd.); Masculinity: Bodies, Movies, Culture. New York, NY: Routledge; 2001. 318 pp. (book article)
• 26. Ripley GamesPreview By: Gardner, Geoff; Senses of Cinema: An Online Film Journal Devoted to the Serious and Eclectic Discussion of Cinema, 2000 May; 6: (no pagination). (journal article)
• 27. Le Talentueux Mr. Ripley (The Talented Mr. Ripley), un film de Anthony MinghellaPreview By: Levergeois, Bertrand (ed. and introd.); Avant Scène Cinéma, 2000 Apr; 491: 1-236. (journal article)
• 28. Anthony Minghella: EntretienPreview By: Fredric, Claire; Avant Scène Cinéma, 2000 Apr; 491: 201-08. (journal article)
• 29. René Clément: EntretienPreview By: Eyquem, Olivier; Avant Scène Cinéma, 2000 Apr; 491: 221-33. (journal article)
• 30. The Subversive Ms. HighsmithPreview By: Bronski, Michael; Gay & Lesbian Review Worldwide, 2000 Spring; 7 (2): 13-16. (journal article)
• 31. The Talented Mister: An Interview with Anthony MinghellaPreview By: Argent, Daniel; Creative Screenwriting, 2000 Jan-Feb; 7 (1): 63-67. (journal article)
• 32. Script Review: The Talented Mr. RipleyPreview By: Argent, Daniel; Creative Screenwriting, 2000 Jan-Feb; 7 (1): 68-70. (journal article)
• 33. Patricia Highsmith By: Mawer, Noel Dorman. pp. 503-16 IN: Winks, Robin W. (ed. and introd.); Corrigan, Maureen (ed.); Mystery and Suspense Writers: The Literature of Crime, Detection, and Espionage, I-II. New York, NY: Scribner's; 1998. xiv, 631 + 1296 pp. (book article)
• 34. 'Some Torture That Perversely Eased': Patricia Highsmith and the Everyday Schizophrenia of American Life By: Cochran, David; Clues: A Journal of Detection, 1997 Fall-Winter; 18 (2): 157-80. (journal article)
• 35. Patricia Highsmith By: Harrison, Russell. New York, NY: Twayne; 1997. xvi, 159 pp. (book)
• 36. Fantasmi jamesiani nel post-modernoPreview By: Ascari, Maurizio; Poetiche: Letteratura e Altro, 1996; 2: 57-68. (journal article)
• 37. Stranger Than Fiction By: Peters, Brooks; Out, 1995 June; 70, 72, 150. (journal article)
• 38. A Train Running on Two Sets of Tracks: Highsmith's and Hitchcock's Strangers on a TrainPreview By: Mahoney, MaryKay. pp. 103-14 IN: Reynolds, William (ed.); Trembley, Elizabeth A. (ed. & introd.); It's a Print!: Detective Fiction from Page to Screen. Bowling Green, OH: Popular; 1994. 235 pp. (book article)
• 39. 'Put It into Words': Insular Dream and Nightmarish Insularity in Edith's Diary by Patricia HighsmithPreview By: Calanchi, Alessandra; Letterature d'America: Rivista Trimestrale, 1994; 14 (55): 53-72. (journal article)
• 40. 'Ich liebe Klarheit ...' Über Patricia Highsmith By: Maerker, Christa; Die Horen: Zeitschrift fur Literatur, Kunst und Kritik, 1993; 38 (4 [172]): 146-53. (journal article)
• 41. Patricia Highsmith, Nicholas Blake, and the Case of the Duplicate MurderPreview By: Mahoney, MaryKay; University of Mississippi Studies in English, 1993-1995; 11-12: 81-87. (journal article)
• 42. A Feminist Approach to Patricia Highsmith's FictionPreview By: Evans, Odette L'Henry. pp. 107-119 IN: Docherty, Brian (ed.); American Horror Fiction: From Brockden Brown to Stephen King. New York: St. Martin's; 1990. ix, 180 pp. (book article)
• 43. Mise en scène, analyse et anamnèse: 'The Empty Birdhouse'Preview By: Boucé, Hélène Auffret. pp. 153-60 IN: Duperray, Max (ed.); Du fantastique en littérature: Figures et figurations: Eléments pour une poétique du fantastique sur quelques exemples anglo-saxons. Aix-en-Provence: Univ. de Provence; 1990. 216 pp. (book article)
• 44. Patricia Highsmith-Giving Crime Writing a Good Name By: Borgmeier, Raimund; Anglistik & Englischunterricht, 1989; 37: 43-63. (journal article)
• 45. HighsmithPreview By: Peary, Gerald; Sight and Sound, 1988 Spring; 57 (2): 104-05. (journal article)
• 46. American Friends and Strangers on TrainsPreview By: Douglas, J. Yellowlees; Literature Film Quarterly, 1988; 16 (3): 181-190. (journal article)
• 47. The Temptation of Jonathan Zimmermann: Wim Wender's The American FriendPreview By: Plater, Edward M. V.; Literature Film Quarterly, 1988; 16 (3): 191-200. (journal article)
• 48. Die Lebensträumer der Patricia HighsmithPreview By: Mozetic, Gerald; Die Horen: Zeitschrift fur Literatur, Kunst und Kritik, 1987; 32 (4 [148]): 93-99. (journal article)
• 49. 'What's Wrong with a Cowboy in Hamburg?' Narcissism as Cultural Imperialism in Wim Wenders' The American Friend (1977)Preview By: Mahoney, Dennis F.; Journal of Evolutionary Psychology, 1986 Mar.; 7 (1-2): 106-116. (journal article)
• 50. Réflexion sur la théorie du texte: L'Exemple filmique de 'L'Inconnu de Nord-Express' d'Alfred HitchcockPreview By: Weyl, Daniel; Litterature, 1985 Dec.; 60: 109-121. (journal article)
• 51. Patricia HighsmithPreview By: Klein, Kathleen Gregory. pp. 170-197 IN: Bakerman, Jane S. (ed.); And Then There Were Nine ... More Women of Mystery. Bowling Green, OH: Popular; 1985. 219 pp. (book article)
• 52. Die gläserne Zelle: Geissendörfer, Highsmith and AdaptationPreview By: Head, David; Post Script: Essays in Film and the Humanities, 1984 Fall; 4 (1): 49-67. (journal article)
• 53. 'Not Really Such a Monster': Highsmith's Ripley as Thriller Protagonist and Protean ManPreview By: Hilfer, Anthony Channell; Midwest Quarterly: A Journal of Contemporary Thought, 1984 Summer; 25 (4): 361-374. (journal article)
• 54. A Portrait of the Artist: The Novels of Patricia HighsmithPreview By: Hubly, Erlene; Clues: A Journal of Detection, 1984 Spring-Summer; 5 (1): 115-130. (journal article)
• 55. Vivir en USA, según Patricia HighsmithPreview By: Paoletti, Mario; Cuadernos Hispanoamericanos, 1983 Sept.; 399: 130-132. (journal article)
• 56. Patricia Highsmith: InterviewPreview By: Cooper-Clark, Diana; Armchair Detective: A Quarterly Journal Devoted to the Appreciation of Mystery, Detective, and Suspense Fiction, 1981 Fall; 14 (4): 313-320. (journal article)
• 57. Humor and Malevolence in Wenders' The American FriendPreview By: Martin, John W.; Michigan Academician, 1980 Fall; 12 (2): 145-153. (journal article)
• 58. Drei Krimi-Normen oder Shakespeare und Agatha ChristiePreview By: Langner, Ilse; Frankfurter Hefte: Zeitschrift fur Kultur und Politik, 1980; 35 (10): 55-65. (journal article)
• 59. Die privaten Weltkriege der Patricia Highsmith By: Handke, Peter. pp. 123-29 IN: Schutz, Erhard; Zur Aktualitat des Kriminalromans: Berichte, Analysen, Reflexionen zur neueren Kriminalliteratur. Munich: Fink; 1979. 183 pp. (book article)
• 60. The Talented Miss (Patricia) Highsmith. ; Times Literary Supplement, 1971; 24 Sept: 1147-48. (journal article)

Thanks for the list, I'll choose a few for my own catalog and contact you again sometime next week with whatever minor progress I've made thus far. --6afraidof7 (talk) 00:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

In case you ever decide to run for adminship...

Remove the anti-religion label from your user page today. Some people here have notebooks for this sort of stuff.

-Fellow atheist 67.243.6.204 (talk) 01:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

As you haven't left any links to a talk page, I will leave my response here and hope that you find it: I'm not sure I quite understand your message. Are you threatening me? Why should I remove the anti-religion label from my page? Why would people be interested in my atheism? What's an adminship and why would I want it (please bear with me, I'm not very learned in the intricacies of Wikipedia)? --6afraidof7 (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Adminship = administrator. Administrators are editors with a few extra buttons that can delete articles, block users, protect articles from vandalism and such. The anonymous IP who made this suggestion is referring to the nomination process for administrators. Quite honestly, they can get very ugly and hinge on significant behavior patterns of an editor (consistent incivility) or the trivial, such as the placement of a userbox on a user's page. I've been through one that was considered civil by all involved, but still had a few participants tell me later it upset them. I was quite glad when it was over. I suggest you edit as you wish, be civil always, and work on Wikipedia for the sake of the articles. Preparing yourself for eventual adminship is unproductive. --Moni3 (talk) 13:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me. --6afraidof7 (talk) 15:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, I don't consider atheism to necessarily be "anti-religion", just a personal belief. Your personal beliefs are none of my business, so I don't expect a reply unless you feel OK doing so. And on a secondary issue, I know that RFAs can get ugly, but I hope we haven't deteriorated to the point that someone could be rejected simply because of his/her religious beliefs. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 16:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello 6afraidof7. I am just a Friend who stumbled onto this discussion and looked for the label in question. Where IS the "anti-religion label" on your user page? I do see a label indicating that you do not believe in "myths or superstitions." What is "anti-religious" about that? I should make it clear that, from my point of view, I do not believe in myths or superstitions either.

However, I do prefer Pepsi and Simpsons rule! But I will leave those "hot button topics" alone.

Good luck with your writing. That is the only reason I am here. Mkpumphrey (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Anti-religion

Thank you very much for your note. In response, I too didn't find anything that anti-religous about the label on my page. I think people construed it as such because it featured the word GOD with a red cross through it, coupled with my announcement that I had an interest in atheism.

As for those oh so important 'hot button topics', I personally find Pepsi to have a less distinctive taste than Coca-Cola, and while I agree that Simpson's do rule, I believe Futurama to be just that tiny bit better. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks back to you. Concerning Coke, as long as you do not want to force me drink that stuff, we have no issue.

I have suspected that Futurama is good, but it got started when I was traveling alot for work. I never really had a chance to make a connection. I will say that the theme song seems like a keeper. Best Wishes and happy writing! Mkpumphrey (talk) 23:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of The Two Faces of January

A tag has been placed on The Two Faces of January, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. TrulyBlue (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I tagged it because the article contains a plot summary that is more like the blurb on the back cover (see Wikipedia:Spoilers), and quotes two positive reviews, again more like promotional material than encyclopedic discussion. The book may be significant due to its authorship, but the wiki seems to show bias in favour of it. Regards, TrulyBlue (talk) 18:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The cover of the book is designed to sell it. The plot summary in the wiki is a re-write of the back cover, and the two quotes provided are verbatim taken from it: these are quotes from reviews specifically selected by the publishers to promote the book, and not a balanced view of the book. The plot is not described - there is only a teaser as to the setting for the novel. See Brideshead Revisited, for example, as an example of exploring the plot (though I would say that that article goes too far in terms of Original Research). If you think that other book wikis are promotional, feel free to tag them as such (though do bear in mind that their existence can't be considered a good reason for more of the some). I'll have a go at wikifying the article later. regards TrulyBlue (talk)

Speedy deletion of The Dead Detective

A tag has been placed on The Dead Detective, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. CalendarWatcher (talk) 09:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Nikki Grahame

About this edit. [1]. You called her a call girl|escort. I've no idea whether she is or not, but we cannot say she is a sex worker unless we immediately follow it with a citation to a concrete reliable source. I missed it, but I can't see one. (See WP:BLP) As I say, I don't know whether she is, but please don't insert accusations like that without cast-iron reliable sources. Thanks.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 21:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought there was a section of the article detailing Nikki's career as an escort. Even so, since her stint on Big Brother its become a confirmed fact that she served in that line of work, the same as we know that Tom Cruise is an actor or Charles Dickens was a writer. --6afraidof7 (talk) 21:16, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

It may be true. But a serious claim like that needs an immediate source. Also note that escort does not neccessarily equal call girl in the UK. A call girl is a prostitute, an escort may not be (and may well deny being one). (Granted many/most escorts may be prostitutes). But we can't call someone a "call girl" unless a reliable source does, indeed we'd need a source even to call them an escort. Please do read the biographies of living people policy, it will explain a lot.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 21:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I admit I shouldn't have linked the word escort to call girl, but my point is that the escort label isn't a claim, its a fact, and thus doesn't need a link to prove it. --6afraidof7 (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it does.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 21:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. I love debate, I didn't realise before just how easy it was. --6afraidof7 (talk) 21:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:BLP, and you'll see otherwise. Seriously, if you put negative "facts" into articles, without citations, you may end up blocked.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 21:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

What's so negative about being an escort, its a much safer form of prostitution than street walking. Besides, surely facts are supposed to be reported regardless of how positive or negative they are. I have provided a citation now anyway, so hopefully that'll be the end of the matter. --6afraidof7 (talk) 21:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Your referenced addition appears fine to me. Thanks. The reason we demand sources is to prevent libels getting in. If someone were wrongly to be called an "escort" it could, in fact, be libellous. Unfortunately it isn't good enough if the user making the addition knows that it is true, because users can be wrong (or indeed lying). That's why we demand that on articles concerning living people every user must provide sources for any material which MIGHT be hurtful or damaging if it were untrue. It also means that it is easy for a user who comes along after you to "fact check" by clicking on the source. The more the assertion "could" be damaging, the more critical it is to have a cast iron source right next to it. It is a matter of quality control. Anyway, all fixed now, and if you've read BLP policy you'll understand better than how I'm putting it here. Cheers.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 21:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Sorry about the sarcasm earlier, I just assumed that everyone knew. --6afraidof7 (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem. You've been constructive. Actually, I've never heard of the woman, I just patrol for BLP issues a bit.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 22:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Common terms

Hi. Please can you stop re-linking common terms like England and artist? Thanks. ~~ [ジャム]^[talk] 08:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I've replied on my talk page. ~~ [ジャム]^[talk] 09:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Regarding your recent edits on the Father Ted articles. You are over-doing the wikilinking. Please read Wikipedia guidelines on the use of linking between articles. Linking words like car and wine, which are not particularly related to the article subject, just clutters the article and devalues links from other articles that are related. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, you'd be far better sourcing some references for these articles, rather than linking words like insane and drainage. They are not significantly related to the subject and do not require explanation. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 13:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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Formatting sources

Thanks for your edits to the Anthony Burgess article, it's in a terrible state so any edit improving it is appreciated. While you have added sources (and the article is certainly in desperate need of verification) you only provided a link and didn't format them. It's preferable to include information such as the title of the page in question, the publisher, and the date retrieved as a bare minimum. It may be worthwhile if you familiarise yourself with the {{citation}} template, which has fields for the stuff I've just mentioned and is useful for standardising refs. I noticed on your userpage that you want to improve certain articles to GA and FA level; at that level, formatting references is imperative.

Also, there was no need to remove the maintenance tags from the Burgess article as all of the issues mentioned still apply. Happy editing. Nev1 (talk) 19:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I'd hardly say the article is swamped with references though, for an article of that length I'd expect at least 100 references for it to be considered of decent quality and that figure could easily reach 200 if the article were to go for GA or FA. Nev1 (talk) 20:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

November 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Meg Griffin. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. DP76764 19:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

As you seemingly have no talk page, I'll leave my response here and hope you find it. The only reason I'm involved in this so-called 'edit war' is because, annoyingly, nobody has approached me regarding why my contribution keeps being deleted. I'd be happy to ceasefire, so to speak, when the person responsible does make contact and offers some explanation. --6afraidof7 (talk) 19:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you need to cite sources for information like that, that you are adding! CTJF83Talk 19:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Why would I be afraid of him? You are adding WP:Original Research (please read over that) and unsourced information. CTJF83Talk 19:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, read that wrong some how. No, I'm not deleting it, DP76764 is. I support his deletion of it and will delete it, if he doesn't beat me to it. CTJF83Talk 20:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• BTW: You seem to have conveniently ignored the reasoning and "contacting you" in several of the edit summaries. So far, I count at least 3 other editors (myself included) who have reverted this (correctly so) as WP:OR. If you felt it was that valuable of an addition, why didn't you bring it up on the Talk page of the article? DP76764 20:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? If you read any of Dp76764's edit summaries, you would know what the problem was. Also, all posts on my talk page related to this can be in the same section, as we are doing here. CTJF83Talk 20:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I don't know very much about the minute details of this site and thus wasn't aware of the talk page. Listen, I haven't 'conveniently ignored' anything, all I do is make edits and, if somebody doesn't like them, then I wait for that person to contact me so we can discuss the matter like adults. Secondly, why are you being hostile? I'm not the enemy here, I'm not trying to vandalise pages or step on anybody's toes, all I want is a civilised discussion with a constructive conclusion. Is that too much to ask? --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)